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HMS Beagle (Possibly) Found
With the Beagle 2 lander lost on Mars, good Beagle-related news has been lacking, until now. British paper The Observer is reporting that the original HMS Beagle, the ship Darwin travelled on during his famous voyage, may have been found. Marine archeologists believe they have found the ship, which has been resting at the bottom of some Essex marshes for the last century.
It (the HMS Beagle) used to have a huge bank of guns, but they were gutted and replaced with diagnostic equipment.
Make science, not war!
you state that no one has ever proved darwinism wrong and that most accounts of research into the subject support it. also that no one can prove the bible right.
let me add:
no one has ever proved the bible wrong and most accounts of research into the subject support it. also, no one has ever proved darwinism right.
I agree.
I am a conservative Christian (please hold your insults), and I have found the theory of evolution lacking for scientific reasons. It is a fascinating idea, but far from proven.
I've often marveled at the amount of faith it requires to accept evolution and the purely secular theory of the origin of everything. The idea that a superdense particle passed into being from nothingness for no reason and with no cause is pretty hard to swallow. Much moreso than God purposefully creating.
Slashdot Syndrome: the sudden, extreme urge to correct someone in order to validate one's self.
/feeding troll/
...anyway, put you faith aside for few moments and think, you'll be amazed. /end troll feeding/
funny, thought I'd never see "christian science" and "thinking" in the same post.
If evolution is true, how did all non flying animals get to Australia? How is it that we have *Millions* of species of insects? How did Noah use pitch to seal the ark when pitch wasn't invented 'till hundreds of years later? Were dinosaurs on the ark? How do we have billions of people on the Earth now when we started with only six (on the ark) about six thousand years ago(according to the Bible (do the math, it doesn't work AND the gene pool would be waaay to small to keep a large population viable. Incest, anyone?) Evolution is both Fact and Theory...creationism is neither.
you should stick with the facts, but that would destroy your beliefs. Morality is doing what is right no matter what you are told. Religion is doing what you are told no matter what is right.
"Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law." --Thomas Jefferson, Feb 10, 1814
If you want to live in a country run by religion, MOVE TO IRAN!
There once was a time when everyone feared God and the Church reigned supreme... it was called the Dark Ages.
"If we assume that man actually does resemble God, then we are forced into the impossible theory that God is a coward, an idiot and a bounder." --H.L. Mencken
"We dance around in a ring and suppose, while the secret sits in the middle and knows." --Robert Frost
If money is the root of all evil, why do churches want it so badly?
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." --Philip K. Dick
"I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires." --Susan B. Anthony
"During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution." --James Madison
"If Christians want us to believe in a Redeemer, let them act redeemed." --Voltaire
"Gods are fragile things; they may be killed by a whiff of science or a dose of common sense." --Chapman Cohen
"If 50 million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing" --Anatole France
"God - who is said to have created everything from nothing and to have done so with no help from anyone is now completely helpless to do anything at all without the assistance of an army of clergymen and the charity of a flock of faithful followers." --Rev. Donald Morgan
Theists think all gods but theirs are false. Atheists simply don't make an exception for the last one.
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it with religious conviction." --Blaise Pascal
No sex education + prayer in schools = pray you're not pregnant
"That's the problem with religion: you beat your way past the clerics, fight your way through the demons, stand before the holy of holies, and when you rip away the veil, there's nothing there but a mirror." --Owen Rowley
I think you've misread Genesis.
Genesis I (v.11-24) states quite clearly that God created plants on the land on the third day, didn't get round to doing the Sun until the fourth day, created the swimming and flying creatures on the fifth and left the land animals (including Man) until the sixth.
Which is nothing like the order science has determined. So you have to say that Genesis managed neither the precise order nor the general themes correctly.
Of course that's just one of the Creation stories in Genesis. There is another in Genesis 2 which places Man as the first living thing followed by plants, animals and finally Woman.
At least one of the stories has to be wrong.
Best wishes,
Mike.
