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Titan Missile Complex Up for Sale

ckeck writes "Take a look at this, some guy in Washington State is auctioning off a 'Titan Missile Complex' on eBay. I don't know if this is a fake auction or not, but I already talked to the gentleman running the auction on the phone and plan to take a visit to the complex! This would be an awesome place to live! Check it out here." Looks like he bought it in 1999.

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  1. Time to move :) by Killjoy_NL · · Score: 5, Funny

    Checklist:

    1. Move to Missile Complex
    2. Change name to Dr. Evil
    3. Hold the world hostage
    4. Profit

    See, I didn't use a ??? part, they are so lame ;)

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    1. Re:Time to move :) by erc · · Score: 4, Insightful

      1. Buy missile complex for $300K or less.
      2. Get $500K in donations to fix up your own private property (a scam in and of itself).
      3. Sell on eBay for $3.95 million.
      4. Profit.

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  2. Pack the bags! by edwardd · · Score: 5, Funny

    Honey, we're moving to Washington!!!

    Imagine mapping this (your HOUSE) for a Quake / Unreal map!!

    1. Re:Pack the bags! by sofakingon · · Score: 3, Interesting

      If every slashdotter pitched in a little cash, we could form a /. retreat or something

    2. Re:Pack the bags! by Hogwash+McFly · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Forget mapping it, actually play in it! That complex is just screaming out to be used as a paintball/laser tag arena. Imagine the orange warning lights spinning around and a computerised female voice 'Thirty seconds till missile launch' over the sound system.

      Hell, with the strength of the pound against the dollar even I might buy it! $3,950,000 that's like, what, 2 grand of my money? (just getting one back for the Canadians)

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    3. Re:Pack the bags! by Kneht · · Score: 2, Funny
      That kind of smacks of the Branch Dividian situation doesn't it? The ensuing gassing by the FBI has the potential to be extremely psychedelic. But who will be our Jesus?

      We would have a poll,of course, and for once, "CowboyNeal" would be a real option.

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  3. duh. by torpor · · Score: 2, Interesting


    you've always been able to buy missile silo's on the internet.

    for-ever. since day one.

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  4. Owners reputation. by zaunuz · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you look closely on EBay, 19 people have voted him up. 19 people are satisfied with his previous auction, which leads to this conclution: The person selling it may not be faking it, but how the hell did he get it in the first place?

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    1. Re:Owners reputation. by samsmithnz · · Score: 4, Informative

      Except that he has 19 comments from SELLERS, which means he was buying, not selling on Ebay.

    2. Re:Owners reputation. by bwy · · Score: 2, Informative

      He probably got it through some type of goverment auction when the facility was decomissioned. I'm sure the feds removed anything of any sensitivity before putting it on the block.

      Maybe he should track down whoever ended up buying that F-18/A from a few weeks back... Maybe they need some real estate too!

    3. Re:Owners reputation. by PHlLlPY · · Score: 3, Insightful

      not millionares, but rather just landowners in the area (farmers, ranchers,...) for really low prices. the high cost is in cleaning the chemicals and whatever other crap is in there before you can "move-in." There is even a real-estate agency that specializes in stuff like this (no time to search for it right now). I've seen smaller silos go for about $250,000 plus the cost to cleanup.

    4. Re:Owners reputation. by d8ta · · Score: 5, Interesting

      When the government was decomissioning its Titan missile program in the 1990s, it sold off a number of properties like this. For example, also in the Eastern Washington area, some private investors bought the former Titan facilities located above ground and are running it as an ultra-secure data center facility [titanone.com]. The owner group includes a couple of former Microsoft execs. (Insert your favorite security joke here.)

    5. Re:Owners reputation. by afidel · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Except you'd be suprised how often they forget to demill stuff before selling it. Like the F-18 that went up for sale a while ago, due to a paperwork messup it wasn't classified as needing to be demilled so the mainspar wasn't cut. There was also the nuclear diffusion plant whos equipment was sold as scrap without being cut up (the new owner tried to sell it to the Israeli's before the CIA knocked on his door, his comment was that at least he didn't try to sell it to Iran). There are tons of other lesser examples all the time.

