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Pixar Drops Disney To Find a New Studio Partner

da_anarchist writes "After much speculation, Pixar has announced that it will end its distribution agreement with Disney. This comes after much bitterness at Pixar over the terms of their current deal with Disney, where Disney took a sizable (and some would say unfair) portion of the $2.5 billion in revenue generated by Pixar's films. Pixar is best known as the studio behind the Toy Story series and the more recent movie Finding Nemo."

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  1. Adios, Disney by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I've always felt rather 'ugh' about Pixar's association with Disney and feel this is a good move.

    Disney may have been good, long ago, but after the success of Toy Story I don't think Pixar needed Disney for distribution. Worse, I've felt, is a Disney influence on characters in the films, certain attitudes and stereotypes which are pretty tired and one reason Disney's animated offerings don't impress.

    Sadly, this will also mean any sequels to the Disney-associated films will be done by Disney, which as I've said, employs some pretty tired ideas about character development. Hopefully the well at Pixar is far from dry and fresh new ideas continue to emerge.

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    1. Re:Adios, Disney by furiousgeorge · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "Having the Disney name on it means it automatically becomes a must see for a lot of kids(people)."

      You mean like "Atlantis" or "Emperors New Groove" or "Dinosaur" or "Treasure Planet" (biggest flop of the last 10 years). Lilo & Stitch was a moderate success, and the first real one they've had in 10 years.

      Disney was must-see 50 years ago (their hayday) or 15 years ago (Lion King, Beauty & The Beast etc). Now they are only producing steaming piles of shite and don't have a new idea among them.

      I mean - Cinderella2? PeterPan2 LionKing2 Aladdin2&3.

      For christs sakes.

    2. Re:Adios, Disney by edsel · · Score: 5, Insightful

      One thing that distinguishes Pixar from Disney is the originality of Pixar's story-lines. John Lassiter is at least as creative as ol' Walt was in his hay-day.
      I find it sadly ironic that Disney was one of the studios pushing congress to extend copyright protection ("The Mickey Mouse Protection Act") while nearly all of their films used material plundered from the public domain. Hans Christian Anderson, Bros. Grimm., Dafoe, etc....
      Toy Story and Finding Nemo are among the very few Disney offerings that aren't blatant rip-offs of off-copyright "classics". And Disney didn't produce them.

    3. Re:Adios, Disney by Slarty · · Score: 5, Informative

      I hate David Spade too, and yet to me, New Groove is one of the best things to come out of Disney in a looooooong time. Give it a shot, you might be surprised. It's not traditional Disney though; the characters don't randomly break into song, there's no romance, and way more slapstick humor. I dig it. :-)

      The rest of the stuff they're putting out does seem pretty dumb though. Atlantis was OK. Treasure Planet blew.

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    4. Re:Adios, Disney by fenix+down · · Score: 5, Informative

      Then they just need to say "from the makers of Toy Story(TM) and Finding Nemo(TM) *Toy Story and Finding Nemo are registered trademarks of the Walt Disney Corporation".

      It's the title of a movie, you can't control how people refer to your products. George Lucas has a trademark on everything from Alderaan to wookie but he still can't sue Kevin Smith for having his characters talk about Star Wars.

    5. Re:Adios, Disney by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      They can ride on their past success, actually. No need to ride on Disney. Take the higher grossing films in their ads and you have something like:

      'From the people who brought you Toy Story, Monsters Inc., and Finding Nemo comes a story about [insert heartfelt adjectives] in the [big/distant/unknown] [insert populace reference]. Pixar in conjunction with [insert pushover distro company] brings you [insert title; three words max; prefer two].'

      Throw in the merchandising that was setup nine months before the first press release...and you're good to go!

    6. Re: Adios, Disney by Black+Parrot · · Score: 5, Funny


      > I mean - Cinderella2? PeterPan2 LionKing2 Aladdin2&3.

      If you think those are bad, wait until they start making prequels!

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    7. Re:Adios, Disney by ZorinLynx · · Score: 5, Funny

      Has anyone noticed their latest upcoming cheapquel?

      The Lion King 1 1/2

      Yep! One and a half. 1.5.

      What's next, Sleeping Beauty 1.666666666... ? How about The Little Mermaid 2 + (3pi * x^2)y + 1 ?

      Or maybe they can start numbering them like Linux kernels...

      "Hey, wanna go see Mulan 2.4.24? I heard they fixed some of the animation bugs..."

      But I digress. }:)

      -Z

    8. Re:Adios, Disney by chez69 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yeah isn't it funny how all of the "great" Disney movies were nothing more than remakes of old stories, legends, etc that are in the public domain, and yet they are fighting tooth and nail to prevent their own works from ever going into the public domain?

      But thats a whole nother' thread...

      Anyways, I'm sure one could easily argue that sometimes people benafit from pirating. I'm sure if college kids didn't rampantly pirate MS Office and Windows, Microsoft wouldn't have the market share that it currently does, and these same kids wouldn't be "locked" into Office and other such software as adults.

      Heck, in college I had a cracked version of Warcraft II that I played all the time. I loved that game so much what did I do later on? I bought StarCraft and WarCraft III.

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    9. Re:Adios, Disney by hoggoth · · Score: 5, Funny

      > The Emperor's New Groove
      > It started out following the standard Disney formula but took a different turn somewhere along the road

      You mean they didn't kill off any parents?

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  2. Save Disney by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Help Save Disney from Eisner, who has turned the company from setting trends to following the current trend of the time. He fires the animators who have made the company great simply because it will increase their short term profit. They have completely abandoned the principles Walt Disney used in running the company. If you own Disney shares, support Roy Disney, the surviving member of the Disney family.

