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Clear Speakers, Segway Clone Top CES Coverage

jlouderb writes "Phew. We just finished five days of wall to wall coverage of this year's Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas. Highlights include "invisible" speakers, a Segway clone for around $1,000, details on Intel's LCoS plans, a humanoid robot from Sony and more HDTV recorders, new home networking schemes and flat panel TVs than you can shake a stick at. If you weren't one of the 100,000 or so who made it to Vegas, check out what you missed at PCMag.com."

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  1. Invisible Speakers by GameGod0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Coincidentally, there are no known photographs of these "invisible" speakers.

    1. Re:Invisible Speakers by r_glen · · Score: 5, Funny

      Here's a pretty decent picture of it.

    2. Re:Invisible Speakers by xenotrout · · Score: 3, Funny

      I managed to get this picture. I wasn't able to hear them in action, though.

    3. Re:Invisible Speakers by dzelenka · · Score: 1

      For God's sake people be careful! You are on Slashdot. You are asking for pictures of things that can't be seen. The goat-dude is just itching to show you where things might be hidden. Let's be careful out there.

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    4. Re:Invisible Speakers by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 2, Funny

      What do you mean you can't see them. I can see them, why can't you! And they sound beautiful.

      I'm really happy about The Emperors new speakers. Almost as cool as The Emperors new clothes.

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    5. Re:Invisible Speakers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you could shoplift a pair and nobody would notice.

    6. Re:Invisible Speakers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Moderation +3
      70% Funny
      30% Informative

      "30% Informative" - Hello? What are those people thinking?

    7. Re:Invisible speakers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, Lexan ( a GE trade name ) aka polycarbonate.

      Also used for bulletproofing car windows, astronauts'
      helmet face shields, etc.

      Tough stuff, but it scratches easily .

  2. The other highlight by r_glen · · Score: 5, Informative

    Toshiba's .85 inch, 2-4GB hard drive

    1. Re:The other highlight by Saven+Marek · · Score: 1

      The biggest highlight for me is getting rid of the fat pervert in the MSN butterfly wings, and replacing him with this improved model

      I might just turn up to the next CES

      nude macgirls webcam

    2. Re:The other highlight by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 1


      The biggest highlight for me is getting rid of the fat pervert in the MSN butterfly wings, and replacing him with this improved model


      I suspect this has more to do with a Las Vegas law that requires all convention floor presenters to hire and present at least one booth-babe. Granted - it might make the MSN commercials a bit better if they continued with this theme. But not likely.

      Although... it would make the MSN "can little Jimmy look at porn?" commercial a bit more entertaining.
    3. Re:The other highlight by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      getting rid of the fat pervert in the MSN butterfly wings

      AND
      nude macgirls webcam

      in the same post. Welcome to Slashdot.

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  3. Invisible speakers by Faust7 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Throwing your voice just got a hell of a lot easier. I foresee excellent office pranks.

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  4. Segway... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As someone pointed out, wouldn't it be much cheaper if they just added a third wheel on a spring? No need for all these fancy balancing systems...

    1. Re:Segway... by 3lb4rt0 · · Score: 1, Funny

      You can buy these ... they're called tricycles! :D

    2. Re:Segway... by ahaning · · Score: 1

      I believe I first saw a "third-wheel" design for the Segway at maddox's site.

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  5. Not a Segway by One+Louder · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Uh, that thing has *four* closely-spaced wheels - that makes it something that's going to fall over really easily. Stop suddenly and you're going to be singing soprano. There's no gyroscopic balancing going on.

    Not a big shock since the Segway's balancing system is patented.

    1. Re:Not a Segway by Pyro226 · · Score: 0
      Not a big shock since the Segway's balancing system is patented.

      I'm no patent lawyer, but I think that you might be able to use a unicycle as prior art. Although with a unicycle, you have a human doing the work of the gyroscope, computer, and motors.

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    2. Re:Not a Segway by EvilFrog · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's like saying you couldn't patent a printing press because people had been writing by hand for years, or a loom because weaving could be done without it. Using logic, one could claim the universe as prior art to anything, as we are simply using the laws of physics to provide means to an end. Finding new and better ways to do things that can already be done is not only patentable, but one of the reasons that patents exist.

    3. Re:Not a Segway by t0ny · · Score: 1
      a Segway clone for around $1,000

      So some company is finally trying to cash in on the lucrative market that Segway is tapping.

      Seems like a winner to me...

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    4. Re:Not a Segway by trevorrowe · · Score: 1

      I know this is slashdot, so who would have read the article ... *but* the silly thing travels at a top speed of 10mph and takes 15 feet to stop itself. Doesn't sound like it is much danger of falling over.

    5. Re:Not a Segway by pheared · · Score: 3, Funny

      Right, because even an idiot can keep the Segway balanced.

    6. Re:Not a Segway by Derling+Whirvish · · Score: 1

      You never heard of "rocks" or any other debris likely to be littering the pathway? If the wheels hit something even at a paltry 10 mph and your nose will impact the sidewalk.

    7. Re:Not a Segway by aflat362 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Maddox had this idea long before this clone

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    8. Re:Not a Segway by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 2, Insightful


      Uh, that thing has *four* closely-spaced wheels - that makes it something that's going to fall over really easily.


      Another thing that this does is increase the footprint for the device. I believe one of the advantages touted for the Segway was that it could be used wherever someone would walk due to a footprint roughly the same size as a pedestrian. It looks like if one wanted to pivot around with this device, you're much more likely to catch someone's toes as the back wheels swing around.
    9. Re:Not a Segway by Al-Hala · · Score: 1

      Very nice. That's a decent link! (referring to his detailed description of his model vs Seg's)

    10. Re:Not a Segway by Psychic+Burrito · · Score: 1

      I think both Maddox' idea and this newly introduced product
      - are unable to turn in place
      - have a footprint smaller than people's shoulders

      which I think are critical to success. So: close, but no cigar.

    11. Re:Not a Segway by catbutt · · Score: 1

      Segway doesn't use gyroscopes to actually balance the thing, only to sense balance. It uses the motors and wheels to keep it balanced.

      A 4 wheeled variation could use the additional wheels to detect the angle the platform is at, and use the motors to balance it. It could (probably) be just as stable as the segway.

    12. Re:Not a Segway by dspyder · · Score: 1

      Right! One of the coolest things about the Segway is that it can spin around in a circle requiring no more space than its wheelbase.

