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Solar Powered Jacket Charges Your Gadgets

blorg writes "Wired News has a story about a new jacket from SCOTTeVEST that uses flexible solar panels on the shoulders to recharge gadgets in the pockets. The idea is that you can now keep all of your gadgets charged, even if you are spending an extended period of time away from a power source. The solar charging is an addition to an existing jacket with features including 42 hidden pockets that can be wired together through the jacket lining."

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  1. Do not support them. by grub · · Score: 5, Funny


    In the interests of political correctness I wish to formally protest this device.

    It doesn't take into account the needs of miners, subway operators and sewer workers. I dream of a world in which these forgotten peoples and we surface dwellers can join hands in peace and rejoice in equal-opportunity recharging.

    Thank you.

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  2. Old Sci-Fi? by Grey_14 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Anyone get flashbacks to old Sci-Fi shows? with the gigantic shoulder pads? Can we get high stainless steel collars on our jackets too now?

  3. Homeland Security will love this one. by Damon+C.+Richardson · · Score: 2, Funny

    Can't wait to walk past TSA with this hooked up to my pda, mp3 player and gameboy advance.

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    1. Re:Homeland Security will love this one. by Mr+Guy · · Score: 4, Funny

      Doesn't even NEED devices attached. Run this through an Xray machine and pray you have your receipt and owners manual with you when they are trying to figure out why your jacket is wired up like a Christmas tree.

  4. Try and get that through airport security. by FJ · · Score: 5, Funny

    Get prepared to answer about one million questions when you put it through the xray machine. To be on the safe side, arrive about 2 days prior to your departure time.

  5. Hmmm... by cabingirl · · Score: 3, Funny

    So they make a geek toy that requires sunlight to operate? How will we maintain our pasty complexions?

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  6. Re:Yeah, right by TheGatekeeper · · Score: 2, Funny

    Waoh, the rumours of the daystar are TRUE!

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  7. Gadget geek? Sunlight.? by John+Jorsett · · Score: 5, Funny

    Does anyone else see a fundamental flaw in the assumptions about the potential market?

  8. I had a SCOTTeVEST ... by torpor · · Score: 5, Informative

    ... and I have to say that its crap.

    The build quality is ludicrous - the magnet clasps fell out 3 days after I put it on.

    Plus, even though I ordered a medium, it still seems like you have to be a fat, overweight geek with 17 gadgets in his pockets in order for it to fit right.

    My opinion is this: don't get one unless you're going to walk around with $2,000 of gear stuffed into the pockets, because it won't fit right otherwise...

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    1. Re:I had a SCOTTeVEST ... by proj_2501 · · Score: 3, Informative

      You know, having an average Tac vest from your local Army Navy surplus store may do the trick. They come in nice colors.

  9. SCOttevest? Uh oh... by SoTuA · · Score: 2, Funny
    those guys should expect a lawsuit withing the hour, as SCO will claim that they own the patents and intellectual properties on the sun, heat, and the universe.

    Darl: "Your honor, the vest is called a SCOttevest. It is a clear indicator that our IP has been incorporated in this vest!"

    Judge Scott: "I'm not amused."

  10. Re:Wash by mfisher · · Score: 2, Informative

    How should my SCOTTeVEST(R) be cared for? Why can't I dry clean my SCOTTeVEST(R)? First, and most importantly, REMOVE ALL DEVICES, WIRES, KEYS, etc. from your SeV. Then, it's easy! DO NOT DRY CLEAN! You will ruin the fabric if you do so. Machine wash in cold water with like colors, delicate cycle recommended. Do not use bleach. Tumble dry LOW, cool iron if necessary. Do not dry flat. Do not steam press.

  11. Version Three.0 + Finetex by locknloll · · Score: 3, Funny
    From the feature list:
    Perfect For
    • Skiing/Snowboarding
    • Photography
    • Traveling
    • Hiking
    • Law enforcement
    Law enforcement... cool. Now the cops can keep their 50kV stun guns charged all the time!
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  12. Re:Wash by grub · · Score: 2, Funny

    You put the hood up and walk through a car wash.

