A networking protocol called "L2R" has been doing this for well over 10 years, it is stable, very mature, evolved, and installed in dozens of places.
It was also shown to the US Military back in 2001 around the time of the trade center stuff. They were interested, but couldn't understand it.
yes, that's right, the best the US DOD (at the time) had from their research facilities couldn't understand the damn thing.
They even had a prof from the UC try and steal it and he made an RFC out of his understandings, unfortuneately his understanding was so pathetically bad, it doesn't come close to working the same.
L2R is a proprietary, patented protocol, but because it's from a small, private group, it's never really caught on. I seriously doubt anyone will ever figure it out at this point.
it's been over 10 years and still no one has even come close!!
I mean, really,come on guys, get a clue...
Not true actually. Cisco routers still accept and pass spoofed packets happily along.
just send a few thousand spoofed random IP SYN packets at a cisco 7500 (or other) and watch it burst into flames...
they really are extraordinarily stupid.
Better yet - got DSL? just connect into an ISP that uses Ciscos AS products for DSL, spoof your IP by using the IP address of your ISPs authentication server... (or DNS server, etc etc) and watch every other user on the same device die...
Cisco calls these "directly connected" which over-rides your routed entries. They've known about this for 10 years and done nothing about it.
omfg... a "wiki" for tech problems? AUGH! please, wiki is the worst format I've ever seen.
what it needs is a knowledge base. with diagnosis and multiple solutions for each one. wiki is totally the wrong tool for this.
where's the threaded discussions? where's the multiple solutions per symptom? where's the multiple symptom tie-ins?
hello??
the only product that did this really well was "magic" help desk and then McAfee got their grubby hands on it and ruined it.
enterprise knowledgebase tool (sourceforge) is not bad, but its over-kill.
So far the best tool I can find is v-bulletin... (with phpBB2 trailing at a distant second place). invision or powerboard not far ahead of phpBB2... erg.
Nothing can replace the threaded discussion format, with multiple tie-ins. still not the best, but at least it's getting there.
So 198 comments and NO links to the trailer? WTF? bad slashdot, bad!
I only see links to the clip of the "live simpsons" intro, which we've seen before. but according to accounts, that is NOT the trailer to the movie. for one thing, the movie trailer has DIALOG!
Lem was (and still is) the best damn sci-fi writer ever I think! Still all my favorite books.
I remember buying a first edition copy of "memoirs found in a bathtub" cost me all of $14 at a used bookstore way back when. Now, these days, you can't find a lem book in a used book store if your life depended on it. At least not where I live, and not for probably more than a decade or more.
Cyberiad was one of my favorites, and futurological congress was actually the first book I read, really loved that stuff. and pirx too, and everything about Tichy.
And one of his "lesser" books (if any were truly lesser) was "One Human Minute" a very odd book to say the least.
I wrote a letter to him once. Thanking him for all he had done with all his work. I may never know if he got it, or whether it was read to him (translated). But at least, in some way he has touched all our lives.
I don't think we'll ever see stories like this again from anyone. the wonderous imagination, creativity and freedom. a certain spark that isn't really there with anyone else. It allowed your mind to go to places there are impossible.
Will we ever shell molecules with our hands? I doubt it. So something truly magical has been lost today. Rest well Mr. Lem, rest well.
this is the best distro you've ever seen? what the hell are you on? crack? gimme a break!
I recently installed FC5, it has to be the WORST installer I've ever seen in my life. Absolutely NO control over packages. NO control over options, and NO information at all! it couldnt even tell me how big the install would be (how much space).
and then, it has this horrible firstboot thing (which comes up EVERY time, not just first boot) - unless disabled. it comes up with a config menu BEFORE the login screen!
it doesn't ask for a password, it allows the console user to modify ANY configuration you want (network, user access, passwords, you name it!) everything! Oh yeah and selinux was turned on by default with no option to turn it off.
what the hell is this crap? For a rating of distros I'd give it a 1 out of 10 - giving it the worst rating of any distro I've used.
but then I dont like gentoo or debian either. so there you go. and mandriva is crap too. so there:)
Yep, the first computer I used was a PDP-10, followed by a PDP-11, followed in 1977/78 by a Vax!
g'damn Vaxen are the best damn systems I've ever used (Indexed files still don't exist anywhere else).
