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Congress Loves Spam -- If It's From Congress

Makarand writes "According to this NY Times article (registration required), while Congressional members were busy passing the U.S. anti-spam law that will go into effect on January 1, they were also busy sending unsolicited e-mail to their constituents. This activity was aimed at growing the subscriber base receiving their political messages because these email lists are not subject to the normal 90-day blackout period before an election where members are forbidden to use taxpayer-supported Congressional mass communications. Consumer advocacy groups say that this policy may be unfair to the challengers because this loophole could be used by elected officials to communicate with voters right up to Election Day."

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  1. Hah... by mOoZik · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah, and who thought they were stupid enought to put themselves equally under the law? They are politician's, for god's sake.

  2. Full TEXT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    WASHINGTON, Dec. 27 -- Even as Congress was unanimously approving a law aimed at reducing the flow of junk e-mail, members were sending out hundreds of thousands of unsolicited messages to constituents.

    The spasm of activity is aimed at attracting voluntary subscribers to the lawmakers' e-mail lists, which would not be subject to House rules that normally impose a 90-day blackout before an election for taxpayer-supported Congressional mass communications.

    In September, the House Administration Committee voted, 5 to 3, along party lines to allow e-mail messages to the subscribers to be sent in the blackout period, but maintained the ban on free postal mail from House members to voters. The policy change affected only House rules and was not part of the junk e-mail legislation.

    At least 40 House members have bought or agreed to buy e-mail address lists from at least four vendors. The lists, which each have tens of thousands of addresses, are generally created by a process called e-mail appending, taking voter registration files from a member's district. The next step is to cross match them with large databases of names and e-mail addresses assembled by consumer data companies like Equifax, which has a database of more than 75 million e-mail addresses. E-mail addresses can usually be found for 10 percent to 20 percent of the voter file.

    Many members of Congress praise the new policy for allowing cheaper and more effective communications with constituents. But consumer advocacy groups say the policy may unfairly give an advantage to incumbents over challengers because it allows elected officials to use government resources to communicate with voters right up to Election Day. In addition, the consumer advocates say, sending bulk e-mail messages to constituents who have not agreed to receive it is essentially electronic junk mail, or spam.

    The ability to communicate with constituents at taxpayer expense, the franking privilege, is one of the most cherished and controversial perks of office. For 30 years, advocacy groups have lobbied and sued Congress to try to close loopholes and stop abuses of the privilege.

    Critics say the policy has created a significant new loophole.

    "The core value is that you don't want to leverage technology to increase incumbent advantage," said Celia Viggo Wexler, research director at Common Cause, a group that has sued to limit franking. "What is troubling is that essentially the House is saying, `O.K., you can communicate with the constituency up to an election, and we're not really going to check what you are saying with them.' The point is without that kind of oversight, it's ripe for abuse."

    Before the change, e-mail was subject to the same treatment as regular postal mail. Correspondence sent to more than 500 constituents had to obtain approval from the franking commission and was subject to a 90-day blackout before an election. But individual responses to citizens were not subject to the restrictions.

    Congressional officials said the old policy was too cumbersome.

    "Anything over 500 e-mails you had to submit that to the franking commission," said Brian Walsh, the Republican spokesman for the House Administration Committee. "There was going to be a delay of a couple of days to get approved. We didn't feel that was consistent with the technology that existed."

    The new policy says that lawmakers can freely send messages to voters who have agreed to subscribe to their e-mail lists. To build such lists, House members are sending huge amounts of bulk e-mail messages to their districts in the hope that some voters will subscribe.

    The unsolicited messages go out from Congressional offices as often as twice a month. The unsolicited messages, which have to stop 90 days before an election or a primary, are still subject to approval from the franking commission.