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  13. But what happens... by CaptainAlbert · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...when it starts raining? ...when you try to get through airport security? ...when someone h4X0rs your jacket via Bluetooth? ...when you can't find your pager/cellphone because you have 42 different pockets?

    Personally, I think they haven't thought this one through. Solar power is for wimps. My jacket has a 17-foot lightning rod attached for energy collection. (It was either that or the rubber-soled-shoe/shag-pile-carpet combination, but that only works indoors.)

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  14. Thanks but no thanks by Judg3 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The jacket is a cool idea, but unless all of the devices worn on it are bulletproof (which would be pretty slick) I'll pass.
    As it is, I had an Ipaq as well as several other PDAs before. They where just to fragile for me to consider carrying them that close to me all the time.
    About the only thing I feel comfortable carrying on my person would be my cellphone and pager - everything else would have me trying to constantly remember things like "Ok, PDA in pocket X, make sure I don't sit/do jumping jacks/box/etc etc".

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  15. You have two options for charge using that jacket by Via_Patrino · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You have two options for charge that jacket:

    1) Use it with you inside, but you can damage your skin appearence or get cancer that way

    2) Leave the jacket staring on the sun, but the sun will damage your jacket (specially colors) and soon you will not be able to use it on yourself (you still can just carry it with you though)

    I would prefer carry just that flexible solar panels on my pocket/car/wallet

  16. features including 42 hidden pockets by ocie · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now where did I put those keys?

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  17. FineTex exterior by Sara+Chan · · Score: 2, Interesting
    The jacket has a FineTex exterior. Does anyone know how this compares with Goretex? (The web sitesays "just like Gore-Tex, but not as costly".)

    1. Re:FineTex exterior by Scott+Jordan · · Score: 3, Informative

      It is water-proof and breathable, and you can't tell the difference between this and Gore-tex. Scott Jordan, President, www.scottevest.com

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  18. Re:Clever by thomasa · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "production uses up more energy than they provide in their entire lifetime"

    This is false. The energy used in production
    is balanced by the energy produced after a couple
    of years of solar energy production. Solar cells
    can have a life time of over 20 years.

  19. Headphones in the hood? by richlb · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Why didn't they stick a hood on that thing and integrate headphones into it? That would be cool.

  20. Intended public: Eloi by mangu · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's not designed for Morlocks.

  21. Jackass by GlassUser · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm not buying crap from this guy. I'd never heard of him until I got a spam listing one of his products (in all fairness, I have no reason to believe that this original spam was in any way affiliated with him). Apparently an image was linked from his web site, so when I reported it, his ISP got on the LART list. (this part is my conjecture) He ignored the request for info from his ISP, and as per their policy that he agreed to, they disabled his site. He didn't find out for a couple more days and then got really pissed at me (end my conjecture). So he emailed me and threatened to sue me for things like trying to destroy his business, taking his name (his last name is my first name), and some kind of trade infringement since we have the same name and we have businesses that work with portable computers. I told him where to stick it and to learn to be responsible for his web site and customers, he said I'd hear from his lawyer. A few months later I got a not-quite-spam from his company. (more conjecture follows) Either his ISP didn't think it was spam, they ignored the LART, or he learned to actually check up on his web site.

    Either way I make sure to tell people not to do business with this loser.

    1. Re:Jackass by ahrenritter · · Score: 3, Informative

      I purchased their products for myself and as gifts. I've communicated with both him and his wife and they were professional and friendly.

      I accidentally got on their mailing list twice, and I was easily able to unsubscribe the second address.

      I won't discount any of your statements since I don't know the details of your interaction with him, but I just wanted to give my personal opinions regarding SCOTTeVEST.

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  22. lady with "warmer" jacket already stopped by Speare · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There are a number of wired jackets which would cause security problems. A lady with a self-warming leather jacket was stopped recently, and there are self-defense electrified jackets which would definitely be seen as a weapon.