      Another nice thing about the Segway is that you move it (at least forward/backward) merely by adjusting your balance naturally. And you stop by doing a "whoa doggy" maneuver that is pretty instinctive.

      I assume (article didn't say) this is more like a standard go-kart with a stop/go (or motorcycle flick of the wrist) and handlebars. I bet it won't be nearly as agile.

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    13. Re:Not a Segway by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course it's like a Segway....you'd look a right plonker riding on one.

      Still, I bet these guys aren't blowing $100m of someone else's money.

  6. Ok... the robots... by MrPerfekt · · Score: 2, Interesting

    How can a public company that's based on profits and such in this day and age spend so much resources on those bloody robots without every really selling any of them? This could be my misconception though, but I have never heard of anybody really buying them.

    It seems every few months we have a new video of the latest, greatest robot dancing. Maybe I should be happy about all of this because it's R&D and any of that is needed in today's marketplace because so many companies have ditched it. In any case, I rather have them research rockets or other space machinary to get to Mars a little quicker. (I realize robotics has an impact on space exploration but sheesh, what's the use if we can't get anywhere first.)

    I'm really ranting now but the hot dance moves on the Super Humanoid Robot 5000 really makes me want to cap myself.

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    1. Re:Ok... the robots... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sony isn't selling their humanoid yet; it's not quite ready. But even when it is, they probably will never make back the money they spent developing it. The only people who will be able to afford it are large research institutions so it's not exactly going to be sold in bulk.

      But in the meantime, they get lots of publicity from it. At any Sony press conference they can have a little humanoid come out and dance. They also get tons of intellectual property from all of the research they did developing it. So it's like spending millions of dollars on advertising - which companies like Sony do without batting an eye. And getting lots of patents to make money if this crazy robotics thing ever moves outside of factories and very controlled environments.

      I'd be surprised if an American company had developed a humanoid robot, but QRIO was developed in one of Sony's labs in Tokyo. Japanese folks have a different view of robotics than most Americans so they're willing to risk money on a long shot. And Sony had experienced researchers laying around; many of the people who designed and worked on the Aibos are now working on QRIO. It's a big step up from the puppies in terms of complexity, but it is sort of the next logical step.

    2. Re:Ok... the robots... by xenotrout · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think this may be like playing a sport to learn physics or writing a computer game to learn a programming language. It's a fun way to figure out some practical concepts that may eventually be applied to something else. Sure, we aren't going to see Honda produce dancing cars or conversational power generators, but building a robot like this introduces lots of design challanges that can be used for other things, plus it may get the engineers thinking more creatively than they usually do. Sorry, I can't think of any examples--perhaps since I haven't been building robots.

    3. Re:Ok... the robots... by bluGill · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Sure they will make their money back. Not from the full robot of course. But from taking parts of the whole to make a cheaper robot. I've considered robotic vacuums, but until they do the stairs I'm still left with doing part of the job by hand. (and at that the worst, doing each step individually with the smaler attachment) Take just a fraction of the technology and make a cheap vacuum and they can make part back.

      A robot to cook my meals doesn't need to walk. (in fact given long enough arms can be built into the unused space between my cabinets and the ceiling. I'd like to have this type of robot in my home. I'd love to have a (healthy and tasty given my preferences and doctors orders) meal waiting for me when I get home from work using whatever is in my kitchen.

    4. Re:Ok... the robots... by DrEasy · · Score: 1

      On the topic of robotic vacuums: don't know how good they are, but wouldn't it be a better idea to have a remote controlled vacuum? It'd be cheaper (less intelligence needed), more effective (you'll go to the important spots and only once) and fun for us guys.

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    5. Re:Ok... the robots... by bluGill · · Score: 1

      I havea perfectly fine vacuum sitting in my living room. ITs hasn't moved in nearly a month, and it was several months at the previous position. I don't think a remote control would help. Now if the remote would store the path taken, I'd use it once to vacuume everything, and then just tell the vacuum to run that path once a day. However it still needs to get stairs, or I'm not sure I will care enough to buy it.

    6. Re:Ok... the robots... by Beardydog · · Score: 1

      You mean a Woman?

      I think they sell those already...

    7. Re:Ok... the robots... by supabeast! · · Score: 1

      You don't need a robot-you need an illegal immigrant maid.

  7. segway clone by potpie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Does anyone here own or know anyone who owns a segway?

    Wasn't it the biggest let down when you heard that this new type of mobile that would "revolutionize" transportation forever... turned out to be a bulky, overpriced scooter?

    Hey- the wheels are next to each other. Neat. Now why would I want to buy one?

    It was a great idea, but not any more than meal-in-a-pill was a good idea, or the anthropomorphic robot of the 1950's. Neat, but who really wants one (not counting rich people with money to burn)? So does it really deserve to be copied? Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery... but... it's a scooter!

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    1. Re:segway clone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My friend has one. It was not a let-down at all. It's as much of a scooter as an automobile is a carriage.

    2. Re:segway clone by /dev/trash · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I saw one, in all palces, Arkansas. A radio station biought it and usedit at promo events. It also had ads on it. The gal who was driving it was hot.

    3. Re:segway clone by basingwerk · · Score: 3, Funny

      Over in Europe, there have been a lot of stories about obesity in America. Do you suppose that some people have got to the point where they have to use a vehicle like this just to reach thier car?

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    4. Re:segway clone by homer_ca · · Score: 1

      The value equation on this is all out of whack. Two wheel electric scooters with the same speed and range sell for under $300. Only difference is, you have to balance it like a bicycle so low speed maneuverability isn't as good as the chariot type scooters. $1000 for four wheels and no electronics is more than a little steep.

    5. Re:segway clone by ParadoxDruid · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I saw a security person (I assume a higher up) using one to get around campus at the University of Colorado, Boulder. Not sure if it was purchased or a test or what, but still caught me by surprise.

      I do think Segways have a use in positions such as, say, warehouse manager and other jobs where people are walking around all day.

      Still, I'd rather walk and get the exercise. Oh well.

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    6. Re:segway clone by ls+-lR · · Score: 1

      WHere's that dude that used to obsessively post to any slashdot topic that was remotely segway-related about his gushing segway ownership experience and how he's keeping a journal of every hour of hot segway action, etc.

    7. Re:segway clone by nettdata · · Score: 1

      The gal who was driving it was hot.

      All the more reason to embrace LESSER technologies, like pogo sticks.

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  8. Attitude for success by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Best line, John Wang, president of Global Manufacture Group: "You bought it, you figure it out."

