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Suicide Caught on Surveillance Tape Appears Online
Jason writes "Reuters reports (and News.com mirrors) that the video of a man who shot himself after his girlfriend broke up with him has appeared online under the heading of 'Introducing: The Self-Cleansing Housing Projects.' It goes on to say that the police officers receive no training to deal with privacy issues."
It came up a few minutes ago but not it doesn't!
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1) He was named "Paris Lane"? like some bastard cross between Paris Hilton and Lois Lane but about 10E8 less sexy?
2) This is low-incoming housing, right? where did he get money for a gun if the taxpayers are helping him pay rent?
3) does dead people have actual rights regarding privacy? I mean, pretty sure that there are laws against defiling a corpse, but suicide is considered felon in like 9 states anyway, and I am pretty sure felons get less rights than regular people... still beats getting your body dragged through the streets and buried at a crossroad w/ a stake through the heart, though (old english punishment for suicide)
4) erm... this appeared on a... pornography website?
I don't care if you mod me up or mod me down, somebody at least answer the questions
My life in the land of the rising sun.
Of course, since she presumably doesn't use the Internet (I'm basing this on her lack of knowledge of said Internet), someone could just tell her that it's been removed from the Web completely and she'd be less angry.
My point is that something being on the Web doesn't necessarily hurt anyone involved in it (though it most certainly can).
True story.
If it was a video of the mayor's son shooting himself I have no doubt the city would proclaim that some law or police regulation gave them the right to take it down. But in this case they are protecting a police officer from what most people would consider pretty repugnant behaviour.
Liberals call everyone Nazis yet they are the closest thing to it.
So what's the big deal? The Faces of Death commercial videos have featured stuff like that for years.
You mean that all these surveillance cameras in my apartment building are actually generating potential footage for whatever moviemaker might be interested in what goes on in my hallway? How about red-light cameras? Is someone using those to shoot movies too? We'd better stop scratching our noses at red lights.
If I pull out a gun at a press conference and shoot myself in the head, I should expect to appear in Faces of Death. But if I shoot myself in my apartment hallway, I would not be expecting to be downloadable afterwards. Someone here crossed a line.
I'd say he's been immortalized by the internet. I used to have a huge collection of bizzare, funny, disturbing, etc things collected from around the net. It was the most accessed section of the web-site. Whenever I'd forget to All Access Pass it, I'd do several gigs of transfer in a single day. I pulled it because it conflicted with my other interests. Like running a nice clean site. If you want to build a very popular site very fast, collecting internet pulp culture is the way to do it. If you can stomach it.
The mom should counter by posting embarressing pictures of her son so he's not remembered as that guy who blew his brains out. Perhaps as that guy who burned his eyebrows off when he was 12.
But somehow I don't think that will work as well.
Ben
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Or when the news anchors themselves commit suicide.
Here's the main issue - why did the cop think it was ok to pass evidence and/or private property outside the department?
Sure, it was video of a public act, but the tape was private property, and the cops had it as evidence. That a cop was stupid enough to let it out is a big problem. Next time it might be personal videos frmo a murder victim's closet.
"Hey, everyone else is running out to see Mel Gibsons snuff film. Whats wrong with this one?"
This guy's real, Jesus wasn't.
Say what you want about religion, but we're definitely sure the actor who played Jesus was not fatally harmed during the making of the movie. He was, however, struck by lightning.
Up watching late-night broadcast TV out of Milwaukee when the movie was interrupted by a late-breaking news story about a guy who tried sticking up a bar, which failed, so he then took some hostages. That went sour so he took himself hostage, and the media showed up during a prolonged standoff. After a minute or so of seeing the backs of people's heads, the cameraman got to an opening and the guy says "I do it now! I do it now!", put the gun to his head, pulled the trigger, and dropped like a stone.
Yesterday I took a piece of paper from District Court to the Police station, on it was an order to erase my record of arrest because I hadn't committed a crime. I asked for a reciept or confirmation that they had erased my records and they said there was 'no procedure for that, trust us'. Now I don't have proof that my employer won't find this particularly offensive record when they do occasional background checks (I work at a school).
Privacy of suspects and citizens surely is part of the police duties, if they can provide records they should be obligated to properly handle them.
"Sometimes, I think Trent just needs a cup of hot chocolate and a blankie." -Tori Amos on Nine Inch Nails
Why? Humans didn't evolve with videocameras around.
We don't deal with videotape particularly well.
It's a reasonable bet that whoever posted this wouldn't have immediately said this if he was standing right there when the guy blew his brains out.
It's not bizarre or unexpected for people to act differently to videotape than they do to real life. A lot of people on Slashdot would never say the things they do on Slashdot to people in real life.
May we never see th
Not all of the Google servers report off of the same dataset. As such there can be variations depending upon which system served your request.
The Supreme Court unaminously ruled that the right to privacy attached to family even if the person in the photos is dead.
Consider this other possible motive.
It's been over 40 years since JFK was killed and there are still all kinds of wild theories about it. With the few people who have seen the Vince Foster death scene pictures there are already all kinds of wild theories about it. Imagine how much worse that would get if millions of us were allowed to examine those pictures.
Is it really about his family's rights, or could this be about keeping a lid on it?
