Slashdot Mirror


Remember The Heathkit HERO? Check Out '912'

moorley writes "The 912 Mobile Platform built by White Box Robotics based on VIA motherboards as part of their PC Bots program. Still in prototype but they are projecting to have it out by Summer 2004. They have no prices yet, but estimate 'building or buying the 912 for about the cost of a decent PC.'"

40 of 143 comments (clear)

  1. Next year... by soapbox · · Score: 5, Funny

    And the Rev. B "security" models will contain combat programs to rid your business of unwanted Time Lords, just like real Daleks... Exterminate! Exterminate!

  2. What the hell is that? by MikeCapone · · Score: 2, Funny

    This sure wouldn't fit anywhere in my house.

    No that I'm big on interior decoration, but still. Ew.

    1. Re:What the hell is that? by JUSTONEMORELATTE · · Score: 5, Funny

      And this is just plain disturbing.

  3. ....a GIRL robot! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Is there an add-on kit so I can use this to complete my dream of building a robot.....a GIRL robot/

  4. But, uh, what is it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    This is Slashdot, do you expect me to click links?

  5. I'd like it medium-brown, please by Deraj+DeZine · · Score: 5, Funny

    So this thing is a toaster, correct? Will it finally solve the problem that is switching between toast and Pop-Tarts? I don't want to give either of these delicious foods up and I don't have space in my dorm for two toasters set to different levels.

    --
    True story.
    1. Re:I'd like it medium-brown, please by Lussarn · · Score: 3, Funny

      I think it looks like some form of star wars imperial toilet.

  6. Great..... by flewp · · Score: 5, Funny

    The "HMV" patrols your home or office, recording any disturbances and e-mailing your PC, cell phone, or even the authorities!

    Great, so by the time you check your email the intruders are already gone and have your TV, jewelry and other valuables.

    --
    WWJD.... for a Klondike bar?
    1. Re:Great..... by xSquaredAdmin · · Score: 3, Funny

      Great, so by the time you check your email the intruders are already gone and have your TV, jewelry and other valuables. Don't forget abouth the HMV.

      --
      Crushing dreams at the speed of sarcasm
    2. Re:Great..... by Fooby · · Score: 5, Funny

      Not to mention a really cool robot.

    3. Re:Great..... by Dark+Lord+Seth · · Score: 2, Funny

      Just wait until someone starts modding these babies. Expect dual machine guns, reactive armour, phosphor mortars, gatling cannon, TOW missiles , flashbangs and a katana. It won't email the fact there is a burglar, anymore. Instead, it will ask what to do with the body ( or what remains of it )...

  7. Useful purpose? by CowboyNick · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Other than looking like C3P0 and R2D2's bastard child, what exactly are these for?

    --
    -CowboyNick
    1. Re:Useful purpose? by Deraj+DeZine · · Score: 2, Funny
      R2D2's bastard child

      And all those Star Wars fans have convinced themselves that the slot in R2D2 was designed to hold a light saber...

      --
      True story.
  8. Um ... by rholliday · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Because I really need to hug my DVD player ...

    Wait a sec. "The 912 "MP3" also features fighter jet technology "video glasses" to view e-mails ..."
    Ignoring the "fighter jet video glasses" for a second, isn't this some sort of jwz corollary? All home appliances expand until they can read e-mail.

    --
    Xbox reviews.. We think they're funny.
    1. Re:Um ... by tunabomber · · Score: 3, Funny
      "The 912 "MP3" also features fighter jet technology "video glasses" ...

      Not only that, It runs windows! Never has


      unhandled exception at B7C8 E78A CF89 58CB 3EAB 7E71

      press ctrl-alt-delete to restart your computer


      looked so good as when it's projected in 3D stereo onto a virtual display that's blocking your vision! The Blue Glasses of Death really should have been a feature on the security robot... Much more effective at scaring off crooks than running over their toes repeatedly.
      --

      pi = 3.141592653589793helpimtrappedinauniversefactory71 ...
    2. Re:Um ... by terrab0t · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah, maybe I'm not seeing the logic of this setup either: "The robot is running Windows XP Home as an operating system and robot control software from Evolution Robotics."

      So basically, they gave it a reason to kill itself, and the ability to do so. I hope that's covered in the warranty.

