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SCO Adds Copyright Claim to IBM Suit

An anonymous reader writes "News.com.com reports that the SCO Group has significantly widened its Unix and Linux lawsuit against IBM, adding a copyright infringement claim to the already complicated case." There's also another story discussing the copyright claims.

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  1. You'd think... by grasshoppa · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...they'd have to ask Novell's permission before they go sue IBM for Novell's copyrights. ;)

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    1. Re:You'd think... by iminplaya · · Score: 2, Funny

      Who'd buy it from them?

      Ooo...ooo...I will. I realize now that we must do everything to support our current patent/copyright system, so I can cash in on the NEW pet rock I made with a COMPUTER on the INTERNET. :-)

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  2. Old News by Shdwdrgn · · Score: 0, Funny

    Already read this on Groklaw :-)

  3. Just a thought. by DarkHelmet · · Score: 2, Funny
    Okay...

    It's obvious that SCO is not only wanting to raise its stock price, but it's hoping to be bought out by some of the bigger fish out there to possibly placate them.

    My suggestion... How about we do as they say and buy them out just to shut them up.

    I propose that the mods of Slashdot start a fund called the "Buy out SCO so they can shut the fsck up" fund. If we all paypal a couple of dollars into the pot, we can use it in order to help buy out SCO so that we can go on as usual without all this SCO gibberish.

    An added benefit would be to get Slashdot Subscription pages for every dollar we donate to the cause. That will make some of the more geeky of us choose to help. Not like we wouldn't help anyway :).

    Of course, when SCO loses their case, it will become significantly easier to buy the company since their stock will be worth about 1/10th of a cent. At that point, us Slashdot users will be able to make McBride our own personal bitch, and everyone will be happy still.

    Hurry though! Before Microsoft chooses to buy out SCO before we can.

    Just a thought. Continue as normal.

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    1. Re:Just a thought. by Mr2cents · · Score: 1, Funny

      I offer 1 dollar. That's about ten times what it's worth! And I want Mc. Bribe with it, I always wanted to have a personal slave to go and fetch my stinky shoes!

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    2. Re:Just a thought. by TioHoltzman · · Score: 2, Funny
      All they needed to do...and Darl would have done nearly anything

      The mind just boggles...

  4. Another? by paranode · · Score: 5, Funny

    Adding a copyright infringement claim? They wouldn't dare!

  5. Go SCO! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    As a shareholder and a proud parent of a shareholder of SCO Group International, I welcome this step. With millions of Linux systems installed over the world, the value of the company that sells $699 licenses is within billions of dollars.

    Let's make SCO the largest company on the planet and show those boys from Redmond how Windoze is buggy and insecure! Let's sell more SCO-compliant Linux boxes! Go Linux! Go SCO!

    1. Re:Go SCO! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      True!

      It's well know that kernel of the Linux operating system was written by young consultant Darl McBride while in college. He left it on the FTP server only to see some Finnish jerks download it and rename it. This chart undoubtedly proves that SCO has a stable position in the market and that Wall Street rewards young entrepreneurs with the guts to go against big guys like IBM, even though Slashdot has a heard mentality and would support IBM on any issue.

    2. Re:Go SCO! by gebbeth · · Score: 3, Funny
      But I thought Al Gore wrote Linux?

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  6. New Additions to SCO's Legal Team by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Funny
    In light of new developments, SCO has expanded their legal team to include two well known icons:

    Stimpy: "Hey, Ren, if we keep piling things onto the suit, we'll never lose because it'll go on for ever."
    Ren: "Stimpy! you're a genious!"
    Stimpy: "All we have to do is keep finding investors to underwrite the suits, because if SCO runs out of money we'll have to find someone else to represent."
    Ren: "So geet back to woork, you eediot!"

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    1. Re:New Additions to SCO's Legal Team by Pakaran2 · · Score: 5, Funny

      They're Darl and the Brain, they're Darl and the Brain, one is a genius, the other is insane, they're Darl, Darl and the Brain, brain, brain, brain, brain, brain (fade out, and switch to SCO headquarters).

      Darl: So, what are going to do tonight, Brain?
      Brain: The same thing we do every night, Darl, try to sue IBM!
      Darl: But we did that already, and we're losing!
      Brain: Don't worry, Darl, this time we're going to make it. Using our copyrighted Lunix code, I have created an automatic evidence generator!
      ***Brain sits down at odd-looking contraption, and types in "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/lp"
      ***Contraption begins spitting paper.
      Brain: Ok, Darl, now you go take this evidence down to legal, and the judge doesn't understand technology, so he'll be impressed at all the evidence we've gathered.
      Darl: Okey dokey, Brain, here I go!
      ***Darl picks up stack of paper, which is covered with vaguely code-like control characters and things, and carries it out door.