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    1. Re:lady with "warmer" jacket already stopped by way2trivial · · Score: 2, Informative

      more than stopped, on a flight from Paris to Cinci, the pilot requested fighter accompanyment due to the 'heater jacket'

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    2. Re:lady with "warmer" jacket already stopped by jafac · · Score: 2, Informative

      If GWBush could fly one. . . then I seriously doubt your assertion that "anyone allowed to fly a jet is a highly trained and very disciplined individual."

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  23. Real geek test by Realistic_Dragon · · Score: 2, Funny

    Can I get one with a built in tin-foil lined hood?

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  24. Solar Power Rocks - website is down temporarily by Scott+Jordan · · Score: 5, Informative

    Thanks for the post! The traffic from slashdot caused our website to crash. Please bear with us.

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  25. Upgrade your jacket idea. by pecosdave · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What about a baseball cap with a solar brim? Plug it into your jacket for added solar surface area (more watts). Whats better, in places like Texas where I live you don't wear a jacket but a few months out of the year, but a cap can be worn year round. Use it as a stand alone device. In the Western part of the state a cap brim would pull in more juice than a jacket cap combo in lot of places. Just sounds like the natural next step to me.

    No. Even though I'm a Texan I don't thing a solar Stetson would sell. Well, maybe a few....

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  26. Backpack/Carrying Case by SuchiRu · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is a good idea, but I beleve it is implimented in the wrong way. People are not going to buy jackets that have this. Why not put this technology/idea into a backpack? You could place the solar panels on the sholders on the backpack, or even a sort of side bag that has become so popular. Woul this not be a more appealing idea? Personally I would buy a backpack that had this feature. My laptop always needs those good ol' rays of cancer.*gigle*

  27. One problem with this. by Orclover · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They are assuming we go out into the sunshine, hell i spend my entire work day in a windowless closet of a server room with the light out to keep the heat down.

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  28. On the other hand... by mangu · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...who wears a jacket on a sunny day?

  29. Re:Solar good, stupid bad. by NixLuver · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That's because they don't want you sucking up their precious power.

    I'd wager that there are enough people with cell phones, PDAs, laptops, and portable music devices that to provide any significant number of outlets would generate a hefty boost in the electric bill... Not to mention that they couldn't put in 'a few'.

  30. Re:I know your wrong by Revek · · Score: 3, Informative

    I came across some cells from the late 70's and they still produce electricity. Compare that with the production cost of a rechargeable battery or an alkaline and I am sure you will see that over the lifetime of the solar cell (which has yet to be determined) they end up costing next to nothing in comparison.

  31. What woud make this perfect by Cy+Guy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Would be for the jacket to also accept firewire, USB 2.0 and bluetooth connections from the gadgets then act as a WiFi router back to your computer and/or the Internet. Now that would be sweet.

    Walk by an open Access Point and suddenly you get updated for your email, the latest RSS feed from SlashDot, the MP3 tracks from that CD your friend just baought and ripped, etc.

  32. A reason to go outside... by PSaltyDS · · Score: 3, Funny

    For you /. types who need a reason to go outdoors, hook your solar-jacket up to one of these, and you'll never go back inside again!

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  33. Full Press Release by Scott+Jordan · · Score: 2, Informative

    For the full Press Release see: http://www.scottevest.com/htmlemail/icp_release/in dex.html However, due to all the traffic, I think our server is down temporarily. We are working on it! Scott Jordan

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  34. Re:Clever by pavon · · Score: 2, Informative

    Exactly. The source of this common misunderstanding was some calculations that people did a while back looking at the feasability study seeing if that large "solar plant" (the one with a bunch of reflectors all going to a single collector in the center), could be completely self containing. The result was that it couldn't because if solar was your only form of energy you would end up loosing alot of energy when converting it to various forms. Transportation was a particular problem - you waste alot of energy converting solar energy to a form that can be used by a train or semi.

    So kwh-for-kwh solar does recoup at least 5x the energy that you put into it. And at the same time it does have a negative emergy ratio (note the m). What that means is that solar is great as a supplemental power source, but we need to find another energy source to power things like transportation.