    "They are regulating commercial spam, and at the same time they are using the franking privilege to send unsolicited bulk communications which a

  3. Can't see how that makes sense by arvindn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Spammers operate on the principle that even though 99% (or thereabouts) of recipients recognize and hate spam, the remaining 1% of fools are enough to make their business model viable. However, would this work for political spam? I mean, if more than 50% of recipients react negatively to it, its bad for the sender, isn't it? (IANAA, so correct me if I'm missing something :-)

    1. Re:Can't see how that makes sense by qvek · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Unless you can win the election with less than 50% of the vote which happens often :)

      Also 99% of people may SAY they hate spam. However I would think that a political email (especially one not asking for funds at all) is probably likely to be read and/or make a positive influence on a higher number of people than something with a subject line like "XXX FREE TEEN PICS", etc.

    2. Re:Can't see how that makes sense by KjetilK · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I'd argue that 100% of recipients hate spam, but that there are enough biznissmen who think that spamming is profitable and can't be bothered about the fact that they're hated, to make spammers very wealthy. Spammers are making money not by selling the products that they spam for, but by selling spamming itself.

      But of course, I could be wrong, it's just that every time I have actually gotten in contact with those who bought spam services, they had actually been ripped off by the spammer, and they sold nothing.

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    3. Re:Can't see how that makes sense by darien · · Score: 2, Funny

      Of course, it doesn't make sense to spam those who vote against you...

      Ah, but wait until e-Voting really gets going. "If you want to be removed from this mailing list, click here."

    4. Re:Can't see how that makes sense by schon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      businesses wouldn't be interested if they don't make money using spam

      That's known as 'specious reasoning'. It makes sense as long as you don't actually think about it.

      obsimpsons quote:

      Lisa: "By that logic, I could say that this rock keeps tigers away."

      Homer: "Really, how does it work?"

      Lisa: "It doesn't. It's just a rock! But you don't see any tigers around, do you?"

      Homer: "I would like to buy your rock!"


      Here's what's really happening:

      Spammer finds moron, says "I can advertise your product for a fraction of the cost of legit^h^h^h^h^hconventional marketing companies."

      Moron thinks "hey, this stuff must really work, after all, if it didn't work, they'd be out of business." And says "OK, here's my money."

      NOBODY buys any of Moron's stuff. Moron is out $X. Spammer finds new moron, says "I can advertise your product for a fraction of the cost of legit^h^h^h^h^hconventional marketing companies."

      Moron thinks "hey, this stuff must really work, after all, if it didn't work, they'd be out of business." and says "OK, here's my money."

      Lather, rinse, repeat.

      It is NOT necessary for spam to be effective for it to continue - all that's required is for someone to think it's effective.

  4. Effectiveness of SPAM? by OffTheLip · · Score: 3, Interesting

    SPAM is irritating but how effective is it really? Aside from the occasional well publicised ripoff who reads or responds to it? The US Congress must know something I don't.

    1. Re:Effectiveness of SPAM? by Slowping · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think it's a calculating move by politicians. With the SPAM bill they reduce the noise surrounding their own spam. I know that my grandparents didn't mind SPAM when they first got on the internet, when it was only ~1-5 per day. They stopped reading SPAM when it exploded to 100's per day.

      If the SPAM bill helps cut that down to, say, 20 per day, politicians' own included, I think elderly people like my grandparents will start reading SPAM again. With the growing importance of the elderly voting population, I think SPAM can be quite important for these politicians.

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    2. Re:Effectiveness of SPAM? by shaitand · · Score: 2, Funny

      Let's put it this way, MILLIONS have already enlarged their penises and every one of them is now making their penis functional (since it stopped working along with the enlargment) again thanks to viagra.

  5. What's that line again ? by Space+cowboy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Oh yeah, I remember: "Do unto others as you would have them do to you"...

    Reminds me indirectly of the Euro-MP who complained that people were contacting her with their views. They ought to have just sat back and been told what they wanted....

    Disgusted. Is it any wonder we regard politicians as full of (sh)it ?

    Simon.

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  6. Nothing New by Bloodmoon1 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This shouldn't really come as to big of a suprise. Political acts have been exempted from major laws before. From the DoNotCall.gov FAQs:

    The National Do Not Call Registry does not limit calls by political organizations, charities or telephone surveyors.

