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C Alive and Well Thanks to Portable.NET
rhysweatherley writes "So C is dead
in a world dominated by bytecode languages, is it? Well, not really.
Portable.NET
0.6.4 now has a fairly good C compiler that can compile C to IL bytecode,
to run on top of .NET runtimes. We need some assistance from the community to port glibc in the coming months, but it is coming along fast. The real
question is this: would you rather program against the pitiful number API's that come with C#, or the huge Free Software diversity that you get with C? The death of C has been greatly exaggerated. It will adapt - it always has."
Coming soon... Communix.org. Put your blood, sweat, and tears into this Unix variant so that it can benefit your fellow comrades. No pay, long hours, and the glory of the state awaits you.
C?
Yeah, just kill it off already... I wanna go back to using Commodore 64 BASIC.
READY.
PRINT ""+-0
All the advanced language features of C with all the speed of an interpreted VM!
Can I get them to compile asm to java bytecode next?
Sorry - someone had to say it!
A little planning goes a long way...
C lives on; driven by an insatiable unreasoning swarming hunger. Until the day when the seventh seal is broken, the sun dies, and all the languages are at last bound to it's dark will. Then all of man, in the Doom of our time, will writhe in agnoy for a thousand years of darkness until the, strongly typed, Rapture casts the dark empire back into the pits of hell, and scatters the damned to the winds.
Remember when punch cards went obsolete?
No, I'm not a dinosaur.
In the meantime I'll just risk being labeled "old-fashioned" and compile C straight to binary
Remember when punch cards went obsolete?
:'(
...
Yes.
I'm old enough where my toddler drinks Pediasure, my wife drinks Boost (to give her nutrients during her pregnancy), and I'm on Slimfast.
I'll cry myself to sleep tonight
Summary of argument to date (translated from geek-speak):
> Queens English is so dead.
> Yo, it's all about Ebonics.
> Dude, Southern Drawl is *soo* slow... Surfer speak is a way better language.
> Like, Valley Speak is, like, the best networking dialect to know!
> Well, if you want a job with a blue-chip company, go with Chicago Twang.
> I hear that they're porting the Queens English libraries to Chicago English, btw.
> See? Queens English is not dead...
Dialects, people... just dialects. Try to see things in the broader scheme of things. (punny, eh?).
Isn't this the part where a troll brings in the "NetBSD is dying article" with C as the replacement modifier value? C'mon, they HAVE to have an atomatic generator by NOW.
It's just pining for the fjords.
if we could only get a compiler that does what I think I'm doing instead of what I actually told it to do....then we'd have something
However, you should check News.Google.com frequently in case the world ended and no one told you.
> As a Christian, I won't write anything in C (obviously) [...] and do you think that these systems are going to be ported to Java or BASH?
As a Christian, you should clearly support J4V4 in all things.
Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
I know. I killed him. I ran him down in my PHP-mobile while drag racing with those Ruby punks on their friggin crotch rockets. At least C++ had the sense to step out of the way. I guess they were arguing about how their half-witted brother C# knocked up his half witted twin sister, Java, and produced some hideous premature birth thingy who they called Mono. I would have turned around and hit C++ had I not blown a module and had to stop. Those Ruby punks gave me the bird, but you wait and see. I got this new Zend nitrus which knock the socks of those badboys but I don't know how plug it in. Anyone got the number of a good mechanic?
The real question is this: would you rather program against the pitiful number of security holes that come with C#, or the huge Security Hole diversity that you get with C?
Should work ... but MONO thinks "C is dead" .. so might run into dead code elimination of the JIT.. ;-)
C is a gift from the Gods.
C++ is a gift from the Devil.
Hey, that might just speed up MS Word enough to be usable! :)
(it's a _joke_, laugh!)
...OR wait until Netcraft confirms it.
in my life God comes first.... but Linux is pretty high after that
Francis Smit
I was just wondering where I could get a C compiler.
I used to love C, but then I found something much better: Assembly language; pure and clean machine code. It has lots of advantages:
Yes , that optimised x86 assembler will come in *real* useful on a Sparc, PA_RISC, 68000, Power-PC etc etc architecture won't it when you need
to drop an equation solver into your OO program.
I agree 100% that C is the biggest inspirator for new languages. One can only take being burned by C's shortcomings so much before deciding that there has to be a better way.
The correct term for C# and .Net is 'stillborn'.
Silly, your program will never call portable() unless you tell it to.
Obj-C on the other hand looks like the designers thought to hell with C , we'll design our own new-look language and shoehorn it kicking and screaming into C.
After meeting the designer, I'm inclined to agree.
"We returned the General to El Salvador, or maybe Guatemala, it's difficult to tell from 10,000 feet"
How can C be dead regardless?
I thought C can't die, it just gets cast to void.
BSD is designed. Linux is grown. C++ libs
It is now official - Netcraft has confirmed: C is dying Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered C community when recently IDC confirmed that C accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all languages. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that C has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. C is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last [samag.com] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Kreskin [amazingkreskin.com] to predict C's future. The hand writing is on the wall: C faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for C because C is dying. Things are looking very bad for C. As many of us are already aware, C continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeC is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenC leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenC. How many users of NetC are there? Let's see. The number of OpenC versus NetC posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetC users. C/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetC posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of C/OS. A recent article put FreeC at about 80 percent of the C market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeC users. This is consistent with the number of FreeC Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeC went out of business and was taken over by CI who sell another troubled OS. Now CI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that C has steadily declined in market share. C is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If C is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. C continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, C is dead.
Fact: C is dead
Sigs? We don't need no stinking sigs!
For 87 cents a day, you can buy a poor /.er a dictionary
How much does it cost to make him use it?