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Improving Terrible Handwriting?

green pizza asks: "My handwriting is horrible, an irregular mix of sloppy print and cursive. I know this, and my coworkers have learned to live with it, but I didn't realize just how bad my chickenscratch was until I tried using a tablet PC. Unlike a Palm which forced me to learn its input method, a tablet PC (and other humans) expect me to write a certain way. Aside from a handwriting class for professional adults on the other side of the country, I have only been able to find lessons and materials for the young, illiterate, or mentally challenged. Have any other geeks found a structured way to improve their handwriting?"

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  1. Use a keyboard by scotti · · Score: 4, Funny

    I use a keyboard. :)

  2. I'd laugh at you... by ambient · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...but, I'm in the same boat. My handwriting is really bad -- I often end up replacing whole sections of words with unitelligible scrawls.

    My Advice: Switch professions and become a doctor.

    1. Re:I'd laugh at you... by itwerx · · Score: 3, Insightful

      While it is true that the medical profession does have the shittiest handwriting there are actually several reasons for it.
      Number one is the curse of familiarity (maybe that should read cursive familiarity ? :).
      E.g. Take a look at your own signature. It looks like crap because you've written it a bazillion times and it's "good enough".
      Same thing happens when a doc writes the same dozen or so prescriptions day in and day out for years on end.
      The other major factor is that doctors are busy! Prescriptions are often written while standing, walking, or at some strange angle on the nearest convenient surface.
      But yeah, it would be nice if docs had forearm keyboards with wireless links or something...

  3. Practice, practice, practice! by WhatAmIDoingHere · · Score: 5, Informative

    I had terrible handwriting (Everybody said I should have been a doctor). I figured on trying to better my handwriting and found that writing through the alphabet over and over for a few weeks. After that, I did repetitive practice writing. Writing pages from books or whatever until you notice any improvement. It sure worked for me, but ymmv.

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  4. The Easy Answer by Melvin+Daniels · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Slow down. That's all. Just slow down and make your letters look extremely clear. Take great pride in your handwriting, and learn to appreciate it (once you develop it more).

    That's how I improved mine.

  5. Possible to it yourself method. by Photar · · Score: 3, Funny

    Since you haven't elaborated more on your writing problem I'll assume that you don't know the correct way to write ANY character.

    First I'd find one of those alphabet posters that they hang up in 1st grade class rooms that have the little arrows that point in the direction you're supposed to draw each stroke.

    Then I'd have lock myself in a room with some pens a ream of paper.

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  6. Use an old Newton OS 1.x Newton PDA by RevAaron · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My first PDA was a Newton OS 1.3 Original MessagePad that my girlfriend got me. Determined to use and love it, I used it for taking notes in class and programming [1], as well as playing some games.

    And of course, I had to use the handwriting recognition.

    Back then, HWR wasn't great. This is the whole "eat up martha" era- and indeed, that Newt was named "Martha." The only way to get decent (though still slow) HWR was for me to start printing cleanly. It improved my penmanship quite a bit.

    But then I lost it. Not a big deal, it only cost $50, picked up on eBay in '99. Then, I got a Newton MessagePad 2100- the real deal. A new HWR scheme, a much faster CPU and an overall much nicer unit. The HWR was a thousand times better, an still the best of anything I've ever used (and I've used it all). Alas, my better handwriting didn't last that long- after using the Newton 2100 for a couple years, my handwriting had devolved back to messy crap. But that wasn't a big deal, as the Newton had no problem interpreting it with 99%+ accuracy, allowing me to write a good 40-50 WPM in my crap-tastic handwriting.

    What the hell is my point? Get an old, crappy Newton. You can get them cheap. Try to use its HWR. Or, get a new, expensive Palm OS 5 device and install Decuma. I am using that these days... Nowhere near as nice as Newton HWR or even CalliGrapher/Transcriver on pocketPC/WinCE. My handwriting is slowly improving, being stuck with this inferior, but still kind of nice, input method. Only printing, and very clean printing at that.

    [1] That was one of the biggest reasons I decided on the Newton... It was completely programmable on the device itself, requiring no intervention, compilation or otherwise a toolchain on the desktop- unlike C++ on WinCE or C on PalmOS. You could write first-class NewtonScript apps on the Newton itself, even on one as gimpy as the OMP.

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  7. I don't understand... by perfectlynormalbeast · · Score: 3, Funny

    Do you not know what the letters are supposed to look like?

  8. It's not that hard... by avalys · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Just write a lot more, and write stuff where you can pay more attention to the form of your letters than actual content. Don't mess around with cursive, just print and blend your letters as appropriate.

    Spend half an hour a day (before you go to bed is good - it'll help you fall asleep, if you have trouble with that) transcribing the dictionary or something. I noticed an improvement in my writing after about two weeks.

