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Google to Launch Free Mail Service?
prostoalex writes "The New York Times article on Yahoo and Terry Semel's management (soul stealing form required) mentions Google preparing "to offer a free e-mail service, people close to the company said, in a bid for Yahoo's most important source of loyal customers"."
$ whois googlemail.com
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Registrant:
Google Inc.
(DOM-302458)
2400 E. Bayshore Pkwy Mountain View
CA
94043 US
Domain Name: googlemail.com
Registrar Name: Alldomains.com
Registrar Whois: whois.alldomains.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.alldomains.com
Administrative Contact:
DNS Admin
(NIC-1467103)
Google Inc.
2400 E. Bayshore Pkwy Mountain View
CA
94043 US
dns-admin@google.com +1.6503300100 Fax- +1.6506188571
Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
DNS Admin
(NIC-1467103)
Google Inc.
2400 E. Bayshore Pkwy Mountain View
CA
94043 US
dns-admin@google.com +1.6503300100 Fax- +1.6506188571
Created on..............: 2001-Jul-18.
Expires on..............: 2005-Jul-18.
Record last updated on..: 2003-Dec-30 15:39:37.
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.GOOGLE.COM 216.239.32.10
NS2.GOOGLE.COM 216.239.34.10
NS3.GOOGLE.COM 216.239.36.10
NS4.GOOGLE.COM 216.239.38.10
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Google Eyes New Email Service, Expansion on Monday January 19, @04:02PM
Posted by simoniker on Monday January 19, @04:02PM
from the ultimate-internet-moogles dept.
GillBates0 writes "According to a CNN/Reuters story, Google is developing a service to attach its lucrative keyword-based advertising to email: ''I'm sure Google is getting more and more concerned about locking in users. It wouldn't surprise me if they did something very sophisticated with e-mail,' said Danny Sullivan, editor of SearchEngineWatch.com, who tracks the industry.' Apparently, Google has purchased an e-mail management software maker and registered the domain name googlemail.com. The article also speculates that Google is slowly on the way to becoming a full-fledged portal, with the gradual addition of more and more portal-like features like Froogle."
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If you have a fairly advanced toolset of software knowledge, you can download YahooPOPs! over on the SoresForge page.
What is it? Well, YahooPOPs! is an open-source initiative to provide free POP3 and SMTP access to Yahoo! E-mail accounts. It works in both Windoze and Unix.
What it does is emulate a POP3/SMTP server and enables popular email clients like Outlook, Netscape, Eudora, Mozilla, IncrediMail, Calypso, etc., to DOWNLOAD AND SEND emails from Yahoo! accounts.
It's amazing, bro. I had NO idea it'd even work. I had to download it to believe it. There are also other similar programs out there for MSN, Lycos, etc.
No self-respecting webmail user should be WITHOUT it.
Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate. Ex-O'Reilly/MIT employee, now a full-time Google employee.
Here ya go. (The same article is also available in The Ledger)
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There's an interesting interview with Google co-founder Sergei Brin about the future of google advertising.
Google would want a UI that humans can understand.
:^) Google Keyboard Shortcuts has a UI similar to Vi's. None of that control and meta Emacs nonsense.
You mean like Vi?
I use alltheweb when not using google. Between those two I generally find what I want.
Alltheweb is a bit more international than google (I believe its hosted in Europe somewhere) and is owned by Overture who sells google lots of search info.
About us page here.
They also seem to have a knack for lowering the importance of weblogs, which seems to be a big issue with some people nowadays.
Yahoo's search page is also pretty simple, but probably not what people generally think of using when searching with Yahoo.
Maybe that's just a question of priorities - which set of features gets on the 'front' page. So long as Google keeps its front page the simple one, that probably won't be an issue.
Corporation, n. An ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without individual responsibility. - Ambrose Bierce
AltaVista already has (and had for some time now) this feature
You know, if you use syntax, you nearly always get what you are after on google.
