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Contour Crafting - Extrude-a-House

lww writes "An article in New Scientist discusses the work of Behrokh Khoshnevis at the University of Southern California to design and build a fully automated robot that performs Contour Crafting, his name for a process to extrude successive layers of semi-fluid building mixtures like concrete to create entire structures. In the article, he says 'The goal is to be able to completely construct a one-story, 2000-square foot home on site, in one day and without using human hands.' by 2005. I'm pretty jazzed at the potential to construct buildings with highly curved/creative contours that would be impossible using current construction techniques."

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  1. Suburbia by shystershep · · Score: 5, Funny

    Boy, and I thought houses in housing developments were too cookie-cutter now.

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    1. Re:Suburbia by namidim · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The potential is to make them all completely different though. Just feed the robot a different model and you get a different house.

    2. Re:Suburbia by Mysticalfruit · · Score: 4, Funny

      Or it could go the other way. On your block everybodies house would be completely different.

      And that guy next door to you who has a house designed to look like a giant vagina is now reducing the resale value of your house...

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    3. Re:Suburbia by ackthpt · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Boy, and I thought houses in housing developments were too cookie-cutter now.

      What's to say they still will be? I find one of the worst trends in neighborhoods is houses that stand out (either they are ugly or make the rest look so). Can you imagine every house on the block looking like some artwork, worse, of different genres?

      "Turn left onto Cherryh Street and keep going until you get to the Picasso-blue-period ..."

      What's this do for builders? Go learn CNC so you can take the spec from the architect and put the house together? Hmm. Since distance could be removed from the equation, how about the architect does the programming, and he or she could be anywhere in the world...

      Honestly, it's interesting, but the coolest thing I saw was on Nova years ago, where some japanese company built modules which were hauled out on a flatbed truck lifted into place and bolted together. Pick out your house by the pieces and have it assembled in a day. Don't like a part? Have it swapped out for one you do like.

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    4. Re:Suburbia by El · · Score: 4, Funny

      And that guy next door to you who has a house designed to look like a giant vagina is now reducing the resale value of your house... Or increasing the property values, if you live in an area with a lot of geeks... especially if your own house is designed to look like a giant penis...

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    5. Re:Suburbia by Phurd+Phlegm · · Score: 4, Insightful
      It isn't the construction costs so much as the design costs that result in all the houses in a given development being identical (other that rotated 90 degrees, or mirrored).

      The rule of thumb is you should expect to spend 10 percent more if you're having an architect design your house. That means you'd add one percent if you made ten copies of each house. Many of said developments (generically, I call them hives) have only one to five different designs, so I wouldn't say the cost of design is in any way significant.

      The major costs as far as I know are materials, labor, and land. Oh, and profit. Eliminating much of the labor cost would be great, except the price of houses doesn't seem to go down. I suspect what you'd do is increase the cost of one of the other segments (profit, probably).

      Sure would be cool if you could getone of these gizmos from the Rent-All for the weekend and run up a new garage. I hope to see the site if it ever recovers....

    6. Re:Suburbia by decepty · · Score: 5, Funny

      it'd be funny in an earthquake... "look, the giant genitals are slamming together, we're fucked!"

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    7. Re:Suburbia by lpangelrob2 · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Interestingly enough, the designer of this building had that in mind. Didn't seem to affect retail values on Michigan Avenue very much. ;-)

    8. Re:Suburbia by Scaba · · Score: 4, Funny

      I think lpangelrob2 is right. If you notice, the designer of the building is A. Epstein, which is an anagram for "eat penis". Coincidence? I think not...

    9. Re:Suburbia by shadowbearer · · Score: 3, Funny

      2045: This house proudly built by NanoTech Industries Inc.

      2050: Union negotiations with the 10^20 member strong NanoBug Union are still underway. The NanoBug Union Collective has threatened complete disassociation of the entire world's building molecules unless their demands are met. :)

      SB

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    10. Re:Suburbia by phurley · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You are missing a rather important point, the cookie cutter developments are generally built by crews that know them - limiting building choices increases quality (hate to see what it would be like otherwise) and decreases cost.

      Don't forget the labor involved often does not speak english natively, so that increases the savings involved in training on five plans rather than 30.

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  2. Willlmmaaaa! by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Funny
    At last! Now I can build the house of my dreams!

    Now, all I have to do is get Fred out of the way...

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  3. Matt Helm strikes again by AtariAmarok · · Score: 3, Informative

    Matt Helm did this in 1967 in his movie with an inflatable bedroom.