Then I used Atari 400s and 800s, the Vic-20, TRS-80, and Commodore 64. I owned a vic-20 briefly (by which I mean about 2 weeks) then got a c-64!
c64 was the best personal computer ever! really. gdamn it was fun hacking those! the Amiga is another system I used, but didn't own until much later. Commodore made the best systems of those times.
the limited labor working in the plant is still cheaper in China. Labor to build the fab is cheaper in China. Materials to build the fab are also cheaper. Office costs and other costs are also cheaper.
Everything else being equal, China still wins.
And China already manufacturers just about everything else. Go ahead, pick up a random object in your house/apartment/basement/etc see the little sticker? yeah "Made in China"...
And that goes for electronics and computer goods too. (the majority anyhow)
However, Sony will still be first to market with Blu-Ray, included in the PS3, several months before Microsofts crap goes to market, and probably before all the DRM crap gets settled too...
So, imagine this - Sony ships the PS3 with Blu-Ray. A drive that doesn't have the ratified DRM bullshit.
All this content and stuff comes out for PS3, all on Blu-Ray. Sony starts (or already) on movies shipping on Blu-Ray disks too.
And of course Sun is behind them too, and I can imagine AMD being part of this group. So all the AMD backers, and Sun supporters and Sony supports all start supporting and shipping Blu-Ray content.
And.... any computer techie worth his salt will be getting a blu-ray drive for their machines, and media. All 3rd party PS3 developers doing work on Blu-ray as well...
All MONTHS before M$ and their ilk get to market, and likely before the DRM crap is settled. So it means that M$'s bolstering really amounts to squat.
Vista only supports HD? Who cares! Run something else. PS3 is Linux. get with the program. Users can stick with XP Pro, or whatever, and probably have no problems with blu-ray at all.
First to market = First to rule! Sony will win, they'll be out there, established, and it'll be far far too late for M$ to do anything.
M$ is just trying to pre-empt the launch, but too bad, so sad. It wont help.
Microsoft's Yates said that OpenDocument and Open XML come from very different marketing objectives. 'In the future at some point there will be convergence to Microsofts products,' he said. In the near term, the transition period from actual open standards document formats to Microsoft proprietary Open XML-based ones will be 'messy and complex,' he added. 'Competition between standards we believe is a very good thing, as long as Microsoft ends up owning them and getting the royalties.'"
2007 should be out in Sept of 2006. But then, 2006 was supposed to be out in sept this year and was delayed for no reason.
(actually they wanted to launch all the 2006 products at the same time - which artificially delayed some of the products).
BTW - 2006 version really sucks, they've taken features out that were really handy, and it's SLOOOW as freaking heck. and the system tray thingy is annoying
I've gone to NOD32 and suggest you do too... Symantecs time is over...
Throw your Microsoft boxes into Boston Harbor!
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So are we going to see a real-life Boston tea party all over again?
Are we going to (hopefully) see thousands of people throwing boxes of Microsoft products into the harbor?
Who can organize this and when can we have the party? (I'm serious!)
there are MILLIONS of programs, you can download a single binary, on linux, unpack it, and run it. done and done. easy as pie.
there are another BILLION program you get the tar/gz, unpack it, configure, make, and run. Hey, it's open source, you get the source. do what you want with it. Windows doesn't have this, so stop griping.
there are another BILLION rpms you can download, install, and run, no fuss, no muss. just like your supposed windows install. uhm, except in windows its "ok, yes, next, next, next, next, next, NEXT, OK ALREADY JUST F-ING INSTALL ALREADY!, yes, yes, yes, next, next. AUGH!!!!"
with rpms its install. done. run. whew, that was hard (not!)
