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Novell Quotes AT&T on Derivative Works

grendelkhan writes "Novell has released their latest correspondance with the litigous bastards ordering them to stop the lawsuit by noon tomorrow, and clarify what the SVRX licensing agreements with AT&T meant regarding derivative works. The letter quotes AT&T from the April '85 issue of $echo as stating that they 'claim no ownership interest in any portion of such a modification or derivative work.' So much for the ladder rung analogy." And reader highwaytohell links to today's CRN article in which Eben Moglen suggests that the SCO/Linux lawsuit cannot move ahead "until SCO resolves its dispute with Novell. And regardless of which company prevails in court, he said, customers won't have to pay any company for a license fee since both claimants--SCO and Novell--have distributed the Linux code under the GPL. Once again, SCO have no comment."

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  1. latest correspondance ??? by srinivas_rc · · Score: 1, Funny

    Is this the new official name ;)

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    1. Re:latest correspondance ??? by ackthpt · · Score: 2, Funny
      Is this the new official name ;)

      No, I think SCO will become "SCO Donut Company" because that's what'll be on their bottom line, a donut.

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      A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
  2. I've got some sad news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Google has apparently noticed, and now neither litigious bastards or just plain bastards comes up with SCO. (This may not yet be true on all Google mirrors.)

  3. I wonder.. by E_elven · · Score: 4, Funny

    ..if there's a spot for a free-lance commenter at SCO. They seem to be awfully quiet nowadays. Although they might just be busy developing new software, or something, too.

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  4. You really blew it by eclectro · · Score: 5, Funny


    The google bomb is not going to work when you misspell litigious bastards.

    Think of how many links you could have generated if you had of spent some time with the dictionary.

    *sigh*

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    1. Re:You really blew it by grendelkhan · · Score: 1, Funny

      DAMMIT! DAMMIT! DAMMIT!

      I need a spellchecker plugin for Firefox.

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    2. Re:You really blew it by emily_the_dragonet · · Score: 2, Funny

      the plug-in actually works. http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=5083 6 This thread helped me get the spell checker to work in firefox. Make sure you have all the right parts downloaded, and in the right folders. ie: not the firebird folders.

    3. Re:You really blew it by Colonel+Cholling · · Score: 5, Funny

      Think of how many links you could have generated if you had of spent some time with the dictionary.

      "Had of"? Would you like some grammar with your dictionary?

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      I am Sartre of the Borg. Existence is futile.
  5. the thing that makes me the most mad by drp · · Score: 5, Funny

    is that freaking e-trade doesn't have SCOX on its list of shortable securities.

    1. Re:the thing that makes me the most mad by starm_ · · Score: 3, Funny

      maybe you should try SCOttrade

  6. And if you listen very carefully... by Howard+Roark · · Score: 5, Funny


    ...you can hear the sound of a coffin being nailed shut!
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    I believe in a Man's right to exist for his own sake.
  7. Everyone together now! by ckedge · · Score: 5, Funny

    and a 1
    and a 2 ...
    "Na na naa naaa..., na na naa naaaa..., heyyy eyy eyy, GOODBYE!!!!!

  8. Re:Up2date by evilmango · · Score: 2, Funny

    I can only wonder what might come along and top these guys.

    SCO actually getting their $699 license fee?

  9. just can't hear the comment by geekd · · Score: 4, Funny

    Once again, SCO have no comment.

    They may well be trying to comment, but it's hard to hear what they are saying, since they have thier heads so far up thier asses....

  10. I wouldn't go kicking any stools around SCO... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    You'll get your shoes all dirty and stinky.

  11. Under SCO's 5 reasons to use SCO instead of Linux by wobedraggled · · Score: 2, Funny

    SCO is the owner of the UNIX(R) Operating System Intellectual Property that dates all the way back to 1969, when the UNIX(R) System was created at Bell Laboratories. Through a series of mergers and acquisitions, SCO has acquired ownership of the copyrights and core technology associated with the UNIX(R) System. The SCO source division will continue to offer traditional UNIX(R) System licenses to preserve, protect, and enhance shareholder value.