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  9. buy a book by itwerx · · Score: 3, Funny

    Go to your favorite new or used bookstore and buy one of those first-grade hand-writing primers and practice!
    (I am so tempted to say "Duh!" :)

  10. Right Side of the Brain book by drivers · · Score: 4, Informative

    The book "The New Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain" by Betty Edwards has a chapter on handwriting, even though it is a book about drawing. BTW, I recommend the rest of the book to anyone as well. (especially if you think you "can't draw.")

  11. Yup... by cybermace5 · · Score: 3, Informative

    My handwriting sucks too. I really do intend to improve it though...and I have been.

    You can't do it by willing yourself to write better. You've transferred your letter-forming skills into your cerebellum already...you aren't even a conscious part of the letter-forming process anymore. You had to go back to the basics: back to penmanship. There is no way around this other than to practice and unlearn your poor penmanship.

    Roll back the clock to first grade. Now, here's some good material:
    D'Nealian Practice Pages

    Remember to scroll down that page to the manuscript pages with guides. Print those out and go to town. Fill up a set of those pages every day, and your handwriting WILL improve.

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  12. just adapt... by 1isp_hax0r · · Score: 3, Insightful

    My handwriting is pretty horrible too. Since I finished university recently and started working, my handwriting has gone progressively worse. But I don't have to worry about it because the reasons my handwriting has got so bad, namely the use of technology, is also helping me to avoid writing! Why write? Apart from some rare instances, there is hardly ever a need to use a pen or a pencil. At least this is true for me.

    The tablet has the writing interface for those paper dependent people who have a tough time dealing with a keyboard. It doesn't sound like something that is right for you. (I assume that your handwriting is bad because of the overuse of keyboards.)

    Basically what I want to say is that maybe the reason us geeks have such bad handwriting is because the technology has shown us new and better methods of writing. It can be seen as evolution towards a better form of written communication (and this one has a backspace key!). So instead of worrying about something that you are automatically rejecting (the handwriting), embrace the typing and work on improving upon the new methods of written communication.

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  13. Strange Hand Choices by watashiwananashidesu · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I don't know if this works for people of other hand-usages, but I know what I did to improve my handwriting...

    For the record, I'm a left-handed-to-ambidextrous individual, and ever since I was a child I've had trouble with handwriting--I'm infamous at my high school for it. I typically write left handed and do anything athletic right handed--the opposite of what you'd expect, as my left arm is much stronger. And I've discovered something fun...

    Whenever I'm writing slowly, as long as I'm writing in big text, my right-handed handwriting is better than my left.

    I can't write very fast right-handed--I'm more of a lefty than a righty, though I am technically ambidextrous. And if I try to write quickly with my right, it's more illegible than my left. But aside from some awkward numbers, my right is neater for slowly-written stuff.

    And practice does make perfect. At first my right-handed handwriting looked like that of a very neat child (and I didn't start practicing with the right until about two years ago), but now, as long as I go slowly, it looks almost like my peers'.

    So, you might want to try the old switcheroo. Just remember--most objects in our culture are right-handed, so you'll probably have better luck with this if you're a lefty than a righty.

  14. Take up calligraphy... by sudog · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...and learn to slow your handwriting down.

    Calligraphy can be tremendously rewarding. Usually simple letters of the alphabet aren't considered works of art, but write them in calligraphy and suddenly everyone wants to hang the quips and quotes you scribble, all over their homes!

    This will teach you the practice and patience and dexterity you need to improve your normal handwriting also.

    It's not hard, it just takes endless practice.

    And, even though some of those books are for children, they do have the outlined strokes you need to cleanly (and slowly) learn the forms.

  15. Take up Calligraphy....and buy a better pen/stylus by No+One's+Zero · · Score: 5, Informative

    Seriously,

    I had this same problem and thses two things helped me more than anything else.

    First try writing with a couple of differant pen types. Most people will find that they print much better with a certain type of pen; felt tip, ball point, microball etc. Find one you like. Also like swords, weight and balance are important. The same goes for stylii.

    Then go get yourself a calligraphy book and a proper caligraphy pen. (the type with the metal tip) To use such a pen you have to always pull the tip across the paper down, or sidewise, but not up. This will teach you to slow down, and plan each pen stroke (or you will ruin a bunch of tips).

    It is more or less impossible to write properly in cursive using a proper caligraphy pen because of the fact that you cant draw strokes "upwards." But i've noticed that most handwriting rec software seems to take print better anyway.

    Also if the software is halfway decent and learns, the fact that you draw each letter the same way each time should help the rec quite alot.

