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New Battlestar Galactica Series Greenlighted

Trunks writes "A few days ago the Sci Fi Channel officially announced a 13 episode season for Ronald Moore's Battlestar Galactica remake. Looks like they'll be bringing back most of the cast members, including Edward James Olmos and Mary McDonnell. The new series will begin a few days after the miniseries that aired a few months back. Production commences next month in Vancouver, B.C." This had been speculated previously, and the rumors are indeed true.

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  1. In Classic Comic Book Guy Style... by Talez · · Score: 4, Funny

    Lucite hardening ... must end life in classic Lorne Greene pose from "Battlestar Galactica." Best ... death ... ever!

    1. Re:In Classic Comic Book Guy Style... by gid13 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Worst. Post. Ever.

      Needless to say, I was on the internet within minutes registering my disgust around the globe.

  2. Vancouver! by Dumbush · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I live in Vancouver
    where are they shooting the movie?

    side note: A lot of X-Files eps were shot in Simon Fraser University. The central university building is Academic Quadrangle, name after its quadrangular shape. Whenever the X-Files team needs a shot of the pentagon, they just "cheat" their way out by shooting a section of AQ...

    1. Re:Vancouver! by Jetson · · Score: 4, Informative
      I live in Vancouver where are they shooting the movie?

      The 2003 mini-series was shot in Burnaby. Most of the work ws done on sound stages (presumably on Boundary Road) but SFU was also used for one or two scenes. The production office is in North Van.

    2. Re:Vancouver! by Lev_Arris · · Score: 5, Informative

      As far as I know SFU was also used in 'the 6th day', 'Agent Cody Banks' and the 'Stargate SG-1' (the campus is known as 'Tolana' in the series).

      Can't find the reference links right now though (try Google).

    3. Re:Vancouver! by CommieLib · · Score: 5, Funny

      So in Canada, the pentagon only has four sides? You guys always get screwed on the exchange rate.

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  3. Good news by Xoro · · Score: 5, Funny

    I watched that show thinking it would be laughable, but I wound up enjoying it.

    Ballistic missiles over beam weapons. Mmmm.

    But they have to bring back the original theme song.

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    1. Re:Good news by nimblebrain · · Score: 4, Interesting

      There sure were a lot of drumbeats in the pilot episodes, although we caught strains of it during the ceremony.

      I surmise that they may get their own music once the go-ahead is on. It might take a little while to get some decent music unless they prepare well in advance; Stargate hobbled along with snippets of the original movie's music in a not-quite-audio-balanced form for a while until they managed to work in new arrangements more suited to a TV series :)

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  4. Re:British Columbia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Are we really so out of ideas?

    You must not have seen the billboard ads for the Starsky & Hutch movie, starring Ben Stiller and Owen Wilson.

    Is the entertainment industry out of ideas? In a word... YES.

  5. Rant: annoying sexism by MagerValp · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I watched the mini series and I really liked it. But what really bugged me was the stupid plot surrounding the android Number 6. The Cylons have vastly superior technology and a huge army, but to destroy the human race they create a sexy blonde android that seduces our best programmer. Sheesh. Almost made me stop watching there and then.

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    1. Re:Rant: annoying sexism by AresTheImpaler · · Score: 4, Insightful

      what are you talking about? that made the plot much more real..

    2. Re:Rant: annoying sexism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The statement about superior technology is not born out. Since the colonials built the cylons in this version of the series they start out with baseline colonial tech as their starting point. Then following the storyline they move offworld to their own little planet. And then in a VERY short period of time they come back to attack. That leaves very little time to develop, test, build and deploy anything much better then what they started out with.

      To many resources would be devoted to building infrastructure for their war machine, so at best you could state that they have marginally better technology (although we really did not see the "best" colonial toys). And that is not truly enough to defeat prepared defenses on a multi planetary scale.

      Number 6 is a logical infiltration unit. Most people in power are Male and most males can be lead around by their gonads....

    3. Re:Rant: annoying sexism by sundling · · Score: 5, Interesting

      There are two main ways to get a programmer's attention. Sexy blond works and the other is really awesome hardware. Hell, I'm not a dog like he was and I'd probably have fallen for the andriod, which is a whole different dimension. Then would come the difficult choice of living with the android you live or mankind... Baltar could have been a tragic romantic figure if they had tried that.

