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Congress To Force Cable a la Carte Plans

unassimilatible writes "Senate Commerce Committee Chairman John McCain seems to be leaning towards sponsoring legislation mandating something I have wanted for a long time: Forcing cable companies to offer "a la carte" programming packages. No U.S. cable or satellite currently offers such a plan. However, as the Washington Post reports, "That may change, if some lawmakers and consumer groups get their way, as the cable industry finds itself under increasing scrutiny. Lawmakers report that their constituents are angry about cable bills that have risen at three times the rate of inflation since the industry was largely deregulated in 1996." McCain money quote: "I go down to buy a loaf of bread. I don't have to buy broccoli and milk to go with it." Bottom line is, cable companies have a government-authorized monopoly, so maybe they need to recieve government-mandated "innovation." Why should I pay for 15 non-English channels?"

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  1. He who pays the Piper calls the tune by Gothmolly · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While I am completely against government regulation of things like cable, the Cable Companies have made their own bed on this one. They scammed themselves a legal monopoly, now they have to dance to the government's tune. Of course, they'll just pass the 'costs' of this on to the consumer. But they can't claim some kind of moral high ground against 'government interference', when they've been sucking off the government tit for the last 20 years.

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    1. Re:He who pays the Piper calls the tune by jfengel · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Ah, but what exactly will those costs be? At least some consumers, who will get only two or three channels, will pay less. Those who really do watch all 395 channels will pay more. Funny that more government regulation should play out like free-market capitalism.

      The losers may not be the consumers, but the low-end stations that are being subsidized right now. If the cable company drops 78 of those 395 channels because nobody's watching, there aren't any costs to pass on to the consumer (but I'm sure they won't be dropping prices, either). It sure sucks if you work for one of those 78 channels, and they pay the costs, but we can save money by exporting those jobs to India...wait, wrong discussion.

      The consumer will also lose out on those 78 channels of original programming, but such is life in a free-market economy: if not enough people want it, you can't get it.

    2. Re:He who pays the Piper calls the tune by MoonBuggy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually what's more likely is that a preset 100 channel package would cost $50, a preset 200 channel package would be $75 and taking 3 a la carte channels would be $7 per channel plus a $25 admin fee for making you a nonstandard package. Corporations are evil - they will simply charge extortionate fees to discourage uptake of things they don't like.

  2. My thumb thanks you by thebra · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've been wanting this for so long. I hate paying for things I don't need.

    "Besides adding to the cost, cable companies say, selling channels individually might make it difficult for lesser-watched, niche channels to survive."

    This is bad how?

    1. Re:My thumb thanks you by EricWright · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well, I hate to break it to you, but what's stopping TW/Charter/Cox/etc. from charging you $3/channel (or pick your favorite insane amount) on the a la carte plan? They will still be (essentially) a monopoly.

      And what about the niche channel you like (TechTV maybe?) that the general populace couldn't care less about? Will you be happy when they go under because only a select few people want to pay for it?

      I'd love to see a la carte television myself, but only if it's a reasonable price and the selection doesn't decrease. In reality, I just don't see that happening.

    2. Re:My thumb thanks you by jcoleman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I've been wanting this for so long. I hate paying for things I don't need.

      Why do you have cable TV in the first place, then?

    3. Re:My thumb thanks you by That's+Unpossible! · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well, I hate to break it to you, but what's stopping TW/Charter/Cox/etc. from charging you $3/channel (or pick your favorite insane amount) on the a la carte plan?

      Market forces? TV is a luxury, and they have competitors via satellite TV and the internet.

      And what about the niche channel you like (TechTV maybe?) that the general populace couldn't care less about? Will you be happy when they go under because only a select few people want to pay for it?

      If there is no market for it, why is it on the air? Why should people who don't like it subsidize it? I may lose a channel or two that I care to watch, but that is capitalism baby!

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  3. Quality by glpierce · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "...angry about cable bills that have risen at three times the rate of inflation..."