    1. Re:Save Disney by gkuz · · Score: 5, Interesting
      the principles Walt Disney used in running the company

      What principle? Exploiting the workers? What's little-known is that in the "golden age" of 1940's and 1950's hand-drawn animation, the overwhelming majority of the work was done by Walt (and his managers) slave-driving minimum-wage immigrants, largely post-WWII European displaced persons, who were lucky just to have a job and a roof. If Walt were alive today, he'd fill the studios with Guatemalans and pay them just as little as legally possible.

    2. Re:Save Disney by tealover · · Score: 5, Informative

      All animated shows you see on television in the U.S. (Simpsons, Futurama, Family Guy, etc.) have been farmed out to S. Korea or other countries for years. Principle animation is done stateside and the rest is "fleshed" out.

      Animation is a tough career to pursue.

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  3. A Round Of Applause Is Needed Methinks? by darth_silliarse · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm a father of two great kids and a part-time Linux geek to boot. Pixar's films have given myself and both of my children hours of enjoyment - the youngest (2 3/4) is in love with Woody and Buzz, found Bruce the shark a frightening (and probably life changing!) image at the cinema, thought Mike and Sully were as cute as teddy bears, and literally danced on the spot when A Bugs Life kicked into life on our DVD player... all I have to say to the guys at Pixar is a huge THANK YOU for making my childrens lives so the much happier for the hours they have enjoyed your films :)

    ...and fsck Disney!

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  4. Been Waitin' Fer This! by forkazoo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Pixar hooked up with Disney in 'ancient times.' When Toy Story was still just an idea, nobody had *ever* made a 3D animated feature. Pixar knew they could do it, but they didn't have the marketing muscle. So, They signed a contract with disney to deliver, IIRC, five features. Disney had a sweet ride, but Pixar was never really very happy with the contract. Watch, for example, Brother Bear. Now, go watch any Pixar film. You will notice that there is a lot more interesting, grown up humor in the Pixar movies. This isn't to say that Pixer will strike out and target adult audiences with violent-anime-esque features from now on, or anything, but Pixar is going to have a lot of room to flex its creative muscles, and basically do whatever it wants. Huzzah! I simply can't wait to see what they come up with over the next five years. It ought to be grand.

    Disney, meanwhile, decided to scrap all 2D animation recently. They did this because, apparently, they think Pixar's success is because they work in 3D. While this may have had a lot to do with the buzz behind TS1, it just ain't the case. The reason Pixar movies make mad money is because they are good movies. Finding Nemo could have been made with a dull pencil on notebook paper, and those guys still would have made something worth seeing!

  5. Re:They won't have a problem by gkuz · · Score: 5, Informative
    something had to prompt Walt's son to leave

    Roy is Walt's nephew. Walt didn't have any sons.

  6. Hooray for Pixar! Disney went one step too far... by smeng · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When Pixar started off, they had no experience with distributing their work and marketing. So that's when they decided to collobarate with Disney. Disney being the giant that it was then, obviously had the better cut of the deal. The deal was to make 6 films. Pixar has done Toy Story, A Bug's Life, Toy Story 2, Monster's Inc., Finding Nemo. That's 5 movies they've done for Disney and by rightly, it would've been 1 more film and the contract would've been over. But why is Pixar making 2 more films for Disney (The Incredibles & Cars)? Well, Disney argued back that Toy Story 2 is a sequel. They twisted Pixar's arm on that, and that's why Pixar isn't doing anymore sequels, they've practically done Toy Story 2 for free! Frankly, I'd say good riddance to Disney! Pixar's build a name for themselves and they are well loved by audiences of all ages. I don't think anyone else could have pulled off a story about fishes in the way Pixar has done. The originality and creativity of Pixar is seemingly boundless. Good job to Pixar for ditching Disney and I wish them all the best!

  7. Re: Emperor's new groove by Black+Parrot · · Score: 5, Funny


    > It had a very good message about the pointlessness of materialism

    So, Disney won't complain if people download it without paying?

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  8. Disney needs the competition by Killswitch1968 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Being the undisputed cartoon motion picture producers have certainly bloated their ego, but done nothing for their movies. Take any 5 Disney movies of the last 10 years and I guarantee they each have the mandatory criteria/characters:

    1. The comedic relief
    2. The love interest
    3. The complacent good natured affable hero
    4. The easily-identifiable bad guy (always in black and smoking something)
    4. The up-beat music song
    5. The slow-dance music song
    6. The Billboard song
    7. The humorous evil sidekicks.

    Put 'em all in a bag, add some celebrity voices, and presto-chango, we've got ourselves another cliche by-the-book Disney flick.
    Now take a Pixar movie, not quite such an easy formula? AND NO STUPID SONGS. I hope they mop the flour with Disney.

    PS. I must say though The Gummi Bears cartoon series was awesome.

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  9. Disney a victim of their own greed by Timbotronic · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Nice one Pixar. Disney have just lost the goose that rendered the golden egg. I wonder how many more times Disney will be undone by their own greed?

    Anyone hear about how Disney dropped out of Peter Pan because they didn't want to donate any money to a London children's hospital? The author of Peter Pan left the copyright to the hospital in his will. When the most recent movie was made, Disney believed it should be exempt from making any payment to the hospital from the sale of spin-off books, board games, soft toys and computer games, which are expected to generate tens of millions of dollars in their own right.

    Read the full story here

    So FUCK YOU Disney! Guess how much 50% of 0 is you bozos!

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