With SUSE, use YAST, my god its hard to use (ahahahaha! not!) or with SUSE you can use apt-get or yum or whatever else you want to use.
There is WAY more software for linux out there than windows. oh yes there is, take a look at sourceforge, freshmeat, and the mother of ALL places - SimTelNet! there are probably billions of programs on SimTel... probably the worlds oldest and longest running archive anywhere.
I dunno, to me, windows is inept. its slow, flaky, crash-prone, and has no ends of headaches. where as unix systems just plain work.
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A networking protocol called "L2R" has been doing this for well over 10 years,
it is stable, very mature, evolved, and installed in dozens of places.
It was also shown to the US Military back in 2001 around the time of the trade center stuff.
They were interested, but couldn't understand it.
yes, that's right, the best the US DOD (at the time) had from their research facilities
couldn't understand the damn thing.
They even had a prof from the UC try and steal it and he made an RFC out of his understandings,
unfortuneately his understanding was so pathetically bad, it doesn't come close to working the same.
L2R is a proprietary, patented protocol, but because it's from a small, private group, it's never really caught on.
I seriously doubt anyone will ever figure it out at this point.
it's been over 10 years and still no one has even come close!!
I mean, really,come on guys, get a clue...
Doesn't work on 7500s. still a bug.
doesn't solve the "directly connected" bug either.
Not true actually.
Cisco routers still accept and pass spoofed packets happily along.
just send a few thousand spoofed random IP SYN packets at a cisco 7500 (or other) and watch it burst into flames...
they really are extraordinarily stupid.
Better yet - got DSL? just connect into an ISP that uses Ciscos AS products for DSL, spoof your IP by using the IP address of your ISPs authentication server... (or DNS server, etc etc) and watch every other user on the same device die...
Cisco calls these "directly connected" which over-rides your routed entries. They've known about this for 10 years and done nothing about it.
To whoever is the asshole that's modding down my comments, please go fuck yourself
How the FUCK is this flamebate asshole?!?
get a fucking life already
GM is now owned by some consortium of hedge fund companies.
the deal was about $14 billion if I remember correctly.
so, it can happen.
But I think SOny is bigger all around.
consumer electronics, and one of the largest film stuidos in the world.
yeah, $ will buy em.... riiiight...
Nasdaq shows the sony stock worth $48 billion. But I have a feeling that's only part of the story, cuz there's other stocks as well.
"Worst... idea... ever..."
omfg... a "wiki" for tech problems? AUGH!
please, wiki is the worst format I've ever seen.
what it needs is a knowledge base. with diagnosis and multiple solutions for each one.
wiki is totally the wrong tool for this.
where's the threaded discussions? where's the multiple solutions per symptom?
where's the multiple symptom tie-ins?
hello??
the only product that did this really well was "magic" help desk and then McAfee got their grubby hands on it and ruined it.
enterprise knowledgebase tool (sourceforge) is not bad, but its over-kill.
So far the best tool I can find is v-bulletin... (with phpBB2 trailing at a distant second place).
invision or powerboard not far ahead of phpBB2... erg.
Nothing can replace the threaded discussion format, with multiple tie-ins. still not the best, but at least it's getting there.
So 198 comments and NO links to the trailer? WTF?
bad slashdot, bad!
I only see links to the clip of the "live simpsons" intro, which we've seen before.
but according to accounts, that is NOT the trailer to the movie.
for one thing, the movie trailer has DIALOG!
hello people, make with the links!
Lem was (and still is) the best damn sci-fi writer ever I think!
Still all my favorite books.
I remember buying a first edition copy of "memoirs found in a bathtub" cost me all of $14 at a used bookstore way back when.
Now, these days, you can't find a lem book in a used book store if your life depended on it. At least not where I live,
and not for probably more than a decade or more.