      ***Fade to black
      Big scrolling letters appear: In next week's episode, Darl and the Brain try to cope with the discovery that their claimed Lunix code is actually a screenshot from the Ancient Unix version of Nethack - be sure to tune in!

  7. courts by Dreadlord · · Score: 5, Funny

    looks like it won't take long until we see something like this in courts.

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    1. Re:courts by Samrobb · · Score: 2, Funny

      Actually, given the amount of acrimony being directed at SCO, I think it will end up more like this.

      Heh. Lawbot 0.92 - so you know it has to be an Open Source project.

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  8. Extent of copyrights by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Since M$ owns copyrights to the numbers 0 and 1 (thus covering all binary code), SCO now lays claim to 2 - 127 laying claim to the rest ASCII and all source code.

    Oh no! This message is infringing... good thing I posted AC!

    1. Re:Extent of copyrights by FrancisR · · Score: 2, Funny

      Don't worry, you can avoid that by switching to extended characters 128-255 in the new Microsoft ASCII.NET(tm)

    2. Re:Extent of copyrights by elbarrio · · Score: 2, Funny
      ah, yes, but as we all know, all the other numbers can be created from 1's and 0's, so Microsoft still wins out in the end. Maybe they'll even sue SCO over it.

      By the way, you should really acknowledge your sources.

  9. Re:Bluff bluff bluff by Deitheres · · Score: 5, Funny

    The problem comes when the owner of the wall has coated it with teflon.

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  10. Darls claims IBM kicked his dog by l0ungeb0y · · Score: 5, Funny

    Immediately following the addition of the copyright infringement claims, Darl McBride announced that his dog fluffy, a 3 year old pomeranian had been kicked and severely injured. McBride citing his suspicions of IBM being the culprit planned to add his veterinarian bills as well as an unspecified monetary claim for emotional distress. "Poor Fluffy will never be the same again" Darl was quoted as saying from his Lindon Utah office

  11. wtf by CoyoteGuy · · Score: 3, Funny


    This is not McDonalds or Burger King where you can order a side of something with your lawsuit... Sheesh...

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  12. Not even Doctor Evil... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    dreamed of collecting FIVE BILLION DOLLARS. But, I suppose that SCO has to work overtime now to keep the attention focused on it. What with Martha Stewart and Janet Jackson stealing the spot light.

    Here's a scary thought: What if it was Martha Stewart that had exposed her tits during the Superbowl? Imaging 600 million people all hurling at once.

  13. News Flash by dduardo · · Score: 5, Funny

    As SCO's stock price continues to plumet amid growing speculation that their whole lawsuit lacks merit....

    Wait, this just in...SCO has just upped the lawsuit agianst IBM to 100 trillion dollars...

    ...My God, look at that stock price rise!

    (Back at SCO headquarters)

    Darl: MUAHAHAHAHAHA

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  14. Ahh, the Joseph Goebels method... by i_r_sensitive · · Score: 2, Funny
    Yell a lie loud enough and long enough and it becomes the truth...

    Ye Gods, hasn't this farce gone on long enough?

    But it has this wierd attraction, I see SCO in the posts... ..must resist.. ..overwhelming urge.. ..to.. ..repeat myself...

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  15. Re:[OT] The court hearing today by Tackhead · · Score: 5, Funny
    > And apparently IBM's lawyers wiped the floor with SCO's counsel

    What that IBM lawyer did is an outrage.

    I urge every Slashdotter with an ounce of human decency to donate via paypal to PETCF (People for the Ethical Treatment of Courtroom Floors) today.

    No courtroom floor should ever have to be subjected to that sort of filth.

  16. Re:In related news.com by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 4, Funny

    The new figure is due to the effects of "Darl's Law", which states that on average the damage claims of a lawsuit doubles every 5 months.

  17. They HAD to, you know by Doug+Merritt · · Score: 5, Funny
    They HAD to find some reason to bring the suit up to $5 billion, you know...

    They calculated the projected future losses caused by ill will generated in potential customers, losses from counter-lawsuits, contempt of court fees for frivolous lawsuits and fraud, etc, and the previous $3 billion they were asking for wasn't enough to cover it.

