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Hack This, Please

Andy Kessler, the author of Wall Street Meat had a recent piece in the WSJ, and now reprinted on his own site. It's a piece about how companies are shifting much more to "hacker" friendly models. It's a particular area of interest for me, as it's something that I've talked about with the folks at BCG for a while.

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  1. Not smart to sue your customers by AubieTurtle · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The hacker hostile business methods of cue:cat and iOpener sure helped those companies... helped them disappear!

    1. Re:Not smart to sue your customers by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Do you seriously think they disappeared because of hackers? Please. They disappeared because they had lousy ideas. Whether they sued hackers or not was totally irrelevant.

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  2. Why are not business by Fisher99 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    more like software dev models. You know, feasibility, plan, design, make, test, support etc.

    1. Re:Why are not business by The+Unabageler · · Score: 3, Insightful

      where do you think those models came from? business has been around a lot longer than computers...

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  3. Sheesh by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    That piece is very foolish. The point he misses is that GEEKS DON'T MATTER. It doesn't matter that he likes hackable stuff; he's only one sale. It doesn't matter what books O'Reilly sells, because O'Reilly is barely a blip in the publishing world. What matters is what the masses want, and the masses typically want stuff that "just works" with a minimum of hassle. They don't care about extreme customization.

    I recall one of Steve Jobs' big failures. He created an "ultimate remote control" that did everything but get your beer for you. It was a massive failure. Why? Too complicated. People didn't want an infinitely programmable remote control.

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    1. Re:Sheesh by Peridyd · · Score: 5, Insightful

      With all due respect, it's you that missed the point. The piece is actually arguing that hacking should be incorporated into product lifecycle process. It's not arguing that products need to be so pliant that the "painted footprints on the floor" crowd can't use them, but rather that companies embrace the fact that some of their consumers will hack their products and that some of those hacks will be better than the original.

    2. Re:Sheesh by Felinoid · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I recall one of Steve Jobs' big failures. He created an "ultimate remote control" that did everything but get your beer for you. It was a massive failure. Why? Too complicated. People didn't want an infinitely programmable remote control.

      Unless your talking about the Newton I never heard of it...
      And considering I knew about the Amiga, Atari ST and Zoomer all who died for stupid or non-existant marketting I'd say this 'Ultimate remote control' died for the fact that nobody knew it existed.

      The point he misses is that GEEKS DON'T MATTER.
      When Apple introduced the Macintosh they frighted the geeks away with the slogen "For the rest of us" this held the Macintosh back a tad as there were fewer develupers than there should be.
      Don't get me wrong the Macintosh is VERY geek friendly BUT Apple did create the impression it was not by mistake.

      However the Macintoshes early days is a dual object lesson. The Mac was successful in spite of a lack of software.

      The Geek AND typical user matter. If you must pick one over the other pick the typical user any day. But every chance you get support both.

      The original Real Player was always available for Mac, Solarus, Linux and BSD as well as Windows untill version 5 when popularity slipped down the rabbit hole and vanished.
      This to spite the fact that Windows alone represented about 75% to 90% of the market at the time.

      The problem was that enough content was created on Sparcs, Linux and Macs that Real Networks suffered from the loss of content.

      What matters is what the masses want, and the masses typically want stuff that "just works" with a minimum of hassle. They don't care about extreme customization.

      Very true however remember that all the technology are basicly content systems be it game consoles, computers, web browsers and media players.
      The geeks make the content.....

      The typical user isn't going to write his own programs.

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    3. Re:Sheesh by zurab · · Score: 2, Insightful
      It looks like you read the article, but still you are making points that the author already considered or didn't even make.

      The point he misses is that GEEKS DON'T MATTER.

      Except that he never said geeks mattered, but they only serve the purpose for "mass-customizable" products. Quote from the article:

      There is a new breed of users out there, computer-literate consumers who don't think twice about altering the look, feel and functionality of a product. Those billions of embedded computers have turned business on its head. The Henry Ford school of 'one size fits all' or the Colgate school of 40 choices of toothpaste are now both obsolete. Give us one size that we can alter how we wish.

      What matters is what the masses want, and the masses typically want stuff that "just works" with a minimum of hassle. They don't care about extreme customization.