    Political spam isn't to much different from unsolicited political phone calls. And both would surely be of intrest to the politicians, as they seem to have exempted them from the laws. I find political phone calls equally, if not more annoying, then people asking me if I want to save $.13 a year on my long distance bills.

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    1. Re:Nothing New by WCMI92 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I do as well. I see it this way...

      Politicians shouldn't be trying to influence me. I should be influencing THEM. But in the "nanny state" we are becoming, more and more people, unfortunately, have the misguided idea that it's the government's (and hence, the politician's) job to TAKE CARE OF US...

      Let them run ads and put up signs at election time, as that's stuff I can CHOOSE to eyeball or listen to. But they don't need to be calling me or spamming me. THAT, to me is a government invasion of my privacy.

      Typical of a group of politicians who have been in office, and therefore power, too long...

      Write laws that have no prohibitions on THEMSELVES. This was one of the big things the Democrats were doing in the 40 years they ran Congress. And changing things to that Congress had to live under the laws it passed was one of Newt's biggest planks in the "Contract for America".

      (Congress used to be exempt from, among other laws: The 1964 Civil Rights Act, the Social Security Act, and the OSHA Act.)

      Leave them in power 10 years and they act the same way...

      I'm beginning to think the best strategy is to always vote against incumbents. No matter what the party of their particular beliefs.

      Note too the implications that the new (illegal, but upheld anyway) CFR "Amendment" to the Constitution can prohibit what can be said via e-mail 90 days before an election...

      So, is it soon to be illegal for me to say anything negative about Robert K. Byrd 90 days before an election on MY OWN website?

      Scary stuff. Don't say I didn't warn you people either. CFR and the misguided Supreme Court just allowed a wedge to be inserted into the first amendment's protection of our right to criticize the government. Sledgehammers are being readied to drive that wedge further...

      When Congress exempts ITSELF from a law it expects us peasants to live under, it's safe to say it's a bad law they are passing.

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  7. Sign Me Up! by qw(name) · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I guess when the first email arrives from my representative or senator I will start using their email address when signing up for free offers and sweepstakes. That should give them lots of input from their constituents.

    Following their example: it's ok as long as nobody says it's not.

  8. I can see,The penis party, the Nigerian Party... by enronman · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think spammers are going to start a bunch of lil grassroots political parties. They will band together and form the penis party, and sell penis creams, pills, and lord knows what else to "support" the party.
    The only real solution is to have terrorists start using spam to fund their operations... only with that boogieman out of the closet will congress do anything about spam.

  9. bah, easy to deal with... by tuxette · · Score: 5, Funny
    You just tell them "well, I was going to vote for your candidate, but since you called to pestered me, I'll vote for the opponent instead." *click*

    Political spam can be dealt with in a similar manner. "Promise" a vote and then on the day of the election write "Sucka. Did you really think I'd vote for a spammer?"

    At the same time, sign these politicians up on mailing lists etc. that guarantee lots and lots of spam. And forward their addresses to those kind Nigerians who have more than enough money to help finance political campaigns.

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    1. Re:bah, easy to deal with... by ubrayj02 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Funny, I work for an elected official - and filtering the email is part of my job.

      Your switcheroo-vote trick, I can assure you, won't work unless you do it en-masse. If you are not a realt threat to a politician's job, then expect to be ignored with extreme prejudice (barring some sort of dire need, press related significance, or obvious wrong that needs righting).

      Regarding your idea to sign your elected official up on mailing list, etc.: it's been done. Oh god has it been done. The boss's public email address has been posted online for years, and we get everything - EVERYTHING - that you could imagine. THe funny thing is, none of it affects anyone else in the office except me. No one sees any of that spam, and it doesn't hurt our office in any real way. However, all that spam DOES hurt our constituency.

