Slashdot Mirror


British Chicken-Warmed Nuke

darrellberry writes "During the Cold War, British researchers developed a nuclear landmine, kept operational during cold conditions by packing it full of live chickens. This story has appeared in a few UK media channels this morning. Probably an April Fools', but who knows? The bomb is supposedly on display at the National Archives in Kew, so if you live in London you can go and see for yourselves..." Also a BBC story and an older New Scientist blurb.

27 of 195 comments (clear)

  1. Not a prank by Space+cowboy · · Score: 5, Informative


    The BBC are running a separate 'this is true, honest' story, detailing other unlikely stories alongside... I like the fact that one of our railways cost more than a trip to the moon.

    Only in the UK...

    Simon

    --
    Physicists get Hadrons!
    1. Re:Not a prank by isorox · · Score: 5, Funny

      I like the fact that one of our railways cost more than a trip to the moon.

      And takes just as long too

    2. Re:Not a prank by OECD · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I'm inclined to believe this one, if only because it seems to bizarre to be fabricated.

      Remember, this is the nation that gave us Supermarionation...

      --
      One man's -1 Flamebait is another man's +5 Funny.
    3. Re:Not a prank by SmackCrackandPot · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yes, but they missed out on the story about newspaper editors being banned from reporting the results of school football matches if one team scores substantially higher than another team. In this case the score was 29-0 defeat.

    4. Re:Not a prank by spellraiser · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I just love this quote at the end of that story:

      Tom O'Leary, head of education and interpretation at the National Archives, told the paper: "It does seem like an April Fool but it most certainly is not. The Civil Service does not do jokes."

      Excellent point - I think this pretty much settles the 'April Fool or not' debate for this one.

      Or does it ??

      --
      I hear there's rumors on the Slashdots
    5. Re:Not a prank by Fnkmaster · · Score: 3, Informative

      I think this was Google's April Fool's joke this year. I think the 1 gig email story is more likely true (though the details may be wrong, who knows).

    6. Re:Not a prank by AKAImBatman · · Score: 3, Insightful

      But it makes no sense. The plutonium 239 alone should be enough to warm to device and keep it operational. If the PU-239 can't keep it warm, then the chickens are as good as refrigerator meat.

    7. Re:Not a prank by Fishstick · · Score: 3, Informative

      > bad harvest of the italian spaghetti crop

      Swiss, and it was a bumper crop, not a "bad harvest"

      it ranks #1 on the Top 100 April Fool's Day Hoaxes of All Time

      #1: The Swiss Spaghetti Harvest
      In 1957 the respected BBC news show Panorama announced that thanks to a very mild winter and the virtual elimination of the dreaded spaghetti weevil, Swiss farmers were enjoying a bumper spaghetti crop. It accompanied this announcement with footage of Swiss peasants pulling strands of spaghetti down from trees. Huge numbers of viewers were taken in, and many called up wanting to know how they could grow their own spaghetti trees. To this question, the BBC diplomatically replied that they should "place a sprig of spaghetti in a tin of tomato sauce and hope for the best." Check out the actual broadcast archived on the BBC's website (You need the RealVideo player installed to see it, and it usually loads very slowly).

      --

      There is much cruelty in the universe, John.
      Yeah, we seem to have the tour map.

  2. from the chickens-is-there-anything-they're-not... by Em+Emalb · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...good for dept?

    Uhm, yes. They don't make very good boomerangs.

    Or coffee filters. Or baseball gloves. (Although that one would be fun)

    --
    Sent from your iPad.
  3. Not an April Fool! by CaptainBaz · · Score: 5, Funny

    This BBC story says that "Plans to fill a nuclear landmine with chickens to regulate its temperature were considered during the Cold War. Officials at the National Archives say it is coincidence the secret plan was revealed on 1 April."

    I, for one, welcome our nuclear chicken overlords...

  4. Yay!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    What is the diffference between April Fool's Day and every other day on Slashdot?

    On April fools day, everyone knows slashdot will be full of useless information. Every other day, the editors aren't aware fo this fact.

  5. Not unusual by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Missing are the brilliant types of engineers who can find an answer to a problem around them without needing a bigger budget and stuff.

    My father worked (among the other 10,000) engineers in Oakridge, TN, during WWII and they frequently packed delicate nulcear instruments in popcorn (dry popped, no salt or butter) simply because it worked well and was easy to dispose of.

    --

    A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
  6. Why today? by peterprior · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The civil service has obviously had access to these documents for a while, so why do they have to "announce" these apparently real plans on April 1st and then get all irritable and have to deny repeatedly that its an april fools joke.
    Why didn't they release the story yesterday, or couldn't they have waited until tomorrow?

    1. Re:Why today? by wfberg · · Score: 4, Informative

      The civil service has obviously had access to these documents for a while, so why do they have to "announce" these apparently real plans on April 1st and then get all irritable and have to deny repeatedly that its an april fools joke.
      Why didn't they release the story yesterday, or couldn't they have waited until tomorrow?