Cyberiad was one of my favorites, and futurological congress was actually the first book I read, really loved that stuff.
and pirx too, and everything about Tichy.
And one of his "lesser" books (if any were truly lesser) was "One Human Minute" a very odd book to say the least.
I wrote a letter to him once. Thanking him for all he had done with all his work. I may never know if he got it, or whether it was read to him (translated). But at least, in some way he has touched all our lives.
I don't think we'll ever see stories like this again from anyone. the wonderous imagination, creativity and freedom. a certain spark that isn't really there with anyone else. It allowed your mind to go to places there are impossible.
Will we ever shell molecules with our hands? I doubt it. So something truly magical has been lost today.
Rest well Mr. Lem, rest well.
oh come on!
:)
this is the best distro you've ever seen? what the hell are you on? crack?
gimme a break!
I recently installed FC5, it has to be the WORST installer I've ever seen in my life.
Absolutely NO control over packages. NO control over options, and NO information at all!
it couldnt even tell me how big the install would be (how much space).
and then, it has this horrible firstboot thing (which comes up EVERY time, not just first boot) - unless disabled.
it comes up with a config menu BEFORE the login screen!
it doesn't ask for a password, it allows the console user to modify ANY configuration you want (network, user access, passwords, you name it!) everything! Oh yeah and selinux was turned on by default with no option to turn it off.
what the hell is this crap? For a rating of distros I'd give it a 1 out of 10 - giving it the worst rating of any distro I've used.
but then I dont like gentoo or debian either. so there you go. and mandriva is crap too. so there
I mean come on, the horse is dead,
stop kicking it!
yeah I know I'll get modded down cuz some a-hole mod always mods me down.
no matter what I post, good, bad or indifferent, always modded down.
I put one of the most impressive posts about BSD on here before.
even one of the most staunch BSD supporters liked my post and agreed with it.
it still got modded down.
BSD is dead, its been in the dark ages forever. still no decent partition handling,
and still the silly "magic number" nonsense. all sorts of crap.
someone will pick up openssh, maybe even Novell or someone else.
that stuff is in no danger.
openbsd supporters need to get over themselves, and get their heads out of their asses.
Everybody is making jokes, eaten by a grue, zork references.
gimme a break!
First post! ;)
That was a direct quote...
Yep, the first computer I used was a PDP-10, followed by a PDP-11, followed in 1977/78 by a Vax!
g'damn Vaxen are the best damn systems I've ever used (Indexed files still don't exist anywhere else).
Then I used Atari 400s and 800s, the Vic-20, TRS-80, and Commodore 64.
I owned a vic-20 briefly (by which I mean about 2 weeks) then got a c-64!
c64 was the best personal computer ever! really. gdamn it was fun hacking those!
the Amiga is another system I used, but didn't own until much later.
Commodore made the best systems of those times.
but still, VMS rules
No, seriously, why?
And do you really expect us to "buy" the BS DRM crapola in Vista?
Surely, you can't be serious!
How will Microsoft feel when Vista comes out and flops and Linux wipes the floor with it?
who's the moron that marked this redundant?
How is it redundant?
it's a serious question, on a serious topic.
there have been no answers to this.
so to the asshat that marked it down, get a clue!
So seriously how long does it take?
I am really serious in getting into this field.
because it seems like an incredibly lucrative business!!!
seriously!
so is there a fast-track to this? or something?
mail-order/web learning, anything?
the limited labor working in the plant is still cheaper in China.
Labor to build the fab is cheaper in China.
Materials to build the fab are also cheaper.
Office costs and other costs are also cheaper.
Everything else being equal, China still wins.
And China already manufacturers just about everything else.
Go ahead, pick up a random object in your house/apartment/basement/etc
see the little sticker? yeah "Made in China"...
And that goes for electronics and computer goods too. (the majority anyhow)
However, Sony will still be first to market with Blu-Ray,
included in the PS3, several months before Microsofts crap goes to market, and probably before all the DRM crap gets settled too...