    As early as May 2003, SCO warned Linux(R) users that enterprise use of the Linux(R) operating system was in violation of its intellectual property rights in UNIX(R) technology. Certain copyrighted application binary interfaces ("ABI Code") have been copied verbatim from SCO's copyrighted UNIX(R) code base and contributed to Linux(R) for distribution under the General Public License ("GPL") without proper authorization and without copyright attribution. These facts support SCO's position that the use of the Linux(R) operating system in a commercial setting violates our rights under the United States Copyright Act, including the Digital Millennium Copyright Act.

    While some application programming interfaces ("API Code") have been made available over the years through POSIX and other open standards, the UNIX(R) ABI Code has only been made available under copyright restrictions. AT&T made these binary interfaces available in order to support application development to UNIX(R) operating systems and to assist UNIX(R) licensees in the development process. The UNIX(R) ABIs were never authorized for unrestricted use or distribution under the GPL in Linux(R). As the copyright holder, SCO has never granted such permission. Nevertheless, many of the ABIs contained in Linux(R), and improperly distributed under the GPL, are direct copies of our UNIX(R) copyrighted software code.

    Bwhahahahaha!!!

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  12. This has been fixed. by Edward+Teach · · Score: 2, Funny

    http://www.litigiousbastards.com/

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    Setting his threshold to 5, Sparky eliminated most of the trolls on /.

  13. SCO/Linux by mdpye · · Score: 4, Funny

    Darl begins a campaign to have kernel renamed SCO/Linux, after all it is a combination of SCO and Linux contributer IP, no? ;)

    MP

  14. Huh? by unsigned+integer · · Score: 4, Funny
    SCO have no comment

    Who writes this stuff? Yoda?

  15. Re:Huh? by CdnYoda · · Score: 3, Funny

    careful, you should be! Naturally, I am always monitoring the Dark (Darl?) Side... Whether it be the Death Star in Redmond, or the pitiful Tie Fighters in SCO - vigilant, I am!..soon, balance will be restored to the Force, my young padwan =)...patience, patience...

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  16. Benefits of SCO UNIX? by sean1121 · · Score: 5, Funny

    As seen here one of the benefits is "These security features guard against business interruption, denial of service attacks and protect against identity or corporate information theft." (emphasis mine) It makes one wonder why they don't run their web server on it instead of linux?

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  17. Re:Meanwhile, back on the western front... by Bull999999 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maybe IBM will use the licences to create GNU/UNIX to spite RMS.

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  18. Re:They bought the "Linux license" from SCO by dj245 · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...And the number of the Linux Licenses shall be three. Four shall the number of the linux licenses not be, neither shall the number of Linux Licenses be two, without immediately selling/giving away exactly one more license, for a total of three. Five is right out. And when the number three, being the third number of Licenses having been given away, be reached, I shall reach out with my holiest of lawsuits, and the Litigating Bastards shall be smited....

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  19. Am I the only one... by evanbd · · Score: 3, Funny

    who skipped not only the article but the summary, to directly see what the latest round of SCO jokes was?

  20. Advice Mr. McBride. by tetrahedrassface · · Score: 3, Funny

    You would think by now people would learn. There are just some things one should never do.
    1.) Never get involved in an Asian Land War.
    2.) Never *assume the Acid is legit, without knowing who made it.
    3.) Never, ever believe that Republicans or Dems are very different in philosophy or levels of corruption.
    4.) Never ever fuck with Big Blue, unless you like the feeling of your anus getting stretched.
    5.) Never bite the hand that feeds you unless you want to have your teeth kicked in.
    This is just some advice Darl. I hope what life you will have before you after you get out of federal prison is enjoyable. See ya in 20!

  21. Wait...Wait...Wait. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    Are they saying that SCO could actually be LYING about this case?

    No..... not SCO...

  22. Re:litigous bastards? by Pharmboy · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's a form letter. According to the Groklaw-ites, several people who wrote to complain got the identical letter.

    I don't doubt that, ironic that they would assume Slashdot for every letter and send the reference to everyone. And be defensive to everyone.

    As a side note, I tend to NOT make slashdot the http_referrer when I know I'm going to write someone, so I don't think they grepped it from the logs ;) Its kinda like taking the porno tape out of the VCR BEFORE you take it to the shop...

