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MandrakeMove Final Available for Download
hendridm writes "According to the Mandrake Linux web page, 'MandrakeMove is available for download - Everything for Office, Multimedia and Internet on a single live CD: the final version of MandrakeMove Download Edition is now publicly available for download. Make your Windows-friends discover how powerful and friendly Mandrake Linux is: this couldn't be easier than with MandrakeMove!' Go team." (We mentioned this version of Mandrake before; of course, if you download, you don't get a memory key with the deal ;))
I don't really understand what the Move part of it means. Is that move from Windows, move around, mobile...? The web site doesn't seem to explain.
I am moving away from RedHat 8 and I'm still doubting between Mandrake and Fedora. Guess this settles it... or not? Which one should I choose?
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I know you dont get the Key but does that mean you can't use one??? Surely someone out there will write something to get around this. If anyone knows of a way around this please post it here.
It dosen't come close to Konppix. MandrakeMove *assumes* that you have at least a 128MB USB memory key plugged into the PC because you still have to set it up. That's a bad thing. I'll still use Knoppix.
I moved _away_ from Mandrake.
Too buggy. It was a nice learning system though for moving from windows to Linux. Plenty of bugs and problems to fight with.
I finally got tired of Mandrake problems, not just me but all the family and friends I support, and moved everyone to Suse.
Rock solid. ALL features work right out of the box with the exception of burning MP3's to audio CDR with K3b (Suse forgot to include MP3 support on compilation) but an update is online.
Suse is great. Mandrake, eh... Yeah I tried it, for a year and a half and it helped me learn and adjust to Linux. It's OK for newbies but it IS buggy...
Being a little more windows dependant that some slashdot folk, I always find trying to switch my laptop to 100% linux is a little like giving up smoking... I always seem to relapse to windows (or at best dual boot).
I like using unix style operating systems for work, but it can be hard to leave some of the games behind. I also get my fair share of driver issues and havent quite managed to get vid conf from a linux desktop to a windows desktop working.
The idea of having a CD that I throw in to boot an OS used for serious work seems like a good one to me, that way I still get windows (lets face it, most of us have already paid for it anyway!), its a best of both worlds.
I have one concern, presumably the OS needs a partition to write temporary data to, and even if it doesnt what good is an OS that cant save files to disk (before anyone gets smart, I will qualify that with a desktop operating system for your standard PC/Laptop).
So the $64'000 is, how reliable is the NTFS support? I read things like "Dont write to NTFS, it could trash the partition!", which basically is a show-stopper for me...
Maybe im way out of date, but a quick glance at the Mandrake move website didnt give me the info.
Can anyone clear this up?
I'd rather see more focus on a core linux that is fast and capable, with reliable drivers...something capable of running a java vm and the upcoming Java Desktop reliably.
I've been trying a number of deaktop apps in the mulimedia space, and it's a huge moving target. Interfaces upon interfaces upon interfaces, all depending on each other, all demanding that bug reporters recompile everything with debugging enabled and provide backtraces, each group a little clique pointing their fingers at the other cliques...none of the apis are stable, not even the default locations of the libs, constant whining in the configure scripts about "whatever.pc" needing to be updated, lower layer drivers (jackit.sourceforge.net) are listed as alpha, but people writing audio apps claim their code is "beta" or "production" yet it requires this "jack" daemon, which freezes every box i run it on within 5 minutes? Absurd.
It's going to take a single entity, like Sun or IBM, to create a "Java Desktop" that runs on top of the VM. This would be a fully guided effort, one that leaves the lower layers to the pros and lets developers write all the crap they want on top--and usually gives quality backtraces right from the get go.
Best of all, one quality API that easily extensible for pretty much anything, and has been beaten on for ten years...almost as long as the linux kernel. In one fell swoop, KDE/Qt/Gnome all go into the toilet, where, IMHO, they belong. Note I didn't say GTK, for obvious reasons.
This gets the hardcore developers back to what they do best--creating and maintaining a glue layer. There's no reason that the people working on Gnome/KDE/Qt could not rally behind a free VM/Swing/whatever implementation, making the best one on the planet.
The kernel is a solid, stable interface, it's for the most kickass developers to move up a layer and get a fantastic VM and Swing-type toolkit working, so developers can rally around a development environment that is stable and works.
Sure, they've gotten better.
Mandrake has, during some version cycles, binned a lot of the bugs infesting Mandrake's semi-good releases from about 7.2 (when I started to get to know Mandrake) until 9.0. I am now running Mandrake 9.2, and, except for some rarities with the installation choosing the correct CDs, cannot say that there are any very remarkable bugs. The control center works great (to the extent that I am using it, which is little), and I think it's very understandable. Even my mom uses it out of the box.
In addition, if you sign up for MandrakeClub, you get a bunch of extra RPMs and commercial software. And, if you buy the boxed stuff, you get a lot of nice features like digital camera automounting (which pops up a desktop icon).
There is a QA, and it covers bug testing through Cooker (Mandrake development version). I've also noticed that they update the release ISOs when there are extra annoying bugs that might slip through.
All in all, Mandrake has matured while still keeping the user friendliness that they focus so much on. The releases, in my opinion, mostly look great. Configuration utilities ease with time, and I presume that in one or two major Mandrake releases (now for 10, might get to 11) we'll see a wonderful system that works for anyone.
As of the fonts, Mandrake is good at keeping this up to date. The fonts in Gnome and KDE are antialiased, and OpenOffice look good if you're using the "replacement" fonts for Windows fonts. If you have a windows install, Mandrake autogets these fonts and installs them.
What is involved in customizing (making changes to desktop theme, what apps are installed, any other settings) and remastering (burning a new live CD that includes your changes but is otherwise just like the original) the MandrakeMove compared to the Knoppix?
The idea of being able to make custom live CDs is extremely appealing, but it is not a trivial process, at least for Knoppix. There are many gory details to keep track of. And last I checked there was a detailed document of the steps involved, but it did not convey information about the Knoppix boot process and structure (i.e. it didn't really help you understand how your changes were being preserved), only what to type in order to remaster.
Also, there is apparently some bug with ext2 and hard links that messes up the size of the new image. For example, if you boot Knoppix, extract it to a partition, and then make no changes but immediately compress it back into an ISO (remaster it), the result should be identical to the CD you booted from, but instead the new ISO is several megs larger than the original CD and will not fit on a disc.
Is perhaps Morphix a better way for custom live CDs? Or is it not yet polished enough to make it "easy"?
My expreience: 8.2 and 9.1 were great. 9.0 and 9.2 were buggy.
I since moved to MEPIS which also runs off a live CD, has a USB key feature and the HD install involves double clicking a link on the desktop.
It's Debian based and has a ton of things pre-configured by default (things like Java and browser plugins).
I have an iPod and the USB cable. What would it take to use the iPod instead of a keychain?
I'm particularly thankful for them because they make my laptop with a dead hard drive usable.
The download version is worthless because of the features cut out from it and the payware version doesn't have anything I haven't seen in a ton of other Knoppix mods. Nvidia drivers, flash, USB Thumbdrive support, acrobat? These are all things many LiveCd's have.
I just don't see the point of this distro except for Mandrake users who don't know that you can download basically the same thing for free with other Live cd's. The things Mandrake is known for, ie ease of install, ease of longterm admin don't apply in the transient nature of Live cd's. Compared to what's already available for Free the Mandrake version is just not compelling enough to make people pay for it.
Hope they are doing this more as a service then something they actually hope to make money on.
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