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Why PHBs Fear Linux

Tin Foil Hat writes "Paul Murphy over at LinuxInsider examines the role IT text books play in business school curriculums and the misconceptions and misinformation that they present to students. If you've ever wondered why your PHB just doesn't get it when it comes to UNIX and Linux, this article is for you."

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  1. Maybe they don't get it by NanoGator · · Score: 4, Insightful

    " If you've ever wondered why your PHB just doesn't get it when it comes to UNIX and Linux, this article is for you."

    Maybe they don't get it because they don't see Linux software on store shelves at Best Buy. Maybe they feel that using Linux would be a huge headache since they have NFI where the software actually comes from. It's percieved as some toy OS.

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  2. A-freakin-men by p4ul13 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I'm working on an IS masters right now. I was a bit aware as an undergrad of how MS centric the text-books were, but now going back I see that it is outright blatent.

    I don't know why this is the case, but it really must affect the bias of so many students (and future PHBs). I suppose its a matter of people using what they know and what they expect the readers will be using that makes them decide to take this slant, but still seems to be a bad approach in the long-run.

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  3. Why x sucks. by jellomizer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It is always easy for a person who dislikes a platform to make it look bad and point out why it is bad. Text Books are no exception an author who doesn't particular care for an OS even though they are try to objective, will often get their feelings about it in some way or another either by ignoring the fact, giving negative examples, or use negativity resining to explain the features of an other product, "Example: Linux was designed in part because of the shortcomings in windows." While I don't say that Windows is Bad it is implied that Linux is better then windows, Implying that windows sucks. So I probably is best is to concentrate on your platforms strong points and not on its opponents week points, Thus saving yourself from a flame war with your boss. What works best for me is that I compare OS's to Tools Windows is a Hammer and Linux is like a screw driver. They do essentially the same thing put a piece of metal in wood. But they do it differently and having different tradeoffs. Most bosses can understand tradeoffs vs. Better and Worse because with better and worse flame wars occure when speaking about Tradeoffs then it seems much more level headed.

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  4. Need Better Books! by 4of12 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The article does a good job of picking the misleading and false statements about Unix and Linux in various leading textbooks.

    And these are just the vague and false statements about one particular category of knowledge - the Linux OS. It begs the question: if they can be mistaken about this area and not taken the time to get their facts straight, what other areas are getting hand-waving instead of well-researched facts?

    More than anything else, this points out some embarrassing shortcomings in these textbooks. Professors picking textbooks for their students would do well to pick better ones than these.

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  5. Not just IT by MrIrwin · · Score: 4, Insightful
    A degree used to be a theory and evolution through research. Nowdays it appears that an MBA is essentially a vocational training course where students are stuffed with off the shelf concepts.

    It used to be political regimes that adultered the curriculums with indoctrination, nowdays, like everything else, it has become a business!

    Fortunately there a growing number of Maverick enterprises, in all sectors, that are learing that success comes best by not following the rules. I guess that is what the lawyers are supposed to prevent;-)

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  6. No kickbacks? by DR+SoB · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Eeee, could it be because you don't get kickbacks when somethings free??

    (Runs, ducks for cover!!)

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  7. Perception of Value by imgumbydamnit · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I was once told by an MBA that in order for my consulting services to be valued more, I should raise my rates. People automatically think that they get what they pay for, therefor a free distro can't be worth as much as an XP or Solaris license.

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  8. On the other hand, CS textbooks by GillBates0 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    almost always use UNIX/Linux (and UNIX moreso than Linux) while discussing OS, networking and other systems subjects.

    Never have I once come across a mention of Microsoft (except maybe in the History section (Xenix)) any any of the classic books by Tanenbaum, Stevens, et al.

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  9. not always true by rayde · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I took a course as part of my education in the College of Business at Penn State that used AEleen Frisch's "Essential System Administration" (an O'Reilly book") as our textbook.

    However, I'll be the first to admit that most of the MIS-related courses gave only sparse mention of Linux. I think students in general are aware of Linux's existence, but little more than that. Were it up to them to make a platform decision after the basic business degree program, I'm sure that most students would sadly be grossly uninformed about Linux and OSS, and therefore drift over to the familiar Windows environments.

