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Storing Light In Chips

Roland Piquepaille writes "Recently, researchers have "stopped light" by storing light pulses in hot or extremely cold gases (check these former stories on Slashdot or at BBC News Online). Now, scientists from Stanford University have devised a method to store light pulses under ordinary conditions. In Light-storing chip charted, Technology Research News says this opens the way for all-optical communications switches, quantum computers and quantum communications devices. The researchers plan to demonstrate this technique by trapping microwave signals within a year. They think that a prototype which works at optical frequencies could be made in two to five years. This overview contains more details and references."

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  1. Schrodinger by andy666 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This was predicted by Schrodinger in the 30's - it really took them a long time to do it.

    1. Re:Schrodinger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      And to this date, nobody actually *tried* tying buttered toast to a cat's back, for the hovering-cat effect!

    2. Re:Schrodinger by Winkhorst · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Hey, it took centuries to get around to using Copernicus's orbital equations with spacecraft. This is the beauty of basic research. It eventually has a practical use, but you can't base its validity on how long it takes to use it. And you have to distinguish between research and the ability to invent something. As John W. Campbell once pointed out, the Classical Greeks had everything necessarily to invent the phonograph, though it wasn't until Edison that somebody got around to doing it. In that particular case, it was the mental rut into which the Greeks had worn themselves that kept them from making much practical progress, thus leading to the return to power of irrational religion and the eventual rise of the Dark Ages.

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    3. Re:Schrodinger by andy666 · · Score: 5, Informative

      It isn't Copernicus' equations that are used for spacecraft, but Newton's F=ma, Newton's law of gravitation, and an occasional use of General Relativistic corrections.

    4. Re:Schrodinger by gertsenl · · Score: 2, Funny

      Actually, I did once. It didn't work. :(

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    5. Re:Schrodinger by andy666 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Maybe the toast would just force it's buttered side to the floor, squishing the cat.

  2. Not hard by Squareball · · Score: 5, Funny

    Storing microwaves within a year isn't very hard. I mean a year is huge!

    1. Re:Not hard by maztuhblastah · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, but if you store them in a chip, it's much easier to find them -- provided that you don't lose the chip, of course.

      Yeah, but who microwaves chips...I use salsa.

    2. Re:Not hard by Squiffy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Last year I chipped a store with a microwave.

  3. Practicality in Displays by Aurix · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Anyone know if this would help out in display technologies?

    Ie, instead of refreshing a CRT, if the light was held until it was no longer needed?

    Might pave the way to some new display technologies =)

    1. Re:Practicality in Displays by cubic6 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well, if the light is held, it's not getting to your eyes, and thus not making a visible picture. So in that particular instance, I would think that this wouldn't help very much.

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    2. Re:Practicality in Displays by mean+pun · · Score: 5, Informative
      LCD's do that already! They stay in their state until they get a signal to change their brightness. They arent scanned like CRTS are! Thats why they look more clear/are thinner etc/.

      That's wrong on a lot of levels: LCDs do not store light, they selectively block it. Liquid Crystals (that give LCDs their name) do not stay in a fixed state on their own, but must be regularly aligned. Small and old displays use scanning very similar to CRTs, modern and large displays have a memory cell for each pixel.

  4. quantum? by freerecords · · Score: 4, Insightful

    quantum computers are still, and will be, a very very long way off. it is not enough to say that one single development will speed their coming, rather one obstacle will be replaced by another - sod's law

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  5. So far I've seen.. by p4ul13 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    So far the comments have talked about using this for communcation / processing devices. Some have mentioned using this tech as weapons and such.

    I'm wondering if light or other waves stored in such a fashion could be used as a battery of sorts.

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    1. Re:So far I've seen.. by spike+hay · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Af far as non combustion jet engines go, they tried nuclear ramjets back in the 60's. They actually worked fairly well. Rather than lasers, suppose you had a few megawatts of microwaves being beamed up to a rectenna on an airplane, giving the airplane quite a bit of electrical power. The air in a jet engine could be heated by super-hot heating coils. Or else, you set alight a smallish pilot flame of acetylene or something, and pump the microwaves directly into the combustion chamber. This would create very hot plasma, as the microwaves would be absorbed the the acetylene flame.