      The problem with giving the programmer access to really advanced hardware is it's a bit difficult to explain, even if you say it's a prototype. Um, where did I get this 2 billion Ghz machine? Well, um....

    4. Re:Rant: annoying sexism by Merry_B.Buck · · Score: 5, Funny

      to destroy the human race they create a sexy blonde android that seduces our best programmer
      Agreed. It would have been much more realistic if the Cylons had created a middle-aged suit-wearing Business Consultant who outsources Boltar's job to a distant planet.

    5. Re:Rant: annoying sexism by shmigget · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Well, she made a great covert operative. It's actually, in a strange way, realistic, as epsionage agencies regularly resort to sex as a means of obtaining access to sensitive data.

      I'm a programmer. Can a sexy blonde android seduce me? :)

  6. Where are the new ideas? by MMHere · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I enjoyed Galactica as a kid (yeah, I'm old now), and am looking forward to this new series.

    Where, however, is the "buzz" over cool new ideas yet unseen? Many people buzz over remakes of old ideas, but are they done any better?

    Star Wars lumbers on with dialogue-ridden prequels (and yet unseen postquels), Gilligan's Island is probably in production for the silver screen by now, I-Spy has been dubiously remade.

    Firefly was/is a cool idea and at least got an airing. Star Trek is still a cool franchise, but has been pretty commodotized.

    Where's the new, cool stuff.

    I'm not a huge Anime fan, but Cowboy Bepop seems pretty cool to me. If there aren't new ideas, why not bring this one from one format to another?

    Still; Where's the cool, new stuff?

    1. Re:Where are the new ideas? by cubicledrone · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Where's the new, cool stuff.

      From Hollywood? There is no new stuff. Studios cannot green-light something original. It simply will not happen, ever, no matter how "cool" it might be.

      Same story for game companies, publishers, whatever. Original, new material is too "risky." (People who run companies like this who bitch about risk should have invested in bonds).

      Unless it is already $100 million franchise (purchased for $100,000) with worldwide merchandising rights available in at least five major cross-industry categories, it gets shitcanned. It's that simple.

      Anime is about the only category where there is cool new stuff. The entertainment industry of today is exactly like the auto industry of the 1970s, and the Japanese are about to buy the whole thing for about 4c on the dollar. Anime is a diamond mine of originality and creativity. There are anime series that are masterpieces of contemporary thought and literature, as well as fantastically capable demonstrations of state-of-the-art animation. Nothing else can even begin to compete.

      If the anime and manga shelves at Suncoast continue to expand at their current rate, there will be no Hollywood DVDs for sale there in five years.

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    2. Re:Where are the new ideas? by RESPAWN · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Anime is about the only category where there is cool new stuff. The entertainment industry of today is exactly like the auto industry of the 1970s, and the Japanese are about to buy the whole thing for about 4c on the dollar. Anime is a diamond mine of originality and creativity. There are anime series that are masterpieces of contemporary thought and literature, as well as fantastically capable demonstrations of state-of-the-art animation. Nothing else can even begin to compete.

      If the anime and manga shelves at Suncoast continue to expand at their current rate, there will be no Hollywood DVDs for sale there in five years.


      While I will conceed that there is plenty of creativity in anime and even more room for it to expand, I don't feel that it will ever become quite as popular as you are describing. We, as geeks, tend to be more open about "alternative" forms of entertainment. However, Average Joe over there has a hard time overcoming his preconceptions about animated shows -- the preconception that they are for kids.

      I don't know how many times my friends, parents, etc. have asked me why, at my age, I was watching "a cartoon." The Simpsons seems to be an exception, but despite the fact that it's been around for 15 seasons (is that right?) I still know some older people who don't want to watch it because "it's a cartoon."

      Anime won't really become mainstream over here until the average American is able to look at it as more than just a cartoon for kids.

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  7. So its started already??? by icebike · · Score: 4, Funny

    "The new series will begin a few days after the miniseries that aired a few months back."

    That would either qualify this as OLD news, or
    one of the most tortured sentences I've seen in a while....

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  8. Re:British Columbia by Jetson · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Somehow I'm not surprised that such a harebrained idea as bringing back this television travesty came from BC. I can easily imagine the haze-filled board room and some junior exec taking a big toke and proclaiming how cool it would be if Battlestar Galactica came back.