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  5. Saw a show about something like this on TV by The+I+Shing · · Score: 2, Informative

    I saw a show about something like this on TV a couple years ago. A couple bought a missle silo and moved into it. They fixed it up really nice, with a grand piano and carpeting and everything.

    Or maybe I just dreamed it.

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    1. Re:Saw a show about something like this on TV by alx512 · · Score: 3, Funny

      No you weren't dreaming. That silo was in my home state of Kansas and they bought it for some ungodly cheap sum (like 40-80k or something). The government was selling them off.

      They also flooded some of them and you can book dive trips to go scuba diving in them.

  6. Quite the fix up by Bryant · · Score: 4, Interesting

    According to the 1999 article, the original asking price was $300,000. The guy who bought it is asking $3,500,000. That's a bit of a markup, there.

    It makes sense if he put a lot of money and time into renovating it; that's probably the case if there's someone currently occupying the property. (Which the auction hints at.)

    1. Re:Quite the fix up by pegr · · Score: 5, Informative

      There's one in Denver for only $1,450,000.

      Here's what looks to be a realtor specializing in old silos. Quite a collection for the truly paranoid!

    2. Re:Quite the fix up by Colz+Grigor · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Yeah, but that's a heck of a markup. I sincerely doubt the guy has put $3,200,000 worth of renovations into the property.

      My guess: he got an extremely good deal on the property in the first place, perhaps at a government auction. More power to him: if someone is willing to pay $3.5 million for his property, that's what it's worth! We'll see...

      ::Colz Grigor

  7. Could be a cool hosting facility! by IainMH · · Score: 4, Interesting


    In the UK The Bunker is an old nuclear shelter turned into a secure webhosting facility.

    The guy who owns it wrote 'Stay Another Day' performed by East 17 and was a UK Christmas #1.

    Fact.

    No. This isn't about football. ;-)

    1. Re:Could be a cool hosting facility! by IainMH · · Score: 4, Interesting

      On and I forgot.

      They love open source.

      So they could be reading! *waves*

    2. Re:Could be a cool hosting facility! by janbjurstrom · · Score: 2, Informative

      Troll, at least read before posting. On page ONE of the Bunker site, describing their technical team:

      This team is led by Ben Laurie, our technical director and author of the Apache-SSL web server. He is a founding director and head of security of the Apache Software Foundation, whose Apache webserver powers over 60% of the world's websites. He is also a core member of the OpenSSL Project (the world's most widely used cryptographic library), and numerous other internet projects. (emphasis mine)

      Do check up on Ben Laurie. What kind of standards do you have?? Think RMS is a leech too? Sheesh.

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    3. Re:Could be a cool hosting facility! by vevva · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If the Anonymous Coward had taken the trouble to actually read the website they would have discovered that the owners of the bunker were also some of the leads in developing Apache-SSL. If that doesn't count as giving something back to the community I don't know what does.

  8. Here's a couple of photo's.... by thrill12 · · Score: 4, Informative

    ... of a tour inside a similar missile silo, by underground explorers. Maybe it's the same, I didn't check that. But at least it gives you an impression of what is under there.

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    1. Re:Here's a couple of photo's.... by cybermace5 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I don't know if that's really a fair representation except to understand the scale of some of the areas. Remember, the auction here says there is "NO WATER SEEPAGE!" meaning that this silo is probably kept up much better, and doesn't have the dangerous flooding.

      $4,000,000 is awfully expensive though. The ideal use for one of these things is for a group of people to pitch in and share the space; to limit the investment to $100,000 each, you'd have to share it with 40 buyers. It would probably work OK, but 10 buyers/families would be better in my opinion.

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  9. Not New. by jabberjaw · · Score: 4, Informative

    Thisis not exactly new. Atlas and Titan silos have been up for auction/sale for many years.

