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A First Look At Meridiani Planum

loconet writes "After Opportunity 's successful landing on mars , NASA has recieved the first images showing the landing site revealing a surreal, dark landscape unlike any ever seen before on Mars. The terrain is darker than at any previous Mars landing site and has the first accessible bedrock outcropping ever seen on Mars. The outcropping immediately became a candidate target for the rover to visit and examine up close."

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  1. Hopefully fewer Mars-rats this time by ewg · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hopefully there will be fewer Mars-rats chewing on the cables this time. It would be a shame if they did to Opportunity what they're doing to Spirit!

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    1. Re:Hopefully fewer Mars-rats this time by deathcow · · Score: 4, Funny

      Dude, I told you, it wasn't Mars rats, it was the gang trouble, see.

  2. Too bad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Too bad it doesent have big lights to light up the place for an alien party :)

  3. Waiting for the "big" discovery. by Bender+Unit+22 · · Score: 4, Funny

    All I am waiting for are these guys to find "machinery" there too.
    Who knows what the pixelated'n'smoothed zooms will bring. :D

  4. Spirit is indeed a software problem by LedZeplin · · Score: 5, Informative
    After some more diagnostics, the flash memory is ok, and it's looking to be a software problem.

    2106 GMT (4:06 p.m. EST)
    "Spirit is still serious but we are moving toward guarded condition now," rover project manager Pete Theisinger reports. "I think we got a patient well on the way to recovery." In the past day, engineers have determined that Spirit's flash memory hardware is OK. A leading theory today is that a portion of the rover's software simply couldn't cope with all that was happening on Wednesday when the trouble began.

    Source

    1. Re:Spirit is indeed a software problem by bluGill · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Considering that Spirit seemed to work fine for seveal days, I suspect they will just scale back the missions a little bit until they figgure out what is wrong. If nothing else, since Spirit got outside succesfully, we can be pretty sure that Opportunity can leave normally.

      The fix needs to be found (assuming it isn't some other hardware...) so they don't run into this again. However this gives some hope that they can work while looking for the fix.

    2. Re:Spirit is indeed a software problem by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Funny

      A leading theory today is that a portion of the rover's software simply couldn't cope with all that was happening on Wednesday when the trouble began.

      Yep. That's real-time Java for you ...

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    3. Re:Spirit is indeed a software problem by orionbelt · · Score: 5, Informative

      You are indeed wrong. The two rovers are identical (PDF file). And indeed, they are trying to make sure that what happened to Spirit won't happen to Opportunity as well.

  5. Well done NASA! by Stween · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's fantastic to see that both Rover's have now landed successfully on Mars (with Spirit to become operational again soon :) ).

    This, that Colin Pillinger is discussing sending more Beagle II probes up to search for signs of life, and that President Bush has announced man will set foot on Mars within my lifetime, can only be considered good news :)

  6. Re:Dark? by netfool · · Score: 4, Informative

    No dude, aliens have much cooler things to do then lurking over silly little cars. Like, getting drunk off Listerine. Aliens LOVE Listerine.

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  7. Surreal by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Funny

    revealing a surreal, dark landscape unlike any ever seen before on Mars

    Or perhaps it landed right on top ot Beagle II, and that they see is the charred scattered remains of the ESA probe.

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    1. Re:Surreal by Cranky_92109 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I know that was meant as a joke, but I can't wait until the day when we have rovers or people up on Mars who can go check out some of these things.
      I'd really like to see what the Viking landers look like after all this time.

      And while I'm at it, I'd just like to say that NASA has done an excellent job not only of putting equipment on Mars, but of keeping us informed here on Earth. Kudos all around.
      This has really reinvigorated my interest in space exploration and I hope that it has had a similar influence on others, especially those kids who are interested in science and technology.

    2. Re:Surreal by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'd really like to see what the Viking landers look like after all this time.

      Probably simply covered with dust and with color paint and cables faded because of UV exposure. It certainly won't corrode with the very low amount of oxygen, and the total absence of water in the atmosphere.

      This has really reinvigorated my interest in space exploration and I hope that it has had a similar influence on others, especially those kids who are interested in science and technology.

      Agreed entirely. However, I'm a little sad that NASA puts all the hype on Mars alone. Sure, exploring Mars is cool and potentially useful for future colonisation programs, but I reckon that planets such as Venus (to understand how the runaway greehouse gas effect happened), Europa (to map whatever's under the ice, possibly an ocean teeming with life) or Io are much more interesting from a science point of view.

      But I guess Mars-Mars-and-Mars-and-only-Mars is better than nothing to get people excited about space and justify spending money on exploration ...

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  8. Not exactly first look @ Meridiani by calmdude · · Score: 5, Informative

    A high-res color picture can be found here

  9. Space Flight Now has a color photo by Jordy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Space flight now has a color photo of the area which has a red tint to it and a decent article about how the surface looks like talcum powder.

    Very interesting stuff. I think we should launch another 6 or 10 of these things all over mars after fixing the problem spirit has.

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    1. Re:Space Flight Now has a color photo by kippy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Very interesting stuff. I think we should launch another 6 or 10 of these things all over mars after fixing the problem spirit has.

      I'd suggest sending 4-6 humans next. As advanced as these probes are humans will be able to do vast amounts more science. Not only will they be able to do in 5 minutes what it takes the probes 2 weeks to do, they will be infinitely better equipped to deal with the unexpected.

