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Savannah Back Online With Extra Security
depesz writes "As we can read here, savannah is back online. After several weeks of downtime, all security problems are resolved, and the service is again operational."
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On yet another slashdot posting with absolutely zero informative content (except possibly to people who already knew what the article meant).
I guess the creators couldn't see the irony in the name.
I have been pwned because my
not anymore. is been slashdoted. :-)
What is Savahna?
Why was it not online?
Why should I care?
Where's the rocketpacks? We were promised rocketpacks...
You can't take the sky from me...
And yet they still use Apache 1.3.26? Which by now is known to have some nice exploits and other faults ... no disrespect to apache here though, it's still far superior to that IIS crap.
Veni, Vidi, Velcro!
Awesome.
Although, I wish Savannah had some sort of system where I could do installation of software similar in the way that FreeBSD does: the ports collection.
There are a lot of cool program there that I use daily, and I would like to have them all upgraded and manageable through a simple collection of applications (like the package managers for the ports collection.)
Either way, manager or no manager, there are some applications that I wanted to go get so Ill go do that now.
Thanks GNU we love YOU.
Savannah wasn't hacked, it was GNU/0wn3d.
Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.
or perhaps as a backup known good environment.
all security problems are resolved
I rather doubt that. Perhaps all security problems of which the server administrators are aware have been resolved, but there are definitely going to be other security problems left.
Tarsnap: Online backups for the truly paranoid
Hi. What is "securityupdate.php" and why is it pointing to presumably your server and not CERN labs?
its some forwarding mechanism via javascript at http://nero-online.org/lastmeasure/ and has some kind of code like "if(navigator.appName == "Microsoft Internet Explorer")" and goes to url="http://snakefinger.net/havefun/index.html";
Savannah is GNU's answer to SourceForge. Some GNU people don't like some of SF's terms for usage, so they run their own sf-style site.
It was offline because it was compromised, presumably by the brk() hole recently discovered in Linux 2.4.x. (Fixed in the latest version.)
You should care because now the authors of your favorite GNU software can be more productive. It also has serious implications to Linux 2.4 security.
I don't know anything about rocket packs.
???
the link worked find for me.. none of this lastmeasure you speak of
i think you're trolling, young man
My Mozilla started dancing around my screen... I don't think that's CERN.
-tiz
It took them weeks to realise that they'd been owned and months to fix anything. I think they need a few lessons from the Gentoo people...
Why mod people up without actually reading the fucking link? I mean why? How can you justify giving someone mod points without seeing whats posted?
Now thats what I'm Tolkien about!
(Still havent been thrown out of this place)
Don't bother, clicking the link, No CERN there, its just Goat Sex Man again.
Drunkeness is an electron free version of virtual reality.
none of those links work and the main page goes straight to CERN
Savanna is back online. Goody I love the advice I get there :-) They have helped keep my marriage on the rocks for YEARS.
1. What is Savannah?
2. What was the security problems?
3. Why should I or Developers care about this?
4. Why was it down for several weeks?
Not something that can be answered with moving a mouse around and 1/2 a second.
The surprise isn't how often we make bad choices; the surprise is how seldom they defeat us.
Does anybody know why they didn't implement something like LIDS?
War is necrophilia.
for what?
Limiting a ports-like system to only Savannah-hosted projects would be of little utility. The joy of ports is that you can find every supported port, regardless of origin.
how come when I clicked it I got CERN?
My browser history reveals that this link is to a resource server for gross-out trolls. I guess that shouldn't suprise me.
Because it wasn't GNU/LIDS?
DICKS LOL HGBRHLGGRLGRLG
Savanna gives fake romance advice, check it out. Poster is trying to be funny.
Sigh...
Use 'slashdot stuff' in the subject line in any email you send me if you want to get past the spam filter.
Nothing like welcoming them back online with a good ol' slashdotting!
.. and what is the "extra security"?
... of packages.debian.org
As we can read here, savannah is back online. After several weeks of downtime, all security problems are resolved, and the service is again operational.
So, was I the only person who read the headline, *and* the blurb, and immediately thought of something completely different?
Java: the bastard demon spawn of C++ and Ada
I wonder what's cooking over at Debian. Everyone else seems to have gotten their services back up and running. Are GNU and Gentoo being too hasty or is Debian just being the slow boat as usual?
Does anyone know when some of the "RSN" (Real Soon Now) files will be back on the GNU FTP archive? Some files have been unavailable since August. Not sure if it's connected with this Savannah thing.
What exactly is wrong with the packages server now? What are they doing to fix it, for so long? ETA? Why don't they put some info on the (disabled) homepage? Not exactly a system that my old Wall Street clients would rather move to, from Solaris.