  10. he'll make nice profit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    if someone actually buys that place for $4M, the newspaper article suggests that he paid $300k originally, granted he has made some improvements to the place but are those changes really worth $3,7M

  11. Looks like a fake by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 4, Insightful
    His other visible eBay transactions were a photo flash, a hammer drill, and a camera case, all of which he bought, not sold.
    There are no pictures of the land except a rather fuzzy-looking diagram. Were I interested in something costing almost $4M, I'd expect to see pictures. Available information leads me to believe that this is a fake or prank, possibly using a hijacked account.

    -bosozoku

    1. Re:Looks like a fake by fafaforza · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The parent should have been modded Funny!

      C'mon, who buys such property based on pictures on an online auction site? If you were at all serious, you'd call the number listed and arrange for a tour. Pictures are only useful for curious web users as something to gawk at as most of us average citizens are already priced out of this offering.

  12. Not real bright, is he... by Fished · · Score: 3, Funny
    Smart Biddder
    Tell no one. Trust no one. Let no one bid this thing up! Pray to the Higher Power of Your Choice that Slashdot doesn't find out.
    Duuuuuumb Bidder
    Wow, this is really cool! I'm going to submit it to slashdot so everybody else can have a chance to bid!
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    1. Re:Not real bright, is he... by Bryant · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Except that it's not actually an auction. I made the same mistake (hey, it's EBay), but there's no place to enter a bid and if you look down at the bottom it says:

      "This listing is an advertisement. There is no bidding! If you are interested in this property, you may contact the seller/agent to request additional information."

      Which is probably smart. If it were an auction, it'd have eleventy-million fake bids by now.

      It also tends to indicate that this is a real property. If it was just someone goofing around, it'd be an auction. That's not strong evidence, but it's certainly an indication.

  13. Flash back to 1999 by cgenman · · Score: 2, Informative

    "Most people think he's insane," said his wife, Lynette, 43, who admits to some initial dubiousness on hearing some of her husband's schemes. "But he has a way of seeing the potential. Things are obvious to him the rest of us don't see."

    indeed.

  14. He also sold... by MarkMcLeod · · Score: 5, Funny

    Did anyone look at the auctions he's had before?

    Jack Hammer of some sort... $360
    Camera Flash... $12.50
    Camera Bag.. $14.95

    "Oh..Yah..I have a giant nuclear testing facility too...Four Million Dollars..."

    1. Re:He also sold... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
      Jack Hammer of some sort... $360

      Well now you know how he found it.

  15. Other items. by IainMH · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's always so funny to see what else these people buy/sell. ;-)

    Genuine Canon Camera Everready Case Denim T50

    Vivitar 550 FD C/R, Flash w/ Manual

    NEW ELECTRIC DEMO HAMMER / CONCRETE BREAKER

    I was expecting cooler stuff.

  16. Missile Complex by FrostedWheat · · Score: 3, Funny

    Missile Complex?

    This wouldn't be in Central Montana by any chance? I hear Dr. Zefram Cochrane's been looking to buy one in that area.

    1. Re:Missile Complex by ScrewMaster · · Score: 2, Funny

      No ... he will be looking to buy one in that area. We have some Eugenics wars to finish up first.

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  17. Are Russian customers allowed there? =) by garick · · Score: 5, Funny

    I wonder, whether our Russian militaries can buy the complex to keep missiles closer to their targets? :)

    1. Re:Are Russian customers allowed there? =) by mpe · · Score: 2, Insightful

      i just wait for a law that grants US coporations the right to have their own nuclear weapons in order to protect their business imagine SCO blackmailing IBM with nukes to stop using their IP

      Except that IBM would probably have so many nukes that SCO would never have bothered them in the first place.

  18. In New York State by crem_d_genes · · Score: 2, Informative

    There has been a silo house for sale for awhile in the Adirondack Mountains, and in Long Island, there has been talk of converting a silo location into a golf course.

  19. Well, it proves that... by Callik · · Score: 2, Funny

    You can buy anything on E-Bay

  20. Terms He Didn't Disclose... by vudufixit · · Score: 5, Funny

    1. No shipping. Local pickup only. 2. To avoid stiff fees, PayPal will not be accepted. 3. Checks will be given ten days to clear. 4. Non-paying bidders without ABM defenses will be given NEGATIVE FEEDBACK.