      The tech has been around for 30 years. I'm glad humans to Mars is a priority again since dollar for dollar and pound for pound, it's a much better investment.

      Props to the people on this project but I know for a fact that at least a few of the people on the Spirit/Opportunity team agree with me after seeing a presentation they gave at the local planetarium.

  10. Governor Schwartzenegger was there by mikeophile · · Score: 4, Funny

    He was quoted as saying, "Now get your ass to Mars!"

  11. Opportunity Gets A Hole In One by WombatControl · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What's very interesting about the Opportunity landing is that they managed to come down in the middle of a 20-meter diameter crater on the Martian surface. This means that they can study sub-surface details that would normally be beyond the reach of the rover's instruments. Also, the crater isn't very steep, meaning that they should have no problem driving out of it and into the next crater over.

    Meridiani Planum is certainly one of the more interesting parts of Mars we've yet seen. It will be interesting to get a better understanding of what's causing all that interesting surface topography as well as exploring the composition of the surface.

  12. Where are the Watches? by DumbSwede · · Score: 4, Funny
    revealing a surreal, dark landscape

    I don't seeing any limp, melting watches.

    P.S. Arizona You're now considered "surreal"

  13. IIRC... by criordan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    IIRC 'planum' is Latin for 'plain', which Meridiani Planum certainly looks to be from those pictures. Wouldn't it have been more worthwhile to drop this rover near some mountains, or like Spirit, in a crater? Seems like there would be more geologically important sites to investigate in those types of terrain. Also, shouldn't the heat shield make a crater of its own? After it seperated it just slammed into Mars without any kind of parachute. Is it close enough to reach and would it be worth investigated the hole it's impact created?

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  14. c'mon by TitanOfire · · Score: 4, Funny

    we landed there first why didnt the robot come with an american flag planting deally? It could have sent back an image of the flag and been like "One small step for man, one giant leap for robots"

  15. Mars Raw Images by Ghotli · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here is a link to most of the raw pictures beamed back. It's alot of the same thing, but if you just can't get enough of Mars.

    Spirit: http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/spirit. html
    Opportunity: http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/opportu nity.html

    There are currently 132 Raw Images from Opportunity. Spirit has beamed back 1,855 Images.
    Enjoy.

  16. the ground material by rebelcool · · Score: 4, Informative

    its considerably darker and smoother than the usual dusty red rust we're used to seeing and what spirit sent pictures back of. Take a look at the smoothness of it and the peculiar channels and grooves that have been carved into it.

    On mars at least, we've never seen anything like it.

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  17. Light story on the solar cells by AndroidCat · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I noticed this story Mars Solar Photovoltaics Offer Earthly Hope on how the work into making solar panels for space is going to pay off on Earth.

    Point green types who are anti-space at this. After all, it's not like money spent on space was shoveled into rockets and fired to Mars. (No comment on the proposed manned mission.) Think of all the work on light-weight instruments that perform under hostile conditions--Turn them around and monitor the environment on Earth. We'd better learn how other planets work, because this one didn't come with a man page!

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  18. QuickTime VR by Trillan · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm not exactly happy with how this turned out... but be kind, it's my first time ever using the QTVR tools. :)

    Here.

    It's on .mac, so it will probably be overwhelmed soon enough. :( Enjoy.

  19. Monolith Fun by Helmholtz · · Score: 5, Funny

    I want to be watching when the tech turns on the high-pitched squeal sound right when the rover gets close to an outcropping that looks strangely like a large monolith.

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  20. Good News for Water Search by schnarff · · Score: 4, Informative

    I would think that, given that the landing site was selected for its hematite content, and given the extreme smoothness of the landscape (indicative of erosion of some sort, possibly water-related), this is the best chance yet we've had to discover evidence of former large quantities of water on Mars. Let's all keep our fingers crossed -- imagine what that'd mean for our understanding of the universe, and the chances of the NASA budget going up!

    Not to mention, of course, our chances of getting free shrimp. ;-)

  21. Re:Good news? by Stween · · Score: 4, Informative

    I thought that the Hubble was going to come down because part of the requirements that the Shuttle will ever fly again are that it carries enough fuel to get it to the ISS in an emergency. This puts it onto a very different orbit from the Hubble, throwing out any chance of future repair missions to the Hubble. The Hubble will die before there is any replacement suitable for sending up a standard maintenance mission.

  22. Corrupted flash file system? by Dan+East · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Trying to put 2 and 2 together, it sounds like the file system on the flash storage was corrupted by software. That could prevent the system from properly accessing the drive, prompting an endless cycle of reboots.

    Two things about that bothers me.

    Why would the OS / driver allow software to corrupt the filesystem?

    If the system can function without the flash memory ("cripple mode"), then why couldn't the system properly identify (or at least report) the failure, instead of going into an endless loop of reboots?

    Finally, if it were a software problem, shouldn't they be able to play back the exact sequence of commands to a duplicate machine at JPL and reproduce the problem?

    Dan East

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  23. Rover CPU by dekashizl · · Score: 4, Informative

    I wonder what cpu is used on the rovers..

    They use a radiation-hardened RAD6000 32-bit RISC chip made by BAE Systems. See their Press Release here. Bookmark the page in the link below.

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