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What's The Fastest Growing Linux Distro?

darthcamaro writes "What's the fastest growing Linux distro? This really solid article on InternetNews.com contains interviews with the Debian Project leader, the founder of Mandrake, SuSe, Red Hat and TurboLinux to get their take on who's the biggest and who's the baddest on the distro block. Also includes some interesting insight into the next round of releases."

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  1. From what I gather... by Leffe · · Score: 3, Informative

    It seems to be Gentoo to me, it's always suggested when someone asks for a new distro(I won't say where though as I'm afraid of being laughed upon ;)), and everyone seem to be using it. I'm happy with Slackware and FreeBSD. I really should check our Gentoo, it might just work on my crappy 5 year old Wintel machine...

    And BSD is not dying!!

    1. Re:From what I gather... by MikeCapone · · Score: 5, Informative

      I really should check our Gentoo, it might just work on my crappy 5 year old Wintel machine...

      I wouldn't recommend it unless you don't want to actually work on that box.

      I mean, sure you could save on the compile times (good luck compiling KDE/gnome, Mozilla and Open Office on a "crappy 5 year old Wintel machine") by getting binaries, but then, why not just use Slackware or Debian...

    2. Re:From what I gather... by damiam · · Score: 5, Informative

      I realize you're trolling/joking, but Debian supports new hardware just fine. I installed it on my dual Athlon 2200+ w/ SB Audigy and Radeon 9700PRO a year ago, and it worked fine and still does. Myths about Debian's hardware support mostly seem to come from its lack of an autodetecting installer, although Knoppix and debian-installer are fixing that.

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    3. Re:From what I gather... by cdefghijklmnop · · Score: 3, Informative

      What about if one uses ./configure && make && sudo /usr/sbin/checkinstall --install=yes ?

    4. Re:From what I gather... by whoever57 · · Score: 4, Informative
      I wouldn't recommend it unless you don't want to actually work on that box.

      While not very usable on a single 5 year old box, Gentoo can be used on such hardware. I manage a small network of systems that run Gentoo. Some are 5 years old. One of the systems is used to compile and build binary packages. All the other machines install or upgrade from these binary packages. Some of the other machines also participate in the compilation process using distcc.

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    5. Re:From what I gather... by Lispy · · Score: 4, Informative

      Sorry, but when exactly did Slackware loose "The distribution with attitude" feeling? We are havin quite some fun over at dropline, thank you! ;-)

      Lispy

    6. Re:From what I gather... by pantherace · · Score: 4, Informative
      I use gentoo on a p2-300 (ca 1997-8) & frankly it makes it HIGHLY usable.

      Most of the usablity improvements come from KDE 3.2 & linux 2.6 (though it was fast enough with 3.1.2 & 2.4) In fact, it is much more responsive than Windows (any version with a bit of security (not 9x, ME)), Fedora Core 1 (fresh install on a 1GHz P3-celeron, 256MB RAM & 10K rpm SCSI drive) Now admittedly the fedora installed very quickly. The recent updating included building most of the system over again (for about 6months only security related packages had been updated) which took about a week, but the system was still often usable while it was compiling (slow, but usable).

      Some people have argued that in a particular library/program compiling for -march= with gcc (as opposed to most of the binary distros -mcpu=) only leads to a 2-3% improvement in speed per program/libary. If true (and only that much), that adds up, X is 3% faster, Qt is 3% faster, kdelibs is 3% faster, konqueror is 3% faster= 112.6% faster, which is better than the change between any of the Pentium 4 Extremely expensive edition, and Athlon 64 (of which I have not seen ONE mainstream benchmark site running in 64-bit mode...Windows (beta) or Linux) Many over clockers don't get that much performance increase stablily.

      If you want to there is the GRP (Gentoo Reference Platform) which will install with binaries, so you don't have to compile everything.

  2. Re:The fastest shrinking distro by millahtime · · Score: 3, Informative

    Red Hat isn't shrinking. It's not growing at the same rate but it's still growing. It's overall market dominace is shrinking but it's still growing. It's no longer the M$ of linux.

  3. Most popular distroes... by rqqrtnb · · Score: 4, Informative

    You could get a feel for the number from

    http://counter.li.org/reports/machines.php

  4. Re:Definitely... by El · · Score: 5, Informative

    Selling 1 license last week and 2 licenses this week would be a 100% increase. Selling 0 licenses last week and 1 license this week is an infinite percentage increase. I hope you pay somebody else to compute your taxes...

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  5. Re:Stats by Doesn't_Comment_Code · · Score: 4, Informative

    According to DistroWatch.com, ranked by hits per day on their website:

    Mandrake 991
    Red Hat 696
    Knoppix 643
    Debian 567
    Fedora 518
    Gentoo 477
    SUSE 460
    Slackware 423

    and the list goes on and on

    Of course this is very limited sample and probably doesn't include any enterprise use.

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  6. WBL by einer · · Score: 3, Informative

    White Box Linux. All of the functionality, security and stability of RHE3 without any expense.

    It also makes a snappy desktop distro with a 2.6 kernel. There are even apt-repositories if you're an apt-rpm type admin.

    It's not a desktop distro, on the other hand, I look forward to not having to crossing my fingers and praying that an upgrade works for another five years or so.