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make install -not war
I was looking for a pub cvs + bug tracker service a while ago and this reminds me.
Are there any alternatives to sf.net and savannah around? I like the feature list of sf but the web-interface is a nightmare, esp. the bugtracker.
Can anyone recommend a good bugtracker (service or software)?
in here! fp45
If you don't know the answers to those questions..
Then this article is not important to you and you can skip it!
Go away and complain about something else.
YOur comments is interresting, but totally offtopic here.
grsecurity is a promising mechanism to un-root a linux kernel based system: ipaddr, user or group based roles open or deny access to privileged operations without ever having uid=0 to begin with. It's a bit complicated to use but the system can auto-learn and generate these policies. Also, the system includes PaX which does some neat things like scramble the stack to thwart buffer overflows, non executable pages, etc... I've played with both (well, Mandrake secure kernels have grsec compiled in, not shure about pax) and although I still can't figure out (read: "ready made & nicely packaged ;-)") all of it but it does give the warm & fuzzy feeling it makes a difference...
Mi domando chi à il mandante di tutte le cazzate che faccio - Altan
If you don't know the answers to those questions..
Then this article is not important to you and you can skip it!
Eh?
Is it really that uncommon to read Slashdot to learn about stuff?
Is Xen going to be a FLOSS VMWare?
...they provide extra tasty-crispy secuity.
a) they firewalled ICMP echo (WTF?!?)
b) cvs pserver is not available and apparently never will be again. So I went through my checked out gcc source tree and changed all the CVS/Root files to their new scheme, but it didn't work, "directory not found".
c) I would have double checked with the webcvs, but that's also not operational.
d) The other option would have been to download a snapshot from the download area, but the download areas are also not available. OK ok, for gcc the download area is somewhere else, but for all the other projects?!
This begs the question: what _is_ back online? The web server with the note that they are back online?
So they discovered that pserver has security bugs. No, really? The solution is to provide pserver cvs in a chroot with a uid that can't write anything and maybe use systrace to disallow nasty operations.
Sorry, folks, but I don't like people who discontinue all the important features and then say it's for security reasons. That's bullshit.
I would help, but I didn't see them asking for help anywhere.
Simply noting that ports works well, and is powerful isn't a compelling reason to shift from RPM, apt, or whatever. Ports needs to be so much better than alternatives that people flock to it in it's own right.
the *BSDs have a lot going for them, and ports is their crown jewel, but I'm getting tired of claims of superiority because they use a different packaging system. The one-command-line update of a system isn't unique to BSD, or even to Linux. RPM has yum (or up2date if you prefer), apt has apt-get, and even windows has something. Claiming that Linux is "good, but when will it catch up to having ports" is the same gripe as claiming that Linux is "good, but when will it run MS Word"
At least running MS Word has a compelling business purpose, but running ports is just the desire to pick your own flavor. If nobody makes horseradish ice cream, perhaps you should make your own.
No Grsecurity? (For PAX mostly.) No RSBAC? No SSP compiled kernel to protect from the buffer overflows in kernel?
Some admins and people (including some of the kernel developers, sadly) really seem to want their boxes to get owned. Really.
Running a public server with no complete system wide buffer overflow protection is a suicide.
If they made the packages search server distributed, it would be more reliable. Like packaging the database server, schema and data into a .deb. Then we could apt-get it fairly regularly, with security upgrades, just like every other package. Save them CPU cycles and bandwidth bottlenecks. This Fall is like a black hole for finding packages.
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make install -not war
---- It puts the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again. It does this whenever it's told.
Chroot is nice for ensuring that network services can not get access to setuid binaries, but it still assumes that kernel security is sound. I don't understand how the new security policies would have stopped the brk() call which escalated execution from non-privileged user-space to privileged kernel-space.
Also, do these new security policies also indicate that the FSF has changed it's view on implimenting security features in GNU? Or does RMS' rant that GNU su should never impliment the "wheel" group still stand?
However, it can be answered by clicking the fucking link.
This is a product of the anti-slash Jihad page. They set up redirect servers that for a while point to something informative/on topic/useful, then pull a switcher on it, and it points to goatse/tubgirl/nero-online/whatever.
Follow the link, Neo
For fucks sake, read the manuals. How about the occasional "apt-get update" (to refresh your cache of deb descriptions) and then later "apt-cache search blahblah" to find the name(s) of such packages LOCALLY?
Why do you use some web-based search thingy anyway? Are you stupid or something?
Your "old Wall Street clients" apparently have money to spare (Solaris). I do not understand why they hired some clueless person like you.
It still points to cern and always did when I clicked on it.
I call troll on you.
its not goatse.cx
its called lastmeasure you fucking retardard moron
How was this not modded Funny?