I've thought of all three of those possibilities. To be honest, it doesn't bother me that I still believe any and all of them. (sic)
;)
And besides; that's my kind of humor.
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(I know you said you didn't want to start a theological debate, but...)
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Few Christians have ever believed that the earth is flat. What they told us all in school about Christopher Columbus sailing around the world to prove it was round is a lie. Just do a little googling.
Second, the issue of heliocentricity was unfortunately blown all out of proportion. A great many educated people in the days of Copernicus and Galileo did believe that the earth was the center of the universe, but not because they were Christians. Certain Greek philosophies which were in vogue since the days of the scholastics held that the sun, stars, etc, were very pure and absolute, and that as you descended, things became more and more corrupt. The earth is at the center of the universe because it is a corrupt place. This view led to the idea (found nowhere in scripture) that hell is in the center of the earth (see Dante). The point is, heliocentricity was not an idea that people rejected because they were Christians (a great many Christians accepted it).
The persecution of Galileo (which, interestingly and tellingly, Copernicus never faced) so frequently cast as a war between theology and science, or religion and reason (whatever you prefer) was actually mostly political. A Roman Church beleaguered by the Reformation and desirous of reasserting its authority put Galileo on trial not primarily because of what he wrote (a great many Roman officials, including the pope himself, if memory serves, believed in the heliocentric model) but basically because he had the audacity not to keep his trap shut when told to. Obviously the Church doesn't come out smelling like a rose on this one, but my point is, there never really was a great "Science verses Christianity" debate about the position of the earth in the cosmos. It is an invention of later writers who were trying to prop up a scientific, rational basis for modern life by berating an imagined, monolithic old order.
I'm just about done.
Many Christians these days oppose evolution because (unlike a flat earth at the center of the universe) they see it as being distinctly denied by a plain reading of the relevant scriptures. This is actually a fact commonly agreed upon (if only implicitly) because other Christians who don't see the difficulty with evolution are frequently saying things like, "Don't take that so literally!" and appealing to certain exegetical nuances that seem to indicate that Genesis 1 and 2 are more like a literary framework than a natural history, or that what is being described are very long periods of time.
Why is it that the proponents of "one nation under God" are so eager to get rid of "liberty and justice for all"?
When I die, this is how I want to be memorialized.
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People in our time lose sight of how radical a change Darwinism brought to the philisophical outlook of man. It was one of the great sea changes in modern thought.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwinism
To quote my Wise and Eloquent Friend:
"[it depends on whether you trust the scientists or the priests] and I would rather trust the scientists than the priests. They actually can work miracles, not just point to alleged past ones or promise future ones.
"Are we still living in caves and wearing tin pans for protection? You can have fire by lighting a match, light by flipping a switch. You will never have to worry about dying from pneumonia and the plague, and if you catch those you'll go to a hospital and get some antibiotics and get better. Your mother did not have a 30% chance of dying in childbirth. You did not have a 70% of dying by the age of three. Your parents will live into their eighties and you will live into your nineties. This weekend you will travel a distance which once took months of perilous journey in a matter of hours, and you will do it by FLYING THROUGH THE AIR. These are all MIRACLES. Science has accomplished in 150 years what religion cannot in thousands of years. That is because Science recognizes its mistakes and learns from them instead of adapting a head in the sand mentality to them."
www.evilbible.com rocks. Here is a sampling of the sort of stuff that man is able to understand:
They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, "Go and hide in the vineyards. When the women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be your wife!
or
he LORD's people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.
Long winded explanations of quantum mechanics wouldn't be as good at convincing people you are the one true rocking God!
I know this is veering even further off topic, but...
The behavior you refer to is attributed by biblical scholars to the polytheistic period of Judaism, where Yahweh Sabaoth was the god of war (think the plagues of Egypt and the exodus). This deity evolved into the one and only God, Yahweh, in post-Babylonian monotheism.
You should read Karen Armstrong's excellent book, A History of God, for a complete historical account.