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Gator Files for IPO to Raise $150 Million

michalas writes "Wired reports on the IPO filing of adware/spyware kings Claria who have recently changed their name from Gator. Claria on Thursday filed for an initial public offering to raise $150 million to continue developing its 'behavioral marketing platform.' Claria had a net income of $35 million on revenues of $90 million in 2003. In addition, Claria said it has 43 million active users and 425 advertisers."

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  1. Didn't you read the article, or even the summary? by Fubar411 · · Score: 5, Funny

    They are now Claria, that is so much less predatory than Gator. They were just misunderstood.

  2. I don't think so by AlienRancher · · Score: 5, Insightful

    " 43 million active users " Those are not users, they are called "victims"

    1. Re:I don't think so by bigberk · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Those are not users, they are called "victims"
      Fellow Americans, I present to you: our economy. Seriously though, Internet marketers have always been borderline spammers/criminals -- and yet, "we" support them by investing our money in their ventures. Can an economy based on this sort of crap really survive?
    2. Re:I don't think so by nizo · · Score: 5, Funny
      Amazingly enough, we haven't seen anyone post:


      1. Build up spyware company and infect millions of clueless people's PCs with your crappy software.
      2. Change name and then sell stock, ranting about how many "active users" your product services.
      3. Flee the country with ill-gotten gains.
      4. Profit! (Assuming you picked a country without good extradition treaties with the U.S.)

  3. Claria's "users" by CoconutFoobar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In addition, Claria said it has 43 million active users and 425 advertisers.

    I think 'infected computers' would be more likely. Whenever I tell people I can make those pop-ups stop by running Ad-aware, they are more than happy to remove themselves from this list of 'active users.'

    1. Re:Claria's "users" by harlows_monkeys · · Score: 5, Informative
      I think 'infected computers' would be more likely.

      You'd think that (and so would I), but we'd be wrong. There are a huge number of users who like that thing, and complain if anti-spyware sofware removes it (I know because I work at an anti-spyware company, and Gator is one of the ones we have to tread lightly with, because so many users actually want the damned thing).

    2. Re:Claria's "users" by jonwil · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Anyone who would actually WANT spyware, crapware and malware installed on their box needs to have their head examined.

  4. Active users? by WwWonka · · Score: 5, Funny

    Claria said it has 43 million active users

    ...of those 43 million "active users" only three are actually aware that they are running Claria's "product".

  5. 43 million active users by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Of which 7 know they are.

    1. Re:43 million active users by LostCluster · · Score: 5, Informative

      Gator's programs are not pure spyware because they at least provide some level of functionality. The first Gator offering was a personal-info remembering "wallet" that'd nicely fill in web forms similar to what the Google Toolbar's AutoFill feature offers.

      Another one of their schemes offers to download a program that will automatically sync your system time, which is useful to most people who notice that consumer PCs are usually pathetic at keeping a system time. However, I personally use the adware-free Automachron which provides the same useful function.

      So, they're really a bait-and-switch operation. They actively market utilities that people want, and are rather trivial to make.... and then tag-on their adware code for the ride. Better options for all of their offerings exist, but the public often doesn't know where to go.

  6. Well... by QuasiCoLtd · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The good thing about Gator going public is that their Financial Statements will tell us what advertisers are funding them. Makes for a nice boycott list.

    1. Re:Well... by Leebert · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The good thing about Gator going public is that their Financial Statements will tell us what advertisers are funding them. Makes for a nice boycott list.

      The ads popping up on desktops might give us a clue as to whom is paying for ads as well... :)

  7. 425 Advertisers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Does anyone know where to get a list of the 425 advertisers, so I know which companies to avoid?

  8. Getting the stock by PurpleFloyd · · Score: 5, Funny
    Claria's officials said that instead of offering a "normal" IPO, they would instead try an "innovative bundling strategy." When an investor purchases one of several popular stocks or mutual funds, they will find that a small Claria stock certificate has been Superglued to the back of their purchased certificate. Any attempt to remove or separately sell the Claria stock will automatically destroy both certificates.