LK
"Hi. This is my friend, Jack Shit, and you don't know him." - Lord Kano
it seems no one wants to talk about it but I think it is essential we deal with this issue. Shouldn't we have the right to decide wether or not we should live? If anything I should have a say in wether or not I want to live at all shouldn't I?
CJ
Under "worst death clip I've ever seen" I believe.
Warning: It's fucking unpleasant - if you dont want to see nasty shit, don't click
Send lawyers, guns, and money!
Peh, alcohol is indeed a major problem, but America and the rest of the world have had such a long relationship with distilled beverages that it won't pass to quickly. Sadly abuse of any substance, from pizza to meth is part of a deep rooted psycological problem under the basic addiction to said substance.
As for in response to agressiveness, it can't be logically put forth that Americans are agressive and repressed based on our culture. Evidence has shown us in the past few months that the most violent and agressive culture comes from a particular religion that outlaws violence and carnal behavior.
I think the headline released with this video is distasteful, the person who wrote that should be sued for damages or put to community service. Unfortunately this has turned into a racial slur as well, objectivity is the key.
WITHIN this situation we can see that the young man wanted to be a rapper. EVEN more interesting; the fact that he shot himself because of falling short of his goal shows us that this rap culture is short sighted, failing, and pointless. Every person that I have known, heard of, or talked to in this business has an agrandized view of themselves, often is an egocentric person who does not care for anyone other than theirselves, and 90 percent of the time they are violent. Clearly it is the subculture here that lead to his death, Not American Culture, not violence in movies, not the legalization of alcohol and the absence of legal marijuana, and certainly not repression of graphic sexual conotation.
About three months back a report in the UK came out saying that cameras had not reduced the level of violent crime in city centres. But they had reduced the serverity of injuries incurred, becuase the emergency services could be alerted to trouble and its whereabouts quicker.
Cameras? I guess it depends on which end of the boot you are on.
Freesdom of information doesn't mean no secrets. It means people not being penalised for knowing something, and not being penalised for telling someone else. Right now, I can go to jail for longer than for stabbing a baby for passing on certain information to my friends (like digital information like mp3s). Thats _just wrong_.
People should be allowed keep secrets if they want to - but there should be a "barn door" doctrine for _all_ information - once the secret is out, it's out. If you're foolish enough to let me know your $WHATEVER_SECRET_NUMBER, it should be _your fault_. But neither of us should be punished for _that_. If I abuse my knowledge to harm you, _that_ should be a crime. But making knowing something a crime? That's just stupid. Fantastically stupid. The last time we tried that, the churches plunged my continent into a thousand year dark age, commonly known as "The Dark Ages"....
If anything else, it desensitizes us about humanity. Sure lot of bad things happen in the world but that doesn't mean we need to watch it night and day. Some people seemed to be obsessed with watching these stuff almost to the level that they are addicted to it. Now that is pornographic.
Yeesh, way to push your ideas on everyone else.
I hate to break it to you but death is normal. It's going to happen to ALL of us.
There are lots of people out there who absolutely hate this idea so they seek to aviod ANY reminder of it (not just suicides/murders).
Most of the people bitching in this thread wouldn't be nearly upset if this was a video of someone being BORN.
Is it sad if someone dies before their time? Yes.
Is watching some video on the internet going to make a healthy indvidual loose respect for human life? Hell no.
Hell, I play GTA all the time, killing people, steaing cars, etc. Am I "desensitized" to actual crime and violence? No.
You mentioned one end of the spectrum:
those obsessed with these type of videos and therefore death
At the other end of the spectrum there are those who don't want to acknowedge that death exists.
The majority of the people who watch this type video have a healthy viewpoint and are *gasp* curious.
In most modern societies we don't see death that often because our old folks die in nursing homes and hospital beds. People know that death is going to happen to them, but they've never seen it happen to someone else. They want to know.
If you watch this video and think "that's sad" you're normal. If you watch this video and think that others must be protected from seeing it or they will begin to see death as normal, perhaps your viewpoint could use a little adjustment.
While death is a big deal, it shouldn't be a "reality shattering" concept.
All that said, I didn't watch the video because it is a sad event. I just don't think it's right to claim that watching this would make you "desensitized".
Then again, look how offended we're all supposed to be about seeing a nipple! Somehow I didn't think it was a big deal. I must be "desensitized" right? It couldn't be that someone else has an unhealthy viewpoint.....
Life is too short to proofread.
For me, it's just to expand my experiences. It's not like I have a collection of suicide videos. But when this makes national news, I'd like to say to myself... yea, I saw that, and know what the fuss is about.
I don't have a collection of pictures of women having sex with a horse, but I have looked. And cows, ponies, and dogs. Lots of dogs.
We've all seen the goatse.x picture. And tubgirl.
I don't visit stileproject site every day, but 1 or 2 times a year, I will check the place out. Because of that, I know what a half-eaten man inside an alligator looks like. sigh.
I'd have to say that the most disturbing scene I've ever seen from the internet was a video of a man being stoned to death. "The Passion" had nothing on this. I felt like I had reached the bottom gutter of the human soul, and don't feel like coming back. I'm sure this suicide video pales in comparison.
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