  10. From sSomeone who pitches those PHB's... by prisoner-of-enigma · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Could it be that many PHB's fear the penguin because of the illogical, emotionally-based arguments so many Linux zealots constantly use to push their agenda? I mean, many of the nutcases I've heard from speak of Linux like the coming of some New World Order, reminiscent of how Communists pitched their ideas back during the fifties. PHB's take one look at people like that and say "there's no way in hell I'm going to trust someone so emotionally involved in this to make a valid business decision."

    There have been an increasing number of articles, posts, and so forth coming from notable people in the Linux community pointing out how the zealotry is really becoming a serious impediment to further Linux progress. In particular, they cite many Linux zealot's inability to take any sort of constructive criticism and their steadfast belief that the users should conform to the OS instead of the other way around. They say this is bad for Linux, and I think they're right on.

    Microsoft is using this irrational zealot behavior to convince more PHB's that Linux is some kind of cult, not just an operating system. The more outspoken the zealots are, the more they hurt things.

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    1. Re:From sSomeone who pitches those PHB's... by andih8u · · Score: 4, Insightful

      For every Linux (or BSD, or OS X) zealot, there are a hundred Windows zealots

      I have to disagree with you there...from what I've seen there are definately more Linux zealots roaming around, and they are making Linux look very bad. IBM's Linux commercial (you know, the one with the orphan being adopted by the world) wasn't merely to try introducing Linux to the world, it was image spin. Anytime I tell someone that I use Linux, they always associate me with being a l337 hack0r. The latest batch of worms attacking Microsoft, SCO, and RIAA certainly don't help that impression. To the rest of the normal non-technical people, the Linux zealots really must look like terrorists. "We don't like Microsoft, or SCO, or the RIAA, so we're going to shut them all down fplolomg" Lots of the Linux zealots that I know haven't even used Windows since 85 or 98, so they don't even know what they're really up against with XP or 2003Server, and they're so busy railing about how evil MS is, that they never bother to take a look at what their products are like, to know what they are competing against.

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  11. Without even realizing it... by interiot · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Well, without even realizing it, PHBs might find their employees integrating tools like Apache, perl, GNU make, etc into their development process or tools. At which point you tell the boss that they've gotten all this functionality for free for so long, and how many problems have you had because of it? Right, so bring on the linux.

    I work for a Fortune 100 telecom company who isn't terribly pro-linux. But one day I counted up all the open-sourced software we use on a daily basis, there's a ton of it... if someone ripped OSS software away from us, we'd be in a world of hurt.

  12. In our case, it's SCO. by djh101010 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Our CIO is a sharp guy, understands that Linux is the appropriate technical answer to several of the problems we have, and understands the value of open-source software in genereal. The problem is, we got _the letter_, and he's understadably not interested in becoming a headline-making company for the wrong reasons. It's annoying and frustrating, but until SCO gets slapped down hard and goes away, we have to consider the legal/political aspect as well as the technical merits. Yes, it's BS. Yes, their claims are worthless, but yes, he has chosen not to put us at risk as a target of SCO. He expressed the same frustration that we techies are feeling.

    If SCO is just a shill for Microsoft, and is trying to delay the inevitable slide away from Windows, well, in our case, it's having some of that effect. If they're not doing this as an agent of Microsoft, well, it has the same effect.

  13. Just to show what professional really means by rzbx · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Want to know why most business analysts and venture capitalists simply don't get it with respect to Unix? Take a look at the computer books they study while working toward their MBA, financial analysis certificate or accounting designation, and you'll understand that their ignorance isn't entirely their fault."

    This is the first paragraph of the article. Now think about this. Basically what it says is that whatever the system (in this case educational institutions) feed them, that is what they believe. It is very sad to see that many professionals in fact do not spend the time to learn about their field outside of what is fed to them in the classroom. Their educational diet is pretty bad. If one really wants to know everything one can about a particular field, then one should take the time to read that which lies outside of the institution where they are learning it. Btw, this also shows how corporations are integrated with the education system. Never trust just one source for all your facts.

    True, it isn't entirely the fault of the student, but what do we do about it? One idea comes to mind, find more sources for information besides just a book your school was encouraged to buy.

    There is hope though. Linux is one very powerful example of how the internet has changed the way we find information and work together on common goals.

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  14. How about the article itself? by ron_ivi · · Score: 5, Insightful
    With all the talk about acronyms being modded up, let's not lose sight of the fact that this was one of the most intresting (from the perspective of open-source-in-the-real-world) articles I've ever read.