      You see, knucklehead, when we get three or four legitimate constituent emails a day for help, with legislative ideas, or honest & valid complaints about some branch of our sprawling gov't - we can't get to them! It takes me an hour every day of sitting in front of a computer screen deleting spam - and the result is that is an hour that constituents DON'T GET SERVED.

      All that spam does is take away from other constituents! You are screwing your neighbors out of the service they are entitled to. You subvert the ability an elected official has to serve the people he or she represents. In the long run, the little things that the OFfice of So-and-So does for people in a community don't make a huge political impact. But when you need a new medi-Care card, or the DMV is hassling you, or a city is using an ordinance improperly, or a million other things - think about what it takes for you to get help from people sworn to do so. Don't piss in the well you might be drinking from someday.

  10. Forged emails + politics=Fun by enronman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There is the old story about the guy who takes a stack of bumper stickers for the opposing canidate and puts one on every cars bumper... With political spam it becomes SO much easier and fun. With to a bit of tech savy and good writting a great many fake messages could be sent out. I dare any politican to use this hardcore, because the backlash that could be unleashed against them would be frightfull once people learn that you really CAN get eail from your congresman!

  11. what i can't understand is.. by zr · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ..since when geeks (please no offence, myself included) look to the government to legislate our way out of spam?! whats wrong with you people? shame on you, M$ is proving to be geekier than you!..

  12. Could simple email filters win out? by darnok · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Are politicians required to send this email from specific email addresses e.g. your_faithful_candidate@congress.wankers.gov? It seems like they should be (i.e. in order to prove their spam is actually "from a political organization", it should at least come from a traceable *and documented* source), in which case a few simple email filters could make the problem essentially disappear.

    Thankfully I'm not a US citizen, so my exposure to this sort of rubbish is, oh, probably 2-3 years away...

    1. Re:Could simple email filters win out? by lxs · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Thankfully I'm not a US citizen, so my exposure to this sort of rubbish is, oh, probably 2-3 years away...

      Don't count on it. I don't live in the US, I've never been to the US. But I still get many spams telling me that I can swindle the US tax system. I think the whole world will suffer the spam fallout of local US elections.

  13. Commercial by Threni · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Spam is generally defined as being `unsolicited commercial email`. How spam from the political wing of the armed forces can be described as commercial is anyone's guess.

    1. Re:Commercial by McDutchie · · Score: 2, Informative
      Spam is generally defined as being `unsolicited commercial email`
      Er, no. A definition that is at least as common, and makes a lot more sense, is "unsolicited bulk email".
  14. It is the Members responsibility to inform by Chatmag · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's the Congressional Members duty to keep their constituents informed. In a representative government, our elected officials must promote two way communication.

    The Congress Online Project Nine Benefits of a good web site, number 3: "Targeted communication with key audiences. Web sites can help build ongoing relationships with key audiences by providing targeted features and information. Timely, informative sections of a Web site devoted to a single issue, for example, can attract people who care about the issue and keep them coming back for more. And issue-based e-mail updates provide the opportunity to regularly communicate with people who subscribe."

    In order to fulfill the requirements of the Congressional "Franking" priviledge, Members would have to clearly identify emails sent to their constituents, with proper headers, From address, etc.

    Also, in order to provide documentation that they are reaching their constituents, they would most likely be required to maintain an email mailing list.

    I highly doubt that the Members would use the shotgun email tactic of spammers.

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    1. Re:It is the Members responsibility to inform by WCMI92 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If they want to keep us informed... PUT UP A WEBSITE. That way, if I want to go there, I can.

      There is nothing in the Constitution that says that we, the people, are obligated to listen to ANYONE in our government. The reverse, however is true though.

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  15. They asked for it by davmoo · · Score: 3, Funny

    Any politician that spams me will most definitely *not* get my vote. I'll vote for Fidel Castro for President before I'll vote for a scumbag spammer.

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  16. Surprising? by blankmange · · Score: 4, Interesting

    And why should any of us be surprised by this? The politicians want to regulate it as long as it doesn't apply to them. I think that would cover quite a few things, not just spam.