    1. Re:Attitude for success by jonbrewer · · Score: 1

      "We said, we can do this, but the gyroscope technology--we didn't think people could afford it."

      Rad2Go : Segway = I-Cybie : Abio

      I guess there's a market for knock-off gucci watches, so why not knock-off Segways? But still, I think it's in very bad taste. I hope they get laughed off the stage.

  9. High Definition TiVo by sdo1 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I've been a TiVo junkie for about 3 years now and an high definition junkie for about 6 months. I didn't realize how spoiled I was with TiVo until I had to watch HD content in real time (gasp!). So right now, I'm just itching to put my hands on the High Definition TiVo. It comes with a 250Gig HD which is enough for about 30 Hrs of HD content or 200 hours of standard definition content. It can record over-the-air (OTA) HD or DirecTV HD. Drool....

    -S

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  10. Invisible speakers will be an even bigger failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...than those invisible straight razors from a few years back. What were they thinking?

  11. Re:Contemplating SUICIDE by sgarrity · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Is this for real?

  12. The transparent speakers are my pick by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Interesting
    They say you can layer it over a flat panel. Aside from the problem that you then cannot use it for a touch screen, this is fantastic news. Consider having a laptop with three of these things; two of them on the body of the unit past the keyboard where speakers usually go if they are not under your hands where only an asshole would put them (even if you type as you are "supposed" to and hold your arms up all day, your hands will be in the way of the sound) and one built into the display as a center channel. The speakers on the unit, being thin and flat, could be slid out and either connected using headphone extension cables or connected on some kind of cable on a reel, though that sounds likely to fail. Anyway, bang! You've got Dolby 3 Stereo with wide separation.

    Sliding the suckers out probably isn't necessary on a laptop anyway, because you'll be sitting so close to it. However what with the rash of large-display laptops coming out these days, it might be nice to have this feature, so that you can have portable cinema that a couple of people can sit down in front of.

    Alternatively, and perhaps more realistically outside of Japanese test markets, you could have a stereo flat panel speaker built into the display for your front channel, and then plug speakers into the headphone jack and configure the sound to use them for the rear channel audio. This is probably a much better idea, but this is one of those stream-of-conciousness posts.

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    1. Re:The transparent speakers are my pick by Zirnike · · Score: 1
      I don't know... I mean, it's lexan. You can color it. Why not just make the housing the speaker? You need it anyway. It's great for size reduction of things.

      And what about frequancy range? If it's ultrasonic capable, maybe we could use bowls made of plastic to keep soup warm. Or for cleaning things... Also good for fire alarms... all the windows go off. Put the cabling on the outside, and you can have internal/external alarms on the same channel. Noise cancelation in cars? Put a microphone in the engine compartment and sound off the plastic firewall to compensate... All sorts of nifty things you can do when the speaker is part of the structure.

      But the most important application has to be turning the little tiny speaker at movie theater ticket counters into something you can actually understand the words from...

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  13. DRM? That's bad news... by SexyKellyOsbourne · · Score: 2, Interesting


    Microsoft wants to do more than make sure there are Windows-powered devices in every office, home, cell phone, and car.

    Then came the Big Three: speeches by Dell's Michael Dell, HP's Carly Fiorina, and Intel's Paul Otellini. All three PC companies now are fully ensconced in the world of consumer electronics, none more so than HP, which has wholeheartedly endorsed DRM as the wave of the future. And when someone endorses DRM these days, Hollywood pays tribute. Ben Affleck, Doctor Dre, Alicia Keys, and The Edge on the same stage? Entertainment Tonight should have been there.


    Well, that's not good for the future -- it looks like companies are determined to push digital rights management, and with Microsoft making aggressive attempts at expanding its software as usual, will they team up and begin making moves to implement the P word sometime this year?

    Of course, Linux doesn't have a standard for DRM, with Macrovision being the only one in portation, but given recent events (deCSS), Linux is thankfully not the friendliest platform for such things. Perhaps more people will switch over to Linux once they learn their days of free downloading may be over if they stick with Microsoft?

    1. Re:DRM? That's bad news... by hanssprudel · · Score: 1

      The Register covered Carly's desicion to endorse closedness and control on Friday. At least it is good to know that HP are honest about exactly where they stand, unlike the wishy-washy contradictiveness of other companies that try to avoid the issue.

      On the whole, it does not worry me that much. If Carly had announced that HP was in partnership with MS to support and develop Palladium that would have bothered me a lot more. That may be coming (as you say), but it seems more likely to me that HP are really just trying to grab some of the percieved DRM riches-to-come from Microsoft. Infighting among the bad guys can only be a good thing...

    2. Re:DRM? That's bad news... by zenthax · · Score: 1

      Perhaps more people will switch over to Linux once they learn their days of free downloading may be over if they stick with Microsoft?
      Your assuming they will be able to. Seeing how soon motherboards with be DRMed possibly from the bios to the cpu, I doubt they will be able to install any version of linux unless its complies and is "trusted." And seeing how all the major OEM have decided to "officially" embrace DRM we could have a serious problem. First you are going to likely see non-DRM products being sold less, and eventually pressure from the OEM will completely kill all non-drm products. The future looks rather gloomy, hopefully some intelligent politicians will step in and take of that nonsense, but that seems unlikely as of now.

    3. Re:DRM? That's bad news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Iovine delivered this message in a stilted fashion, as he read the teleprompter with the skill of a backwoods newsman. At no time in his speech, however, did Iovine remind the audience of the record labels' long history of price-fixing their products, costing consumers hundreds of millions, according to the US government. As he worked to tell us how to raise our children, one would have hoped Iovine could bring this checkered past up, if only to provide more light on the sham.

      Ouch! Great link.

    4. Re:DRM? That's bad news... by dave420 · · Score: 1

      err.. you can turn off DRM in your bios setting. That's something every proponent of DRM has said since day #1...

  14. Re:Contemplating SUICIDE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We can only hope so.

  15. Why clone the Segway? by CottonEyedJoe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm the first to admit its a neat idea if the Segway werent eclipsed by the venerable bicycle in nearly every respect. For the price of a Segway you can buy a nearly weightless (15 lbs) carbon fiber bike that Lance Armstrong would be proud to ride, and with a few weeks of practice, any reasonably healthy person could out pace and out distance any Segway.

    For $1000 youre still talking about a nice shiny new "bike shop" bike that would run the clone into the dirt. Heck, even a $150 Wal Mart special would have no trouble in that regard.