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  4. Thats it by An-Unnecessarily-Lon · · Score: 5, Funny

    I am moving to Mars where they still build houses the old fashion way. Wait... what? ..... Aww crap

  5. One day? by IamGarageGuy+2 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This may be able to construct a house in one day, but I can't see getting this gadget set up in that time. This thing is huge!

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  6. Thank god. by pclminion · · Score: 4, Funny

    At first I read that as "Extrude-a-Horse." I was picturing some unfortunate horse being turned to goo as it was extruded through a small pinhole. Ick.

  7. Extrude, huh? by inertia187 · · Score: 4, Funny

    ex'trude v. ex'trud'ed, ex'trud'ing, ex'trudes
    v. tr. 1. To push or thrust out.

    Boy, the trolls are going to have a field day with this one.

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  8. A robot shat my house by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Would anyone ever be proud to say "a robot shat my home"? These things will likely replace trailer-houses: the Cletus Delroy's of the future can say "Hey Maw! We're movin' to a brand spankin' new droid-turd!"

  9. Dunno if the article says anything about it... by ciroknight · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But what about windows? Having really contoured surfaces dont do so well if you want to put in a window, custom glass costs a boat load....

    Not to mention they make awkward living spaces inside; it just seems that boxes work so much better in house design, although I would love curvature in the corner points in my rooms (a nice, soft, apple-like look).

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    1. Re:Dunno if the article says anything about it... by beacher · · Score: 4, Funny

      This is slashdot. Windows is a bad thing here

    2. Re:Dunno if the article says anything about it... by White+Shade · · Score: 3, Insightful

      curved corners are all well and good until you try to push your desk, bookshelf, bed or other boxy piece of furniture into the corner of your room... not all pieces of furniture (especially a bookshelf, for example) can have curvey edges in them, and you do limit your options to some extent ...

      curvey edges wouldn't do well on the floor/wall boundaries either, for the same reasons....

      curves are nice but they're not always practical.

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  10. I know a few strong guys who wouldn't like this by wizarddc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Try getting something like this pushed past the trade unions. You might wake up with a horse head under your sheets.

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  11. Yeah.... by cybermace5 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So it will only take a day to build a house, and with no human hands...but then, you still have to build a big gantry crane over the site, and set up the robot. This thing isn't going to do in-wall plumbing and electricity either. There would still be a LOT of work after the robot did its union minimum.

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  12. Make him a house he can't refuse by AtariAmarok · · Score: 4, Funny

    Try getting something like this pushed past the trade unions. You might wake up with a horse head under your sheets.

    Or during the night one of the house-crapping bots extrudes an entire 64-unit condo into your bedroom.

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    1. Re:Make him a house he can't refuse by cybermace5 · · Score: 3, Funny

      It can extrude some very stylish, custom concrete shoes.

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    2. Re:Make him a house he can't refuse by bugnuts · · Score: 4, Funny

      Or build a house AROUND your house, with no doors.

      I need to build me one of those buildings in "Cube".

  13. Command & Conquer by Libertarian_Geek · · Score: 3, Funny

    Put this on a flatbed truck, then give me a Tiberium Harvester, some Nod buggies, stealth tanks, and I'll be in business!

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  14. Oh yeah by mskfisher · · Score: 4, Informative
    Slashdotted.

    Fortunately, I downloaded the movies and made a BitTorrent version available:
    http://www.mskf.org/contourcrafting.torrent
    Enjoy.
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    1. Re:Oh yeah by mskfisher · · Score: 3, Informative
      And now, because my bandwidth limit hasn't been touched this month, I provide you with a mirror of the USC page:
      http://www.mskf.org/mirror/contour/
      w00t.
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  15. Practical only for smaller structures? by Lafe · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It looks like this sort of technology is actually targeted at just the "smaller" buildings, like houses.

    It would seem that this is because it is essentially a "print-a-house" device, which will be limited by the size of the "printer" as well as the type of materials that can be used for "ink." No steel buildings here, only ceramics, some plastics, or adobe-type products.

    One thing that struck me funny is that they cited "construction of structures on Moon and Mars" as a possible application, but I simply can't see how it'd be a better option than, say, inflatables.

  16. Good news/Bad news by unassimilatible · · Score: 5, Funny
    Good news: The printer is only $50

    Bad news: Ink cartriges are one miiiiiiiilllllon dollars! (Austin Powers voice).