    Don't forget that quality has also dropped noticeably. We're paying more for more channels, not more good programs.

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  4. Yay! Now everything will be more expensive! by MadWicKdWire · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So when did a-la-carte mean cheaper? Go to a mexican restaurant and order a 3 enchilada meal, and order 1 crispy taco on side. Unless you are going to Taco Bell... that damn crispy taco is going to cost you just about as much as 1.5 enchilada!

    The cable company is going lobby against this big time. If someone just wants TechTV only at their office, it's going to cost them big time. The cable company would at least like to make some profit off of everyone of their subscribers.

    Thats my $0.02... oh yeah forget... since I'm only making one comment today, I'm charging more... that'll be $3.50.

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    1. Re:Yay! Now everything will be more expensive! by Dracolytch · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sure, things are cheaper in volume. I honestly don't care about volume though. With my current company, my food choices are:
      No food
      One Taco
      15 Enchiladas
      Free reign of the kitchen

      There's a big space between one taco and 15 enchiladas.

      Right now I get about 60 channels, and I watch ~maybe~ 5 of them. I would happily drop the rest.

      If I drop 92% of my cable service, and the price doesn't go down, then something's fucked up.

      ~D

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  5. Channels of choice... by Faust7 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    However, less-watched channels that serve distinct but smaller audiences, such as TechTV and BET, may not survive, because not enough viewers would pay for them.

    Which is fine. TechTV and BET are both complete garbage. What better way to improve the quality of programming than to mandate it through public dollar votes?

    (Just give me Sci-Fi, Cartoon Network, Comedy Central, and the Playbo--er, Discovery, and I'll be good to go. Heck, maybe NBC as well, if for no other reason than this year's feisty presidential election.)

  6. Re: Evil Government Intrusion by mgs1000 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But cable companies don't work in free markets, they are given a monopoly over their customers.

  7. Not a good thing.. by BWS · · Score: 4, Insightful
    as I quote someone I read on Fark, as it applies to slashdot as well:
    Members of Fark are a fairly intellectual minority (for the most part). Before you begin going off on your "this is what's best for a free market" spiel, check out the likely results. People here seem to think that the stations they want would be around in a year, because they picked them. Most of them won't. Stations like MTV, VH1, ESPN, SpikeTV, and other mainstream channels have by far the highest viewing (other then the local monsters of CBS, NBC, ect.) The channels I hear people on Fark want: Discovery, some of the News channels, History channel, are channels that, due to their viewership, will not get many subscribers under a "a la carte" system. They die. Pop culture and sports will survive. I'm a sports fan, but I'd like more to TV then sports and sitcoms. I'd rather pop culture not own the airwaves at all times, forcing more useful channels out in a shark tank frenzy of a ratings war, which is exactly what would happen.
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  8. Invisible Hand Bitch-Slaps Cable Companies by handy_vandal · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If companies sell shit you don't want -- don't buy it.

    Yes, this means you have to give up the something you want, because it's bundled with a bunch of shit you don't want. Hang in there -- if enough consumers stop consuming the shit, companies will desperately try to save themselves from bankruptcy by selling you what you really wanted in the first place.

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  9. Re:And here Slashdot shows its leftist bent by Tree131 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    RTFP

    Bottom line is, cable companies have a government-authorized monopoly

    monopoly = monopoly is a situation where for technical or social reasons there cannot be more than one efficient provider of a good

    Unlike Microsoft, there is no alternative to the 2 or 3 services, one of them being the Cable Monopoly, because they ALL bundle their channels.
    I have to buy 100 extra channels just to watch TechTV and Cartoon Network, and then spend an hour Removing all the shopping and religious channels, as well as Fox News and A&E.

  10. Re:And here Slashdot shows its leftist bent by JohnnyCannuk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yeah! Let the market decide! If you don't like the price don't by it and force the price down, just like gasoline and electricity and natural gas....

    Oh wait....