    1. Re:Why clone the Segway? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why should humans have babies when they can get pet dogs that are smarter and more capable?

      For being on a geek site, you aren't very forward-looking. Have you even tried to imagine what a third-generation Segway might look like or do, or are you stuck criticizing the Model A for its flaws? The bicycle is at its development ceiling, there isn't much more you can do with the basic idea except to make it lighter and stronger. The Segway is in its infancy.

    2. Re:Why clone the Segway? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A third-generation segway is still a solution in search of a problem.

    3. Re:Why clone the Segway? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I always thought that the Segway was little more than a PR campaign. After having seen one, my opinion stands. It is a way ridiculous gadget, that solves little that is not solved by a good old bike. I am amazed that anybody with more than half a brain ever tried to push it as a revolutionary invention.

    4. Re:Why clone the Segway? by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 1

      For being on a geek site, you aren't very forward-looking.

      Shoot, is that in the "Official Geek Manual"? Do I lose geek points when I say "I don't care" about most of these new products?

      A tech geek is someone who finds technology insteresting. However it doesn't mean that think that all new technology is 'foward-looking'.

      On the contrary, after being exposed to technology for a while, I'm pretty cynical and disinterested in most products put out by these tech shows. They are usually full of the same shit that we have been seeing for years. "New speakers" -- ooohhh... a new kind of camera -- ahhh... "more slick promotions about useless products to waste your money on" -- ah-ha!

      The bicycle is at its development ceiling, there isn't much more you can do with the basic idea except to make it lighter and stronger

      And what's wrong with being at it's development ceiling? A product doesn't need be technologically advanced for it to be interesting. Bikes are interesting because they are here, now. They can get you to places which no car or segway can go. They provide recreation, exersize, transportation, and are affordable, clean, healthy and fun.

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    5. Re:Why clone the Segway? by Pyromage · · Score: 1

      It's worth considering that the segway was initially created for the disabled, who can't use a bike. I think it's succeeded admirably in that regard, actually.

    6. Re:Why clone the Segway? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nice defensive response, and nice array of fallacies.

      Conclusion: idiot or troll, but who cares which?

    7. Re:Why clone the Segway? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So what is your argument? Are you just fat and lazy?

    8. Re:Why clone the Segway? by Scrameustache · · Score: 2, Insightful

      any reasonably healthy person could out pace and out distance any Segway.

      So healthy persons are not the Segway's target market.
      We're talking about a guy who makes fancy balancing wheelchairs, the segway is more like a fancy motorized "walker" (what do you call them 4-legged cane-like things elderly people walk around with?).

      its a neat idea if the Segway werent eclipsed by the venerable bicycle in nearly every respect.

      From your young, healthy point of view. But for someone who's proud to be able to stand but too weak to walk all the way to the market and back with the groceries, the segway is much more desirable.

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    9. Re:Why clone the Segway? by 198348726583297634 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Cause you won't want to ride your bike four miles in a business suit on a day after it's rained. You won't have very many nice suits if you do that too many times. Riding the segway, on the other hand, gets you to the office as clean as if you'd driven, minus the vehicle emissions.

    10. Re:Why clone the Segway? by swordgeek · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The OP made an interesting point--this IS still a very first generation device. The first generation of bikes were more trouble than they were worth.

      That said, I agree. The Segway is a solution in search of a problem that's already been solved in better ways--for most people. Still, unlike "new" speakers, a "new" camera, or most other daily "new" shite from companies, the Segway is at least fairly original.

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    11. Re:Why clone the Segway? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do I lose geek points when I say "I don't care" about most of these new products?

      Yes. So just STFU already.

    12. Re:Why clone the Segway? by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 1


      I'm the first to admit its a neat idea if the Segway werent eclipsed by the venerable bicycle in nearly every respect

      ....

      and with a few weeks of practice, any reasonably healthy person could out pace and out distance any Segway.


      Could you ride that bike on a crowded sidewalk (local ordinances aside)? How about through an office hallway.
    13. Re:Why clone the Segway? by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 1


      Have you even tried to imagine what a third-generation Segway might look like or do, or are you stuck criticizing the Model A for its flaws? The bicycle is at its development ceiling, there isn't much more you can do with the basic idea except to make it lighter and stronger.


      What I find kind of amusing about this line of thinking was the reactions to the first bicycles. They were rather inefficent, difficult to use, somewhat dangerous, and got a lot of negative attention from critics claiming that the odd devices would never have any pratical use.
    14. Re:Why clone the Segway? by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

      Why clone the Segway?

      For the price of a Segway


      You just answered your own question.

      It doesn't NEED to be that expensive. By a LONG shot.

      you can buy a nearly weightless (15 lbs) carbon fiber bike that Lance Armstrong would be proud to ride, and with a few weeks of practice, any reasonably healthy person could out pace and out distance any Segway.

      Try riding a carbon-fiber bicycle around indoors, at a crowded convention, in a buisness suit. B-)

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    15. Re:Why clone the Segway? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ohhhhwww!

      Did someone insult your wittle-bittle toysie-woysie? wittle boys are really attached to their wittle toys.

    16. Re:Why clone the Segway? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (what do you call them 4-legged cane-like things elderly people walk around with?).

      A walker. Or a zimmerframe, if you are a UKian.

      But for someone who's proud to be able to stand but too weak to walk all the way to the market and back with the groceries, the segway is much more desirable

      So, the Segway is for that vanishingly small portion of the populace that can easily stand AND balance, AND control the thing, but can't walk?

      All 3 of them are grateful.

    17. Re:Why clone the Segway? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cause you won't want to ride your bike four miles in a business suit on a day after it's rained. You won't have very many nice suits if you do that too many times. Riding the segway, on the other hand, gets you to the office as clean as if you'd driven, minus the vehicle emissions.

      Where to start?

      1)If you wear a suit, you own a car. Maybe it's electric. Whatever.

      2) Riding the Segway (on the street, it's not sidewalk legal in many places!) will just get your suit ruined, for two reasons- the wheels will kick up spray, and the passing cars will splash you.

      3) You DO know that the electricity used to power the Segway came from a powerplant, right? And most power plants (coal, oil, gas) cause "emissions", right?

    18. Re:Why clone the Segway? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Could you ride that bike on a crowded sidewalk...?

      Um, thats the word- WALK!

      How about through an office hallway


      Again, why not walk the 20 feet to the watercooler?