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  17. TERM LIMITS! by Jackie_Chan_Fan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    These guys need to go... ALL of them. This country really needs to take back control of itself. Watch some Cspan folks, watch these guys debate in the house, watch the senate, watch all of the other covered events... watch these guys like a hawk. They're all slick, they all play each other for fools. Enough cnn, fox news, msnbc(does anyone watch it anyways?) and hell even the bbc is looking more like cnn these days. They have this game called politics down to a science called bullshit. You linux users know this as FUD :)

  18. Oh my god! by Rogerborg · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You mean that we might see more than 98% of incumbents re-elected?

    A 5-1 funding advantage is what does that. Spamming voters can't exactly make it worse.

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    1. Re:Oh my god! by WCMI92 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "You mean that we might see more than 98% of incumbents re-elected [commoncause.org]?

      A 5-1 funding advantage is what does that. Spamming voters can't exactly make it worse."

      Don't forget that so-called "campaign finance reform" now makes it illegal for you and me to pool our money to criticize an incumbent 30-90 days before an election in any meaningful way that might be seen or heard by other voters...

      That law should have been called the "Incumbency Protection Illegal Constitutional Convention of 2002".

      Limiting contributions to candidates is one thing. Implying that *I* am part of the corruption problem if *I* and others choose to excercise free speech to criticize a politician is offensive, insulting, and flat out WRONG.

      I'm still stunned the Supreme Court upheld it. Expect more and more laws from Congress abridging the freedom of speech, now that the wedge has been driven.

      I'm waiting for the CFR "website blackout" law that will be next. We will have to black out our poltiical commentary, blogs, message boards, etc, Google will have to disable search results that hit critique of a candidate, etc...

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  19. Public record? by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If the email is sent using government, rtaher than private or party equipment, doe sthe list become a record that can be obtained using FOIA (Freedom of Information Act?) If so, Congress could very well help spammers harvest email addresses for at lost less than buying an email database that has been matched to records.

    If you can get the list, how long before someone spoofs a Congressman's addresse and sends his or her constiuents an email that upsets them and forces the rep to deal with the backlash?

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  20. Really not as bad as it sounds... by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 3, Informative
    From the article:
    The lists, which each have tens of thousands of addresses, are generally created by a process called e-mail appending, taking voter registration files from a member's district. The next step is to cross match them with large databases of names and e-mail addresses assembled by consumer data companies like Equifax, which has a database of more than 75 million e-mail addresses. E-mail addresses can usually be found for 10 percent to 20 percent of the voter file.
    ...
    The new policy says that lawmakers can freely send messages to voters who have agreed to subscribe to their e-mail lists. To build such lists, House members are sending huge amounts of bulk e-mail messages to their districts in the hope that some voters will subscribe.
    ...
    The unsolicited messages go out from Congressional offices as often as twice a month. The unsolicited messages, which have to stop 90 days before an election or a primary, are still subject to approval from the franking commission.


    So...

    - politicians are targetting their constituents only.
    - the unsolicited messages are still subject to the 90-day rule, and only contain an invitation to subscribe to a mailing list.
    - politicians are free to send whatever they please to people on the mailing list.

    That all sounds fine to me... Congress isn't really placing themselves above the law, and the fact that they can spam those on their subscriber mailing list at the taxpayer's expense, doesn't bother me that much. In truth, they should just get rid of the entire 'franking privilege', not just this minor part of it.

    But when all's said and done... if you spam me, I don't vote for you. It is that simple :)
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    1. Re:Really not as bad as it sounds... by Alsee · · Score: 2, Insightful

      fact that they can spam those on their subscriber mailing list

      You seem to have forgotten step where they grab Equifax's 75 million address SPAM LIST, trim it down to target their own state, then send a massive flood of UNSOLICITED BULK E-MAIL asking people to sign up for the mailing list. That is SPAM.