  21. Not good for a home by pieterh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Living underground has many practical advantages. All-year insulation from heat and cold, no neighbours, no leaking roofs, infinite space for expansion if you care to dig.

    But... we're descended from tree-hugging primates, not moles, and living underground is a sure way to go crazy. A home needs sunlight, a view, and fundamentally, people within easy reach.

    I'd rather live in a shoddy 1-room appartment than in a hundred room bunker.

    1. Re:Not good for a home by Discopete · · Score: 4, Interesting

      But picture turning the top floor of the launch silo into a solarium. Remove the blast door and replace it with glass (it would probably have to be bulletproof to withstand the downward force from the snow in the winter). A little bit of remodeling and you have a perfect place to lie back and watch the sky).

      If it's far enough away from civilization, you could also use the solarium for a decent telescope.

    2. Re:Not good for a home by Devar · · Score: 3, Informative

      Keep the blast door, but built the glass dome over it. That way if you need the blast door, just close it. Assuming the door is still operational.

      That would be one hell of a way to scare guests. The blast doors start closing. You say they only do that if there's an incoming attack. Guest panics. Hilarity ensues! Although it would probably only work with blondes. But if you have 3.5 mil lying about, you'd probably have many of them about too.

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    3. Re:Not good for a home by Inspector+Lopez · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Remove the blast door and replace it with glass (it would probably have to be bulletproof to withstand the downward force from the snow in the winter).

      Growing up Eastern Washington, I can say that you probably would need bulletproof glass, but not for the snow (it doesn't snow much at all at this missile site). Rather, you'd need bulletproof glass to keep the bullets out.

      There's an astronomical observatory about an hour's drive from this silo. It has heavy steel shutters on the windows. The shutters are not there to keep the stray light away from the telescope --- but rather to keep the bullets out.

      Eastern Washington has many charms, but it also has a robust population of people with guns. A noticable minority of these folks are remarkably generous in their application of these weapons.

  22. Cheney by drooling-dog · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm surprised that Dick Cheney hasn't bought one of these. It probably cost at least that much to build his bunker at the Naval Observatory...

    1. Re:Cheney by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Dick Cheney does not need a missile silo since he is constantly moving around thr country and hiding in undisclosed locations during time of war...

      "Mommy, Mommy, there's a monster under my bed."

      "No dear, it's just Dick Cheney hiding from the terrorists in case they attempt to decapitate the US Government."

      "Oh..."

      "Good night dear..."

  23. sound studio! by plams · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've always looked for the perfect place to build an audio production studio. It would need to be stylish.. and well isolated.. I guess you could play with plutonium-powered speakers in this place, without getting complaints from your neighbours.

  24. Need a Backup/Restore Professional? by Zeromous · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I would love to work in a data store facility such as this! Just the kitsch value alone would get me to move across the country to do so.

    If anyone wants to turn this into a secure data warehouse, a needs a few good men- gimme a shout!!! :D

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  25. Top 5 Reasons for buying ba Missile Complex by amigoro · · Score: 2, Funny

    5. Your basement will be the biggest in town 4. You could have your own nuclear reactor 3. You can hide from militant feminists 2. The best place to be when millennium bug II (somewhere around 2047 I guess) comes around. 1. You can dodge the special skills draft

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  26. Imagine the eBay feedback on this one... by Hogwash+McFly · · Score: 4, Funny

    Got my Titan Missile Complex but the tall backed leather chair did not swivel and the white cat was already dead when i got there! Avoid!!!!!!

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  27. Re:Host Your Own Big Brother TV show. by fafaforza · · Score: 2, Funny

    So it doesn't matter if you own the place or if you are a visitor or what, you are on cameras 24/7, just in case you tried something illegal.

    So if a couple moves in, what does that mean, no anal sex?

  28. I'd be scared by scragz · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just think of all the Chinese/Russian missiles still pointed at your bedroom.

  29. Re:visit to the bank by WesG · · Score: 5, Funny

    We could recreate scene's from Half-Life within the silo complex. I want to be Gordon!