      It was on BBC news yesterday.

      --
      SCO employee? Check out the bounty
  7. Can't take it! by geeber · · Score: 4, Funny

    Must
    Stop
    Reading
    Slashdot
    .
    Until
    .
    .
    Tom orrowwwww......

  8. Landmine? by Doesn't_Comment_Code · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Isn't the point of a landmine to explode right under a group of people? Why does it matter if the charge is a nuclear detonation. As long as the people you are trying to nuke are withing a mile of the explosion, you're probably going to get them. Why not just do a remote control or timed device and save yourself all the hassle?

    --

    Slashdot Syndrome: the sudden, extreme urge to correct someone in order to validate one's self.
  9. (OT -- I think) Does anyone else see... by kclittle · · Score: 5, Funny
    the deep irony of being given 5 moderator points to /. on April 1?

    --
    Generally, bash is superior to python in those environments where python is not installed.
  10. Cluckzilla by AtariAmarok · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ah. I always wondered about the origin of Cluckzilla, who ravaged Leeds during the late 1960s.

    --
    Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
  11. Seymour Cray by Doesn't_Comment_Code · · Score: 4, Funny


    Seymour Cray would've used oxen to warm his nuclear landmine.

    --

    Slashdot Syndrome: the sudden, extreme urge to correct someone in order to validate one's self.
  12. Re:Chickens by mr.capaneus · · Score: 4, Funny

    Most people on slashdot celebrate Valentine's Day by choking the chicken. Does that count?

  13. Lovely! by Dark+Lord+Seth · · Score: 5, Funny

    If this were true, I can already imagine Soviet army personel encountering this weapon:

    Soviet private: In the name of Lenin, what's that awful noise?
    Soviet sergeant: It sounds like... Oh no...
    Soviet private: Chickens? A whole bunch of chickens?
    Soviet sergeant: PULL BACK!!! Tell Dmitri to launch all ICBMs! Get me in contact with the Kremlin!
    Soviet private: What? They're going to peck us to death?
    Soviet sergeant: Silence, cappitalist pig! Those anglobastards witll suffer for their foul crime!
    1. Re:Lovely! by Space+cowboy · · Score: 4, Funny

      Of course, it ought to have ended:

      Soviet sergeant: Silence, cappitalist pig! Those anglobastards witll suffer for their fowl crime!

      Simon :-)

      --
      Physicists get Hadrons!
  14. Not just for warming anymore. by cbiffle · · Score: 4, Funny

    I think everyone's overlooking the very real possibility that these chickens were used for more than just heat.

    Like styrofoam in the H-bomb, this seemingly innocuous packing material (chickens) might be converted to plasma by radiation pressure, thereby dramatically increasing the explosive yield of the device.

    Just wait. I give it 20 years, and we'll see these docs declassified. Of course, then we'll have to worry about rogue states building C-bombs.

  15. Heard of this before. by AlecC · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I have heard of the nuclear landmines in a non-April 1st context before, so I think the underlying story is probably true. The idea is that there are some bottlenecks which an advancing Soviet force, particularly tanks, would have to pass through (bridges etc). Why send aircraft to bomb them at great risk when you could put the bomb in place at your lesiur. 10kt is not a particularly big nuke, anyway. I don't think the radiation part was intentional - it is the reason the idea got canned. If they had a "clean" bomb, they might still be there.

    It goes along with thinking at the time: they were also training troops go hide as the battlefromt passed over them, the re-emerge to harrass the enemy rear and lines of communication.

    The chickens, however, are probably someone's April Fool addition.

    --
    Consciousness is an illusion caused by an excess of self consciousness.
  16. US Landmines by Catmeat · · Score: 4, Interesting
    According to this. The US deployed nuclear landmines (the MADM system) from 1962 until 1986.

    The page also shows a SADM - the nuclear demolition charge intended for use by parachute dropped saboteurs. The SADM's W54 warhead was the smallest and lightest developed by the US and was also used in theDavey Crockett 'nuclear bazooka' and the AIM 26-A nuclear air-to-air missile.

  17. Dirty bomb? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Does all the included chicken poop make this a dirty bomb?

  18. Partly a Hoax, partly true! by timbos · · Score: 5, Informative
    Blue Peacock does/did exist. I have the dubious privilege of having touched the only remaining example, housed in the museum collection at AWE. The other is (and I quote the curator here) `lost'!

    It was a `landmine' designed to be set on a timer to ambush the Soviets as they advanced across Europe. It was based on the Blue Danube device that was the UK's first air-delivered nuclear weapon (essentially, they removed the fins).

    The device had up to an 8-day timer, but could also be set off locally --- either by booby trap, incase it was discovered, or a trigger. Amusingly there was a 10 second delay when you operated the trigger, just time to duck and cover :o) The chickens, though? That's clearly a hoax. Apart from anything else, the device was air and water tight.