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  23. Get It Right! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny
    1) You misspelled litigious bastards.

    2)The SCO website has moved from http://www.sco.com/ to http://sco.com/

    3) Here's the correct way to do it: litigious bastards

    4) Just in case you missed the last one: litigious bastards

    5) One more time for the dummies: litigious bastards

    6) Wheee this is fun! litigious bastards

    7) Pant!Pant! litigious bastards

    8) Hmm, I seem to have had an orgasm... litigious bastards ...

  24. Penguin Blood Fiasco by buford_tannen · · Score: 4, Funny

    This has been posted before. But it's getting more relevant with every SCO story lately:

    http://www.ubergeek.tv/fiasco/index.php?size=big

    Enjoy!

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    Buford "Mad Dog" Tannen
  25. Re:Huh? by eviltypeguy · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yoda is British? Whoa.

  26. Re:If you're going to try... by petabyte · · Score: 4, Funny

    You know what's going to be worse? When people type it into google and it goes: 'Did you mean "litigous bastard"?'

    Ah well ...

  27. Re:again with the spellchecking... by jakoz · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Impaired" has an "i" in it. And you misspelt it twice. Nice going.

  28. Re:If you're going to try... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Actually, misspelling it probably had more of an effect, due to all the people that posted corrected links.

  29. Re:Meanwhile, back on the western front... by jjoyce · · Score: 3, Funny
    I'm just wondering if they still have anything else up their sleeves?

    Darl is going to enter the courtroom wearing a neck brace.

  30. Re:Meanwhile, back on the western front... by SEE · · Score: 5, Funny

    So multitasking, like talking to your wife and thinking about your mistress

    That's dangerous; human brains don't have memory protection.

  31. Re:Meanwhile, back on the western front... by technos · · Score: 5, Funny

    Darl:
    "Yes, your honor.. I was beaten up by hooligans, no doubt in the employ of IBM, seeking to damage me physically as well as in the press. I was helping an old woman cross the street this morning.... How do I know they were IBM hooligans? Well, they were well dressed, and attacked me without the slightest provocation once they realized who I was."

    IBM Attorney:
    "I submit the videotape from camera 3, on the northwest corner of the 7-11 at 202nd Ave and Mormon Way. Here, at 3:12:08, we see Darl exiting the store with a burrito. At 3:12:30, Here we see Darl speaking to an elderly woman carrying a stuffed penguin. At 3:12:57, we see him attempting to take the woman's stuffed toy. By 3:13:09 we see he's given up on trying to steal the penguin, and instead is reaching for the womans purse. At 3:13:26, we see two well dressed gentlemen attempting to stop a robbery. At 3:14:40 the store clerk joins the two gentlemen in suits and the elderly woman, with a baseball bat. Conclusive proof that this man not only lies in front of the court, he tried to steal a penguin and when he couldn't get away with it, tries to steal this poor woman's purse!"

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  32. The Wookie Offense by MuParadigm · · Score: 4, Funny


    Would we call that "The Wookie Offense"?

  33. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    When I was a student in Edinburgh some years ago we used to play a game when sitting outside the cafe's and bars in the summer, especially around festival time.

    "Spot the American"

    Point were awarded for distance from target when identified and difficulty of identification - so for example wearing tartan trousers was a major points hit as the only people who ever did that were americans.

    Passers-by were fair target from the point at which they came into view until they were near enough you could hear the accent - when points were awarded.

    After a few months we got so good at this we could invariably spot any american at a hundred metres with a % success rate well into the upper 90's. It then took us quite some time to figure why we were so good at it - what was it we were subconciously spotting that flagged up 'AMERICAN'?

    Eventually we figured it, subcutanious fat. Americans invariably seem to be so stuffed full of an unhealthy 'go-large' diet from gradle that there's a sort of smooth unblemished look to them. Something not quite natural. Anyway once you catch on they're quite easy to tell from real people.

    The medics among us tried to develop a theory that this explained their obnoxious behaviour too, something about too much saturated fat in their neurotransmitters changing brain pathways, but the rest of us grew tired of the sport and moved on to the far greater challenge of distinguishing australians from kiwis