    More likely, it was some senior exec in Hollyweird deciding that he didn't have to spend millions of extra dollars shooting in the USA just because Ahhhnold was now The Governator. The fact that B.C. has the best marijuana in the world and is relatively unencumbered by the lunacy of the U.S. war on drugs probably had nothing to do with it...

    Besides, when Canadian producers want to mine the 80's for remake potential we end up with less grass and more Degrassi...

    Are we really so out of ideas?

    You're just noticing that now?

  9. Re: Will there be nudity? by Black+Parrot · · Score: 3, Insightful


    > Can Sci-Fi show nudity? I know they can in the UK, but what about the more repressive US channel?

    In the USA, Congress is more worried about a glimpse of a tit than they are about ongoing wars in the Near East.

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  10. OT: Any news when the Sci-fi series released. by will_die · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Has anyone seen any info on when the Sci-fi channel will be releasing thier mini-series on DVD?

  11. Waiting with baited breath.... by BobSutan · · Score: 5, Informative

    To be honest I had serious reservations about them bringing this one back. However, once I actually sat down and watched it I was blown away. Personally I think they hit a homerun with the pilot and can't wait to watch the new series. They did so many thing right IMO: the Sci-Fi wasn't so much "Fi" as I thought they'd throw at a show of this type. For example: Ballistic weapons, somewhat realistic space flight (thrusters), and the cinematic zooms all help add some realism to the space scenes.

    On top of all that they nailed the human side of the story. Family ties, personal relationships, etc all played a huge role in the pilot (perhaps even more so than in the original series). For me, this is the element that makes the show so good.

    My only fear is that they change the characters or take away from the dynamics of what they were building.

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  12. But it sucks by 91degrees · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Lets see - Every single character is a total stereotypes. We have a tough as nails, always in trouble ace pilot, a father and son who don't talk anymore, an acerbic commander who doesn't take stick from anyone, and a cowardly scientist who refuses to take responsibility for his actions (Did they get mixed up and think it was a Lost in Space revival?).

    Then they take out the few bits that were remotely imaginative from the original series. Rather than having an ancient society with their own political structure, they have a carbon copy of the US political system. All the ancient Egyptian styling has been axed, and the Galactica is simply way too new. Galactica was 500 years old in the original series. It made it seem like it was worth caring about.

    Finally, we have the actual script. It's not enough just to throw in random emotive scenes. Yes, they have to leave some people behind. Yes, it's a tragedy. But come-on; three times!?. Talk about rubbing it in. And even though we're meant to believe that it's such a disaster, people make these life or death decisions with hardly a flicker of anxiety.

    1. Re:But it sucks by iamplasma · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Yes, they have to leave some people behind. Yes, it's a tragedy. But come-on; three times!?. Talk about rubbing it in. And even though we're meant to believe that it's such a disaster, people make these life or death decisions with hardly a flicker of anxiety.

      Umm... not really, heck, it was a key decision near the start of the second part of the miniseries, where the president and apollo are arguing over if they should run right away, or wait to transfer civlians off non-jump capable ships. Then you have the abandoned people pleading as the president runs, as the cylons arrive to kill them all.

      Sure, it wasn't some grand soap-opera decision which took hours to make, but it was given appropriate time and attention under the circumstances.

    2. Re:But it sucks by blincoln · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I've got to agree.

      I watched the miniseries when it came out and thought it was okay, if a bit cliched.

      Then I bought the original series DVD set, and watched the whole thing. It does have a noticeable fromage factor in places (e.g. Muffit, reusing a lot of the space footage in *every* episode, the robots in "Greetings from Earth"), but it's obvious to me that the creators really cared about telling an interesting story of their own.

      There was so much about the original that had its own feel - the design of the costumes, the sets, the ships, the Cylons - and in the remake they've all been replaced by generic sci-fi designs.

      90% or more of the elements in the remake could have been designed for any space action film - Wing Commander in particular comes to mind. I was *especially* disappointed with the new Cylons. It's obvious that they only make an appearance for a few seconds because the CG is so poorly animated. I also thought the new Raiders with the scanning eye on the front were incredibly cheesy.

