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What's The Fastest Growing Linux Distro?

darthcamaro writes "What's the fastest growing Linux distro? This really solid article on InternetNews.com contains interviews with the Debian Project leader, the founder of Mandrake, SuSe, Red Hat and TurboLinux to get their take on who's the biggest and who's the baddest on the distro block. Also includes some interesting insight into the next round of releases."

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  1. The fastest shrinking distro by HuguesT · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Has got to be RedHat.

    1. Re:The fastest shrinking distro by filtur · · Score: 5, Funny

      I see that Redhat has been in the pool......

    2. Re:The fastest shrinking distro by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually acording the the article RedHat added twice the number of installs over Debian. Percent growth is kind of a stupid number, since the "fastest growning" distribution could be one that went from 1 install to 2.

    3. Re:The fastest shrinking distro by DebianRcksLindowsLie · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Finally Debian is getting its due! RedHat is fastest, as the first post noted, but shrinking. Debian's security is LEGENDARY. Spinoffs of Debian such as Xandros only help to entrench Debian as a secure OS.

      ANYONE making a secure and stable Linux distro deserves props. Debian leads the pack. Xandros puts out a different GUI. Props to them all.

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    4. Re:The fastest shrinking distro by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      The article says it has had the slowest growth rate, not that it is shrinking.

      "RedHat has a far greater number of installations at 1.5 million, but a slower growth rate in the six-month span at 17.8 percent; "

      It is still growing, just not as fast as the other distros.

    5. Re:The fastest shrinking distro by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The fact that they made it 10x more expensive, and they are still growing at all says quite a bit about RedHat's market position.

    6. Re:The fastest shrinking distro by NanoGator · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "People got upset at the mention of MS dropping support for Win98 and that is 6 years old now."

      That had more to do with the who than the 'what they did'. Microsoft was bashed here both for discontinuing it, and then changing their mind and renewing it.

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  2. I know! by GonzoDave · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's SCO Linux

    1. Re:I know! by LordK3nn3th · · Score: 5, Funny

      "LawsuitLinux", with a penguin dressed up as a lawyer? And costs $699?

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  3. Better set a minimum size... by Kjella · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...or the fastest growing one would be the one that went from 1 to 5 users last week ;)

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    1. Re:Better set a minimum size... by niittyniemi · · Score: 5, Funny

      > ...or the fastest growing one would be the
      > one that went from 1 to 5 users last week ;)


      There always has to be at least one person having a dig at Hurd ;)

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  4. Gentoo by alanoneil · · Score: 5, Funny

    Gentoo would be rated higher, but they're still waiting for the results to compile.

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    1. Re:Gentoo by Cranx · · Score: 5, Funny

      Sometimes people say things at just the right time to make it stinking hilarious. I have been compiling Gentoo+KDE on an older computer here since Saturday afternoon.

    2. Re:Gentoo by Gerald · · Score: 5, Funny

      Sure it does. It's called "bash".

    3. Re:Gentoo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Gentoo Linux: Because life it too short to reboot all day, but long enough to "emerge openoffice.org".

    4. Re:Gentoo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Moreover, this explains the women who are there!

  5. depends on what demographic by pyros · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For commercial market share, Red Hat and Suse take the cake (and Red Hat gives the recipe for the icing). But there are a lot of people using Debian in a dizzying array of roles. You can't really measure the commercial rollout of Debian though. If you're just talking about home use, there's no way to tell.

  6. I'd think it's Knoppix by darnok · · Score: 5, Interesting

    People who I suspect don't know what Linux is, are now starting to talk to me about this cool "whole computer thing on a CD". When you ask a few questions, it turns out it's Knoppix they're talking about.

    I've got no idea if they're ever going to actually switch to Knoppix, but it has a coolness about it that's pretty impressive to a whole lot of people. That's what getting distributed in magazines will do for you. In fact, reading those magazines the month after they bundle a Linux distro, there's always a bunch of reader's letters talking about how great "this Linux thing" is after all.

    1. Re:I'd think it's Knoppix by chamilto0516 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Actually the most installed distro HAS to be Knoppix. I "install" it every time I reboot! (I have a laptop plugged into an outlet across the room and my 3yr old likes to kick the power out every other day). I alone am probably responsible for half the knoppix installations if such things could be tracked.