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  17. Plumbing, electric, etc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This would be nice for a home with no infratructure. How does it tie in to sewer lines, electric grids, etc? This isn't even mentioning teh internal infrastructure - all teh 14guage wiring, the three way switches, the copper feed and pvc drain pipes, etc.

    Also, how does it get all the city bureaucrats on site in one day to do all the

    This sounds like the flying cars we were all promised.

    1. Re:Plumbing, electric, etc by og_sh0x · · Score: 4, Informative

      If you go to the technical paper, take a look at figures 5 and 8. Now a quote from page 3 of the same paper: Utility Conduits: As shown in Figure 5 utility conduits may be built into the walls of a building structure precisely as dictated by the CAD data. Sample sections made with CC and filled with concrete as shown in Figure 8 demonstrate this possibility.

    2. Re:Plumbing, electric, etc by cryptochrome · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The sewer lines, at least, could be directly built into the walls and slab. No pipes required!

      Uh, I'm not so sure that's a good idea. Certainly not for concrete and adobe, which are both porous to a degree. And aside from that, I'd really feel better if my sewage was passing through a completely separate system.

      Anyway, a house printer would only have to leave the relevant gaps or channels in the wall for running utilities through. Or you could just drill in. Mind you, this is just for the overall shape of the house; the interior and exterior surfaces would probably be handled separately.

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    3. Re:Plumbing, electric, etc by Anm · · Score: 4, Informative

      Patent Pending. I'm serious. These guys have already thought of and nearly solved the piping and electrical infrastructure problems. But just haven't publicly unveiled it. I sat in on a talk here at USC by Dr. Khoshnevis.

      The bureaucratics issue came up also. That one is going to be very tough. In the mean time, his applied focus is on adobe house construction in rural areas and third worlds. Oh yeah, and extraterrestial buildings (assuming we can make mud on Mars/Moon).

      Anm

  18. McHouse by jbum · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sure it's cool that a robot might build a house in a day, but would you really want to live in it?

    Personally, I'd rather have my house built by 100 Amish carpenters over the course of one year.

    I may be a Luddite, in this respect, but I'm also a big believer in TLC.

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  19. Curved contours impossible? by CanSpice · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Negative! There's an alternative building process called cobbing that allows for free-form walls. A group called Cobworks is currently building a cob house in Mexico that's got a number of curved walls.

    Curved walls are nowhere near impossible. And placing windows in them is nowhere near impossible either. Furniture and home decoration obviously also has to be bought to fit or placed properly in rooms (i.e. no six foot long paintings hung on a curved wall).

  20. Strange contours have been tried before... by ChiralSoftware · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The Octagon houses, domes, all kinds of shapes have been tried, but when it comes down to it, plain old right-angle planes are what really work. You can bolt things to them, modify them, cut passages through them, and make additions to them more easily than any other shape. I agree, cubes and rectangles are boring, but alas, they are what seem to work the best for real living.

    If you want to see some beautiful uses of curves and non-right-angles in architecture, check out the Walt Disney Concert Hall in LA. It is truly beautiful, and the kind of thing which could not possibly have been built even 15 years ago because the computer modeling technology wasn't there. But that is a place you go to spend a few hours once a month, not to live there, and it was built with plenty of open space around it, not packed in like a house.

    But I think this house-creating technology is cool and I'm sure it will find uses in more spread-out areas where there is room to be creative.

    The logical next step is P2P architecture, right?

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  21. Framing is a small part... by cosmicpossum · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The animation shows the machine making a framed structure on a prepared lot. Stick framing can already be done in a day (albeit with a few sets of human hands involved). The thing that takes time in building a house is the wiring, plumbing, hvac, and finishing.

    I don't see much future for this until they can automate some of these functions.

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  22. Rapid prototyping by rm007 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This seems to be a larger version (albeit by an order of magnitudes) of the kind of technology that has been employed in rapid prototyping and model making for manufacturing an other applications for quite some time. See, for example this and this.

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  23. Slashdotted... by pragma_x · · Score: 3, Funny

    Looks like he'll have to extrude-a-server while he's at it.