      Lazy-ass mofo.

    19. Re:Why clone the Segway? by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 1


      Um, thats the word- WALK!


      Not when you're dealing with long distances. Sure - walking is good exercise. Most people could use it (me included). But the Segway provides a way of covering those distances in a manner when walking isn't practical (and neither is a vehicle such as a car or bike).


      Again, why not walk the 20 feet to the watercooler?

      Lazy-ass mofo.


      Who said anything about 20ft? Some office complexes are rather large. Zipping around a large office campus, going in and out of the associated buildings, could be very usefull at times. Especially if you can cover that distance quickly (and without mowing down pedestrians).

      That's not to say that everyone needs a Segway. If your trips around the office involves a 20ft walk to the water cooler, then the Segway isn't for you. But that doesn't mean it's for nobody either.
    20. Re:Why clone the Segway? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Until the disabled person gets to a flight of stairs, and has to lift the 60 lb segway up or down them. Oh well, thanks for trying, Dean.

    21. Re:Why clone the Segway? by mark2003 · · Score: 1

      Try riding a carbon-fiber bicycle around indoors, at a crowded convention, in a buisness suit. B-)

      Lazy b*stard - what is wrong with walking around a crowded convention, that's what most of us would do.

    22. Re:Why clone the Segway? by tony_gardner · · Score: 1

      My grandmother has osteoperosis. Would you buy her a segway? I think that the group of people who can't walk, but would not be severely injured by a fall from a segway is vanishingly small.

    23. Re:Why clone the Segway? by fuzzybunny · · Score: 1


      OK

      For the price of a segway, you can buy a nearly weightless (5 lbs) razor scooter that Lance Armstrong probably wouldn't be caught dead on, and with a few weeks of practice, any reasonably healthy person could out pace and out distance any Segway, indoors, at a crowded convention, in a business suit.

      In fact, for the price of a segway you can buy razor scooters for all the fat bastards on your corporate board and upper management. Now, wouldn't that be worth it to see your entire company "leadership" riding around, making themselves look like a bunch of pathetic morons? :)

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    24. Re:Why clone the Segway? by gad_zuki! · · Score: 1

      >So healthy persons are not the Segway's target market.

      Close, but the Segway is a yuppie toy, not a next-gen wheelchair. The next generation Segway will be the device that made Baron Harkonen float around.

    25. Re:Why clone the Segway? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For the price of a Segway you can buy a nearly weightless (15 lbs) carbon fiber bike that Lance Armstrong would be proud to ride, and with a few weeks of practice, any reasonably healthy person could out pace and out distance any Segway.

      I'm all for exercise, but the bike can't be used by a) someone in a suit or who otherwise doesn't want to sweat b) in the rain without getting wet c) someone with a knee injury and the segway fits in your trunk without taking it apart and getting chain grease all over you.

  16. Re:Contemplating SUICIDE by aheath · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Please call 1-800-SUICIDE, 1-800-784-2433 to seek immediate help with you suicidal thoughts and feelings. Depression is a treatable condition. Suicide is not a treatble condition.

  17. Re:Contemplating SUICIDE by drinkypoo · · Score: 1, Informative
    When You Feel You Can't Go On

    If you're trolling, fuck off immediately and stop causing people consternation. If you aren't, please click the above link and find a suicide hotline near you. Operators are standing by.

    Incidentally, I wonder what's up with that page's colors. Black and purple? Gah, how depressing.

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  18. Not a clone in the slightest... by EvilFrog · · Score: 3, Informative

    The "Segway Clone" is only a clone in the respect that it looks vaguely similar to one. All of the technological advances that make the Segway unique are missing.

    The entire point of the Segway is the gyroscopic balancing.

    I'm reminded of that "RoboSweep" that billed itself a "Roomba Clone".

  19. Re:Contemplating SUICIDE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If I got dumped for an Aeron, I'd be bummed.

  20. Here Are Three Reasons by DumbSwede · · Score: 4, Insightful
    In the short range, company visibility, and advertising. If Sony makes cute impressive robots, you may conclude (correctly) Sony is an on the ball technical company and therefore its VCRs, Televisions, Computers, and Games are likely to be of a superior quality.

    Spin off technologies used in industry the general public is unaware of.

    Long range goals (something American companies often neglect). Someday everyone will have robotic aids and servants. It won't happen overnight, nor necessarily in our life time, but its an easy prediction to make for something almost certain to happen within the next hundred years.

    1. Re:Here Are Three Reasons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      AIBO went through almost the same steps and now it is on the market. Sony introduced them as a tech demo in 1998, with no indication of a product based on the technology. In 1999 you could sign up to order one from limited production queues for $3000 US. Today you can get an AIBO many times more advanced than the original for $700, and you can buy it in brick-and-mortar stores. The original models are now selling for $200-400 used.

      Hopefully QRIO will follow suit, and hopefully a lot of rich early adopters will make it possible for it to get to the mainstream.

    2. Re:Here Are Three Reasons by the-build-chicken · · Score: 1

      Someday everyone will have robotic aids and servants ...and don't forget the first rule of marketing.....first in the customers mind = best in the customers mind.

    3. Re:Here Are Three Reasons by danila · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Next hundred years? What? Apparently, you think that either
      a) It's more difficult to come from QRIO to a general-purpose intelligent robot than from radio to Internet, from Wright's Flyer to 1000+ passenger jets, solar-powered planes and UAVs, from Model T to GM's Autonomy.
      or
      b) The rate of progress is decreasing.
      is true. But I think both a and b are false. And we will have intelligent robots in a few decades, not centuries.
      Check this out.

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    4. Re:Here Are Three Reasons by drinkypoo · · Score: 1
      Of course, my last Sony VCR shat itself playing a reasonably high-quality tape. It ate a mode gear, as VCRs in general are wont to do because they use too many plastic gears. And no, there was no obstruction in the tape's path, except parts of the VCR which apparently did not want to go where they were supposed to. The device was also sitting level as it should be, being used very near 1G, well within temperature and humidity limits. (I lived about 50' above sea level at the time, even, so I'm pretty sure about the G rating.)

      Just because a company has some high-tech stuff doesn't mean the majority of their products aren't crap. Sony's top-end stuff is pretty nice, but they make a lot of cheapies as well.

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  21. Re:Contemplating SUICIDE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Boo hoo. Just kill yourself. I like your wife, so as soon as you're gone I can move in. Hahahah. BTW we've been having sex while you're at work. Hahah. k thx bye.