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  7. Well yes, that kind of happens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When you purposefully discontinue distribution to half of your customers!

    Likewise, logically, from a purely differential standpoint, the fastest growing distribuion atm would have to be Fedora, since it gained (what?) half of Redhat's customers in the course of a single day (when Redhat told that half of its customer base, guess what, you're now a Fedora customer).

    1. Re:Well yes, that kind of happens by The+Analog+Kid · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I wouldn't consider half those people actual customers because they aren't buying anything. Sure there was a small amount buying the boxed set, but really it was pretty small compared to those just downloading it off the internet.

    2. Re:Well yes, that kind of happens by The+Analog+Kid · · Score: 5, Informative

      However the parent was talking about how Red Hat cut off half there customer because they stop producing a free downloadable and boxed set version of their operating system.(Which really was just draining money doing so, because the number buying it didn't outweigh the money involved in making it). Once they cut the dead weight, Red Hat is now actually turning a profit, and their stock has risen over 100% since. (Though that could just be do to them filing a lawsuit against SCO).

    3. Re:Well yes, that kind of happens by globalar · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I get your point, and from a business perspective this is right on. But the end users have their own perspective, and that controls what they buy and how they spend their money.

      Linux is basically free. At a base price of nothing for the core components (and with alternative distros like Mandrake), it doesn't make sense to try to sell a distribution without allowing someone to preview it. What you are paying for is support (especially easy updates), to get hard copy documentation and media, as well as to support Linux in general. Note: I bet a lot of people (percentage-wise) bought Redhat to support Linux. Those users downloading the OS can translate into customers and at the very least may influence others (their employers and friends) to buy or use. The bigger the user base, the more influence you have, the more brand recognition, the more people will actually shell out cash.

      Big point being that Redhat got its reputation with those freeloaders, some of which became into customers. The net gain was Redhat's growth and popularity, which somehow found a place in the business world with marketing direction. Basically, no one paid for the OS upfront, but rather tried it and then paid. So the customer pool comes from freeloaders, directly or indirectly that is why Redhat is purchased (because someone uses it for free to begin with).

      Redhat wanted business contracts, because those are stable and there is a growing market (not to mention good money). Redhat took its good name, and now sells it to businesses. But that name became popular largely with the aid of freeloaders.

  8. Fastest growing? by s4m7 · · Score: 5, Funny

    My debian distro grows every day. not sure how fast though.

    apt-get update
    apt-get upgrade

    30 new packages installed, none removed and 2 held back.

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  9. If you consider it a distro by barenaked · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think it has got to be Knoppix. I mean it is the best option for newbies and has inspired so many sping-off's. I think it definately qualifies as the fastest growing for that reason. It has introduced more people and is helping more people to come into the Linux World.

  10. Stats by Doesn't_Comment_Code · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Red Hat -> Lots of enterprise and business users
    Suse -> More of the same, except mostly in Europe
    Mandrake -> Fast growing with non-techies and some businesses too
    Fedora/Old Red Hat -> Fast growing with home users
    Debian -> Growing with home users Slackware/Knoppix/Gentoo... -> all have niche audiences

    http://www.distrowatch.com/ has a ranking of people downloading each distro from them at the lower right of the page.

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  11. Debian based by sanctimonius+hypocrt · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Debian based distros seem to be generating a lot of buzz just now. Reviews of Lindows, Lycoris, Mepis, and all the Knoppix-varients seem like they`re everywhere.

    Part of this I attribute to Redhat`s less-than graceful move away from the desktop (I know that`s an oversimplication...). Fedora is there, but I think Redhat made it too obvious that users would be leaving Redhat and moving to something else. People thought, "Well, if I`m leaving Redhat anyway, maybe this is a good time to try something else." The biggest "something else" to Redhat is Debian.

    Another cause might be the brilliant success of Knoppix. It`s easy to try, and easy to like. Of course, it runs a little slowly from the CD, but a hard-drive install is easy. And what do you do after you install? Atpget update.

    Of course, the commercial distros are actively working to get people to use and buy their product, but I`m not sure how much that really has to do with it. Right now these companies are benefiting from the Debian buzz, and they will contunue to benefit until they do something to antagonize their customers.


  12. WINDOWS 2000 - THE OPEN SOURCE EDITION by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Has only been in distribution for a couple of days now and it's doing pretty well. I'd say it will surpass lunix by the end of the year.