  9. HMV.. by bishiraver · · Score: 4, Funny

    Cause, as we all know, large grills (Especially on robots) make them more durable.

  10. pricing info by morcheeba · · Score: 3, Informative

    Their pre-order page says "Estimated retail cost on a "bare bones" platform should fall between $599 to $699."

    1. Re:pricing info by irokitt · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hey, that's the cost of a SCO license. Wait, they didn't, did they?

      --
      If my answers frighten you, stop asking scary questions.
  11. virtually unstoppable? by tsunamifirestorm · · Score: 4, Funny

    it looks like all you have to do to stop these is to tip the thing over. The other question... what would an intruder actually have to stop it from doing? running into its legs?

    1. Re:virtually unstoppable? by youngerpants · · Score: 4, Informative

      They have motion detectors, every time it detects motion it emails a pic/ video to your account.

      Having a few of these patroling a warehouse, for example, would be a nice addition to any security system (as well as being exceptionally cool)

    2. Re:virtually unstoppable? by Mr2cents · · Score: 5, Funny

      I think the pseudocode goes something like this:

      while not intruder_is_dead
      move_to_intruder
      eject
      eject -t
      done

      --
      "It's too bad that stupidity isn't painful." - Anton LaVey
    3. Re:virtually unstoppable? by Patrik_AKA_RedX · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Didn't you learn anything from Robot Wars?

      Add circular saw to it. And some sound effects.
      Just imagine such a bot drive after you with a the saw blade spinning, while its robotic voice says things like "destroy all humans", "resistance is futile", "Kill the lifeform"...
      Guess that'll keep the kids out of crime.

  12. Always wanted a HERO by oozer · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wow, this story brings back a few memories. That HERO robot was the coolest thing I'd ever seen when I was a kid. I remember there was an episode of that "whiz kids" show where they built one. Of course I've never seen one in real life so don't anyone shatter my dreams!

  13. Re:features? by Deraj+DeZine · · Score: 5, Funny
    what kind of AI does it have

    Have you ever played System Shock 2? I imagine that it will be something like that.

    --
    True story.
  14. One thing missing: Manipulators by Chairboy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A robot needs to be more then a computer on wheels. The essence of what makes a robot neat is the idea that it can interact with its surroundings.

    For this to be really fantastic, it needs an arm, and by arm I mean something better than a piece of plastic with a cupholder on the end of it.

    For something really interesting, offer to put a mounting point on the front for an arm to attach to and an industry standard servo controller. Total investment, $100, and now your users can build their own arm. This is assuming that the company doesn't have the expertise to make the arms themselves.

  15. Overkill??? by John+Seminal · · Score: 3, Informative
    Why do you need the big x86 processors? Is the robot going to be able to have complex thinking algorithms?

    I would probably start with some very cheap circuits. You can program them to do simple movements or simple lcd displays. If you want a "brain", you could add it on. Most of these circuits can be connected to by a serial cable.

    If anyone is interested, there is a ton of information here: http://www.rentron.com

    --

    Rosco: "If brains were gunpowder, Enos couldn't blow his nose."

    1. Re:Overkill??? by Rick.C · · Score: 2, Informative
      These little guys look like they would work well for controlling motors and sensors. Much more bang than a Basic Stamp (tm). And they're small enough and cheap enough to stick 'em in wherever you need 'em.

      Some models have built-in ethernet.

      --
      You were 80% angel, 10% demon. The rest was hard to explain. - Over The Rhine
      "Math in a song is good."-Linford
  16. Re:Virus? by rholliday · · Score: 2, Funny

    "I'm sorry Dave, a can't do that. Would you like to download a naked picture of Anna Kournikova?"

    --
    Xbox reviews.. We think they're funny.
  17. Re:Hmm, does it have interface for vacuum cleaner by grub · · Score: 3, Funny


    If it can move around a vacuum cleaner it would be of some use..

    The least /.'ers can do is vacuum the basement themselves. After all, their parents let them live there rent free.

    --
    Trolling is a art,
  18. Re:features? by kfg · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's a PC with wheels and sensors. Which is why it will cost about as much as a PC.

    It's as fully programmable as any PC, which means you can make an 802.11g beowulf cluster that will chase the cat around the house.