    I think he pretty identified the primary reason Linux has been slow to catch on in mainstream business.

    It's all fun having a bunch of geeks get together and talk about how great Howard Dean is and how c00| Linux is; but we're still very nieve when it comes to educating the decision makers in the world. I'd love to seem some discussion about how to get Linux written up in more business textbooks. I would have thought the RHAT IPO and IBM would have helped this; but wow that article showed that misconsceptions still abound.

    1. Re:How about the article itself? by s20451 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think he pretty identified the primary reason Linux has been slow to catch on in mainstream business.

      Too bad for him that he lost me (and unintentionally made a different point) in the second sentence (emphasis mine):

      Simply try to remember, next time you run into users who think Microsoft invented computing, that they got those beliefs from their textbooks -- meaning that they aren't necessarily as moronic as their opinions and that you can hope to reeducate at least some of them.

      This is the reason why most bosses are slow to pick up on Linux -- because most IT professionals treat it like a club rather than a serious operating system. If you don't get it, you are one of the morons, and you are excluded.

      A manager might see Linux on the same lines as s/he sees this or this, products designed to exclude the general public from the IT fraternity. The IT people think they are cool; the general public just sees nerds with toys.

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    2. Re:How about the article itself? by Merk · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Argh. Not this again.

      The wonderful appeal to the inferiority complex: "Look, there are a heck of alot of really smart people out there who can't even check their email. They make more money than you, get laid more often than you, and are probably happier than you."

      These days, if someone remotely involved with computers can't figure out how to check their email, then they probably are stupid.

      As for making money, or getting laid. Sure. There are bound to be people who are better or worse off than the average geek. But so what? Do you really want to be the rich guy who wrote spam software, who can't tell anybody what he did because it's so unethical? Geeks involved in the spam business probably make better cash than your average Linux enthusiast. What about getting laid? Sure, if you spend hours studying NLP you might be able to trick or coerce a girl into sleeping with you. Wow. Aren't you great. But really, sex is also the cause of a lot of problems: pregnancy, STDs, and an emotional rollercoaster. Wouldn't you rather be able to feel good about yourself, and have your partner feel good about you?

      The fact is, aside from perhaps being introverted, geeky, and male, the average Slashdot reader has something else in common: morals. Look how often freedom is mentioned here. Look at how the argument agains Microsoft is about their unfair actions. There's a cost for everything. If I cared only about money, I'd be making more than I am now, but many of my friends would lose respect for me. If I wanted to get laid more, I could treat girls like they were disposable, but I'd lose respect of my friends for that too. No thanks, I'm pretty happy with who I am.

    3. Re:How about the article itself? by CowboyBob500 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Come to work shaved, showered and neatly dressed
      I know uber-geeks don't really give a damn what anyone thinks right? Well clearly you care about how Linux and Unix is percieved or wouldn't be posting on this thread would you. You'd be amazed at how much easier it is to listen to someone who looks professional, or at least doesn't smell bad.


      This is the biggest load of bollocks ever. The idea of a "professional look" was invented by PHBs for PHBs to show other PHBs how they can afford the expensive Armani suit. It says nothing about how well you do the job. It's window dressing. I work contract and will turn down jobs that have a dress code since I know that I'll have to deal with shitty management if there is one. And the longest I've been out of work in 4 years is a 6 week holiday I took in Egypt.

      Bob

    4. Re:How about the article itself? by MagikSlinger · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Hi, sit down. Make yourself comfortable. I know this is a little disorienting, but this is the real world.

      What? Yes, in fact, 90% of the geeks in the real world do come to work shaved, showered and neatly dressed. In fact, a lot of them would do that even without work. I know, in your little fantasy world every geeks looks liks RMS, but this is the real world where, in order to get and keep jobs, they have to shave, shower and dress nicely. Most of our work places have dress codes, you know.

      I know, it must be scary for you. So many geeks aren't afraid of speaking in public, making their voices heard and arguing persuasively using logic and business language. Geeks tend to be the most outspoken people in an organization. Being a geek means learning new cultures and different ways of thinking. It's a hobby to a geek. I know, I know. In your world, geeks are quiet, meek and mumble. That's OK, you're in the real world now.