  24. Dubious Value by Wes+Janson · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Whatever format this machine has, it's likely going to have to be mounted on a framework with all construction carried out inside the confines of the frame. Now, were the construction material especially fast-drying, sturdy, and lightweight, it might be economical to produce structures in a factory and haul them to location. But for anything larger than a small home, it seems likely that a portable on-site scaffolding-like frame would be necessary. I wonder what sort of calibration issues might arise from such a necessity: the temperature, stability, angle, and many other factors would all affect the construction. Sounds to me like the best idea would be to lay down a concrete floor first the conventional way, with attachment points for the machine, then bring it in, turn it on, wait, and move it on to the next site. No matter how this is done, houses are not going to be constructed in a single day: you'd still need the foundation, the flooring, the roofing, the electrical and plumbing systems, doors, paint, windows, bathroom fixtures, and a myriad of other things to all be installed. As it is, pouring concrete and constructing the walls of a house is by no means the most time-consuming part of making a new home. IANAE, but I really doubt that implementation of this technology would shorten the construction time of an average structure by more than a day or two.

  25. Great news for undeveloped countries by cubyrop · · Score: 3, Interesting


    Lug this giant pooper into a destitute region of SA or China, and lay down inexpensive shelter for an entire town. Encourage corporate sponsorship - no joke - I'm sure Pepsi wouldn't mind putting up some cash for this process, if each house built had a big pepsi logo carved into it.
    Of course, people destitute enough to live in a soft-serve house probably aren't too embroiled in the cola wars. Ebola wars, maybe.

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  26. A real use would be pool walls by Engineer+Andy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The desire to have curved pool walls, which cost a fortune in concrete formwork would be where this could make in-roads if it were able to work around reinforcing steel(unreinforced concrete isn't that crash hot for any serious structural works, especially in any areas of seismicity).

    Curved walls may well look pretty, but are a nuisance to work around if you are trying to fit beds, couches, tables against them. One of the bonuses of straight walls iwth square corners.

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  27. hotels are built like this today by way2trivial · · Score: 3, Interesting

    some chain hotels are built using premodular components today.. entire guestrooms, with plumbing and all. the make'em, put them on a barge, and install them on a foundation(i.e. in NYC it's a godsend)

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  28. Yes, but by chadjg · · Score: 4, Interesting

    this could completely change the way things are done. As I see it this machine could build a dog house for (a totally wild guess) $50,000, or a big honking ranch style house for $65,000. The expense is still going to be in site preparation and getting the equipment in place. No surprise, right?

    I think that once designers get a handle on what this machine can do that they will come up with ways to build houses that will seriously cut down on finish work and systems installation. What about cast in place air ducting, and cast in place conduits? Finish work would be a snap. Believe me, when you hire an experienced stucco crew you'd better be ready for them because you go to lunch and they'll have the job done before you get back. That stuff can be done a lot faster than the vapor barrier-rigid insulation, siding, paint system.

    And as far as insulation goes, what' stopping them from extruding that also? Air entrained concrete with those little expanded poly beads is great insulation! If you want to go farther, it wouldn't be hard to cast in little notches to hang interior sheating and then pump insulation behind that.

    I spent a summer with a fist full of rebar ties in one hand and a tool in the other, and it wasn't a lot of fun. If you can trade a lot of little hand labor, for a couple of days of guys with heavy equipment, it might be worth it. Who knows.

    One thing's for sure, building houses this way isn't going to be done by ma & pop construction outfits.

    My experience with concrete is very small, but this could be big, if it isn't a scam and we can get the building codes people to buy it.

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  29. Re:I already have a model... by Tackhead · · Score: 3, Funny
    > Can't we just feed code from Second Life into this thing?

    Screw that. I want to feed some M.C. Escher code into it.

    Either I get a Relatively sane place, or the robot turns itself inside out while trying to do the damned recursive stairs. But if the robot survives the traumatic experience, I can live in a really nice subdivision.

    M.C. Escher + Robots. Because a man's home is his castle...

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  30. Now I need another euphemism for pooping! by csoto · · Score: 5, Funny

    Man, don't go in the bathroom! I just "extruded a house."

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  31. Re:I used to stick-frame dingbat homes by AshtangiMan · · Score: 3, Funny
    Yeah, Ive done a bit of this, and seen it done. For stick houses this is the cheapest way. For concrete I'm not so sure. Concrete block can also go up pretty fast (though I've not seen it done as fast as stick), but poured concrete takes a long time. This is why no residential buildings use concrete (ok, replace no with few). But poured concrete is a really nice material for a house. It will generally be more efficient (ie, will tend to stay cooler in summer and warmer in winter, like adobe) than wood/metal construction.

    However, while the slash summary mentions concrete, a quick survey of the CC site did not mention it, rather it mentioned metals, polystyrene, and polyester (Disco Stu loves his new polyester house.)