      Congress isn't really placing themselves above the law

      I guess that's true in that they put the law so far down that every spammer can be above the law. The law they passed actually legalized much formerly illegal spam. The Direct Marketing Association conciders the CAN-SPAM law to be a victory! Just check C-NET's story: It's not called 'Can' Spam for nothing.

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  21. Full text IS fair use. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you support the GPL, you should support the ideals behind it, which are that the concept of copyright is FLAWED, and should be removed.

    Stop thinking of information as property. It isn't.

    The

  22. Will Congress make the SPEWS list? by satch89450 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As a SysAdmin I've been studying the DNS-based blocking lists in general and SPEWS in particular. Seeing how they say they operate, how long do you think it will take for the US Government to "win" an escalated listing in the SPEWS database?

    "I'm sorry, Congressman, but the reason all your mail is being bounced is that our server IP address is listed in SPEWS. What is SPEWS? 'Spam Prevention Early Warning System.' Because we have been unable to answer complaints to abuse@house.net to their satisfaction, they have put together a 'crimes file' showing that The House of Representatives is a spam-lovin enterprise, have listed our entire netblock, and we've run out contractors to superserve our mail servers -- every time we hire one, it ends up listed in SPEWS, too."

    Will the blocking lists work as they are supposed to, or are they going to take the smart path and NOT piss off the one organization who makes the "Laws of the Land?"? I can see it now: it becomes illegal for any operator of a mail server with more than 100 commercial clients to use any DNS- or domain-based blocking list.

    Not exactly the death of the Internet, but possibly a case of felony if you do, damned if you don't.

  23. Re:Overreacting by Alsee · · Score: 2, Interesting

    First of all they shouldn't be able commit abuses through e-mail that they are forbidden from commiting through normal mail. Elected officials are not permitted to abuse their office to run a private polical campaign, they are not permitted to stick the tax-payers with the bill for running that campaign.

    Secondly, because it is still SPAM.

    They are each sending millions of unsolicited junk E-mails with the costs almost entirely dumped on the receiving end. The actual dollar costs are split 50/50 between the sender and receiver, but the dollor costs are negligable. The real cost is human. Lets assume that only takes one second on average to spot and delete each spam. Each batch of 1,000,000 spams costs 1,000,000 people one second. The total cost is still 1,000,000 seconds. That is cost is SEVEN WEEKS of full-time work for one person.

    Then multiply that by the fact that they are each sending several million spams in each batch. Multiply that by the number of state and federal elected positions. Multiply that by the number of candidates. Multiply that by the number special intrest groups. Multiply that by every year, assuming that they are nice enough to only spam us once per year.

    The E-mail system is flawed in that anyone can set up an automated system generating spam and for merely a few dollars they can burn up more than an entire human life-span dealing with the output. A human waking life is around 1.5 billion seconds. Every 1.5 billion spams generated costs one human lifetime. The dollar cost to generate those 1.5 billion spams is far too low a price to pay to burn up a lifetime from other people.

    The problem with spam is that the lionshare of the real cost is dumped on the people receiving it. Unsolicited bulk e-mail is still unsolicited bulk e-mail when it is sent by a politician or political activist. It is still spam.

    P.S.
    Don't think the new "CAN-SPAM" law is going to fix the spam problem. The Direct Marketing Association considers the law a victory for the spam business. Check this C-NET sory "
    It's not called 'Can' Spam for nothing.

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  24. Effect of CAN-SPAM law (was:Overreacting) by satch89450 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    P.S. Don't think the new "CAN-SPAM" law is going to fix the spam problem. The Direct Marketing Association considers the law a victory for the spam business. Check this C-NET [story]...

    After reviewing and crafting a new AUP document for my boss at a Web hosting company, I'm beginning to appreciate how the CAN-SPAM law will get a handle on spam. Let me explain.