      This is what he calls "mass customization." Allowing 3rd parties - not only geeks but more importantly other companies - "hack" your products will contribute to your product's popularity and provide valuable market research as well. It will tell you how your customers want to use your products.

      I recall one of Steve Jobs' big failures. He created an "ultimate remote control" that did everything but get your beer for you. It was a massive failure. Why? Too complicated. People didn't want an infinitely programmable remote control.

      Again, this is not the author's point. There's nothing preventing a product to "just work" AND be "hackable" at the same time. He gives you examples like TiVo and other products that are either already using this method or should be seriously considering it like cell phones, automobiles, etc.

      IOW, re-read the article with an open mind. I think he does make some valid points.
  4. Hacking is bad by pholower · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is how many companies see the word hacker. Ill things come to mind. They think of all the money they spend to prevent hackers from altering anything in the company. There are a few companies that put hacks in on purpose, but these companies are, as I said, few and far between. With all of the people now that use computers, it seems only an inevitablilty. Open Source programs are the ultimate hack. You can change anything on it you like, and the best part is, it is legal to do so under the GPL. We need more companies that cherish the GPL. I mean, there are plenty of companies that have survived, and profited greatly off of these designs. Red Hat, need I say more? If the initial product is good, they will make their money.

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  5. hackable by elh_inny · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Instead of simply configuring your PC to suit your needs, you buy some exotic pieces of hardware to do the very same tasks but the hard way.

    While I don't mind versatility, things should not be sold to do something different from what they were designed for.

  6. Rabid Fan Base by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think that encouraging the "hacking" of your products, or not actively discouraging, helps to develop very dedicated fans (see Tivo). It also give people who have the desire and skills to modify the equipment a greater sense of ownership and/or control of THIER device. As a side benfit it allows a company to effectively outsource a portion of the R&D effort to actual customers. A nice cheap way to find out what people want. If they then incorperate these hacks into future models the the "I want it to just work crowd" can benfit too.

  7. I Definitely Agree by Futaris · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'd have to agree with this guy. There are a lot of people out there that want to hack things to worth the way they want them too. And with education levels of everyone rising, it will only be a matter of time before the younger generations want to modify things. Take for example, the mobile phone, which five or ten years ago was just a phone. Most of the younger generation likes to modify and change their mobile.

  8. Bad Idea by CreatureComfort · · Score: 5, Insightful


    The biggest problem with this idea is that allowing your product to be easily changed by the end user is a recipe for technical support disaster. That's why every branded PC you buy these days doesn't just come with a disk to reinstall the OS, it comes with a "System Restore" CD. So that when you call Dell, HP, Gateway, eMachine, etc. with a problem, they walk you through the few simple things to determine if it is a hardware or software problem. As soon as they feel they can eliminate a hardware failure, the next suggestion is use the restore CD, simply because they can't afford to spend the time trying to figure out what you did to your PC to mess it up.

    If your toaster becomes deliberately (by the manufacturer) "hackable" then they can no longer have those big warnings that tinkering with the device voids the warranty, and they will also have to hire a massive support group to get all those messed up toasters working again.

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    1. Re:Bad Idea by JayBlalock · · Score: 2, Insightful
      If your toaster becomes deliberately (by the manufacturer) "hackable" then they can no longer have those big warnings that tinkering with the device voids the warranty,

      Um... no. It's not like this article was literally talking about slapping a "hack me please!" sticker on the box. It's talking about things like not going out of your way to sue\harass people who DO hack the product and talk about it. Or, from an engineering standpoint, not attempting to lock every component behind locks and doors to keep people from tinkering.

      It's still quite possible to keep the same basic policies about not supporting modified hardware, without having to go on a Microsoft-like rampage against those who hack. Just look at the whole story of Lego Mindstorm vs LegOS. In the end, all they did was ask the creator of LegOS to change the name of the product and make it more clear it wasn't official.

      As I see it, it's just like cars. No one - well, no one but the spectacularly stupid - is going to, say, install a nitro system in their car and then expect the engine warranty to be valid when they blow it up. I would wager *most* people understand that at the point they open something up and start mechanically altering it, they know that they're not going to get official support.