  22. That website doesn't work in Safari by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Plz fix, kthx

    1. Re:That website doesn't work in Safari by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or in Mozilla 1.5, for that matter.

    2. Re:That website doesn't work in Safari by aceat64 · · Score: 0

      or Firebird, or konqueror, or any other browser I have on my linux box.

    3. Re:That website doesn't work in Safari by mistert2 · · Score: 1
      Actually it does work in Safari, what didn't work, did I miss something. I tabbed everything and read it all, then I was going to moderate. I guess I won't know, What did I miss?

      Pictures? check

      Links? check

      Formatting? check

      Ok, I give, what doesn't work. Is it that the site is /.?

  23. Re:Contemplating SUICIDE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He's a well known troll. Check his posting history, especially the part where he's a distinguished expert in a different field in every post.

  24. Who submits? by Raleel · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Does anyone else remember when slashdot used to be about nerds submitting articles that they had found on the web and thought were interesting? Now it seems there are a plethora of "self submitted" articles, and I think the quality has gone down. Take, for example, this one. It wasn't enough for someone else to say "hey, look, I found this article on pcmag.com showing off all this CES stuff." No, it had to be someone trying to drive up traffic to their site. Hell, even the username is a link to pcmag.

    Or the one the other day about the color alterations on the mars photos. Now, I'm almost willing to forgive this one, since it is pretty interesting, but on the other hand, the guy could have gotten the answer to his dilemma just by going to NASA's site.

    Remember when slashdot was about the wierd and wacky stuff on the internet? Like the lego porn page, or the telephone sex page (the one where telephones are having sex), the unix admin porn page, the site that you can telnet into and it does star wars (the movie) in ascii, and other things like this.

    I think I miss this the most about slashdot.

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    1. Re:Who submits? by torpor · · Score: 1

      The trouble is, what are the options? Where are the /. 'competitors' of any note these days?

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    2. Re:Who submits? by The+Only+Druid · · Score: 3, Informative

      Pretty simple: www.fark.com

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    3. Re:Who submits? by DAldredge · · Score: 1

      Hell, I have been trying to get an Ask Slashdot post about what is the best wireless card for linux but they will not post it. But they will post that stupid article about those very uncreative websites that some call art.

      I just don't get it.

    4. Re:Who submits? by DrEldarion · · Score: 1

      Remember when slashdot was about the wierd and wacky stuff on the internet? Like the lego porn page, or the telephone sex page (the one where telephones are having sex), the unix admin porn page

      So bsaically you're looking for a site that only links to odd sex-related things?

    5. Re:Who submits? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, this *is* the internet, ya know....

    6. Re:Who submits? by torpor · · Score: 1

      fark is shit for tek news... boingboing.net ... ?

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    7. Re:Who submits? by hugzz · · Score: 1
      Remember when slashdot was about the wierd and wacky stuff on the internet? Like the lego porn page, or the telephone sex page (the one where telephones are having sex), the unix admin porn page

      i find a lot of the articles here interesting. if you dont like slashdot, i'm sure google cant help you find more whacky pr0n

    8. Re:Who submits? by merlin_jim · · Score: 1

      Remember when slashdot was about the wierd and wacky stuff on the internet? Like the lego porn page, or the telephone sex page (the one where telephones are having sex), the unix admin porn page, the site that you can telnet into and it does star wars (the movie) in ascii, and other things like this.

      I can't help but notice that you provide 4 examples of "vintage slashdot"... three of which are porn related, and the fourth is star wars in ascii, which to a geek is so close to porn that they're indistinguishable...

      What I'm hearing is that there should be a mirror site, showing classic slashdot type content, called slashpron

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  25. What did you expect? They're invisible! by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 1, Redundant

    What did you expect of a photo of invisible speakers? The web page is displaying perfectly in Firebird 0.7. It's a white screen with no image.

  26. Re:Contemplating SUICIDE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    if you kill yourself, may i have sex with your wife?>

    Thanks.

  27. That is not a segway clone. by EmCeeHawking · · Score: 1

    Do the editors/submitters ever RTFA before posting? It is not even remotely like a Segway. It has 4 wheels and uses conventional "twist the handlebars" steering. Rather than classifying this as an "underpriced segway" it should have been classified as an "overpriced scooter".

  28. No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's a great idaea, just because you're too much of a dumb shit to use one. Just stick with your mother's bus ticket, and the rest of us will just pass you by.

    1. Re:No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a great idaea, just because you're too much of a dumb shit to use one. Just stick with your mother's bus ticket, and the rest of us will just pass you by.

      No.

      It's a crappy idea. ...just because you're too much of a fat ass to walk.

      Get a bike.

      BTW, you sound bitter, like you've had this conversation before. Could it be that you are one of the few who bought this thing, so that you could commute to CS class, and now resent the fact that you're laughed at by everyone in a fifty-mile radius?

      Just a thought.

  29. Do not do it by Orion+Blastar · · Score: 1

    trust me, I've been to the brink of suicide and back. I've lost a friend to suicide. I've known sucidal people.

    You do not want to do it, trust me on this. You have a lot of life left in you, do not throw it away.

    While things appear hopeless, you can do something about it.

    Get a book on parenting, learn to budget things. You don't have to buy your children toys all the time, try getting creative and give them a cardboard box to play with and crayons to draw on that box. Won't cost you much and keeps them happy.

    Get a private detective to follow your wife around and get pictures. If you have proof of her cheating on you, get a divorse or confront her with the pictures.

    You have writer's block, most likely caused by your depression. You need to take your mind off of things and do something fun. Or get an assistant to co-write the books with you and share credit. Share ideas with the assistant that you have, and observations you've made, and research results. You obvously have the knowledge and education, but seem to not have the writing skills.

    You are not letting us down, you are; however, letting yourself down. You need to learn to forgive yourself, and deal with the issues in your life. Fight for it, I know you can.

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  30. ServerSide java had a good year too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There has been 50% increase of Java ServerSide site this year than last year. Among most popular servlet engine was
    Tomcat which is developed by Apache

    Apache's J2EE Jeranamo Server is coming out end of this year.

  31. Stax by Tikal · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I don't think this is the first transparent speaker ever to come to market. I say this because I spent a fair portion of my childhood in front of a pair of Stax speakers -- the 6' high variety, two panels apiece. One of our audiophile friends had a pair of the 3' high speakers with only one panel each.