      Let's take a walk. Why, yes, they are very patient, caring people who really want their users to know what they know and to be productive. You don't survive long in this business if you don't.

      Oh, look, that geek is having a heart-felt conversation with a techno-neophyte boss. Notice how well it's working. That's because the boss doesn't treat the geek as an idiot child who must be restrained. The boss respects the geek's knowledge and listens, in turn, the geek understands the boss has a different set of bosses to answer to, and he's trying his damndest to help his boss. He's helpful, honest and works his damndest to provide the bosses the numbers and research he needs to fight for him.

      Why am I being so condescending to you? Why were you being so condescending to geeks?

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    5. Re:How about the article itself? by zaffir · · Score: 3, Insightful

      These days, if someone remotely involved with computers can't figure out how to check their email, then they probably are stupid.

      No. Not true. They're afraid of the computer, especially if it hasn't been set up properly. Many people have no clue what POP3, SMTP, SSL, etc. are, and couldn't configure them without a step by step tutorial. They're just too afraid of breaking something to try it. Why do companies need large tech support divisions? Because people can't fix things themselves. The computer is a mystery box that everyone knows will break/screw up, and they're scared that they'll cause some horrible catastrophe by messing around in the preferences. I have tried numerous times to ingrane the "if you mess it up, it can be fixed" way of thinking into my mother's head, but she still just can't bring herself to explore. True, she's less afraid of her Mac than her Windows machine at work, but she still doesn't want to break anything.

      Although if you by "remotvely involved" you mean "does some sort of work in the IT industry" I'll agree with you. ;)

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  15. If you write a computer textbook by IshanCaspian · · Score: 3, Insightful

    and you don't extensively cover OSS, the most significant movement in computing today..if you don't cover linux, which effectively runs the web, you're not doing your job. End of story.

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  16. I read the article by Hangtime · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How many times is Windows mentioned in these books? Our author does not include this in the article so if were making comparisons lets at least know the other side.

    Traditionally Unix and Linux have bastions in CompSci departments and MIS departments have skewed to the Windows world. Microsoft has heavily infuenced US business schools with low priced licensing and faculty sponsored research, Linux does not have this advantage. Alos, I would mention that Linux+Unices only have 8% of the marketplace while Windows occupies 85% therefore if Linux/Unix have 3 references and you see more then 30 references for Windows then it really is out of whack with reality.

    Outside of Slashdot and in the real world, Linux is a minority group, (not to say it will always be that way) and therefore will have less coverage because of it. (I am a fan of Trance music but I do not complain that my local Best Buy does carry the kind of selection I can get in a Miami independent record store devoted to Trance/Dance music). The store and also the author of these books are playing to the largest segment of the population. I would take a guess that more people know how to manipulate digital pictures on a computer then know how to use a Unix-based system.

    Finally, university textbooks are NOTORIOUS for being behind the curve when it comes to new developments in fields so you can't really fault the books for being behind the times when it comes to Linux, it is only since 1999-2000 that Linux began to get real traction in the marketplace.

  17. I like this quote from one of the books by Overdrive_SS · · Score: 4, Insightful
    "Java is a platform independent, object oriented programming language developed by Sun Microsystems. Java software is designed to run on any computer or computing device, regardless of the specific microprocessor or operating system it uses. A Macintosh PC, an IBM PC running Windows, a Sun server running Unix, or even a smart cellular phone or personal digital assistant can share the same Java application."
    That is a good description of Java. However, if they haven't heard much more than the book is telling them about linux, then how much do they know about programming? Do they have any idea what Object Oriented means? Do they know the advantages and disadvantages to using it? Do they care? For that matter, do they care if Java runs on multiple operating systems and microprocessors when the textbook itself is telling them all they need is Windows(with the possible exception of embedded devices)?

    I guess what I am getting at is that maybe we shouldn't teach them anything about IT or programming. Maybe we should teach them how to be humble enough to ask for advice from those of us who know that stuff, instead of pretending they know everything? I know we can be just as biased, but lets say you have a few knowledgeable employees, ask them all and make your best decision from that. I don't know how to manage others or run a business, I wouldn't try without getting input from someone who does first, why should they?
  18. its the institutions, not the textbooks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The noted symptoms are indicative of problems in education in general, not necessarily specific to MIS. Keep in mind that it takes a while for a textbook to get written, edited & published. Then it takes time to get it approved for use & curricula to be developed, then you have to wait for the next semester / school year to start. If you were to publish a current, accurate textbook today, you'd be lucky to get it into a classroom before fall 2005. Those students wouldn't likely hit the market until 2007.