      If you've ever put a match in a microwave, the conducting flame absorbs the microwaves. This can cause a huge burst of white or blue plasma, often several inches wide and leaping up to the top of the microwave.

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  6. Quantum Leaping? by enderanjin · · Score: 4, Funny

    When can we step back into the past and correct someone else's mistakes?

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    1. Re:Quantum Leaping? by strike2867 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Moderators, quantom technology has been connected very closely to time travel. For more information look at any quantum book. I would suggest Stephen Hawkings old book, A Brief History of Time.I dont have Mod points anymore so I cant correct this.

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  7. Please tell me how this time it's different. by Mysteray · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Keep in mind that this is only theoretical. The researchers plan to demonstrate this technique by trapping microwave signals within a year. They think that a prototype which works at optical frequencies could be made in two to five years.

    Does this sound like another one of those "breakthroughs" in optical/quantum computation where prototypes are "just around the corner" and commercialization is "just a few years away", yet it never happens?

    Tell me how this time it's different. Does it work on standard fab processes?

    I would really love a CPU with a terahertz clock. I guess it would still be I/O bound, though.

    1. Re:Please tell me how this time it's different. by Bandman · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually, I think the first such "breakthrough" was when they managed to stop light in a Bose-Einstein Condensate, there-by proving that it was possible, under extreme circumstances. This is a much more practical way of doing it. If they succeed, then we will move beyond the "breakthrough" into the "practice" part. It could be very good.

      Sorry for any misspellings or typos. I just crawled out of bed literally.

    2. Re:Please tell me how this time it's different. by Mysteray · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No, you misunderstand me. I think it's great that we have pure researchers pushing out the limits of human knowledge, and am grateful for their work. I certainly am glad they have results to publish.

      I think the main problem is that we have a popular science press that, in talking down to its readers, always reports pure research as if it were applied research. While fun to read, the effect can be that technology becomes over-promised and over-hyped too early in its development. This can cause good tech to become stigmatized as a black hole for research funding.

      I don't see anything that would indicate that these researchers are acting in an overly self-promotional manner. However, it looks like optical and quantum computing are in danger of being painted with the same brush as fusion power, AI, holographic storage, quantum effects (teleportation, anti-gravity, faster-than-light), etc..

  8. Optical gets bypassed by other denser tech? by G4from128k · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wonder if optical will simply be bypassed by other, already denser technologies. Semiconductor feature sizes are an order of magnitude smaller than a wavelength of light -- giving them at least a 100-fold advantage (assuming the an optical computer could even have useful feature sizes at wavelength scales). Commerically available HD densities are over 100 bits per micron-square. And this does not even count on any new nanotechnologies in circuits or storage.

    I'm sure that optical will have a role in the future. The ability to send ultrahigh bandwidth signals over long-distance fibers is extremely valuable. All-optical switching/routing would certainly improve latency. The ability of light beams to nondestructively pass through other light beams also makes it ideal for denser chip-to-chip and device-to-device interconnects. Finally, holographic memory storage migth have a future (although it would not surprise me if current HD densities are probably on par with expected future holographic information densities)

    That's why I doubt that we will see an all-optical future. Other technologies already provide better densities in circuits and storage. Only in the realm of communications, does optical really shine.

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    1. Re:Optical gets bypassed by other denser tech? by AbbyNormal · · Score: 4, Funny

      Dude, check out my light harddrive.

      ..Opens case, goes blind and loses content of computer

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    2. Re:Optical gets bypassed by other denser tech? by polv0 · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I wonder if optical will simply be bypassed by other, already denser technologies.
      There are two primary restrictions on current micro-processors. One is our ability to manufacture large deformity free wafers of silicon. The other is the excessive heat generated by the electricity. Both have been slated to slow our progress along Moores Law using conventional micro-processor technology.

      What are the alternatives? It is possible to build deformity free cubes of silicon. However, in a 3-dimensional chip the heat generated (grows with the cube of the height of the chip) is dissapated through surface area (grows with the square of the height of the chip) so it compounds the second problem.