    Dude, sometimes the market can't or won't decide. Then the government, who are supposed to have the interest of the electorate not the cable company executives and shareholders, will decide.

    Sometimes governement interference is bad, sometimes its not.

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  11. We need more competition by 91degrees · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If there was only one supermarket, then they probably would demand you buy everything in chunks of standard sizes. The thing is, we have competition, so since the customers don't want it, they could go somewhere else that does offer what they want.

    Cable companies don't have such competition. There's typically a choice between the local cable provider and a couple of satellite providers. They can get away with this sort of thing by a sort of unspoken agreement. If one of them offered a la carte, so would the others. .

    Essentially this is the prisoner's dilemma. They both know that they will both get the best results by cooperating

  12. Re:Why a big government solution? by Bodhidharma · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's not the cable/satellite providers. It's the channels themselves. If I'm running Jim's Cable TV and I want to offer my customers TNT, for example, Turner might make me buy TBS, The Cartoon Network and the CNN channels as one package. That means I have to charge my customer for all those. So I might as well give him the channels he is paying for.

    I know this because I worked for a satellite TV provider. It was like pulling teeth to be able to offer ESPN to our customers. Finally one of our managers had to call Eisner personally to straighten things out. As much as I'd like to make the cable companies out to be the bad guys, it's really the networks.

    Jim

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  13. Re:This will do nothing by Enry · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's not always the cable companies that force bundling. Take a look at Disney. They force cable companies to buy their channels in blocks so that while a cable company may only want ESPN and the Disney Channel, they also have to pick up Toon Disney and other channels as well. This additional cost gets pushed onto the consumers.

    Didn't Viacom and EchoStar have a fight over this issue just a few weeks ago?

  14. Canadians are used to this by Ridgelift · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "I go down to buy a loaf of bread. I don't have to buy broccoli and milk to go with it." Bottom line is, cable companies have a government-authorized monopoly, so maybe they need to recieve government-mandated "innovation." Why should I pay for 15 non-English channels?"

    As a Canadian, we're used to this sort of socialism (NB: Socialism != Fascism != Communism). Many french and other non-english channels cannot survive in the market without being subsidized. Take our music industry for example. If you want to run a radio station here, you must play a certain percentage of Canadian artists so that US artists do not swamp out our industryt altogether.

    All in all, I think forcing people to pay for a small percentage is a good thing, but then again what do I know? I'm just a brain-washed Canadian.

  15. Re:And here Slashdot shows its leftist bent by AceM2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is hardly leftist. Pissing off companies that hold a monopoly goes all the way back to Teddy Roosevelt, arguably the most liked republican behind President Lincoln and President Reagan. McCain is more of a centrist, but he's obviously republican...

    Now, if the story had said that McCain wanted this and a pony... You might have something to your theory of the leftist bent... But of course, no silly obvious bias would be allowed to be put in story here... No.. Of course not!

  16. Costs? Check your phone bill by Gothmolly · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The ILECs have stuck all kinds of charges and fees on our phone bills to cover the 'costs' of government compliance.
    Low-end stations that are being subsidized right now already ARE losers. Economic darwinism is circling over them, ready to strike the minute that the government wind blows the other way. Their mandate for existence is tenuous at best.

    Non mainstream programming will have to revert to unrestricted media, like radio or over-the-air TV, or the Internet. In the Warsaw ghetto it was underground newspapers. It will always survive. The problem is that you can't both claim a right to protection, and then demand a blank check on what you produce.

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  17. Most idiotic complaint by TopShelf · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Lawmakers report that their constituents are angry about cable bills that have risen at three times the rate of inflation..."

    I get so sick of hearing complaints about the cost of X rising than more than the rate of inflation. Guess what, the inflation rate is an overall value, some things will grow at a higher rate, some lower. Given the fact that the value provided by cable has grown*, I really think people don't have much to complain about here. Think also of how much time people really spend watching cable - it is basically the main form of entertainment in most homes.