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  9. To the contrary by Nakito · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Companies have a much stronger interest in preventing, not encouraging, end-user modification of their products. This is because they want to charge you for extra features and upgrades. Consider one of the most obvious and prevalent examples of computer hardware hacking (which the authors failed to mention although I am sure it was in their minds): CPU overclocking. Intel has no interest in making it easy for you to buy one of their inexpensive CPUs and making it run like one of their premium CPUs with no benefit to them. To the contrary, their entire pricing model is based on charging you extra for those capabilities.

    Yes, there is the occasional product that gains geek cult status because the manufacturer encourages end-user hacking (e.g., Lego Mindstorms). But those products are already aimed at that particular segment of the market. Makers of mass-market electronics, on the other hand, have no interest in letting you upgrade their products when they would much rather sell you the upgrade.

  10. Making money from it by nenya · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There are two primary reasons that are holding back major corporations from opening their goods to hackign. The first is liability, the second is money.

    Concerning liability, companies are rightly paralyzed with fear that they could be held responsible for making a product that can be modified to do illegal and/or unpleasant things. Take, for example, the TiVo situation. Just because they took out the ad-skipping feature by default, doesn't mean that they cannot theoretically be held responsible for allowing their product to be hacked in such a way to put the feature back in. And hacking cars is even more legally dangerous. In short: while corporations ensure that their goods meet the requirements of current legal code, there is no way to ensure that a hacked product will still be in compliance. It is highly likely that corporations can be held liable for this.

    Second: corporations exist to make money. The reason that most companies don't want their product to be hacked is that they don't want you to find that feature for yourself, they want to find it first and sell it to you. If you add a feature they didn't sell you, they lose. There is a way around this, fortunately, and Apple has already taken it. Simply reserve the right to include and market any hacks that consumers come up with. But finding the hacks that would have market value is hard enough: finding the hacks with market value that are legal is even harder.

    1. Re:Making money from it by zhenlin · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Concerning liability, companies are rightly paralyzed with fear that they could be held responsible for making a product that can be modified to do illegal and/or unpleasant things.

      Pah. Without modification, I can use knives intended to carve food to kill others instead.

  11. Re:They're wrong... by Nakito · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They are also wrong when they say that there are companies that truly want users to hack their mass-market electronic products. Here is the killer counter-argument:

    Name one manufacturer of a mass-market electronic product (including the Roomba described in the article) that will not instantly void your product warranty for doing the things described in this article.

  12. Although I think racing is a waste of resources... by bigattichouse · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Racing *was*, and occasionally *is still* a major source for automotive innvations to control a car at high speed. Hacks like this are the modern equivalent for non-racing items. Play with it break it, see if you can make it better.

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  13. Re:Although I think racing is a waste of resources by JayBlalock · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Exactly. I don't see why people (companies, consumers, Senators, etc) don't understand that hacking\modding an X-Box is effectively NO different than modding a car. It baffles me when, on one hand, Congress keeps passing laws to protect small garages and prevent auto manufacturers from locking down hoods, and simultaneously on the other, they pass restrictive laws to prevent any consumer from ever so much as thinking about modifying a piece of electronics.

    Well, not ENTIRELY baffled. It's about stupidity and money. But in principle I'm baffled.

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  14. Re:M$ ? by MsGeek · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No, more like:

    1.) Scout out new and promising products created by indie programmers;
    2.) Buy them, lock stock and barrel, for as cheap a price as you can get away with;
    3.) Mod the software just enough to break compatibility with anything other than the Latest and Greatest Windows Product;
    4.) Release the marketing hounds;
    5.) Get Microsoft-friendly press types to bray about how "innovative" the product is and why you should run out and buy it;
    6.) Profit!

    Everything from MS-DOS to Front Page, Visio, Halo and VirtualPC have been bought and corrupted this way. It's the Microsoft way. They do not "innovate" in-house. They need other people to do their "innovating" for them. :P

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  15. Re:They're wrong... by JohnGalt00 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Most of the time, voiding the warranty makes perfect sense when you're talking about hacking.

    Lets say I take apart my TiVo/Roomba whatever, put it back together, and it doesn't work right. If it was working before I took it apart, and it doesn't work when I put it back together, how can the company honor a warranty? They have absolutely no assurance that you didnt fsck something up while you were poking around. Do you really expect them to say, "You were hacking, so it's okay you broke it. we'll send you a replacement."

    Voiding the warrant makes sense, regardless of their position on hacking.