      A probable alternative is the substitution of man-made diamond wafers for silicon. Diamond is far more heat-resistant than silicon, and can be created deformity free by plasma layering processes. Unfortunately the technology is still nacent and wafer sizes are still miniscule.

      Optical computation would clearly provide a heat advantage. Imagine the newest supercomputer powered by a flashlight. But regardless, the greatest advantage of this technology, if realized and implemented for even a small set of basic algorithms, will be quantum computers.
  9. Is it really storing light? by polyp2000 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The article gives the impression that these chips are storing or freezing light. I dont see how this is possible. If they were truly "storing" light how would one know? The way I see it, is that if you can "see" or "observe" light then by definition the light must be escaping.

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    1. Re:Is it really storing light? by Angstroman · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yes, the concept (it is only a theoretical concept, not a chip, in the paper) does store the light. When the optical pulse is completely within the postulated structure (meaning only a very short pulse can be stored), a modulation of the refractive index causes the fields associated with the pulse to be stored in the internal cavities of the crystal. Reversing the refractive index change causes the stored fields to reform a traveling wave, which exits the structure. The way that you know that the pulse has been stored in the computer simulations is that after the first refractive index change, nothing comes out of the structure. After the second change, a pulse emerges that has the same shape as the one that was sent in.

    2. Re:Is it really storing light? by BiggerIsBetter · · Score: 2, Interesting

      So if it has to be manually reversed, could you use it as a storage device? Eg, to store sunlight, or laser light for example?

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    3. Re:Is it really storing light? by strike2867 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Light is just energy. Think about when light passes through glass. Do you think it just stops on one side and then appears suddenly on the other side out of nowhere? The molecules in the glass store the energy of the light, then pass it onto the next molecule. Therefore for a very short amount of time that molecule stored the light. But what seems to have been done here, is that the scientists were able to keep the molecules in that excited state for a longer amount of time. BTW I did not RTFA, used to be a Phys Eng major.

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    4. Re:Is it really storing light? by spectecjr · · Score: 2, Informative

      The article gives the impression that these chips are storing or freezing light. I dont see how this is possible. If they were truly "storing" light how would one know? The way I see it, is that if you can "see" or "observe" light then by definition the light must be escaping.

      A better way of describing what this stuff does is that it records the state of the wave at every point in the medium. When they want to regenerate it, they recreate the pulse using that information. Effectively, all they're doing is recording the 3D information that they need to recreate the pulse, almost like a hologram.

      The pulse is not actually still in the system while it's "frozen" - the energy has dissipated, and the record of its state is all that's left.

      Remember, when light moves through a substance, you're not dealing with a continuous solid indivisible "thing" that remains unchanged. When photons move through glass, they get absorbed and re-emitted billions of times before they finally come out the other side.

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  10. Another Step by Gyorg_Lavode · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Another step in the right direction. It seems more and more like optical processing is the way that computers are gong to go in the future. We all know that the current (no pun intended) electrical processors are not going to be sustainable. Primarily for heat, lithography, and quantum interactions on the traces.

    This seems like a step in the right direction. I wonder if it can be used for memory or just buffers of a sort. Don't get me wrong, I don't think anyone expects a transition from electrical computers in the next decade, but the breakthroughs on the optical front seem to be accelerating.

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  11. Re:Please tell me how this time it's different by robbot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yeah I was excited reading the article until this quote.

    "The work would have been more impressive had the authors demonstrated the stopping of light experimentally, he added." Raymond Chiao, a professor of physics at the University of California at Berkeley.

    Yup one of those 2-5 years things again, like so much else...

  12. Diamond transistors X Light-based networks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What I think about is the future ability to create custom and finely tuned diamonds with different amounts of "impurities" grown into it with .30nm amounts of detail.

    What if you can not only use diamonds for electronic media, but also use the refractive nature of diamonds for storing and moving light?

    Couldn't the different light "switches" and other networking technology be added into diamonds as they are grown?

    Could you use something like that to grow 3 dimensional computer chips and storage media?

    Also aren't diamonds pretty much destruction proof... could you were a future computer in a ring or a harddrive in a earing?