    Also, Claria said their certificates represent "the latest in investor-tracking technology." Claria's executives plan to use the small audio monitoring devices embedded in each certificate to learn valuable insider information about upcoming shifts in the stock market. "This represents a new direction in the stock market. Never before have companies used their stock certificates as a way to gather valuable investor information," said Claria's CEO in a press release today extolling the virtues of Claria's new business venture.

    Addressing privacy concerns, he also mentioned that, "Anyone buying this stock knows exactly what they're getting into. We fully disclose all information about our monitoring technologies to anyone who bothers to break into our company's vault and read the encrypted data therein. Anyone who claims they were misled about privacy simply hasn't done the proper espionage expected of both parties entering into any contract. After all, if you don't catch us spying on you, it's your fault."

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  9. Re:When Pigs Fly... by Tantrum420 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sure they ask... You do read all the text in every little box that pops up, don't ya?

    The sad fact is that most people don't read _any_ text in any box that pops up on the screen. They just zero in on the "yes" "no" "cancel" boxes and randomly pick whichever one they think will make the pop-up go away the quickest.

    I mean, they were _trying to read_ something. They can't be bothered to change their train of thought and deal with this new mumbo-jumbo that just appeared on their screen. ...And people wonder why email viruses / worms still prosper.

    T

  10. 43 million users? by wheatwilliams · · Score: 5, Funny

    That would be like Hepatitis C Inc., boasting about their 500 million customers. This reminds me of Mel Brook's radio skit about the LMNOP Advertising Agency: "We just got the Cholesterol account. We're trying to move Cholesterol into the American heart. It's going to be tough, but we'll win. Advertising is a lot stronger than life."

  11. Crickey! by Scrameustache · · Score: 5, Funny


    Man, someone needs to go Steve Irwin on that gator's ass...

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  12. Claria has a very suitable name. by t_allardyce · · Score: 5, Funny

    Claria take their name from Chlamydia, a common sexually transmitted infection that many people do not know they carry. Someone in the advertising/PR department must have had a bit of fun with that one ;)

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  13. Re:When Pigs Fly... by Hogwash+McFly · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Your post reminds me of a trust certificate that came up on my screen today.

    "Always trust content from 'Click Yes To Enter LTD'?"

    And in the blurb:

    "By clicking yes you agree to have software installed on your computer that will dial up a premium rate phone line at a cost of 1.50 GBP a minute. You can disconnect by clicking on the Disconnect button or the connection will automatically disconnect after 13.33 minutes."

    Oh yeah and the source of this was a popup for some flash game site that said 'When the certificate pops up click yes to be able to play our huge selection of games! It came up when I was on www.cooking.com looking for a recipe for good roast potatoes. Obviously I prevented myself from downloading this crapware, but I still won't be visiting that site again.

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  14. Re:When Pigs Fly... by squiggleslash · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think you should be very wary of buying their stock, and if you do, read the small print on the stock purchase agreement. It may be that by buying their stock and installing it into your 401k, you agree to allow them to make modifications to your 401k, withdraw money from time to time, and present you with personalized advertising every time you use your ATM card...

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  15. Re:Why isn't there a freeware version? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I work at a computer help desk at a college campus. Off the top of my head, removing spyware/adware is 75% of my day's work. To put it bluntly, most of these "active users" aren't "active" in any sense of the word. What they are is "unwitting." Nine times out of ten, if I show a student what I find on their system, they haven't a damn clue how it got there, or that it was even there in the first place.

    That's the problem when you have spy-/ad-ware masquerading as legitimate software being offered third-party to a nearly computer illiterate culture. Let's face it, the majority of the people who own computers don't upkeep them like they should, and so Gator and their ilk can claim members. If the general populace knew enough to do basic maintenance, it would slash these farcical "active user" numbers, not to mention make my job easier.