  13. Either Mandrake or Gentoo by LordK3nn3th · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Mandrake has always been very popular because of its ease of use.

    But Gentoo has stepped out of the shadows and now is talk of the town among geeks (although it has yet to gain a lot of popularity under "Linux laymen".

    I'd say it's a toss-up between Mandrake and Gentoo. RedHat IS shrinking, for obvious reasons, and Fedora just isn't that popular. Debian isn't as "big" as Mandrake, Slackware... I haven't heard much about that in a while... and SuSE, while up there, seems to have been more popular two years ago than it is now.

    The fastest-growing LiveCD linux obviously is Knoppix, which really is its own class apart from the desktop/server environments.

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  14. Somewhat useful... by chamilto0516 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    This type of information is interesting to know but is less useful than Linux as a whole (all distributions) and how it compares to competitors. This info could be made more useful if it is broken out by Sales vs. Free (as in beer) downloads and company/group for business use vs. hobbyist for personal or educaiton use.

    I read a review of about a dozen distributions and being only familiary with very early Slackware and RedHat (from v.4) was supprised at how different they are. I just recently downloaded Knoppix and I see a real niche for it. I have some old equipment and want to know if there is a distro that will perform less sluggish than the latest RedHat 9 (either through a default config options or ommisions of unnecessary packages).

    However, I have found value in going with the popular thing (how often is the majority wront?) sometimes so yes, after all this "useful?" speak, I see some value in these kinds of things from some angle.

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  15. The questions I would ask would be different by cluge · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1. What is the best distro for servers?
    a. ease of setup up
    b. security
    c. ease of upgrade
    d. longevity of support
    e. remote management ability

    2. What is the best distro for the desktop
    a. speed of setup
    b. has the apps I need
    c. ease of upgrade/patches
    d. supports my hardware
    e. ease of use for newbies

    3. What is the best of both worlds (1 plus 2)

    Just because something is the fastest growing doesn't mean it's the best. While I've read tons of reviews most have such a bias as to be laughable. I'll keep using my tried and true redhat/debian/mandrake/fedora box for now :)

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  16. Re:From what I gather... by MikeCapone · · Score: 5, Informative

    I really should check our Gentoo, it might just work on my crappy 5 year old Wintel machine...

    I wouldn't recommend it unless you don't want to actually work on that box.

    I mean, sure you could save on the compile times (good luck compiling KDE/gnome, Mozilla and Open Office on a "crappy 5 year old Wintel machine") by getting binaries, but then, why not just use Slackware or Debian...

  17. Re:Definitely... by El · · Score: 5, Informative

    Selling 1 license last week and 2 licenses this week would be a 100% increase. Selling 0 licenses last week and 1 license this week is an infinite percentage increase. I hope you pay somebody else to compute your taxes...

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  18. Fastest Growing? by renelicious · · Score: 5, Funny

    Come on its gotta be Fedora, I remember just a few versions ago it all fit on 1 CD, but this weekend I had to download 4 DAMN discs to make the new version run.

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  19. GoogleFight! by ebilhoax · · Score: 5, Funny

    Redhat vs Debian: RedHat wins!
    Redhat vs Slackware: RedHat wins!
    Redhat vs Gentoo: Redhat wins!
    Open Source vs Closed Source: Open Source wins! ;p

  20. Confusion Reigns Supreme by tonyr60 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As with most IT articles, the objective seems to be a good headline rather than a factual appreciation of the facts.

    From the article, RedHat seems to have the most numbers out there, AND Debian has the fastest growth as a platform for Apache. No conflict there.

    But which is the fastest growing distro? Who really cares. If I sold 1 last week and 10 this week I may have the fastest growing distro, but with .0000001% of the market - so what.

    However if Sun really start shipping the Java Desktop (Suse based version) to all those chinese sites then it would likely win

  21. Soldi article? Really? So where was Slackware then by Viol8 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Can someone tell me why Slackware hardly ever gets a mention in these sorts of articles that purport to be written by journos with their fingers on the pulse?
    Slackware is used by a LARGE number of sys admins so though it may me small fry in the home market its anything but in the server arena. Perhaps these writers should get a bit more clued
    up about whats really going on out there rather than just finding out and waflling about distributions that their mates have mentioned to them.

  22. Hard to say by El · · Score: 5, Funny

    But for certain, the slowest growing Linux distro is the SCO "All your code base are belong to us!" Linux.