    Now take a look at the mainstream press & how long it takes them to catch up to whats current in IT. If the journalists that cover this stuff on a daily basis take their sweet time opening their minds to new software / OSes / development styles, etc. how long do you think it will take a textbook publisher, much less a professor?

    When I was in college around the beginning of the last decade, the best class I had used business week to drive discussions. It was a great way to get up to speed with the current issues facing business. We were discussing biotech as 'the next big thing'. Note that this was back around the same time that Linus was writing the 1.0 kernel. The 3.5" floppy drive was taking over as a new standard. Internet? WTF is an internet?

    If you want to get current information to wet-behind-the-ears MBA/MIS types, you have to figure out how to convince academians that they need to have flexible curricula that changes as fast as technology. Not necessarily follow the bleeding edge, but find a periodical that will cover a wide range of tech issues.

    The problem isn't with the textbooks, per se, but with the academic institutions that continue to use old, out of date textbooks - which, in the tech field, any published textbook would be!

  19. Re:instructor doesn't get it by Tack · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I would have asked her who her instructor was, and then contacted that instructor to ask about the possibility about doing a guest lecture on Linux and FLOSS in general.

    The questions posed by the instructor indicate stunning amounts of cluelessness that, being involved in a LUG, would be almost a civic duty for you to clear up. :)

    Jason.

  20. A UNIX Book for MBAs by BlueQuark · · Score: 3, Insightful

    IT's funny since most of the hard core business operations run on either Mainframes (running MVS with UNIX System Services), a commercial UNIX, or Linux/FreeBSD (for slightly smaller apps) etc.

    How about a book called: "O'Reilly's Using UNIX/Linux guide for MBAs"

    Funny, at work, the senior Oracle DBA is a huge proponent of Solaris and AIX on big machines. He's almost done with his MBA. But then again he used to be a UNIX/AIX System Admin.

  21. Re:strikingly similar by paganizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hey, it's not just higher education.
    2 years ago, I had the option of sending my kid to a better public grade school; I decided to test the waters by meeting with a few of the teachers.
    I asked "what was the major cause of the U.S. Civil War?"
    and "is the U.S. a republic, or a democracy? whats the difference?"

    The answers literally scared me. in both schools, near identical, both wrong.

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  22. Re:Knowledge is *hard* by Gareman · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I started by studying for the Linux+ certification. It's supposed to be equivalent to what an admin would know after 6 months. I started knowing nothing, passed my exam, and now I've run Linux at home as my mail, web, and file server for over a year. I'm probably little more than an "instruction-manual-following monkey" but that's what happens when you don't know anyone who uses Linux and your Microsoft certified friends advise you against it.

    And yes, when things break, there's some flagellation, especially if it breaks X, but I've usually been able to recover through basic troubleshooting I've learned in the Windows world.

    As an MCSE with some Linux experience, do I recommend Linux to my bosses? Sure, but with many caveats, including buying commercial versions with commercial support and understanding what role Linux can play in an organization -- usually not as a Microsoft replacement.

    My advice is to stop making Linux the "elite" operating system. If an "instruction-manual-following monkey" can get the system up and doing what it's supposed to, mission accomplished.

  23. Re:Not Best Buy...Dell, HP and Gateway. by RedBear · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Most non-geeks have no clue, period. I'm constantly hearing from mostly educated people that they're having a problem using "Microsoft" or "Adobe", by which they usually mean Word or Excel in the first case and either Acrobat Reader or Photoshop in the latter case. But it could be just about anything. People simply have no clue how their computers work, they just see the brand names everywhere so that's what they remember.

    HOWEVER, people aren't entirely hopeless. If you sit down with them with a clear idea of what you're trying to explain, and explain that thing calmly and clearly in terms they can relate to, most will pick some of it up. If you calmly explain it a few more times, still keeping to terms they can understand, they'll get even more of it. We, the geeks, are the educators. The market and the education system has no desire to talk about something that doesn't make them piles of money.

    If we treat people with respect and keep our ideas clear, they will listen most of the time. Stick to real world examples that have or can affect them. If you can't come up with a real world example, maybe you should go back and rethink whatever idea you're trying to explain. If it doesn't affect them at all, why are you harping on it?