:)
Instead of typing:
K8NNXP motherboard reviews
(for example)
type:
"motherboard" +K8NNXP +review
You will be sure to get a result from that
That's totally false. The CEO you mention is Eric Schmidt, who has a PhD in computer science and is the author of Lex, the automatic scanner generator. The founders still hold controlling interest in the stock. Google is the most engineering-driven company you're likely to come across.
I agree, but Google isn't very relevant anymore regaring searches.
I still use it but if the search doesn't get a good hit within two pages I switch to Teoma which usually has the relevant information on the first page.
Everything you've stated above as being positive Google attributes also apply to Teoma.
Google has crossed the line when it's core service which is to provide relevant search results and it's need to sustain itself economically are at odds with one another.
I don't want a new Hundai every other year I want a new Porsche every year is the attitude I see displayed by Google and it shows in the search results. In their efforts to raise the bottom line they have lost site of the bottom line.
I just searched "motherboard reviews" on google and about 9 out of 10 links it came up with DID take me to actual reviews, so I am not sure what your complaint here is. I am hearing more and more people trash google for having too many ads and not enough content but I have personally not once found this to be a problem on google. I always find what I want pretty damn quick there.
Ok, I'm a software developer, I've got a bookshelf full of cryptography books and one lying at my bedside. But... until a mail client or webmail service makes encrypted email just as easy as regular email it's not worth my time.
By "easy" I mean that I should literally have to do nothing to use it. If I have to create a keypair it should be when I sign up, and I shouldn't have to ever need to think about it again. I should have a "send encrypted" button beside the "send" button or a preference. I shouldn't have to get my friends to mail me their public keys, the service/client should obtain them automatically somehow. Essentially I shouldn't have to do a single thing more difficult than today's webmail services.
I really don't have anything top secret enough to say to my friends that I would find value in encrypted mail. The huge inconvenience that is the current state of encrypted mail just isn't worth it to me... and it definitely won't be to my mum, or non-tech friends.
However, if someone can do encrypted mail without any added inconveniences, I will be the first to sign up.
Actually, Google already has a lot of extra services here. But like you, no matter how many new services they offer, I do hope they keep the front page clean and minimal as it is now.
They also seem to have a knack for lowering the importance of weblogs, which seems to be a big issue with some people nowadays.
Here's a simple way to get most blogs out of your results in google or any other search engine (personally I use Gigablast as my primary):
Type search query plus "-blog"
Et voila!
Of course it can't help it if some pages are ranked high because they are linked from blogs, but I don't think that anything from the user-side can change that.
Treehugger? Treehugger... Treehugger!
The way it works (I believe!) is that once you've done your search, all of the search result hyperlinks go through a redirect on google.com.
v =2/SID =e/l=WS1/R=1/H=0/MI=other/*-http://rdre1.yahoo.com /click?u=http://www.slashdot.org/&y=028A85020D5FD4 C2&i=482&c=8540&q=02%5ESSHPM%5BL7ls~lw%7Bpk6&e=utf -8&r=0&d=wow-en-us&n=E9D45H3DU8S41MO9&s=1306&t=&m= 4038FB5A&x=01914BFE9E6908BB"
That is how Yahoo! seems to work, but not Google. For example, if I search for "Slashdot" on Google, I get this as the first link (right-click, copy link location):
"http://slashdot.org/"
in Yahoo!, I get:
"http://rds.yahoo.com/S=2766679/K=slashdot/
When Yahoo! started doing that is when I stopped using Yahoo.
From looking at these results, I don't think Google really has any idea what links I selected.
Yeah, it happens on Google, just not as cluttered.
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Taken from a search for Slashdot:
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Google File System paper
According to a friend of a friend (I know, I know), Google email will place targeted advertisements in the email based on the content of the email! They plan to convince everyone that the data will not be kept, stored, or used after the ad has been placed. Why would people choose google over yahoo, hotmail, etc? They are offering 1GB of storage for free! Yes, one gigabyte for every user.
It would only be a GPL violation if they distributed the binaries for their Google OS without the source code. Since Google OS is only used internally at Google (as far as I know), then they are not in violation of the GPL.
Still, it would be pretty neat to see Google OS if you ask me.