      That having been said, there were a few things I thought were clever - particularly one of the plot twists near the end that I will not explain to avoid spoiling anyone.

      I also liked that "Caprica" was actually the university in Canada that I went to (BG is higher class than The Sixth Day or The Fly II, both of which also filmed there).

      Basically I feel like the creators of the new series started changing things not because it was a good idea, but just for the sake of doing it, Rick Berman-style.

      I guess a new series could turn out well, but I get the impression that it won't. Sci-fi should have let Richard Hatch do his follow-up idea instead of "reimagining" the story.

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    3. Re:But it sucks by hoggoth · · Score: 3, Funny

      > Sci-fi should have let Richard Hatch do his follow-up idea

      No, I dont think THAT would be a good idea...

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  13. Re:Where? It's the bandwidth! by SgtSnorkel · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I think the real driver behind all the remakes is available bandwidth. The number of channels available on a modern direct-broadcast satellite system is astounding! The programmers (in the TV sense of the word) just can't generate enough content or come up with enough new ideas.

    There's a glut of video bnadwidth, viewers get spread thin, advertising dollars per channel plummets -- thus we have remakes, re-runs, and 'reality' shows ad nauseum.

    (BTW: I thought the miniseries was pretty good! Especially compared to the campy original.)

  14. Sci-Fi Channel by Matrix2110 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Excellent!

    The Sci-Fi Channel had the guts to air Lexx as well as a host of other ventures. I have caught my co-workers on many a time watching Outer Limits or Twilight Zone.

    Has much less commercials than TNT. (Anybody been through the painfull IGEA pore sucker commercial?)

    I wish these guys well, and I think they are on course so far.

  15. I liked the cylons by robnauta · · Score: 3, Interesting

    That's good news. I liked the cylons, they looked more realistic than other robots of that era. Their 'by your command' was impressive. At least they used some kind of voice encoder device to make it sound real, as opposed to actors trying to talk metallic in other series.

  16. not THAT is Sci-Fi by __aahlyu4518 · · Score: 5, Funny

    The new series will begin a few days after the miniseries that aired a few months back

    Now THAT is Sci-Fi... Giving the green light NOW and have it begin a few months back...

  17. Score one for bittorrent... by Shivetya · · Score: 3, Interesting

    When I first watched this, taped to my VCR, I was not impressed. However I later downloaded a bittorrent of it, captured from satellite or similar, and after watching it a few times where I could back up and such I found I enjoyed many aspects of it.

    Watching it without the commercials really improved it. Anyone else find otherwise decent programs on Sci-Fi ruined by the deluge of commercials?

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  18. Re:British Columbia by orthogonal · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Being in the Pacific Northwest, I notice alot of the filming that goes on here. Unfortunatly they have moved to Vancover. From my understanding it's because they will let you get away with alot of shit (see Jackie Chan). I don't know this for a fact, but that's the rumor.

    By filming in Canada, the production companies don't have to pay union rates to the hordes of support personal required to make the films. This out sourcing significantly brings down costs, while still providing a location with white, English-speaking extras and close proximity to the US, to accommodate "name" US actors.

    The X-Files, for example, was mostly filmed in Canada, with US filming limited to some "location" shots of recognizable landmarks.

  19. "New Ideas" die in boardrooms by tekrat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The problem is that totally unimaginative people are holding the purse-strings. They don't want to gamble on something they haven't seen before. They want to sell something they know has already sold once before.

    That's why you don't get big budget "new" movies, you get sequel after sequel of The Matrix 6, Charlies Angles 3, Scooby Doo 2, etc., and the crap just gets churned out, but they know they can market it because the auideince for that crap is pre-existing.

    Lord of the Rings was such a fluke because there's no way that should have gotten done, or done as well as it was, via the Hollywood system. Because Hollywood crushes creativity, it eschews original thought, and it despises anything it can't reference as something else.

    When you're committing millions of dollars before even a frame of film is shot, the boardroom people want to be comfortable about it by knowing it's really something they can already relate to. That's why Gene Roddenbury had to "sell" Star Trek as "Wagon Train to the Stars", and couch it in relation to a Western, which was the TV staple of the 60's.

    Unless you can make your "new idea" seem like *exactly* something everyone has seen before, you'll never get funding for your production. You've got a better chance of winning the lottery and self-producing it.