  7. Re:The fastest shrinking distro by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The article says it has had the slowest growth rate, not that it is shrinking.

    "RedHat has a far greater number of installations at 1.5 million, but a slower growth rate in the six-month span at 17.8 percent; "

    It is still growing, just not as fast as the other distros.

  8. Basic Flaw by whoever57 · · Score: 4, Informative

    The article ranks only Web servers. So it's hardly going to provide useful numbers on desktops.

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  9. Re:The fastest shrinking distro by An+Anonymous+Hero · · Score: 4, Informative
    The article says it has had the slowest growth rate, not that it is shrinking.

    The article says: "RedHat has a far greater number of sites but a slower growth rate, and actually fell this month"

  10. It's Mandrake - No Doubt by terrencefw · · Score: 4, Informative

    I sell distros through my website, fastdiscs.com. I sell more copies of Mandrake GPL than all the other distros put together. It's quite phenomenal.

    Distro of the week though? MEPIS. Try it, it's fantastic!

    James

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  11. Re:Debian discovers the wheel? by TKinias · · Score: 4, Informative

    scripsit SoTuA:

    Well, since KDE 3.2 is in woody already, I don't see how they could not include it in the official release of sarge as "stable".

    Actually it's not:

    apt-cache policy kdebase
    kdebase:
    Installed: (none)
    Candidate: 4:3.1.3-1
    Version Table:
    4:3.1.5-2 0
    90 http://ftp.de.debian.org unstable/main Packages
    4:3.1.3-1 0
    500 http://ftp.de.debian.org testing/main Packages
    4:2.2.2-14.7 0
    500 http://ftp.de.debian.org stable/main Packages
    500 http://security.debian.org stable/updates/main Packages

    Note that Woody==Stable -- that's 2.2.2-14.7. Sarge (Testing) currently has 3.1.3-1, and Sid (Unstable) has 3.1.5-2.

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  12. Re:depends on what demographic by Fouquet · · Score: 3, Informative

    Certainly an important point! Many people in the US Astronomy community used RedHat in the past (those running linux that is... Solaris is still popular). However, people are being turned off by RedHat's policy change. We actually use Linux for productivity in a desktop environment, and need it to work without a lot of system admin. That essentially means:

    1) A distribution that installs 'out of the box' (ftp,nfs,etc) without a lot of tinkering and screwing around getting hardware setup.

    2) A distribution that provides bug patches and updates in a easy to use interface.

    3) Something that can easily be figured out from a user perspective and is not overly complicated. Many faculty are not the most savey of computer users. I know one who got a new laptop with Windows and couldn't figure it out. He had though been (and still is) using VMS since its beginning and understands that fine.

    I recently installed SuSE on my laptop and am quite pleased with it. I'll probably switch my other RedHat machines over to Suse in the near future.

    Just my 2-cents from a community that uses linux daily.

  13. Re:The fastest shrinking distro by Nihynjahs · · Score: 4, Informative

    Maybe for personal use, but fedora basically is redhat without th support is it not? My cousin just went and bought a magazine about linux cause he wanted to try it out (he doesnt get cable where he lives only 56k) but i think that stuff thats easy for people to obtain will help it grow, my cousin probably doesn even know how to burn a iso.. if peopel want to experince/ try out linux cause the realized MS sucks paying 80 dollars for suse or redhat at bestbuy may become a trend..

  14. Re:Better set a minimum size... by tverbeek · · Score: 3, Informative

    There always has to be at least one person having a dig at Hurd ;) Funny... except that by definition, GNU/HURD is not a Linux distro.

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  15. Re:Soldi article? Really? So where was Slackware t by Alan+Hicks · · Score: 3, Informative
    Sad thing is, that slackware users are really a small number. Most have went to debian or gentoo.

    Where do you get off saying that? Personally I don't know a whole lot of former Slackware users who aren't of the "must try the new version of this or that distro as soon as it comes out" group. Yes, there are a lot of former Slackware users who now use Gentoo or Debian.

    Here's the shocker. I'll bet you they still use Slackware on some things.

    Here's another shocker. I know a lot of Slackware users who are former Debian or Gentoo users.

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  16. Re:Well yes, that kind of happens by The+Analog+Kid · · Score: 5, Informative

    However the parent was talking about how Red Hat cut off half there customer because they stop producing a free downloadable and boxed set version of their operating system.(Which really was just draining money doing so, because the number buying it didn't outweigh the money involved in making it). Once they cut the dead weight, Red Hat is now actually turning a profit, and their stock has risen over 100% since. (Though that could just be do to them filing a lawsuit against SCO).

  17. Xandros, safe? Not according to this by da'covale · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/35588.html But the real security problem in Xandros is precisely the Windows affliction: too many networking services are enabled by default.

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  18. Re:What I don't understand about Debian by nestler · · Score: 4, Informative
    Debian has to support around a dozen different platforms. The excellent hardware detection in Knoppix is unfortunately x86 specific, so its not a drop-in replacement for what they need to have.

    The Debian people are rewriting their installer right now for the upcoming release. One of the big goals is improved auto-detection of hardware. I'm not sure if they are pulling things from Knoppix, but hopefully so for the x86 platform.