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  23. Re:From what I gather... by __past__ · · Score: 5, Funny
    It seems to be Gentoo to me, it's always suggested when someone asks for a new distro
    The main problem with Gentoo seems to be that it is also always recommended when nobody did ask for a new distro.
  24. Re:From what I gather... by damiam · · Score: 5, Informative

    I realize you're trolling/joking, but Debian supports new hardware just fine. I installed it on my dual Athlon 2200+ w/ SB Audigy and Radeon 9700PRO a year ago, and it worked fine and still does. Myths about Debian's hardware support mostly seem to come from its lack of an autodetecting installer, although Knoppix and debian-installer are fixing that.

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  25. Re:From what I gather... by NixLuver · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I started with Slack, years ago, then switched to RH when I started doing commercial Linux stuff (at approximately 5.2, around the libc5/6 controversy time); now I use Gentoo on my workstations, because it kinda brings back that old Slackware ("The distribution with attitude") feeling; it's the distro for ubergeeks or distro weenies that either like to get their hands dirty on the internals, or people who like to say they like to get their hands dirty on the internals.

    I will tell you what; if you set up Gentoo a few times, you'll truly understand the Linux boot process and associated configuration.

  26. Yggdrasil, of course by kerskine · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...all other distros are for wussies

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  27. Google riding by sokk · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I had some time to play. I did a google on the following distros, and sorted the hits:
    "Red Hat" Linux.. 4,290,000
    Debian Linux..... 3,820,000
    Suse Linux....... 3,320,000
    Mandrake Linux... 1,860,000
    Gentoo Linux..... 1,130,000
    Slackware Linux.. 1,030,000
    Fedora Linux..... 686,000
    Knoppix Linux.... 490,000

    Btw. I included "Linux", to remove irrelevant hits. Hopefully, it scaled down evenly.
  28. What I don't understand about Debian by beforewisdom · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Is the comment in the article that Debian is working towards making the distro more friendly.

    Knoppix has been around for a while now. Aside from being a live CD distro it is also known as an "easy Debian".

    Its GPL

    Why can't the Debian folks just cobble all of the good stuff Karl Knopper did into Debian?

    Steve

  29. MY distro is the fastest growing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    2 months ago, no one was using my distro.

    1 month ago, I created a distro, which was remarkably similar to Red Hat, but with a few extra configuration files specific to our computer lab. My distro had one user -- me.

    This month, I installed my distro on 10 other machines in the lab. Yes, that's right -- in one month, my distro's userbase increased from 1 to 11, or an increase of 1000% That's an annualized growth rate of 10^12, or over ONE TRILLION PERCENT!

    So, please either acknowledge that (1) my distro is the fastest growing, or (2) "fastest growing" statistics are really dumb.

  30. What's the big deal? by Jay9333 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe I'm missing something, but what's the big difference between a Fedora customer and a Red Hat customer, except the name? What are people so excited about? From what I can tell both RH 9 and Fedora are still free (as in beer) and all still get security updates (now from a corporation supported community instead of just a corporation). Red Hat is still pouring a lot of effort and money into the community. Are people upset because they don't get phone support any more or something like that? Seriously, what makes people feel sold out?

    I personally am excited that a OSS-based company is starting to succeed and is creating a winning business model in the market place. OSS helps the market by increasing competition. I'd better get used to OSS companies needing to make money somewhere, if I want to see them take market share from proprietary companies. It seems such corporations make in-roads into the market more easily then a less organized community. Red Hat's success, its relationship with IBM, and IBM's increasing dependency on OSS is a great thing, IMHO.

  31. Fastest growing, or most popular web server by buchanmilne · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While I don't contest the stats in the article, I just wonder if web server stats are valid for "Fastest Growing Linux Distro", even if they are valid for "Fastest Growing Apache platform".

    Unless you assume every corporate/SME file/print/authentication server and all desktops run publicly accessible webservers, this is a really bad metric ...

    IDC stats aren't much better either ...

    Of the > 30 machines running Mandrake that I have installed (ranging from corporate authentication servers to firewalls to laptops), only one has a publicly accessible web server.

  32. Xandros, safe? Not according to this by da'covale · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/35588.html But the real security problem in Xandros is precisely the Windows affliction: too many networking services are enabled by default.

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