    And that, my friend, is why there's only crap on TV and Movies. Because Hollywood hates "new ideas".

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    1. Re:"New Ideas" die in boardrooms by bakes · · Score: 3, Interesting

      This is spot on. It reminds me of a quote from Ben Elton in his book 'This Other Eden' where he describes Hollywood as "The place where ideas went to die".

      Television is slightly better, but only because some production companies are still willing to gamble the relatively small amounts it takes to make a pilot or even a one-off show.

      Sometimes the sequels can be done very well, for example I personally consider Rocky II to be the best of that series, although after that they should have stopped. Others, although not as good as the first, can still be well written and entertaining (Toy Story 2 was pretty good). Others they should have stopped after the first movie instead of turning the story into a joke. (I keep telling myself that "there is no sequel")

      But some more originality on the big screen would be nice.

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    2. Re:"New Ideas" die in boardrooms by Elbelow · · Score: 4, Informative

      ... The Matrix 6, Charlies Angles 3, Scooby Doo 2, ...

      ... Ocean's Twelve!

    3. Re:"New Ideas" die in boardrooms by Illserve · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There was a day when hollywood was populated by people's who's job was to make good movies, not money. So I'll villify them all day long because they're not there to do art, they're there because they smell a fast way to a cozy lifestyle.

    4. Re:"New Ideas" die in boardrooms by jmoriarty · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There was a day when hollywood was populated by people's who's job was to make good movies, not money. So I'll villify them all day long because they're not there to do art, they're there because they smell a fast way to a cozy lifestyle.

      Okay, I'll take the bait. When was this ever the case? Please show me the specific years and movies around which making "good movies" rather than money was the norm and not the exception?

      Look at the problems that surrounded getting Citizen Kane, Casablanca, or even Star Wars made and I think you might find that good movies have always emerged from a fortunate confluence of events rather than an altrusitic streak in the studios.

      But I'm not a movie historian, so prove me wrong.

  20. Why are you convinced it was superior? (spoiler) by starX · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Remember, the Cylons won because the humans basically couldn't shoot back. Hell yeah you have superior power when you've sent in a spy to obtain access to the defense mainframe and figure out how to turn off all of your enemy's defensive/offensive capabilities.

  21. I may be wrong but... by It's+the+tripnaut! · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...shouldn't it be "New Battlestar Galactica Series Greenlit?"

  22. Confessions of a Science Fiction Junkie by invid · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'll admit it, I watched the original series back in the 80s, and I liked it. It's no excuse that I was a kid at the time, I should have known better. It was crap and I liked it. I also liked Buck Rogers, which was an even bigger load of crap. I was so starved for science fiction entertainment I religiously watched what the tv execs threw out at us.

    So I watched this latest version of Battlestar Galactica, and you know what? I liked it. I really should know better...

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  23. Re:They chose this over Farscape? by NormAtHome · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Actually what is truly disgusting is that they replaced Farscape with "Treamors The Series", that is totally unfathomable.

    As I've said before, Yes the fourth season was bad but in my book they really pulled it out the last six episodes which were fabulous.. my personal favorite was "We're So Screwed: LaBomba"

    As so many have lamented, the people running the Sci Fi channel know nothing about science fiction.

  24. Re: Will there be nudity? by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Near East
    Is that, like, Long Island?

    But seriously... Congress is concerned over the Jackson incident because laws they passed establishing guidelines for the content using the airwaves owned by the public were ignored. It's correct for them to be concerned. Since it is likely that the incident was pre-meditated by at least one MTV producer and Jackson herself to create a pocket-lining "buzz," it's correct for Congress to be more than a little bit annoyed as well.

    Sci-Fi Channel is on cable. The restrictions relating to the public airwaves do not apply to them. However, they are smart enough to realize that the demographic for a Battlestar Galactica revival is not the same as "Queer as Folk" or "The Sopranos" and will most certainly produce it no harder than a PG. The perception is that the "adults" won't be watching it and that the "kids" won't be allowed to watch it if it contained nudity.

  25. Why is this a problem? by HarveyBirdman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There's nothing stupid about it at all. It's called a covert operation. It was done during the Cold War all the time. Someone is seduced into giving away the crown jewels. Yes, people in real life have done that.

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