    You could indeed see through these; there was only a layer of something like a coarse cheesecloth in front of them, and a metal grill of sorts behind, protecting what I understood was a pair of sandwiched plastic layers that looked like celophane. Our cats would eye the whole arrangement from time to time and flex their claws. They learned to stay away from them eventually.

    This particular pair was a factory-rejected "showroom model", coming at a significant discount: the engineers had the bright idea of putting two LEDs on the bottom of the speakers to indicate whether you were overdriving the speakers. Green was loud but acceptable, and Red meant that you'd probably already committed one or more of the precious panels to the garbage. Unfortunately, their reviewers, who like to listen in dark rooms at high volume, found the presense of a bright green LED "distracting". The company purportedly removed it from subsequent models.

    The panels were apparently very low-yield -- something like only 11 pairs a year were manufactured, and it's seems pretty obvious from Stax's headphone-centric website that they're no longer making them. We did manage to get a replacement panel from them once, about 2 years after we purchased the speakers, but I'm pretty sure that won't happen again. The speakers had another problem recently with capacitors in their power supply leaking -- just recently we found a second batch when the second speaker's started going bad, but I don't believe they've been installed yet. A bit of a shame, really.

    As a side note, these speakers completely spoiled me -- nothing which I've had since sounds nearly as clear. With a good recording, you could close your eyes and completely lose yourself. These taught me to appreciate vinyl far more than I would have otherwise; with some listening and comparison, I could even understand why my father had gone with a tube amp rather than a solid state one...

    1. Re:Stax by Tikal · · Score: 1

      Incidentally, their headphones were very nice too.

    2. Re:Stax by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe five years ago I remember seeing an article about speakers made from panels of glass, and how they were going to revolutionize the speaker world due to their small size and superior sound quality.
      Hadn't heard anything since then, but I just found a website about them.
      http://www.hiddenspeakers.com/product/149
      http://www.glas-platz.de/_index.htm

      I suppose if I actually looked a little harder I could find acutal information as opposed to an ordering page.

    3. Re:Stax by ipxodi · · Score: 1

      Several companies make electro-static speakers similar to the Stax design. Notable among them would be Martin-Logan or Magaplanar.

      And yes, you're right -- once you've listened extensively to electro-static speakers, nothing else seems to measure up.

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  32. My depression is cured by... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    TROLLIN'!

  33. Me too.... by microbob · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Ever since I got my TiVo my Proscan HD decoder just collects dust....

    I did use it a little last month when I tried out HDNet, but sadily I'm addicted to TiVo (dual tuner no less) and promptly cancelled HDNet and turned the Proscan off.

    -mb

  34. Re:Contemplating SUICIDE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Boo-hoo...

    Welcome to the real world. What did you think, kids were easy, books wrote themselves, life was going to be a party? Life is as tough as it can be because after 3bn years of evolution you're either a tough, fighting SOB, or you're waste.

    Go ahead, try to kill yourself. It is not as easy as it sounds, takes some practice and a lot more courage than you might imagine. Probably the best way is to get really, really drunk, then go for a car drive on a mountain road. Put the music real loud and just imagine your wife and the chair. That should do it.

    Six billion people, sorry but you're not exactly special. Move over and make space for someone who can make better use of their Sundays.

  35. A REAL Segway Clone... by ferrellcat · · Score: 2, Informative

    Why screw around with this lame four-wheeled "scooter", when you can make your very own segway clone???

    http://www.tlb.org/scooter.html

  36. Corporate festival by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Great article, great concepts, why the weird endorsement of PCmag.com, a corporate autofellatatic cluster of sycophants if one has ever existed? "Windows XP has a pleasant and accomodating interface..." die!

  37. Fat pervert in butterfly suit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.pcmag.com/slideshow/0,3018,p=2&a=115870 &po=11&i=1,00.asp

  38. Re:Contemplating SUICIDE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Whoever modded this down, you suck. The guy's trying to help someone and you mod him offtopic? The parent poster seems to be an obvious troll, but with suicide it's not worth taking chances.

  39. Ok, here's what I found... by GRH · · Score: 2, Funny
    1. Re:Ok, here's what I found... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Heh, I wouldn't exactly call those flat panels...

  40. coolest thing in the nextgen home by JVert · · Score: 1

    If you look at the PC magazine picture there is an new menu option called "My Home". This is a third party application for home automation, I saw this at the house and thought this was the coolest thing of all. From this app you can control the lights, create mood scenes, play the media center music through the whole house and control each rooms audio level. There is some awsome security stuff where you can watch all of your security cameras, arm your house and even watch the security zones fire off as you walk through the house. It was alot of fun turning on and off the lights in each room and they even had a cadillac out in the backyard where you can control the house from there too.

  41. Yet another highlight by MochaMan · · Score: 4, Funny

    And speaking of things you can mount. Here's yet another highlight.

    1. Re:Yet another highlight by fraudrogic · · Score: 1

      I saw these girls live (next to a kick ass golf simulation, swinging real clubs at real golf balls at a projection screen).

      I'll tell you right now, the blond was NOT wearing anything under that shirt when I saw her. The "turkey was done" in its full glory!

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  42. Invisible speakers by aflat362 · · Score: 1

    The speakers are made of LEXAN plastic which is the same material that those Nalgene bottles are made of.

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  43. Detroit auto show has toys too by AndroidCat · · Score: 1
    Little gizmos for big machines on display at annual Detroit auto show The big thing seems to be LEDs on controls that you can change the colour of. Woohoo! And this one sounds like something out of Videodrome:
    Standard on the Mercedes-Benz S55 AMG sports sedan and the S600 luxury sedan are seats that circulate air through the cushion, drawing off perspiration in hot weather. The seats also can be programmed to "breathe," inflating and deflating twice each minute to relax the spine and back muscles.
    Now that's just not right!
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  44. d00d but thAr s3gw4y iz a sc00ter!!!#$!$ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It has two wheels so it is a scooter! And it is expensive and imperfect, therefore all other two-wheeled machines are superior!!!!!!!!! Didn't you get the memo?

  45. qrio.zip without registration by aardwolf204 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Can anyone post qrio.zip? I dont feel like registering.

    Yeah I'm lazy

    Anyway, looks like a pretty spiffy robot, would love to see it run.

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  46. PC Mag's Best CES 2004 Pictures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think the rest of Slashdot will agree with me that the two chicks in this picture were the hottest of those shown in PC Mag's collection of pictures. The mood-ring chick easily takes second place.

