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Review of the Mirra Home Backup System

Darth Fredd writes "Having trouble backing up,or just too lazy to take the time? Behold Mirra, a networked RAID 1 volume, backs up everything automagically over the network. Extreme Tech has a review. Mirra uses the insanely popular (and fun) Mini ITX form factor motherboard. Mirra is targeted at the "normal" home and desktop user." We've mentioned the Mirra before.

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  1. Covered before by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yeah, this has been covered before, as it says. This 'article' reads like an advertisement. Are the editors taking money for this crap?

  2. nice but by mpost4 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    your average joe end user probably not pay $400 for a back up system. And that is even if they average joe end user has even thought about backups.

  3. Good but $400? by WildBeast · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's a little expensive for $400, not to mention that it's got only a 120GB HardDisk. How about those who have more data to backup?

    1. Re:Good but $400? by gotpaint32 · · Score: 5, Informative

      For $400 bucks Maxtor offers a 300gb portable backup hard drive, and $200 for a 120gb version. The idea of a network file server backup is nice but probably missing the mark with its targeted consumers. I would imagine most lay people would rather just plug something into the USB port of their computers rather than messing around with networking and whatnot.

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  4. I definitely like the idea of this by Sarojin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    just as a turnkey network file server, it would be great. Unfortunately for geeks it would still be cheaper to use an old PC running Linux

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  5. BackupPC by Aliencow · · Score: 5, Informative

    For people who have a Linux server around the house,
    BackupPC is a pretty good solution that can fetch files to backup through Samba and Rsync ! Nice web based interface, too.

    1. Re:BackupPC by dstutz · · Score: 5, Informative

      I run BackupPC on my linux server at home. I installed a separate harddrive and use it exclusively for this program. It's fairly easy to set up, works great, and the pooling+compression is wonderful because it saves so much space. Pooling means it doesn't back up more than 1 copy of the same file. It just links to that file in each backup (whether full or incremental).
      # 2 full backups of total size 16.48GB (prior to pooling and compression),
      # 6 incr backups of total size 1.29GB (prior to pooling and compression).
      As you can see it thinks it has backed up over 17.5GB of data but on the main status page it says:
      Pool is 6.98GB comprising 109320 files and 4369 directories (as of 1/2 01:00)
      Pretty sweet program.

  6. Pointless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    People who can't even be bothered to run Windows Update (for free!) aren't forking out $400 for a backup system for their data.

    And most people who do care enough about their data to back it up aren't going to use an expensive, single-purpose device to do it, they'll most likely be tech-savvy enough to roll their own server that does everything this thing does and more.

  7. Little word of warning by LittleLebowskiUrbanA · · Score: 4, Informative

    I have that exact case/mobo running OpenBSD 3.4 as my home firewall and it's much louder than you would think. The source of the noise is the power supply. Just as loud if not louder than the Enermax 330w on my Athlon system.

    The only difference I can find is that I have a Via 933mhz compared to the 1ghz on the Mirra. I had to strip the mounting bracket off of the 3Com NIC I added and secure it w/ double sided tape since it just wouldn't fit otherwise.

    Other than that, it's a pretty good investment for me ocnsidering it was $160 at Fry's sans memory and hard drive. Very reliable, doesn't take up much space. Just noisy. Maybe I could find another quieter power supply?

  8. How long until its hacked by SiliconJesus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Like the TiVO, this thing is running linux, as such, its just a matter of time before people figgure out how to dd the image from the 120gb drive installed to add larger and faster drive capacities. Given that it is still a Linux PC driven application NAS, the possibilities are endless. The price is a touch high at $400, but it should drop once/if it gains marketshare.

    The other thing to contemplate would be to get the image off the harddrive, and be able to create bigger / badder boxes by simply adding the apropriate hardware drivers to Linux. Imagine the software portion being able to control a nice hardware RAID of say 200 GB drives. More fault tolerant and easier (for us Linux folks) to use.

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  9. Re:No Offsite Built-in, etc. by elf-fire · · Score: 5, Insightful

    All true, but I think you are comparing apple's and oranges. Aimed at the 'normal' user it will most likely backup people's letters, documents, bank-slips, holiday pictures and some home-video. Hardly anyone kept off-site backups of those when they were still on paper and magnetic-tape.

  10. Re:The point... by Tim+C · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's also for those of us who do have the technical expertise, but frankly have better things to do with their free time than build something if a perfectly acceptable off-the-shelf product exists.

    That said, whilst reading the article, I was mulling over how to go about building one myself, and what chance I'd have of convincing my girlfriend that while yes, we do have 3 PCs between 3 of us, another one *would* be a good idea...

  11. Speaking like an average user... by bigjnsa500 · · Score: 5, Funny

    What's a backup?

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  12. Not sure why you're calling it a RAID 1 unit by CatOne · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's not actually RAID 1, and in fact there's no RAID in the unit at all.

    Is this an attempt because it synchs your data? I've seen RAID 1. I know RAID 1. And lemme tell ya, that ain't RAID 1.

  13. Useless. Only backs up Win2K or WinXP. by dpbsmith · · Score: 5, Informative

    Phooey. It says right here that

    "You can remotely access your photos and files from any Internet-connected PC, including Macs. Currently only computers that run Windows 2000 or Windows XP are supported for Mirra Backup and Restore within your home network."

    So, my wife's PC running Windows 98 and my PowerMac G4 running OS X 10.3.2 could read files that had been backed up from any other machines on our network... except... there aren't any.

  14. It's not size by fm6 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    No matter how big you make a disk, there will always be somebody who needs a bigger one. A typical SOHO network has maybe 30 to 60MB of non-redundant data. (Redundant data is stuff like application files you can easily re-install.) With incremental backups, the server will be obsolete long before it fills up.

    Anyway, if your data needs are past this level, you need to think about hiring an IS person, not buying a backup gadget.

    What makes this gadget a poor value is the level of safety is provides. All you're doing is copying your data from one hard disk to another. Two disks are better than one, but not that much better, especially if they're in the same building.

    Serious backup solutions use reliable offline media. Hard disks are pretty reliable these days, but still not as reliable as a tape or CD. Plus you can stick them in a fireproof box or store them offsite. Add some HSM software and you've got a storage system that's as big as you need it to be.

    No self-respecting campus network lacks this technology, but the SOHO user has been seriously neglected. Somebody needs to scale the tech down, and design the usual hand-holding front end so that you don't need a lot of training to manage the media. This has been an issue for years, even when SOHO computing consisted of one or two non-networked system. I guess catering to the low-end user is just not profitable enough.