    There is a lot more to the CAN-SPAM law than just spam. The thing that caught my eye when I read the actual Act of Congress and the law referenced by the Act is that the issue of unauthorized access to computers "used in interstate commerce" (and Web hosting falls into that class) has been clarified, and the penalties for unauthorized access have been strengthened. That means when some twerp uses one of my customer's Web sites to commit FormMail spam, it becomes a Federal matter. Falsified credentials isn't just a civil matter any more -- the Feds have criminalized the offense.

    One of the biggest problems that the anti-spam crowd has had is with forgery. I have a domain, fluent (dash) access (dot) com, which has been used as a forged return address in someone's spew for a long time -- I found out when I turned the entire domain into a spam-trap and started getting bounces from all kinds of networks. (Some of those networks are now blocked because of that, but that's life on the Internet these days. Maybe I'll implement a sunset script for my automated access blocking...or maybe I won't.) With the new law, a forged From: line is criminalized. While the law is silent on the matter, forged Received From: lines may also be roped into the "deceit" intent of the law -- but that will have to be tested in a Court.

    As a commercial operator of Internet services, it lets me write things into my AUP that now stand a chance of being enforced, and not necessarily on my nickel. Before CAN-SPAM, it just didn't pay to go after a guy who is probing my network looking for broken formmail.pl and formmail.cgi scripts. What CAN-SPAM really does is put the black hats on alert that their activities may attract more attention than they would be comfortable getting.

    It also unshackles the programmer in me to write scripts to enforce some of these things using technological means instead of investigative means. For example, if I enforce the From: line restriction, the script person can't complain because it's an enforcement of an AUP requirement -- I'm just making sure that my customers toe the legal line.

    For the DMA, it is a win, because it makes more people play by the rules. Consider that CAN-SPAM is also a win for the block-lists like SpamCop and SPEWS, because it reduces the detective work required to recognize the spew just starting from yet another IP address, and it also limits the methods available to the abusers to avoid being caught and blocked.

    1. Re:Effect of CAN-SPAM law (was:Overreacting) by Alsee · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The CAN-SPAM law also wipes out all state spam laws.

      Basicly CAN-SPAM defines how to legally flod the planet with spam. There are about 25 million companies in the US. If each of them spammed you once with a valid and functional opt-out list you would be busy clicking almost SEVEN THOUSAND opt out links in seven thousand spams every day for the next ten years. Even one-tenth of one percent of that is still 70 spam per day per person (actually per e-mail account).

      Then of course spammers routinely reopen as a "new" business.

      A huge loophole in the law is that a spammer can flood you with 500 messages all at once, before you ever even see the opt-out link. He can continue to spam you up to ten days after you opt-out.

      Yes, we are currently drowning in fraudulent and deceptive spam, but drowning in non-fradulent and non-deceptive legalized spam isn't exactly a solution. The law wiped out ALL state spam laws, except to the extent that they address fradulence and deception. CAN-SPAM legalizes spam.

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  25. And this is a big deal because? by KalvinB · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Government officials will be following the rules. You're not going to be getting e-mails with "v0t3 f0r 930r93 6u5h"

    If you don't want policitical spam, as soon as one arrives, look for the tell and block it. They're not going to be faking domains and it's going to be professionally written. A preemptive expression block of "vote for" would probably knock out close to 100% of political spam.

    The problem with spam isn't spam itself. It's that it's designed to be difficult to filter out.

    As long as spammers of any sort follow the rules, I don't have a problem with them. I can filter them out without any trouble if I choose.

    Howard Dean is praised for exploiting the internet to build his campaign. Now you're whining that they would dare use e-mail. It's a public medium. Anyone can use it. Calling it "spam" doesn't make it any less e-mail. Politicials will be sending out a few million (if that) not billions. How many voters gave out e-mail addresses? Those are the only people who will be getting e-mails. I wouldn't call it spamming when you volunteer your e-mail address. That's "opt-in."

    If they abuse it, don't vote for them. If they use it intelligently, encourage others to do the same. That's what the internet is for.

    The only issue is the black out period. And no one has done anything yet. I'd be more impressed if a politician didn't take advantage of a legal situation than if they were forced not to.

    Ben