    I can see it know...(cheesy guy looking up as the camera blurs/wave effect)

    "Nothing you need to worry about, Gordon. Go ahead."

    "I have just been informed that the sample is ready, Gordon. It should be coming up to you any moment now. Look to the delivery system for your specimen."

    "Standard insertion for a nonstandard specimen. Go ahead, Gordon. Slot the carrier into the analysis port."

    "Gordon! Get away from the beams!"

    Oh the fun we could have....:-)

  30. Real Pics... by xanadu-xtroot.com · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here's a "tour" of a missile complex for those yearning for a bit more than a small sketch on a web page...

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    1. Re:Real Pics... by LinuxHam · · Score: 2, Informative

      I was skimming for this kind of post, because I wanted to see if anyone posted this. And yours is as good as any post to tag along with.

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  31. Moderators, you've been had by Imperator · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't get it. Why would the government spend lots of money monitoring property it has sold to private citizens, especially when said property (stripped of the nuclear missile, obviously) is not particularly useful for causing harm? Do you have some evidence to back up your claim or is it just a paranoid conspiracy theory?

    Or are you just making stuff up to gain karma? A look at your journal reveals the answer, and it's one that should make your moderators ashamed:

    This account was created for a challenge purpose. [...] Get Excellent karma using ONLY insightless/wrong/misleading/clueless comments. Most of ideas presented will be flawed, informations made up and so on. Sometimes I may post true info if it's my wild guess, but I will be posting it as "informed/confirmed info" for that purpose.

    Oh, and what are you planning to do afterwards? Why, flamebait your karma away. Moderators, please nip this plan in the bud by making sure that Archangle's karma stays low. And an advice to those with aspirations to cause mischief: don't post about them in your journal.

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  32. drug lab - biggest lsd lab busted by cheekyboy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A few months ago 2 guys were busted for being the major suppliers in all of usa of LSD, they were responsible for like 30% of all sales.

    Their whole lab as in a disused silo facility. Totally sealed, no way in.

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    1. Re:drug lab - biggest lsd lab busted by jjshoe · · Score: 2, Funny

      apparently there was a way in ;)

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  33. Too Pricy by WillRobinson · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A school friend of mine got his silo in kansas for 100$ a month lease, for 100 years from a farmer in kansas. With the only restriction of allowing the farmer room to park his tractor inside in the winter.

    The problem with these, is you do have to heat them, and keep the humidity down. With a constant wall temp, you better be able to afford a big humidifier, or just build a house inside. My friend just build his own walls inside, cleaned it up etc.

    Its so quiet and dark in the night, you wouldnt even hear a tornado if it went overhead right on top of you.

  34. radiation paranoia by thelizman · · Score: 2, Informative

    The nuclear material was inside lead-lined caskets in the warheads at the top of the missiles inside the concrete silos which are hundreds of feet from the power and control domes. Radiation risk is right around 0.0%. Even then, risk factors are based on populations, and our modern paranoia over radiation is the result of anti-nuke activist scare tactics. Some people are completely unaffected by low-levels of radiation, others are simply genetically predisposed to develop cancers and radiation triggers it. Madame Curie probably has more exposure to radiation than any other person in history. Sure she died of cancer...in her 80's, after nearly five decades of handling radioactive isotopes. Women who suffered cancer as a result of radium paint used on the clocks they built ingested radium when they licked their brushes, and many of them didn't develop cancer for years. Nobody is ever believed to have developed cancer or illness as a result of secondary exposure to radiation. (And before anyone brings up chernobyl, that's not secondary exposure: the reactor explosion seeded the entire area with very small very hot particles of nuclear fuel and coolant.)

  35. Real missile bases for sale by Animats · · Score: 2, Informative
    While the eBay ad seems fake, there's a realtor who specializes in missile bases. They're not even that expensive, compared to houses in Silicon Valley. Prices range from $133K ("Underground structures flooded") to a 210-acre Titan-F site for $1.45M.

    Some have already been converted to housing ("Spacious marble bath complex, with high ceilings, heavy beams and red cedar 1100 gallon tiled hot tub"). All need some work. Often quite a bit of work.