  35. Yeah, but will it ... by Devlin-du-GEnie · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... capture and purify my perspiration so that I can survive in a hyper-arid desert environment?

    Think bigger, ScottEVest.

  36. Re:Wasn't someone by wideBlueSkies · · Score: 2, Funny

    >>Electrodes on your nipples?

    Powered by your very own solar panels. No sense wasting taxpayer money on electricity. :)

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  37. Someone already said it by The+Tyro · · Score: 2, Informative

    but I might recommend a variant on the Army/Navy store tac vest... a photographer's vest.

    You wouldn't believe how many pockets, clasps, D-rings, etc come on one of those.

    I have one... love it.

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  38. Re:Clever by spitzak · · Score: 3, Informative

    A battery (even a rechargable one) has negative energy costs too. It takes energy to manufacture them, plus all the energy that you get out has to be put in.

    Mensa indeed.

  39. Re:this guy has been trolling this vest for years by Scott+Jordan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You are completely wrong on almost all your "facts" and assertions. Just to name a few: We have no VC funding. The product is priced right. Try to find any similar products with less features for anything less. Fisherman vests cost about $100 and look ugly. Of course I would like to hit a home run. Who wouldn't? I suppose when you step up to bat you are satisfied striking out??? Good luck to you in all your endeavors. Perhaps the media knows something that you don't. Scott Jordan, CES SCOTTeVEST LLC

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  40. Re:Bad karma vibes comeing from this guy by glesga_kiss · · Score: 2, Interesting
    He's got a family-owned nitch business, and he is a tech-nut. I don't see *anything* wrong with his only postings on Slashdot being about his products.

    I agree. How many folk have things in their sigs linking to products or OSS project they have worked on? Quite a lot. Or, how many "sorry for OUR server melting" posts are there...?

    Provided is isn't a "First post, buy the jacket" type of person with nothing to contribute other than noise, then it's not a bad thing. Everyone wants to plug their shit...

  41. Better solar cloth on the horizon(?) by cryptochrome · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Just when Spheral Solar is finally working out the manufacturing angle. Their tech has the advantages of crystal cells but is flexible.

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  42. Definitive Energy analysis + Back of Envelope by WOV · · Score: 2, Insightful

    1. You're exactly right. This national laboratory study is generally considered definitive.

    2. Idiot Check:

    Bulk unsubsidized price of a 100 watt solar panel:

    $350

    Lifetime energy production:

    100W * 8 hours a day * 300 days per year * 25 years

    6,000,000 Wh (6000 kWh)

    Retail price of that electricity: $.10 / kWh

    $600

    Not a lot of profit margin for the manufacturer there is there?

    I'll confess that I am beginning to lose my patience with debunking this over and over again; it was true back in the 1950s-60s when solar power was an elaborately hand-assembled product, and before you techie people caused the silicon market to blow up so hugely. (Though these are probably CIGS instead of crystalline silicon.)

  43. True - but only for a given value of true by dbIII · · Score: 2, Interesting
    the solar cells weight the same as batteries
    This is absolutely correct, 1kg of solar cells weighs the same as 1kg of batteries.
    their production uses up more energy than they provide in their entire lifetime
    On the surface this may seem nonsensical - but if you consider a prototype solar cell, and all the work that has gone into producing that, the fuel costs associated with producing the wheat in the sandwitches the researchers had for lunch, making the cars they drive, and the the price of their childrens education - then it certainly takes a lot of energy to do all that. Once things go into production you have ecomonies of scale, which makes it entirely possible to have a cheap pocket calculator that runs on solar cells, instead of having to plug it into a power socket. The trick of adding in extra irrelevant costs, both economic and otherwise, is widespread and is described well in Bruce Sterlings book "The Hacker Crackdown" which can be read online. In that book it describes how the material written in a manual was listed in court documents as being worth the entire cost of the computer system it was typed up on, and the wages of several employees who also had other things to do, and not the few dollars it cost to order it through the mail. This solar energy argument has similar substance, but is correct if you go to silly extremes; after all, we wouldn't have solar cells without the industrial revolution, and that generated a lot of pollution.