So, imagine this - Sony ships the PS3 with Blu-Ray. A drive that doesn't have the ratified DRM bullshit.
All this content and stuff comes out for PS3, all on Blu-Ray.
Sony starts (or already) on movies shipping on Blu-Ray disks too.
And of course Sun is behind them too, and I can imagine AMD being part of this group. So all the AMD backers, and Sun supporters and Sony supports all start supporting and shipping Blu-Ray content.
And.... any computer techie worth his salt will be getting a blu-ray drive for their machines, and media. All 3rd party PS3 developers doing work on Blu-ray as well...
All MONTHS before M$ and their ilk get to market, and likely before the DRM crap is settled. So it means that M$'s bolstering really amounts to squat.
Vista only supports HD? Who cares! Run something else. PS3 is Linux. get with the program. Users can stick with XP Pro, or whatever, and probably have no problems with blu-ray at all.
First to market = First to rule! Sony will win, they'll be out there, established, and it'll be far far too late for M$ to do anything.
M$ is just trying to pre-empt the launch, but too bad, so sad. It wont help.
Watch as it unfolds, blu-ray will be everywhere.
I've made the corrections for you-
Microsoft's Yates said that OpenDocument and Open XML come from very different marketing objectives. 'In the future at some point there will be convergence to Microsofts products,' he said. In the near term, the transition period from actual open standards document formats to Microsoft proprietary Open XML-based ones will be 'messy and complex,' he added. 'Competition between standards we believe is a very good thing, as long as Microsoft ends up owning them and getting the royalties.'"
2006 is already out.
2007 should be out in Sept of 2006. But then, 2006 was supposed to be out in sept this year and was delayed for no reason.
(actually they wanted to launch all the 2006 products at the same time - which artificially delayed some of the products).
BTW - 2006 version really sucks, they've taken features out that were really handy, and it's SLOOOW as freaking heck. and the system tray thingy is annoying
I've gone to NOD32 and suggest you do too... Symantecs time is over...
So are we going to see a real-life Boston tea party all over again?
Are we going to (hopefully) see thousands of people throwing boxes of Microsoft products into the harbor?
Who can organize this and when can we have the party?
(I'm serious!)
and bring your x-box 360s too!
Whatever happened to IPV8 stuff?
It would have solved all these issues. totally.
where is it now?
you're full of crap.
there are MILLIONS of programs, you can download a single binary, on linux, unpack it, and run it. done and done. easy as pie.
there are another BILLION program you get the tar/gz, unpack it, configure, make, and run. Hey, it's open source, you get the source. do what you want with it. Windows doesn't have this, so stop griping.
there are another BILLION rpms you can download, install, and run, no fuss, no muss. just like your supposed windows install. uhm, except in windows its "ok, yes, next, next, next, next, next, NEXT, OK ALREADY JUST F-ING INSTALL ALREADY!, yes, yes, yes, next, next. AUGH!!!!"
with rpms its install. done. run. whew, that was hard (not!)
With SUSE, use YAST, my god its hard to use (ahahahaha! not!)
or with SUSE you can use apt-get or yum or whatever else you want to use.
There is WAY more software for linux out there than windows. oh yes there is, take a look at sourceforge, freshmeat, and the mother of ALL places - SimTelNet! there are probably billions of programs on SimTel... probably the worlds oldest and longest running archive anywhere.
I dunno, to me, windows is inept. its slow, flaky, crash-prone, and has no ends of headaches. where as unix systems just plain work.
Nope...
I mean what I said, "double kernel panic", not "fault".
a real kernel panic, I have seen before.
but before BSD, never ever did I ever see a "double kernel panic".
I wrote down the text, and kept it some place, not sure I have it any more.
but like you say, a kernel panic while handling a kernel panic.
yes, the screen actually said "double kernel..." ah never mind, you pro-bsdites dont care...