    They're all in the middle of nowhere.

  36. Nike base in .... by sittingbull · · Score: 3, Funny

    There were several Nike missile bases in MD one of which I did some exploration in. Now a developer has build and entire subdivision over it and I doubt that the new home-owners know about what lies beneath their gated community.

    If you are going to use one of these for a house it is very expensive to remove the lead paint and asbestos insulation on any pipes/walls... but in the 50's men ate lead and smoked asbestos....

    1. Re:Nike base in .... by yppiz · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Nike missile bases are very different than this. There's one in Marin County that's restored and open to the public: SF-88.

      The most extensive Nike bases I've seen: SF-88 and one of its sister sites in the Presidio of SF, had an above-ground radome or two, an above-ground launching area, and a small below-ground bunker - more of a garage, really - for storing the Nike missiles. The bunkers were not hardened; their purpose was to protect the surrounding area if one of the missiles exploded in storage.

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  37. Way ahead of ya by SamSim · · Score: 2, Informative

    Real Life Comics' Tony bought one of these beauties ages ago. You can buy them here for around $2,500,000, and I can personally vouch for VillainSupply's extremely consistent customer support. (None at all, ever.)

  38. Go Ahead by medcalf · · Score: 2, Funny

    Serve your "no-knock" warrant now!

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  39. Dream home by torklugnutz · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Some links for the interested:
    A real estate agent specializing in Missile Bases
    A virtual tour made by some tresspassers.

    I was fascinated about the chance to own one of these properties. Doing some research, I found some ceveats though. First, the base had to be de-commissioned prior to 1965. After that, there were new treaties which required the complete destruction of the base after de-militarization. Second, being underground can lead to some health hazards, i.e. Radon. Third, missile bases aren't ever located in easy to reach places, and I like to be able to go to the store without a bunch of planning beforehand.

    I'd still love to own this monstrosity though. The Titan 1 sites are the most elaborate and extensive. Kind of makes me sick to think about the money spent of this thing when it was built only to be decomissioned ~5 years later.

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  40. This is real. by bishiraver · · Score: 4, Informative

    A quick search on google leads you to Missile Bases, a site that has missile silos for sale.

    There are people who like to rennovate these old Silos into homes which are earthquake-proof, nuke-proof, and pretty much everything else-proof.

  41. Yes and no... by Svartalf · · Score: 4, Informative

    Most of the silos on the 'net have been older Atlas silos. Very, very few of the Titan I silos ever got into public hands AND have no apparent water seepage into any parts of the building (Typically, the actual missle bays would fill up with water because of location- they'd sump pump it out, but with them being abandoned...).

    If it's for real, it's something somewhat special. The last one that went up was some 2-3 years ago in Colorado.

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  42. What? by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 2, Informative

    This is PROPERTY we are talking about here, as in a fixed, physical location, not an item that will be shipped to you. If someone was interested in buying, they'd call the seller up and go have a look. Not only would they have a look, they'd probably bring with them a real eastate agent and, if they liked what they saw, a home inspector later.

    It's not like you see a house lising online, like the picture, and PayPal the guy $100,000 (or $4million in this case). You locate a property you might like, go see it, check the records, get it insepcted, secure financing. THEN you make a bid, if that's accepted escrow the money, sign the paperwork, get it recorded, and then you get the property and the seller gets paid.

    I found my current house online. I browsed the local real estate listings and found a few places I though sounded interesting, my real estate agent found a few more. Some had no pictures, and none had more than a front shot and one interior shot. No matter, we priortised and then spent a Saturday driving around looking at places. Found the one I liked and decided to work on buying it. Came back one Friday with the agent and an inspector who checked the building for any problems and gave me a report. A few weeks later, all the paperwork was done and the place was mine.

    eBay feedback is a somewhat useful indication when purchasing normal small dollar items to be paid for over the Internet and shipped to you. Pictures can be important since you've bought and paid for it before you ever touch it. Feedback is irrelivant to property sales, since you or one of your agents WILL be going there to see it, and records checks will be run to make sure the seller owns it.