    NOZ

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  16. Re:Take up Calligraphy....and buy a better pen/sty by No+One's+Zero · · Score: 3, Funny

    Forgot to add you don't feel like such a goober practicing "Calligraphy" and women love a nicely handwritten letter more than diamonds i think.

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  17. Force Yourself To Slow Down by miyako · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I used to have the same problem. I failed tests and even lost a job because my handwriting was completely unreadable. What I finally realized was that my handwriting improved drastically (to the point where people would actually compliment me on my penmenship) if I just slowed down and paid attention to the actual letters I was writing. I know that this sounds like obvious advice, but it is something that you really have to be mindful of because most people have a tendancy to just start writing.
    Another thing that may help is to try different grips on the pencil. As children we have it drilled into our heads that you HAVE to hold the pencil gripped between your thumb and index finger only, I've found that for me at least my writing and drawing as well is orders of magnintude better when the pencil or pen is gripped between my thumb and my index and middle fingers.

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    1. Re:Force Yourself To Slow Down by Brad+Siemssen · · Score: 3, Informative
      Yes SLOW DOWN!!!

      I used to have terrible handwriting. At one point I decided to fix that, and started printing everything, very slowly. Now I am complimented on my neat penmanship.

      I found I need to focus on two things, the first is to slow down enough that I do write well. Second, get all the extra help for pen control you can. There are environmental factors that make handwriting bad, eliminate those.

      What I found to work for me is:

      • SLOW DOWN
      • Print everything, when that is working well, move to cursive.
      • Always have extra paper under what you are writing on. The paper provides padding that slows down the pen and keeps it easier to control, and keeps the texture of whatever you write on from messing up your text.
      • Keep the paper so it does not move. I use a clipboard all the time. The clip keeps the paper from moving.
      • When starting, only use a Bic Roundstick pen. These are the classic cheap ball point pen, with very slow, but reliable ink flow. You do not want a liquid ink pen, or any of the "roller" ball types of pens. The ink flows way too fast in these "fancier" pens, which is great when your speed is up but causes blotting when you move the pen slowly.
      • If needed press hard. When I started I used two pieces of paper for every page I wrote. The top sheet would curl into a little scroll, and the it was possible to simply read the indentations left on the second sheet.
      • Use lined paper or graph paper for everything.

      As you get better you'll be able to lighten up on the pressure. When you can get neat writing with barely any pressure on the pen then you'll be able to get your speed up. At this time you'll also likely want to change to using a "gel" ink pen. Never go with a liquid ink pen, they'll blot if you move the pen to slow.
  18. Get a Journal by Goyuix · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'd like to echo many of the things said before with a couple tweaks of my own:

    Pens: I find that I usually write more messy with a pen than a pencil for some silly reason, so maybe you could see how your mileage varies there. Other than that, be sure to find a pen(cil) that fits your style, be it thick or thin. A comfortable utensil will help you write more legibly as well.

    I would recommend getting a journal to write in. That way you are able to spend at least a few minutes every night sorting out your thoughts, and there is obviously little pressure to hurry through it. Take time to write carefully and make your letters as consistent as possible and I think you will be surprised at the results.

    Really the only way to improve is like most tasks: You are just going to have to practice. Maybe a journal won't work for you and you need to find something else, but consistent practice is what is going to make the difference at the end of the day.

  19. Write big... by bluGill · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Write big. And print. Get a good pen (not expensive, most expensive pens are worse than medium priced ones) Its the only thing I've found that helps. If at all possible use the computer.

    Back in 6th grade my teachers got frustrated enough at my handwriting to comment to my parents on how lazy I was (New school, the old school didn't care), my parents defended me, I really did write that bad. A few months latter the school put me through a bunch of tests, and concluded that I really could not write neater. When I did my best I wrote like a second grader (this at the peak of my writing ability, in 7th grade reports were written on the computer so I didn't handwrite as much), barely achieving the neatness the others got when they didn't care. I guess my point is there might be physical issues that may be involved, if so you might not be able to do much.

  20. My suggestions: by sakusha · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Most important, find a good writing instrument. For general writing, I particularly suggest a good mechanical pencil, I like Japanese mechanical pencils like the Sanford LOGO II 0.5mm or the Y&C GRIP500. Also fountain pens are particularly nice, and bring back some of the pleasure of handwriting. I use the Lamy Joy, it has a flat nib for calligraphic handwriting, but the Lamy Safari is also good, it's better for quick writing because it has a round point (I recommend the medium, not the fine point). Also particularly useful for ink pen writing are those whiteout pens, they're sort of like highlighters but they lay down whiteout.