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  18. Re:Supreme Irony in the Making by LowerL · · Score: 3, Funny

    I would like to see IBM parade Darl McBride down the street in his underwear. "You're the little boy that likes sue everyone...wave to the people, blow them kisses."

  19. Darl McEvil by DaGoodBoy · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Maybe if I keep raising the damage award, no one will notice I have no evidence!"
    http://www.awtrey.com/darlmcevil/

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  20. Yet Another Smart Comment! by jimicus · · Score: 3, Funny

    1. Make snide comment about SCO's latest ploy. 2. ??? 3. KARMA!!!

  21. A SCO story by brad-d · · Score: 1, Funny

    As they say, a SCO story a day keeps the dupe post away. Well something like that anyway :-)

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  22. Best part of the hearing... by TrentC · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...is when Mark Heise, counsel for SCO at this hearing, was asked why SCO needed IBM's source code to AIX to determine if there is any infringement occuring, when SCO has certified that Sun and HP are not infringing without having shown any source code.

    Heise replied (not sure of the exact quote, transcript isn't available yet) "As for HP, there is a fundamental difference in that they haven't said they are contributing to Linux". Dave Marriott, counsel for IBM at the hearing, replied that HP has, in fact, contributed to Linux.

    Talk about not having done your homework...

    Jay (=

  23. Re:[OT] The court hearing today by Hentai · · Score: 5, Funny

    Where did they find 300 million lines of Linux code to begin with, much less 300 million infringing lines?

    REUTERS, 3/1/04:

    In a stunning reversal today, SCO (NASDAQ SCOX) has announced that due to a 'minor technical error', it has been looking at the wrong source tree all along.

    "Funny enough, we came across the actual copyrights in the code headers, and discovered it wasn't Linux at all! We were kinda confused ourself when we saw 300 million lines of violating code in a piece of software that only has 30 million lines of code or so, but it all started making since once we realized we were actually looking at a copy of the Windows NT kernel!", Darl McBride told reporters on Tuesday.

    "This represents a complete shift in strategy for us. We have bigger fish to fry, this time. Incidentally, Linus might want to take a look at this too - one of the main reasons we were confused for so long was the amount of Linux code mixed in with ours."

    A representative from IBM told the press, "We completely understand the confusion, and look forward to working together with SCO to remedy the situation."

    Steve Balmer was unavailable for comment, but sources close to the Microsoft (NYSE MSFT) chairman report him as having said, "Oh, FUCK".

    God, please grant me just this one wish before I die... just let this come true.

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  24. SCO.com copyright page does not exist! by VisorGuy · · Score: 4, Funny

    <defense style=chewbaca>
    Hey! Look over here!

    Browse to sco.com and mouse over the Company nav menu at the top and select the bottom entry for "Open Letter on Copyrights" and note that it doesn't exist.

    Therefore you must acquit!!
    </defense>

    ;-P
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  25. How Darl found the infringed code... by weeboo0104 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Darl McBride had to make a profit,
    Dumb dumb dumb dumb dummmmmbb.

    And so an angel appeard to Darl and said, "System V code is buried deep in the Kernel 2.4 tree.
    Dumb dumb dumb dumb dummmmbb.

    Darl McBride translated the code,
    Dumb dumb dumb dumb dummmmbb.

    And Darl thus spoke "I have over a million lines of code that IBM has stolen from me. I will translate the code for our attorneys and they will get our money from IBM"
    Dumb dumb dumb dumb dummmmbb.

    But the attorneys lost the code on the way to the courtroom and asked Darl to tranlate again. Darl became very angry.

    Darl said "God is angry because we have not shown the million lines of code to the world and has taken the code from me. He will not let me translate the code again. To appease God, we must file a copyright infringment against IBM instead!"
    Dumb dumb dumb dumb dummmmb

    IBM grew weary of Darls claims and said "but if you want to show us the code you think we stole, just download it from any number of freely available sources"
    Smart smart smart smart smaaarrrrt

    The fun continues, ad nauseum.

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  26. Re:Bluff bluff bluff by mowo · · Score: 2, Funny
    Doze SCO guys are SOOOO...predictable.

    DO WHILE exec_stock EXISTS
    IF new_stock_price lt old_stock_price
    THEN sco.lawsuit.initiate_new(random_no)
    LOOP

  27. Almost there... by Darth+McBride · · Score: 2, Funny

    A few more billion dollars thrown in for good measure and I will surely have enough money to complete the DeathSCO. Darth McBride (Ps. Plans for the DeathSCO are shown in this topic's icon.