    This is like the constant whining over the price of gas. If you actually consider the value that consumers get out of it, the price itself isn't so bad.

    * While it is fashionable to constantly bemoan the lack of good content on TV, look at the diversity of offerings that cable provides, and the opportunity for shows to reach major success from small beginnings that never would have occured on network TV (like Trading Spaces or Queer Eye).

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  18. Re:evil cable companies by walt-sjc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Here's what I see happening.

    Cable rates will go up even more.

    Cable companies will charge even more for the individual channels in order to recoup the costs of administering the additional choices. Popular channels will go sky high such as CNN, ESPN, HGTV, etc. The channels nobody want's (QVC, HSC) will be free anyway. I wouldn't doubt if channels like QVC actually pay cable companies to carry them. Without those "support" dollars, they will pass on the full true cost (and then some) of those good channels.

    If you look at the technical issues, the only way to really do this is with digital TV. Considering the $5 or so / TV cost of the stupid box (plus even more for a remote in many places) that raises prices for households with a bunch of TV's. With old-analog, you could tivo multiple different channels at the same time while watching a third or fourth all on different channels. With digital, I'd need a box for each tivo plus one for each TV. It's easy to pay an additional $25 / month for stupid boxes.

    Thanks but no thanks.

  19. The power of inertia by abiggerhammer · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Nothing in the article indicates that cable companies will only be able to offer a la carte services. I fully expect that Comcast, Warner, et al will go on offering their package-deals, and that most consumers won't have the time or inclination to pick and choose only the channels they want.

    For that matter, nothing's stopping the cable companies from providing a la carte selection at some outrageous price and package-deals at the prices they've been charging all along, on the grounds that if people want a service, they'll have to pay for it at a price the market will bear.

    The lament that "oh, we'll be paying $45/month for 6 channels" makes sense only if a-la-carte-only is mandated.

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  20. Re: Evil Government Intrusion by MotherInferior · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Free maket? ... A few months ago, I switched to satellite for lower monthly costs, and a low cost TiVO.

    Thanks for answering your own question. Makes life easier for me.

  21. Let's take it a step further! by mikeboone · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think it would be cool if you paid for cable usage like you do for electricity...for how much you use. Give me access to every channel, and charge me by the minute. If I really like a certain show, I'll be willing to pay for it. If I go on vacation for a couple weeks, I pay nothing.

    It might also cut down on the mindless hours people spend in front of their TVs.

  22. Would you pay for C-SPAN? by s4f · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't know if I would want to pay for C-SPAN, If watch it once a week, that's a lot. And probably more than most. Yet. I really like the idea that it's there shining a light on what goes on in congress. And I'm willing to pay for it as a part of my cable bill, If there's not enough like me, then it'll go away. That would be bad.

    Also the cable companies need to make it easy and CHEAP to switch channels. Now you have to call them up, and it's a minimum of $5 for any changes. They should give me a package that I can choose 15 channels, and let me pick which, and change them at will.

    I would be reasonable to have then force you to make only one or two changes a month. Otherwise you could effectively rig the system to let you watch all of it. Especially if there was a web interface to the selections.

  23. Socialist side conflicting with liberal side... by fmaxwell · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This reminds me of the old saying: "Democracy is four wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for dinner."

    With our current system, less popular channels are subsidized. That makes it possible for channels like TechTV, The Biography Channel, and Discovery Wings to survive.

    With a la carte cable plans, we run the risk of sinking to a least-common-denominator selection of cable programming, where the consumer is given viewing choices of pro wresting, Fear Factor, Who Wants to Marry a Millionaire?, and soap operas. Small, special-interest channels may go under due to a lack of people willing to pay for them individually. Sure, mom & dad my get the kids to watch a National Geographic Channel show once every month or two, but will they be willing to pay for the channel every month? I bet that most of them won't.