    Secondly, study a bit of calligraphy. You don't need to become a fine calligrapher, you just need to know a few methods to make your pen or pencil work for you, not against you. I recall seeing a news story about how a hospital set up a special handwriting class for doctors as a method to reduce errors on handwritten prescriptions. They were taught one simple italic script, it was easy to learn and is the simplest handwritten script. Grab a Speedball Book (available at any library or art store), it has all the basics of calligraphy. I don't know the exact title of the book, but every art store knows what a Speedball Book is.

  21. Humanistic Cursive by jpkunst · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I had the same problem with my handwriting being illegible, a couple of years ago. I felt that just trying to write slower wasn't the solution. I did something more radical: I switched handwriting styles. I found a great little book called Naar beter handschrift ("To better handwriting") from 1956. This book teaches you to write in a script that is closely based on 14th-century Italian writing, the so-called "Humanistic cursive". (See here for an example of original humanistic cursive.)

    Unlike our modern cursive handwriting, where you are supposed to write all the letter connected to each other (there is some kind of law "thou shalt not take the pen off the paper while writing", which is good for speed but not for legibility), you only connect letters when it makes sense in the humanistic cursive, and you are allowed to take the pen off the paper to draw better shapes for your letters. Example: the lower case r in modern cursive (at least the way that I learned it, in The Netherlands) is rather ugly, it's essentially an r written backwards (so that you won't have to take the pen off the paper while writing it). In the humanistic cursive, the lower case r looks much like a lower case printing letter r because you don't have to forcibly connect it to other letters. And it's much more readable that way.

    JP

    1. Re:Humanistic Cursive by fm6 · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Perhaps these old humanists were on to something...
      The story of this writing style is actually rather interesting. It seems that during the Italian Renaissance (fifteenth century), people discovered a lot of old manuscripts covered with really beautiful handwriting. They jumped to the conclusion that these documents had somehow survived from "Classical" civilization, which had died out a thousand years previously. The Renaissance was all about rejecting "Medieval" (that is, contemporary) culture in favor of Clasical. So people quickly abandoned other scripts in favor of this "Classical" script.

      Here's the punchline: the classical era never developed any really good scripts. Most books were generated by publishing houses staffed by slaves, who wrote everything in simple capital letters. Other documents were done in a variety of scripts, none of them very attractive or easy to read. Then during the middle ages, with the European economy in deep decline, people invented lower-case letters and cursive writing in order to reduce publishing costs. This culminated in a beautiful script called Caroline Miniscule. This "classical" script which the Renaissance humanists admired and and revived, had died out only a couple of centuries before!

      That's the Renaissance in a nutshell. They thought they were reviving an old culture, when they were really inventing a completely new one.

  22. book suggestion by solferino · · Score: 5, Informative

    I found Rosemary Sassoon's Teach yourself better handwriting very useful. It is specifically targeted at ppl who are trying to fix up their handwriting and not at child first time learners. Rosemary states in the book that very different approaches are required for these two different pedagogical needs.

    An interesting part of the book is where Rosemary addresses pen-grips and suggests a rather radical option of holding the pen between index and middle finger. I've switched over to this and enjoy it as I never felt comfortable with the oppositionary tension between index and thumb of the standard grip.

    Here is an addall link to the book (2nd edition) so you can compare prices.

    Here is a link to the book (1st edition - the one I used) on Amazon so you can check the reader reviews

    Here is a link to the publisher's page on the book (2nd edition)

    Here is a link to some information about the author Rosemary Sasson

  23. Visual Perception Therapy... by paploo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Bad hand writing is often linked to a visual perception problem. (Indeed, many different learning disabilities (like dyslexia), coordination problems, reading speed problems, depth perception problems, and the like, are being regrouped as visual perception problems.)

    There are good visual perception therapists out there who can help with these problems. My brother had *really* bad handwriting, and poor coordination. He went to vision therapy for a year and *really* improved. I had the same thing happen with my reading speed problems (I went from a 4th grade reading speed to better than a 12th grade speed in a year thanks to Dr. Melvin B. Fox).

    Unfortunately, the therapy is around US$5000. There are some software programs (that if you see the informercials for look like a hoax) that do some of the stuff that you do in vision therapy. Much of the rest of it could be done by acquiring some relatively cheap equipment, however, you need someone who knows what "exercises" to do in order to do it.

    Anyway, it probably isn't a viable option for you (the original poster), but it is worth noting on /. as I'm sure there are a lot of geeks out there who have dyslexia or coordination issues. The therapy *really* does work, and is worth your time, especially if you are young (teen).

  24. Finally! by InsaneCreator · · Score: 5, Funny

    the young, illiterate, or mentally challenged

    Someone actually created handwriting lessons for script kiddies?!? GR347!

  25. online lessons + practice by klaasvakie · · Score: 3, Informative

    Gunnlaugur SE Briem, the person who developed the typeface for the London Times has a lesson on writing italic. Actually his whole webpage is very worth reading.
    Here it is

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