    Geeks are capable of changing the world, one non-geek at a time. Just have patience.

  24. Windows is being institutionalized by Angry+Pixie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Illinois Institute of Technology has a business school that offers an Information Systems program. I'd figure that there would be some synergies between the geek-side and the white-collar drone side of the school. I was wrong.

    The textbooks rarely mentioned UNIX or VMS unless it was during a discussion of ancient legacy database or EDI systems or a treatise on the history of client-server computing. There were courses that were specifically slanted toward certain products like Visual Basic, and ASP, with no mention of Delphi or PHP. Database discussions and case studies involving databases were always about Oracle or Microsoft products. There was never a mention of MySQL or PostgreSQL. Linux only came up because my boyfriend is an advocate. We'd discuss equivalent Linux technologies with professors. Those professors who were interested only felt that it wasn't worth it to try to teach those technologies to students since the students want to learn these sexy enterprise computing acronyms like ASP and .NET.

    To make things worse, the entire school network had been rebuilt using all Microsoft technologies on the front end and a couple of IRIX or SunOS systems on the back far away from prying eyes. The result was a complete divorcing of UNIX from all aspects of computing among the student body with the effect of new students not being exposed to anything but Microsoft Windows (including thin clients). This bothers me a lot since I feel my UNIX and VAX experience has helped shaped my understanding of computing more than what Windows has done.

    There is a perception of UNIX and Linux being institutionalized in the university system. UNIX is what was whereas Windows is what will be. Linux is for local chapter ACM members who have long hair and date ugly girls. Windows is for businessmen who drive luxury cars and get blowjobs from beautiful women they hardly know. UNIX is a typewriter in the age of Microsoft Office. UNIX is that mysterious blue box (SGI Indy) sitting in a basement office serving the school's webmail system, and the VAX is a hobbled workhorse that's being put out of its misery as I type.

    *Bang* Hear that? That was the sound of six years worth of my emails being erased forever as a VAX completes its last process.

  25. Re:Knowledge is *hard* by 0x0d0a · · Score: 3, Insightful

    My advice is to stop making Linux the "elite" operating system. If an "instruction-manual-following monkey" can get the system up and doing what it's supposed to, mission accomplished.

    Look, I'm not trying to criticize people that aren't using Linux. I'd say that it takes an equally long period of time to *really know* Windows. I just think that fewer people *really know* Windows. I know probably one person that *really knows* Windows, but I've run into many *IX admins that know an *IX system inside out.

    And I've seen clueless *IX admins as well, so I'm certainly not trying to make a statement about all admins on either platforms.

    How many Windows admins know (and I'm not a serious Windows guy, so I'm sure I'm missing crucial tools) Dependency Walker, Regmon, and Filemon around, for those times when *something* has changed and things aren't working? How many people could fix a system where Explorer has started refusing to boot, or would know what to start doing? What if a file association mysteriously didn't show up in Explorer and applications couldn't register that association all of a sudden? What if an admin password goes missing? What if some user tries installing Linux and blows away the Windows boot loader? I'm sure there are tons of Active Directory weirdnesses that a Real Windows Guru will know how to deal with that I can't even begin to describe.

    The thing is, I really think that the only way to learn a system is to use it. A lot. And fix it when something goes wrong. And it's really hard to do that if your primary system is Windows and most of the problems someone has you fix are Windows-based. The same would go for a Mac OS X fan who maintains a Windows server or two or (me, a Linux guy) for maintaining a major Windows installation at a Fortune 500 company. It'd be silly. It'd not because I'm stupid, it's just because I can't learn everything about admining a Windows system in a week or probably even six months. And because Linux is new, a lot of admins are being handed a training course, and expected to be able to fix all problems. Their bosses are going to expect that if something goes down, the system will be back up again shortly. So suddenly there is this huge mass of newbie Linux admins expected to handle critical Linux systems. A lot of them have no interest in ever learning more, and are going to stay right at that level.

    The fact that you're running Linux at home makes a pretty strong statement that you're interested in doing more than just yanking out the manual and never learning more than the ten things you had to do the last time something went wrong. Same would go for someone running MS Exchange or Solaris or Photoshop at home to learn it -- they aren't just doing the bare minimum to get by.