  47. Mod Up..Funny! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Funny yes

  48. Re:Contemplating SUICIDE by Concerned+Onlooker · · Score: 1
    Nice. Your post is a perfect example of how "3bn years of evolution" have not brought us very far.

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  49. Best PR quote ever... by mgcsinc · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The best PR quote ever has got to be:

    "Although local governments have placed restrictions on riding Segways in crowded city streets, Wang said the same restrictions shouldn't apply to the Electric Chariot. "It's not a Segway," he said. "But we're going to say to the consumer, 'You bought it, you figure it out.'""

    This Segway imitiation is a joke; it's playing on the segway image with absolutly none of the same technology. This thing is more related to an senior-citizen mobility soloution, except you stand up. And it even has a name to match!

    1. Re:Best PR quote ever... by hugzz · · Score: 1
      This Segway imitiation is a joke; it's playing on the segway image with absolutly none of the same technology.

      why would one want to play on the segway image anyway? no one owns them. it was hype for a few weeks and then died down to nothing.

  50. How do those invisible speakers sound by servognome · · Score: 1
    Every year we see technology like this come out (devices that turn any flat surface into a speaker, turn glass tables into speakers) but most of the time the sound isn't great.

    I have a Panasonic Panasonic SJ-MJ57 Minidisc player that comes with clear speakers, even cool blue LEDs that light them up. The downside is that the sound is pretty bad.

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  51. Turns out it needn't be very fancy after all. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

    As someone pointed out, wouldn't it be much cheaper if they just added a third wheel on a spring? No need for all these fancy balancing systems...

    I was at a convention last Nov where a fellow had hacked up his own Segway-like device. Very stable. Very zippy. Very controllable.

    Segway talks a lot about how hard the balance problem is, going on about the number of processors they threw at the problem. This guy said it was actually pretty simple. Yes you do need a rate gyro and an accellerometer. But they're not all THAT expensive and the control loop is pretty basic.

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  52. How to render the Segway obsolete by Caseyscrib · · Score: 1
  53. good times roll by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

    In the future, Americans will never leave our cars.

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    1. Re:good times roll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      American cars are bigger than European apartments!

    2. Re:good times roll by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      European phones are smaller than New York apartments, and more mobile than American cars!

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  54. Cooking Robot by Herkum01 · · Score: 1

    Think about your target market for a cooking robot. It is going to be a bunch of single men who don't want to cook and don't have any idea of what to buy. Suppose they forget to buy enough hot dogs one day. I think that is what the result would be...

    "Bob, I made you a nice refreshing tobasco, relish and ketchup sandwich... I even through a little soy sauce on there to make it something special!"

    It ain't gonna work like you think it would!

    1. Re:Cooking Robot by danila · · Score: 1

      Why don't single men buy advanced ingredients? Because they can't cook them anyway! When they have a cooking robot, they will simply buy what it orders (to always maintain a nice supply of ingredients to provide a varied menu) or the robot will simply send a message to the automated store that will send the food (on the automated delivery system) to the home, where the intelligent refridgerator will take it in and supply the cooking robot as needed.

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      Future Wiki -- If you don't think about the future, you cannot have one.
    2. Re:Cooking Robot by bluGill · · Score: 1

      I find that not having ingreadents isn't the biggest problem. I got lots of steak in my freezer. I just forget to thaw it before I leave, and I'm too hungry after work to bother anyway. Likewise I have vegtables and potatos, but by the time I get home from work I'm too tired and hungry to spend an hour cooking, so I toss a froozen pizza in the oven despite wanting something better. If nothing else, the robot can order delivery for missing ingreadents. (I know the big names in web grocerys are out of buisness, but in my neighborhood there is a company doing it)

      I think you are wrong about single men being the target. I know plenty of families where both adults work, but they want a family meal at 6:00 sharp. It doesn't happen unless they go out because by the time they get home from work there isn't time to make a nice meal.

      I specificly mentioned a robot that is out of the way when it is not working, so those who like to cook can do so when they have time.

  55. Definitely Not a Segway by SethJohnson · · Score: 2, Insightful


    Actually, I don't think it would be easy to tip this thing forward. The geometry is such that your center of gravity is behind the wheels on that platform. This means it requires considerable force to 'lift' you up for you to tip over forward. If your gravity were centered on the axles of the two front wheels, then definitely a twig or something would send you tumbling.

    That being said, this scooter looks like a massive piece of crap. Not massive in size, but massive in its crapiness. There's no real innovation in this device. It's just a real cosmetic imitation of the Segway. A better buy is one of those cheap scooter things people are selling in the parking lots of abandoned gas stations these days. And I say that knowing that you don't have any kind of return policy with a vendor who doesn't have a permanent physical address.
  56. Re:Contemplating SUICIDE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I have a much better idea that suicide: become a wage slave. If writing books isn't working out, get a dead-end job at McDonalds. With the $700 that you'll take home in the first month, you can pay part of the kids' bills and get your wife some sexy new underwear so that her new lover will find her exciting.

    Then, when she comes home late and her breath smells like semen, and the kids play with their new toys instead of paying attention to you, you'll know that you have provided for them. Of course, the bills still won't be completely paid and you'll be a cuckold, and you might start thinking that you're not really a man.

    Well, that's ok, because you're not. Embrace the truth: you're white trash scum.

    Once you realize that, then you're ready for the next step to your salvation: stop paying the bills. Instead of paying the kids' bills and buying your wife some lacy underwear for her lover's enjoyment, go spend your $700/month McDonalds money on cheap bar floozies. Drink a lot, and while you're in a stupor, make awkward pathetic passes at the girls half your age at the bar.

    The State will eventually take your kids away and the wife will leave, so those problems solve themselves. All your problems will be solved, and you won't even be dead yet.

    After the second or third month of your new life, your mortgage will probably be foreclosed or you'll be evicted from your apartment. Now it's time to live on the street for a while. Maybe sneak some "food" out from your job at McDonalds. Then, when things are finally at their darkest and you can't afford a hooker (or even enough beer at the bar in order to work up the nerve to make an ass of yourselve in front of the 20-year-old girls), then it will be time for the last evening of your life.

    Spend your last few dollars on a fifth of booze, drink it all at once, and go lie down in a cold alley and take a nice nap. Forever.

    Then the next day, the wife and kids will realize that they should have treated you better. That'll show 'em! You will have won!

  57. It wasn't redundant... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It wasn't redundant when I first posted it! Someone just copied my post higher in the comments.