  13. Re:Speed of light? by Weird+O'Puns · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you had just looked at some links in your Google search you would have found this:

    To be precise, what we usually call the "speed of light" is really the speed of light in a vacuum (the absence of matter). In reality, the speed of light depends on the material that light moves through. Thus, for example, light moves slower in glass than in air, and in both cases the speed is less than in a vacuum. Link

  14. Have been doing this for years... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I have been storing light in my fridge for years. Even when it's dark outside and I check, it is still there...

  15. Re:Please tell me how this time it's different by RouterSlayer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    yep... perhaps completely off-topic, but I invented a new technology, which is "5 years off", however, I actually have code, I have a beta, I have simulators, and it's actually been shown.

    so what does it take to get something like this off the ground? Seems like the only way sometimes is lots of media/marketing hype to get a bunch of cash so you can actually do the work.

    I have all this stuff redy to show (have shown several times), and I'm still broke and unemployed. Give me one good reason I shouldn't be hyping the heck out of it just so I can put food on the table? Or tell me what I'm supposed to do with this stuff...

  16. Opens the way... AGAIN! by JoeCommodore · · Score: 2, Funny
    Technology Research News says this opens the way...

    I know I've heard this spin several times before on optical processors, and just about every new advancement touts such claims. So I ask when WILL we see 'the way' as actually being "opened???"

    Of course this reply opens the way for people to flame me silly. And that IS a fact!

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  17. Re:Bright Chimps by SmackCrackandPot · · Score: 2, Funny

    When I read the first line in your comment, it looked like "Storing Light In ChipMunks" - I wondered what would happen when they were hibernating in Winter; would they glow or turn dark.

  18. Mirror Trap? by Sunlighter · · Score: 3, Informative

    No, here's what you need. You take a microwave transmitter and blast a second or so of bits at the moon. Wait three or four seconds, it echoes back. Receive it. Correct the errors (you did use error-correcting code, didn't you?), then send it to the moon again. And when it echoes back transmit it again. And so forth. First trick: you can correct and retransmit simultaneously with the reception. So you can have more data in flight than you have memory for on Earth. Second trick: you'll note that the power you get back is far less than what you sent out. But you can still retain the data. You have to act as a repeater, but that's all.

    You could do this with mirrors, but the mirrors will probably be too close together to store very much. Still, a laser, and a nearly 90 degree angle, and the light will zig-zag a lot, and you might have a few hundred feet before you need a repeater. Damned dusty mirrors! Damned non-transparent air!

    Third trick: with the moon, you now have a sort of bubble memory, but it's over 100,000 miles long. You could do the same trick with 100,000 miles of fiber-optic cable. But if you could slow down the speed of light you could use shorter cable (or store more in the same cable without having to drive the frequency and the bit rate really high). Also, you could shorten the period, which means your data is available sooner.

    If you can really slow down light to a few cm per second, then you can store a lot of stuff. But you will need power for the repeating.

    (What would be better is to make windows out of this stuff. You could look out the window and see what was happening outside yesterday. But imagine the solar power applications if you made the glass twelve hours thick instead of twenty-four. Sunlight would shine in during the daytime, and come pouring out at night!)

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  19. Re:Not a new idea by man_ls · · Score: 2

    There once was a man who would stand outside his house, staring in the windows, for hours a day - even in the rain.

    About ten years before, he had special light-delaying windows installed. Guarenteed to provide 10 years of sunlight from the tropics inside the house.

    His family was killed in a tragic accident. Staring in the windows, he was able to see images of them, the delayed images light, going about their business, inside his own house.

  20. Re:Schrodinger - my daughter tried it. by Ralph+Spoilsport · · Score: 2, Funny
    Our daughter, Elizabeth, age 6, tied a string to either side of a piece of buttered toast and then tied them together so the toast was on one of our cats (Felix the Slinky Puppy Cat) backs, butter side up.

    She then picked the oozy furball up, stood on a chair and dumped him.

    He spun around a bit and landed on his feet. The buttered toast ws still attached, but was now on his belly, butterside down.

    No perpetual motion, but proof that cats always land on their feet, and buttered toast always lands buttered side down.

    SCIENCE!

    RS

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