    1. Re:Almost there... by user32.ExitWindowsEx · · Score: 2, Funny

      Huh...that's funny...I can see an unshielded exhaust port from here.

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  28. My favourite article headline.. by wo1verin3 · · Score: 4, Funny
    My favourite article headline so far has to be from SiliconValley.com

    SCO files for temporary restraining order against reality

  29. Through the looking glass by russotto · · Score: 2, Funny

    IBM: Show us the infringing code SCO: We can't. You have the infringed code. You wrote it, you put it into AIX, you then put it into Linux, and we never saw the AIX original. But we own it. And we can prove it. If you'll only show us your code. IBM's lawyer: Raises eyebrow.

  30. Re:Question by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Why are stories about the SCO-IBM lawsuit filed under "Your Rights Online"?

    Because there aren't enough of them to warrant their own area.

    Wait, that can't be right....

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  31. Re:Bluff bluff bluff by Pakaran2 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Basically SCO ends up looking stupid again.

    Can the judge moderate them -1 redundant?

  32. Parent's Nethack reference by weeboo0104 · · Score: 2, Funny

    actually a screenshot from the Ancient Unix version of Nethack - be sure to tune in!

    You are suing IBM in a large courtroom,
    You are likely to be eaten by a Grue.

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  33. Re:Bluff bluff bluff by jcuervo · · Score: 4, Funny
    Can the judge moderate them -1 redundant?
    Their karma already sucks. :-)
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  34. Re:Bluff bluff bluff by Lonath · · Score: 5, Funny

    Nope, the problem is when the "wall" is really one part of one blade of a giant fan and the owner finally decides to turn it on.

  35. What happened to Darl??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Looking at Darl's picture on the SLTrib article, he looks absolutely terrible. Worse than Brando showing up to shoot Apacolypse Now. It's almost as if... (horrors!) he's got Philipkahnosis!

    Yes, this dreaded sickness attacks increasingly useless technology executives. It manifests itself by eating their soul, and as the infection spreads, it releases large amounts of noxious gas, resulting in a foul odor and a "puffy" or "bloated" appearance. Medical scientists believe that frequent contact with attorneys, tape worms, or other parasites may increase the risk of contracting Philipkahnosis.

  36. Re:You are right and you are wrong by Adriax · · Score: 2, Funny

    Truly laughable. Makes you wonder about the enviroment in SCO that cooked this up.

    Darl: Larry, you go mash on that keyboard and create us some "evidence" for the case. Curley, think up some big numbers to tell the press, the bigger the better. Moe, go tell our investors we're gonna make $5 billion off this thing, and we're not gonna stop there.
    3 Stooges: Yes boss!
    Cue zany antics.

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  37. It's our birthday, we'll *gollum* if we wants to by Zenmonkeycat · · Score: 4, Funny
    April 11, 2005: SCO and IBM go to trial
    April 12, 2005: I get a birthday present when the judge tells SCO to go f*** itself with a rusty shovel.

    "We rule in favor of the Defendant, and order SCO to pay an assload of money to everyone affiliated with Linux development in any way, shape or form. Furthermore, SCO sucks, and should, in the Court's opinion, find a suitable location to perform sexual acts upon itself with poorly-maintained garden equipment. And on part 2, subsection B, I find SCO in contempt of court, and therefore must pay damages to the court in the form of either a fully-trained attack monkey, or two nice dress shirts."

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  38. Re:Bluff bluff bluff by Darth+Yoshi · · Score: 3, Funny
    And how would you like to be Darl, looking for your next job when this is all over, with the most prominent entry on your resume being something like "Embarked on frivolous and ill-fated lawsuit against IBM, sent my then-employer into bankruptcy as a result, seeking challenging position at tech company."

    He'll just condense it down to, "Experienced CEO seeking challenging position at tech company."

    Why does it seem the bigger the screwup, the more it counts as experience?

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  39. Re:Bluff bluff bluff by cdrudge · · Score: 2, Funny
    I still think they're going after the angle that JFS, NuMA, et al (basically anything that looks or smells like Unix) are "derivatives" of SysV, and their ownership of Unix means that they control everything related. Thus, IBM shouldn't have contributed to the kernel without first asking SCO's permission. This, I believe, is the heart of their case (they are also still saying there's actual SysV code in Linux, but haven't show squat legally and isn't part of the case as far as I know).
    See...it's the virual nature fo the SysV licenese. Anything that you incorperate in with SysV code automatically becomes SysV code. If you kept the code in a closed source program, this wouldn't be an issue...Oh wait. Shit. Wrong argument for the wrong side.