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New HP Drive Lets You Burn Your Own Label
way2trivial writes "Wow -- remember Yamaha's DiscT@2? now HP has a invention to use the DVD laser to etch the flip side of CDs and DVDs. I own a nice Epson to print on CD-R/DVD-Rs, it does full color -- but this looks impressive as hell, even if it is in monochrome"
Cool idea...
Only downside it seems is that you cannot use normal CDs. You have to use CDs which can actually are designed to allow this 'burning' on the flipside...
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The real leap forward will occur when this is built into camcorders and other media recording devices. The whole idea behind connecting the camera to a computer just so you can save the data on a disc that won't be played on a computer anyway, not to mention printing labels for the disc, is crazy and redundant. Though it is a necessary stopgap until we get these technologies into the cameras, the computer is just another barrier to the development of user-created media.
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It's just thermal printing with another twist. The good news is that there are no ink cartridges to replace. The bad news is that the paper is _really_ expensive.
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I don't need new tech and new burnable media to keep doing that.
Yeah, because we all know video editing on a tiny little camcorder would be so easy and user friend. I can't wait to put a custom title on my movie, that'll be fun to type it.
if you look closely at a burned CDR, you will notice that there's a visible difference between written an non-written parts of the surface. In other words 0's look different then 1's. I always planned to write an app to take advantage of this in order to burn images to a disc surface (just normal CDRs, without burning any useful data to it, of course), but never got around to really investigate this thoroughly.
because they are giving a new lease of life to an already saturated market; i'm happy with my 32x burner and would not have thought of investing in another cd-burner... and would have upgraded to a dvd-burner whenever i could afford one... but now.. I'll HAVE to consider this... :D
:p how long would it take to burn a full gfx rich label?
we'll have happy cd-writer manufacturers, happy cd-manufacturers, happy geeks and very happy software pirates
I missed this detail, but what speed does it burn the label at?
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HP sure may have given up true innovation years ago, such as servers, processors and operating systems, but it's reassuring to know that they can churn out cheap marketing tricks like this to please the Great Unwashed. Well done HP.
Stick Men
the problem with regular CDRs is that if you bang them around enough the silver stuff (what the data is burned to) flakes off because it's not encased in the plastic. Those glue on labels help to weaken it. If you try to take a label off, chances are the data goes with it.
Presumably this new method has the label part manufactured on and not attached to the part of the CD the data is written to. Or it's a second layer that more painted on than glued on. However it's done, it's probably much more sound manufacturing than putting a sticker on a CD.
Ben
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I can't imagine any better way to produce a professional looking CD than with technology like this. Sure it is no better than a sharpie for home users, but for people who burn demo CDs or sell software online and want to make it look professional, this is about as good as it gets.
Um, this is basically the same as what we have now on the data side.
All they need to do is use a different dye that turns darker than the one on the bottom.
An with a number of things in the real world CR-Writers with LightScribe technology and the special CDs are obviously prone to the chicken or egg syndrome
The special CDs won't become popular until the special CD Writers become common and the CD Writers won't become common until the special CDs become common enough...
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You can of course buy printable CDs and DVDs and use a printer like the one I use which is an ezcd4200 it costs me about 12 extra per cd or dvd but I do get full colour with it. Oh and if you are going to do any volume remeber to buy a continuous flow system for your pritner. In fact here is a tutorial I found on hacking your own CFS System
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This is a great little feature. Not that I plan to burn great images on the disk. Rather, I plan to burn the contents of the disk - maybe just do an ls -lR | burnlabel. I don't use jewelcases for my CD's or DVD's. They take up too much space. I just keep them in sheets in a binder. The downside is, that the small slip of paper telling me what's on the disk has a limited life span (i.e. I lose it somewhere). This little gimmick will rid me of that problem by fixing the contents to the disk.
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With one of these, I could put OOo artwork on it and give it to people, making it look more professional.
Hmm... How about xmas cards with a personalized CD rather than a "our news for the year" paper blog letter?
I could see something as simple as good looking labeling acting as a trigger for a lot of home production work, with spin-offs into do-it-yourself audio/video production software. (And small gigs for people who do do-it-for-them work.) Most of it will be junk, but at least labelled nicely! :^)
One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
The real leap forward will occur when this is built into camcorders and other media recording devices.
Have you ever tried to edit video using a camcorder?
Trust me, you don't want to.
The whole idea behind connecting the camera to a computer just so you can save the data on a disc that won't be played on a computer anyway, not to mention printing labels for the disc, is crazy and redundant.
I guess that if you shoot the video just like you want it,down to the frame, you'll never have to edit it.
Though it is a necessary stopgap until we get these technologies into the cameras, the computer is just another barrier to the development of user-created media.
Until we have huge stores of flash memory and a psychokinetic UI, the computer is the best way to manage and prepare "user-created" content.
LK
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Any good (expensive) discs would have the reflective layer covered with plastic. TDK, Mitsui and what have you are some of the brands that make "regular CDRs" and believe me, the silver stuff doesn't flake off.
Remember who we are talking about-HP. Aka offshore outsourcing, firing Bruce Perens, selling half-full inkjet cartridges...I wouldn't buy anything from them in a million years.
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Somehow your joke was quite unfunny.
I don't think that problem applies here, because the CDs aren't so special that they're the *only* thing that works with this burner, or that they don't work in the 2 zillion CD players already out there.
The people considering buying this burner with its 'etching' ability aren't constrained by the decisions that other people make. This makes their decision all about value, and not about speculation.
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I don't know which is more depressing, that 2/3 didn't care enough to vote, or that 1/2 of those that did are crazy.