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Lost Doctor Who Episode Found
JSDopefish writes "In an event that most Doctor Who fans thought couldn't happen, another lost episode of Doctor Who has turned up. It's Episode Two of the 1965 William Hartnell serial, 'The Dalek Masterplan.' No word yet as to how it will be released, this news is just breaking today apparently. This is great news for fans, as the last time a lost episode was turned up was in 1999, and most folks had given up hope there were any others left to be discovered. For those who don't know, in the '70s the BBC routinely junked old stories. Not just Dr Who, but all their shows. Repeats and sales weren't an issue then. There's something like 115 or so lost Doctor Who episodes total."
Just misplaced in time. They'll show up eventually.
They should take all the "lost" ones and put them on a dvd collection.
Get your 100 tacos ready!
(sorry, had to be said...)
The really old Dr Who shows are being repeated (possibly in order) on the ABC in Australia. I thought my kids (7 & 5) would only be interested once they got to (a) colour episodes and (b) Tom Baker.
Boy, was I wrong! These are kids who still don't understand that Dad once had a *black and white* TV, but they love the shows with the first doctor. Even when I was a keen Dr Who fan, I found the first Dr pretty tough to watch, but my kids never miss it.
I'm still waiting for them to tell me the TV's broken because there's no color...
Could the episode appearing just now, out of the blue, be part of their masterplan?
EXTERMINATION is near!
Here's a question for all those die-hard Dr Who fans out there. Is there a mention in any publications (The Dr. Who Technical Manual, for instance) what software the Dalek's ran? I know at their core they were the shrivelled remains of a Kaled, but all those servo motors, life support systems and weapons had to be running some type of OS. Might it have been Debian? apt-get install davros? Just a thought.
In this new digital age where lots of people collect every episode of their favorite TV shows we won't have to worry about this again. Long live P2P.
I would like to salute the ashes of american flags, and all the fallen leaves filling up shopping bags.
is what we need to recover a the old episodes. Just zip out 30 to 40 light years record the old broadcasts and then bring it all back.
that or build a time machine.
I know I'm a young, but Doctor Who?
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Things started going badly south during the Colin Baker era and the Sylvester McCoy episodes were just awful. What a shame that just as they finally had the ability to create decent special effects the writing fell apart.
One of these days I'm moving to Theory - everything works there
Man, I'm gonna have a field day with this thread.
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http://nitro9.earth.uni.edu/doctor/lost/lost.ht
Essentially, after the episodes were initially transmitted they were stored in a warehouse. As the early 70s approached the re-saleability of old black and white shows was decided to be essentially nil. So, the tapes and films were scheduled to be destroyed. Old cellulose is a bit of a fire hazard.
Many old shows like Z-Cars and Softly, Softly were destroyed as well.
They're being recovered VERY slowly these days, as all of the foreign stations that episodes were sold to have been searched, etc. The above URL explains a lot.
I, for one, welcome our rediscovered Dalek overlords.
clearly time travel will never exit because someone would go back in time and beat to death the bbc ppl who trashed all the old dr who episodes.
If you were channel surfing at all, let alone with a remote control, you are too young to remember Doctor Who.
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I'm just feeling lucky that ALL(yes ALL) of the Tomb of the Cybermen episodes were restored. It seemed like the best story that was lost forever.
With the Dalek Master plan, there's only 9 more episodes to go before that's recovered. 5 and 10 are intact, but aren't very interesting since you're only getting a fraction of the story.
As for "The Moonbase", it was a horrible story. The special effects were very 1950s-esque right down to the Cybermen's saucer that looked like a dinner plate. Nowhere near as cool as the Invasion, where most of the episodes of that are intact.
C'mon people, start searching your basements for more DW episodes.
The touble is that Dr Who was a serial. Finding one lost episode doesn't really help much if the other half dozen that surrounds it are also missing.
Of course if there was a serial with just one missing show - then this should be grounds for much rejoicing and the stamping of large quantities of overpriced DVD's. But with all those early episodes being missing, the odds are not good.
My mother tells me that I used to have to watch Dr Who from the safety of a large cardboard box T.A.R.D.I.S down behind the sofa so I could hide when the scarey bits came on. (That would have been the Hartnell episodes - not the later stuff - which was much more tongue in cheek)
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Depending on how long ago it was, there might not have been VCRs around.
-Bucky
So, we're now down to 108 missing episodes (in 1982, it was 136)... For more info, look here and here. For some info on lost UK TV in general, have a look at this page.
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All of these 115 lost episodes were from the 1960s, before the advent of VCRs. It's possible someone could have hooked up an old fashioned camera and recorded the broadcasts manuaully, but it's not like this was something very many people bothered to do.
Although, interestingly, a number of people did do the best they could at the time. Specifically, they set up audio equipment to record to soundtrack to these episodes, and these sound-only recordings have survived to the present. The BBC, having obtained these soundtracks from the fans who recorded them, has been releasing them, with linking narration, on CD for several years now. Also, a mini-fan industry (not for profit, of course) has sprung up to "reconstruct" the episodes using these soundtracks and surviving clips and still images to give a (very) rough estimate of the original: a sort of semi-animated storybook format.
Interestingly, these fan-recorded audios tend to be of generally high quality, so much so that the so-called Reconstruction Team (the internal BBC group responsible for remastering and touching up these old DW broadcasts for video release) has occassionally used them to redub official BBC copies of extant episodes.
There are dozens of articles and books written on this sad chapter in the BBC's archival history, none of which shine well on them. Apparently, it was a classic case of miscommunication between branches of the company: the warehouses responsible for the wiping of most of these episodes simply assumed that some other branch of the BBC was archiving them, and never bothered to check and find out that no such branch actually existed. Go figure.
Sean Daugherty "I have walked in Eternity -- and Eternity weeps."
"the last time a lost episode was turned up was in 1999"
Several short clips from lost episodes have turned up as recently as 2003.
The original broadcast of Fury from the Deep was censored in New Zealand. Certain scenes (eg, "the weed creature attack" scene) were deemed to be too violent or explicit. Ironically for the censors, these censored clips are now all that is left of some episodes.
A selection of scenes from episode six of the 'lost' Troughton tale Fury from the Deep have been found.
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THE DOCTOR WHO CLIPS LIST by Steve Phillips
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