    On the other hand, I don't like paying for non-English channels, either, nor do I have any great interest in women's channels like Oxygen. I don't really want the Home Shopping Club or QVC. But I recognize that people who do want those channels may not like paying for The Discovery Channel, The Science Channel, or Speed Channel, either, all of which I do watch.

    I'd rather see us go back to the old system where cable rates were regulated. This would prevent content providers from raising the rates too high, because they would know that the cable companies could not pass the costs on to consumers. Now they raise rates and the cable companies pass the costs on to us.

  24. Deregulation by Wun+Hung+Lo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think it's interesting that rates have gone up astronomically SINCE deregulation. Why is it that companies go before Congress and say "If we didn't have all this government oversight and regulations to deal with, we would be able to make more money and charge the consumers less." Well, guess what? The airlines, the savings & loan crisis, the energy companies all started either going bankrupt or ripping everyone off. Then, of course, they go back before Congress and say "It's not our fault, you didn't regulate us!"

  25. Re:evil cable companies by Inebrius · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The whole cable box thing is how they get their rates to go up.

    I remember back when the cable companies could charge based on how many TVs you had hooked up in the house.

    But then that got dropped (lawsuits?). So now, you pay the same rate for service to the house, and you can run it to any number of TV sets that the signal will support.

    With cable boxes, they bring back a way to charge you per TV again. That is by choice. With digital TV and standards, the basic channels don't need to be scrambled and you wouldn't need separate boxes for each TV. The only ones that would need a box are the ones that get premium channels. But even technology could take care of this.

    There are ways to deliver ala carte, that would not require a separate box per TV with a per box fee, but that is not what the cable/sat providers would want.

  26. Cable's fault or content provider's fault? by swb · · Score: 4, Insightful

    After the recent Viacom/Dish dust-up, we were reminded of the bundling forced on cable operators by content providers -- want ESPN? Then you need ESPN2, ESPN classic, ESPN gardening, ESPN chess, the Menstruation Network, and the Colonoscopy Channel *or* you don't get ESPN. Oh, and because we're providing so many channels, the cost is high, too.

    Cable operators have said that forced bundling by the content providers forces them to bundle channels as well, since they could easily sell ESPN ala cart but the 27 shit channels they have to pay for as well to get ESPN wouldn't sell, making it a huge money loser.

    I'm generally in favor of unbundled channels, but only if they're vertically unbundled and the cable company only pays the content providers based on the subscriptions they have for those channels. Anything else should be considered a restraint of trade.

  27. Re:More for all channels, but not the point... by TheScottishGuy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    nonestly i don't think people will end up paying less for cable, what i reckon is likely to happen is that the good channels will be billed at something silly like $5 a month, now that doesn't sound too bad, but figure a base charge for connection say $20-$25 maybe they offer a free channel for the top tier, maybe you add Fox, MTV2, and your favourite sports channel, now already you're at $35-40 a month, your cable bill is $10 cheaper but you have a whopping 4 channels, there's also the point that networks that run multiple channels, like ESPN and MTV and C-span would likely spread the programming so that you need to buy both MTV and MTV2 to get what you really want.

  28. Re: Evil Government Intrusion by davegust · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Cable does not have a monopoly on content delivery. Cable has about 70 million subscribers, compared to 20 million for the two major satellite providers. Nearly all consumers, even apartment dwellers, have a choice between cable and satellite television.

    If you look at how the market has changed in the last five years, cable rates have gone up, but quality and quantity of channels have also improved. Cable improved their product to meet competition from the satellite guys, which traditionally have offered better quality and more channels - appearantly what most consumers want.

    The satellite guys experimented with a la carte a few years ago, but it didn't sell. People wanted the 150 channel package. "Super size it. I want the best value."

    The government should stay out of this particular fight. Market forces are working. The thing regulators need to watch is the mega-mergers between the content providers (News Corp, Time Warner, Disney, etc). It's these guys who have the power now. The cable and satellite guys are nearing a commodity status for delivery.