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The Self-Tuning Guitar

CowboyRobot writes "With the TransPerformance Performer you push a button to activate a mechanical re-tensioning of the strings to any of a few hundred tunings, 'accurate to within 2 cents over the entire tuning range', in a couple of seconds. They can even refit your existing guitar. There's a long audio interview with Jimmy Page on the site. It's funny to hear him speak."

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  1. Even more fabulous by jaf · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's being done with pianos:
    See this New Scientist article

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    1. Re:Even more fabulous by micromoog · · Score: 5, Informative
      This isn't just for correcting tuning. The real boon for guitarists is not the ability to correct tuning quickly (that's actually really easy), but to change to alternate tunings quickly. There are many alternate tunings that take advantage of resonance between different open strings for very interesting sounds, but are not suitable for general-purpose use like the "standard" tuning because the intervals are too awkward.

      Alternate tunings are not very widely used today, mainly because it's such a pain in the ass to retune a whole guitar. Some company back in the 80s made a guitar bridge where you could flip switches at the base of each string to change its tuning . . . I think it worked fairly well, but was not widely used. There's also a tuning key that just drops the low E down to D with the flip of a switch . . . that one got used a fair bit.

  2. Sweetness... by bucktug · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now if only they could get one to automatically play a real F or some of the more complicated SUS7#'s for us...

    I have the fealing that most guitarists use the F just to stop me from trying to learn the song.

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  3. Roadies by Em+Emalb · · Score: 5, Funny

    man, I feel bad for the roadies.

    No more tuning the guitars.

    Sucks to be them.

    Guess its mic checks from here on out. Sorry fellas.

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    1. Re:Roadies by LittleBigLui · · Score: 5, Funny
      Guess its mic checks from here on out. Sorry fellas.


      but mic checks are so much more rewarding:

      (big festival, crowd waiting for next band)

      Roadie: Microphone check ...
      Roadie: ... one, TWO!
      Crowd: ONE, TWO!
      Roadie: CHECK, CHECK, ONE, TWO!
      Crowd: CHECK, CHECK, ONE, TWO!
      (Singer enters the stage, hugs roadie)
      Singer: That nice guy is Jimmy. Everybody say "Fuck you, Jimmy"!
      Crowd: Fuck you, Jimmy!

      ahh, the sweet memories :)

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  4. vocalists by v_1_r_u_5 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now if only we can get these for vocalists...

    1. Re:vocalists by Bohnanza · · Score: 5, Informative

      Believe it or not, Autotune already exists! This product is the sole reason people like Britney Spears and Justin Timberlake can be called "singers"

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  5. Worried by physicsboy500 · · Score: 5, Funny

    now I don't have to be concerned that I'm putting to much tension on my G-string... phew!

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  6. Cool, but by dreamchaser · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is really cool. However, maybe I'm showing my age here in that I'm not sure I really like the idea. I've been playing for 25 years (since I was 12) and IMHO a huge part of learning to play is developing a good ear and being able to tune your instrument by hand. I never cared for electronic tuners for the same reason.

    That being said, since I *can* tune by ear, I probably wouldn't mind the convenience of being able to 'dial in' whatever tuning I want.

    Let's just make sure that newbs learn things right before you let them have one of these ;-)

  7. Just what we need by AlgoRhythm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    well my first reaction was "Great! More tone deaf 'musicians' who can't even tune thier own guitars ... at least they'll just suck instead of also being out of tune."

    But then I remembered I fellow I used to play with who was enamoured with oddball tunings. I would have loved to get him one of these, because he had to change tunings so often that the audience would get bored in between songs. Wouldn't have been so bad if the guy had had a pesonality to keep them entertained with ... guess that's why I USED to play with him.

  8. Hmmm by pHatidic · · Score: 5, Funny

    Take a look under the testimonials section...Used by the band "Paul Allen and the Microsofts"??? I'm not sure if this is a joke or not, but /.'ers believe you me, its an omen. This thing must someone be evil.

  9. Re:tuning by NorthWoodsman · · Score: 5, Informative

    100 cents = 1 half-step = the smallest pitch distance on a piano

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  10. Bridge by debilo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Hello, don't hate me for it, but I followed the link and read the story. Seems like the bridge is replaced by motors that tune the guitar by moving the bridge slightly, thus increasing or lowering the string tension. I can't speak for everyone, but I for one like my strings in a fixed position from the frets. I want the distance between the strings and the frets as small as possible. Does anyone else see a problem with that, since moving the bridge alters that distance? Or do you think those movements would be so subtle that one could hardly tell there was a movement at all?

  11. People... by ProudClod · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Don't seem to understand what this product is for. It's not for tonedeaf idiots who can't tune a guitar.

    It's for professionals, who want to expand their sound by being able to change tuning midsong and at a rate of a tone a second, so that you can get effects and changes in sound that are impossible on a normal guitar tuning headstock (believe me, I just tried to emulate this video with my guitar: http://www.selftuning.com/video/video.html )

    I think the price tag of 3300$-3899$ says it all really.

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  12. Re:Professionals only, please by ageitgey · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Most professionals (who make any sort of real income playing) have roadies who tune their guitars for them. That way they can have the roadie tune an extra guitar between songs and they can switch for the next song without delaying the show.

    I think a lot of guitarists think of tuning as an annoyance, much like setting up amps and monitors. That being said, it's still cheaper and more efficient to buy 4 guitars for a thousand dollars each and have them tuned up for different songs than to spend 4000 on retrofitting a one thousand dollar guitar unless you change tunings during the song.

    As anyone who has seen Jimmy Page live in the last 8 years or so can tell you, he uses the auto-tuner to change tunings in the middle of the song and even uses contant tuning changing as an "effect". Some of his effects would be otherwise impossible to create live.

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  13. Re:I can't wait... by dasmegabyte · · Score: 5, Informative

    Uh, cars are self tuning now.

    "Tuning" on a car, as in a "tune up," refers to the adjustment of the fuel and ignition systems to provide maximum efficiency. On mechanical cars, this meant adjusting the carburetor, adjusting the timing, adjusting the ignition points and condensor, etc.

    All of these parts are computer controlled, and have been since fuel injection became popular around, well, some time between 1980 and 1990. It's even more efficient that way. And the computer is auto-adjusting -- it senses microscopic knocks and adjusts the mix on the fly. When a computer part fails, it fails obviously, unlike the gradual loss of power you face with a carburetor. I had my Ignition Control Module go on me two weeks ago and it was OBVIOUS...one cylinder just stopped firing (ouch).

    So yeah, cars are self tuning. In fact, anybody in the past 10 years who's sold you a "tune up" either did nothing at all to your car, or checked a lot of other things that had nothing to do with what we called a "tune up" before the 80s.

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  14. Re:Alternate Tunings by selfsimilar · · Score: 5, Informative

    AHEM. Your "tempered" scale is the "equally tempered" scale and it's actually only recently (in the history of music) come into vogue. There's a great book called "Temperament: How Music Became a Battleground for the Great Minds of Western Civilization" by Stuart Isacoff. Basically Bach's Well Tempered Klavier is written for "well" tempered pianos, not "equal" (aka modern) temperament. And there are a ton of great keyboard works from that era which call for specific differently tempered tunings.

    That said, you're right, most modern music is written for equal temperament. But if pianos were easier to tune to alternate temperaments I'm sure many composers would take advantage of that. Sure some might use it as a gimmick, but most serious piano composers are above gimmicks. And while I like John Cage and other modern radicals, it's not his kind of music that I think would benefit most from a piano that could quickly switch to alternate tunings, but the less experimental modern composers. Keyboard music didn't end when Mozart died.