    Obviously the big thing here is the propriatary AI programing, so I can't tell you anthing about that, but other than that you could whip one of these things up yourself for a few hundreds of dollars of used parts.

    The "other than that" clause is a biggy though, if you don't have a few years to dick with AI software.

    If you do you'll have more fun building one than buying it anyway, but already know that.

    KFG

  19. A Heatkit what? by scattol · · Score: 3, Funny

    A now that I see what the Robot looks like, I vaguely remember it. Looks cool but just the computer would have been enough. And I don't remember goot girls hanging around with kit robots either. That photo is mesleading!

  20. Re:Hmm, does it have interface for vacuum cleaner by XipX · · Score: 2, Funny

    Looks like I got the short stick. I have to pay my parents!

  21. Correct the grammar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2
    "The 912 Mobile Platform built by White Box Robotics based on VIA motherboards as part of their PC Bots program."

    That's not a sentence you retard, it just might work with a verb.

    1. Re:Correct the grammar by Patrik_AKA_RedX · · Score: 3, Funny

      How do you mean "correct the grammar". That sentence is perfectly correct Engrish.

  22. Self-portable PC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's a Banana Jr! Will it worship the TV?

  23. Educational Buyers beware.. by t0qer · · Score: 3, Funny

    I went to CCOC for a brief stint in my education for an electronics class. Our lab had 2 Hero's in it.

    This was around 1989, 1990. I'm not sure if anyone else had battled robots before (maybe japanese anime?) but one day we when the teacher went out for a phone call we got it in our heads to arm the Hero's grip arm with hammers, and have gladitorial style combat.

    By the time the teacher got back one Hero drove victory circles around the disabled hero. Couldn't warrenty the thing because of physical damage, so the teacher locked both hero's up in a closet for the rest of the semester.

    Just a warning.. Geek teenagers + 2 > Robots - Teachers Presence = destruction.

  24. FAQ List by katchins · · Score: 3, Funny

    I can see the FAQ list for this robot...
    1) How often should I perform "Windows Update"
    to get the service packs required to keep
    my robot "functional"?
    2) What happens when my robot crashes? Will
    it shoot me or commit suicide?
    3) What brand of Virus Scanner Software is
    compatible for my robot? Also how often
    should I update the Virus Software?
    4) How ofter should I change the
    "administrator" password?
    5) Can I reformat and install Linux?

    --
    if (!sig) { printf("Signature Unavailable\n"); }
  25. Did Anyone notice... by ghost1911 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The price? $599-699 for preorders. That's cheaper than an AIBO...

    --
    .: 2+2 = PI SQRT(1+N) :. All together now, what is n?
  26. High Value, Not Overkill by OrangeTide · · Score: 2, Informative
    a VIA EPIA 800V can be had for $100 now. about the only thing that can be that is an AVR kit. (which can be had for about $35 for a dev board and $10 for a cable to program it. then download a free compiler/assembler. and $30 for a book on how to program AVR. so that's $75).

    Also that rentron company doesn't sell very interesting stuff.
    Build your own AVR starter kit is going to be a better price than any PICbasic thing and you can program it in C, asm or basic.

    Basic Stamp is extremely weak. A robot desigened around a basic stamp is going to be as primative as your first LOGO program. (Turn left here.. weee).

    A VIA C3 800 board, despite being an ugly evil x86 is going to have some serious power behind it. You can then have some of the following features on your system:
    • USB camera to record events
    • some face tracking abilities(neat!)
    • A wireless (bluetooth or 802.11b) connection between other robots for cooprative tasks(soccor match anyone?)
    • Voice synthizier (just grab rsynth)
    • enough RAM to do accurate mapping
    • inexpensive to connect a GPS unit up to USB or serial (often these units have a built-in electronic compass as a bonus)


    The processing power, expandability and cost make the x86 an ideal canidate for a robot like this. Of course a cheaper robot becomes attractive when you want to have multiple robots that communicate. Really the average budget for a hobbot robot project runs around $1000. So if you drop $700 on this chassis and a motherboard you're set. If make AVR or PIC based robots that cost $50 to build you would probably build like 4 or 5 of them and have them work together. (or worse, build 4 or 5 revision until you were satisfied with it and have three robots that don't really work very well and one good one)
    --
    “Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire