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Why Mobile Phones Are Annoying

griffinn writes "Jakob Neilsen recently conducted a study comparing the perceived annoyance level of two commuters having a face-to-face conversation and one commuter talking on the mobile phone. Interestingly enough, subjects were also asked whether the ring tone is annoying, and people didn't find the ring to be particularly bad."

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  1. Can you hear me now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Switch to Verizon and you won't have to keep yelling can you hear me now. No seriously - CDMA which is used by Verizon and Sprint have positive feedback meaning that the phone continually transmits and receives; so what you say but what happens is you hear background noises and you perceive mentally that the person has your complete attention.

    With other vendors that use TDMA such as ATT, Cingular, TMobile they have to electronic introduce background noise because this technology doesn't continually transmit. They introduce clicks and pops to simulate background noise. This gives you the perception that you have to yell to keep the other persons attention.

  2. Ringtones? by ImpiousPunk · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How are those damn ring tones NOT annoying? "Hey look how cool I am with my 50 cent ring tone!" What ever happened to a plain phone, that rings, vibrates and stores contact information. I find the whole ringtone /instant messaging and even the internet on my phone quite useless.

    1. Re:Ringtones? by CaptBubba · · Score: 3, Interesting
      It may be useless to you, but it isn't useless to the cellphone provider, who more than likely charges some fee for every ringtone downloaded and ever IM sent or recieved.

      Normally you can go down the list of features on a new cellphone, and almost all of them will make the provider money in some way or another.

  3. Cell phone annoyance time in theaters by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    How about a study showing the time delay from when a cellphone rings in the theater to when people get mad, measured in milliseconds. In L.A. it must be higher than here,because we get people from there talkin on phones like it's their job, IN the theater, DURING the movie.

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    1. Re:Cell phone annoyance time in theaters by jawtheshark · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Well, I do everytime I go to the movies. Or better said, the last ad they pass just before the main movie is sponsored by a cellphone service provider. It used the THX surround system to make different cellphone ringtones come from about anywhere in the theather. It's a cacaphony of cellphones. When it's over on the screen they display "The movie is now beginning, please turn off your cellphone (sponsored by $CELLHONE_COMPANY).".

      I have never heard a real cellphone go off after that ad.

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  4. Very interesting hypotehsis... by ThogScully · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I rather like their hypothesis that people pay more attention to half a conversation than a full one and it seems it may be dead on. While I don't particularly listen in on others' conversations, I know I definitely overhear a cell conversation, even at normal volume, because having only half the conversation seems to leave my brain wondering and pondering the other half more.

    Although, I can't believe they don't think the rings are annoying. I just wish a phone could have at least one decent normal ringer now... I don't want a song, but there really aren't options other than those now. The most recent phone we bought was for my fiance and all the rings it came with were songs. We figured we'd download something normal and only found more songs. Ultimately, we just picked the song ringer that sounded the least annoying.
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  5. Two way by ParadoxicalPostulate · · Score: 3, Interesting


    I agree. What's even more annoying is those two way plans that work like walkie talkies. In such a situation, not only do you have to listen to the person talking but also their companion over the phone.

    " when I want to listen in, I only hear half of the conversation "
    Trust me, unless you are with a friend who's talking to another friend, you really don't.

  6. You know what is annoying by nberardi · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It is that I cannot get a good cell phone anymore that doesn't come with a camera, so I have to decide to either leave my cell phone in the car while I am at work or get a dumbed down basic cell phone.

    These manufactures really aren't thinking of the part of the market that buys the most cell phones, and that is the corporations, and most corporations have strict guidlines against cameras. So it really blows, and I hope they come to they senses and stop marketing to the teeny-boppers. At least they could put out comparable phone that doesn't have that camera.

  7. Here is South-East Asia by api_syurga · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In South-East Asia, where I am from, having a handphone is almost as important as being literate;you can't really live without it.You can but its hard to communicate long distance since public land-line phones are not well mantained and are in generally bad condition.Its no longer a matter of status/fashion statement.
    This is why public cell-phone ethics is a serious issue here.In general, the older ones have a tendency to talk too loudly, however I do noticed that the younger generations have learnt to speak as unobtrusively as possible, maybe realising the phone-speaker can actually pickup their voice without having to shout across the room.

    My 2 cents

  8. Try living in Asia for a while... by Enoch+Root · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Having lived for nearly a year in Shanghai, I'm all but immune to cellphones. As a matter of fact, I've been one of those people who not only leave their cellphone on in the theater, but actually take the time to answer if it rings. I kid you not, this is normal behavior here.

    And why not? In China, as well as most parts of Asia, cellphones are not an annoyance in any way. They're just a part of life. I think in the West, cellphones were initially thought to be annoying because they were an obnoxious show of money, and this has carried on to this day. In China and South Korea, having a cellphone is part of life and is not considered as annoying.

    Methink the people surveyed here thought a cellphone conversation was more annoying than a face-to-face conversation simply because it's, well, a cellphone conversation. We still tiptoe around cellphones in the West. For all I can see, this annoyance is purely cultural.

    (Earlier today, I saw a perfect picture of modern-day Shanghai: in a sea of bicycles, a man riding, and a woman seated in the Chinese way in equilibrium on the back of the bike with both her legs on one side... And as the man pedals his old rusted bike, the girl behind her is merrily thumb-keying SMS messages to her friends.)

  9. What gets me about cell phones by finkployd · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Someone walking down the street talking on a cell phone doesn't bother me, nor does someone sitting in a restaurant talking on a cell phone.

    What REALLY bothers me is when I'm sitting in a presentation at a conference (or something like that) and they repeatedly ask that people turn off cell phones or set them to vibrate. Then, naturally, someone's phones has to ring half way through.

    Now answer me this, what kind of fucked up individual sits there while someone clearly asks them to silence their phone and doesn't? What is the thought process? Is it "Well, everyone else is turning silencing their phones like they asked, but they couldn't have meant me" or is it more "I'm not going to silence my phone, I'll just assume that nobody will call me"? Or is it that these people somehow forgot that they HAVE a phone?

    I've never understood this but it seems to happen every time. Almost as if making the announcement before a presentation to silence phones CAUSES one to ring eventually.

    Oh, and the worst is when the phone is in some kind of bag or briefcase and the owner just ignores it like everyone around him doesn't know it is his and he doesn't want to give away that HE is the asshole. We all know it is your phone you goober, looking around like you are trying to figure out whos it is will not fool anyone so turn it off!

    There, I feel better now.

    Finkployd

  10. It's only a matter of habit by wizrd_nml · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Living in a country where mobile phone use is quite common and is not seen as being annoying in the least, it's quite strange for me to read all these posts about how they are perceived differently in the US.

    Let me first start by saying that I agree mobile phone use does have its etiquette, and certain limits should be respected (i.e. volume of the ring tone in a quiet place, such as a library).

    But I really think it's only a matter of habit. I believe if an American lived in Sweden for a while (a country with one of the highest mobile phone penetration rates), they would quickly get used to hearing phones ringing and people talking on them all the time, without feeling necessarily annoyed. It's the constant reinforcement by others in US society that mobile phones are in fact extremely annoying that maintains this perception.

    It's almost as if people go out of their way to get annoyed at someone talking on the phone. Because logically speaking, and as the article states, if you only hear half the conversation, you should only be bothered half as much. And if listening to just one side of the conversation is bothering you, then why are you listening in the first place?

    1. Re:It's only a matter of habit by kruczkowski · · Score: 3, Interesting

      About the volume - From what I have noticed is that US GSM is much quieter than European GSM using the same phone. I had mu Nokia turned up all the way in the States and could barly hear the person on the other end - but when I took that phone to Germany I had to turn ot down mid volume to hear just fine.

      Perhaps the companies what you to scream into phone just to show off?

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  11. Why mobile phones are annoying? by fuzzybunny · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They're annoying because..they're annoying.

    -The insipid ringtones (hi, Britney!)
    -The shouting
    -The uniformity of the conversation (I'M ON A TRAIN! WHERE ARE YOU?)
    -The blandness of what's being said (YES WELL I WAS SAYING TO MARGE THAT I REALLY LIKE THE FLOWERS AND MARGE SAID...)

    I've noticed that the people who speak more quietly on phones tend to make a more educated and lucid impression--they stick to a conversation, for them a phone chat isn't some HYPER-/<3WL 5H1T D00D, but a tool, and they understand that they don't have to yell to be heard.

    Maybe talking face to face with someone makes it easier for them to smack you upside the head when you say something idiotic.

    To be perfectly honest, when idiots converse loudly in person, it's equally irritating. But then, that's probably just me.

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  12. Re:I hate it... by BenjyD · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I think the problem is that the phone covers your ear, so you can't hear so well and the normal feedback that controls your voice doesn't work so well.

    Normal phones got round this by feeding back some of the signal from the microphone to the earpiece, so you could hear yourself speaking a little. Unfortunately, mobiles don't seem to do this.

  13. What really bugs me about cell phones... by josh+glaser · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...isn't the ring tones, or people using it in theatres (never had that problem), or even people talking louder. I'm sure they are annoying ring tones and people who can't comprehend "Please turn of your phones now" or people who go "HELLO?!?" and whatnot - it's just that they don't bug me (as much).

    Two things really bug me:
    1) You only know half of the conversation. So, naturally, the person that you can't hear is apparently the funniest person alive, and the person on the phone can't stop laughing, or then he'll act like he can insult you, and so he does, as if he forgets you can hear him, etc.
    2) You have the person over and you're hanging out with your friends and you're all having a good time, and then someone's phone rings, and they go and leave the room, or they just stay there (even worse) but they just kinda drop out of the party and all. It's like being socially antisocial or something.

    Just bugs me.

  14. Re:Here in CH by fuzzybunny · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Here in CH you also have a 100 CHF fine for using your phone without a handsfree set in the car. And here in CH you also have people (like me) who spend quite a bit of time on the phone with other people at the same time as working on a laptop in a train or at a desk away from a fixed line where I could plug in a bulky headset. Not to mention those of us who don't like untangling cables all the time.

    So I appreciate the fact that you said "most of the people" instead of "all the people".

    What's really funny is that a lot of people using cheap wired mikes end up holding the damn mouthpiece up to their face anyway while talking :)

    Regardless, I haven't seen a single bluetooth headset where the battery doesn't go to shit after a few months of use--my Sony Ericcson, while it was useful during its (short) life, is now basically a fairly expensive bit of drawer-filling junk.

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  15. Phones are annoying period. by Moribund64 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Why is it that when you go see a person and the phone starts ringing, they have to interrupt an important conversation to take of someone out of the blue?

    When doing service calls a few years back, I remember going to this customer and the receptionist was too busy answering the phone. After 20 minutes of "one moment, I'll be right with you" I decided to use the guest phone and call her up asking for the person I wanted to see. Manners are just out the window where phones are concerned.

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  16. Talking too loud.. Here's why.. by the_rajah · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If you'll notice, your regular landline phone supplies feedback of your voice through the earpiece. In the telephone industry this is called sidetone. I've never figured out why cell phones don't do that as well. Without the expected sidetone feedback, people tend to talk louder since they are not getting the feedback that they are accustomed to. "Do the Right Thing. It will gratify some people and astound the rest." - Mark Twain

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  17. No, it's the way the human brain works. by 0x0d0a · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The bad part is the loud speakers that really dont need a phone in the first place.

    I disagree -- I think I buy into the article pretty strongly, which says that volume is a minimal issue. I've tried paying attention to what irritates me about cell phones when someone is conversing on one, and my feelings click with what the study says.

    The problem is that normally, we respond when someone says something to us. Our brain is cued by it.

    The request-for-attention pattern this follows is someone saying something near us, followed by a period of silence as they wait for our response. As the period of silence increases, the likelihood that the message was directed at us (and we should respond and haven't) increases (hence the common pattern of someone saying something, stopping, and two seconds later someone looking up and saying "uh, did you say something to me" -- the "request for attention" sequence was sent).

    We are pretty good about ignoring conversation -- sitting in a crowded lunchroom, it's easy to let background noise fade into the background.

    The problem is that cell phone speakers follow our brain's "I am requesting your attention" almost exactly. So we're sitting here uncomfortably having someone grab our attention every two seconds or so. It's extremely disruptive when you're trying to think about something else. The only real fix is to start ignoring people that *are* trying to get our attention, which isn't great either.

    I would say that the primary issue is that we need a sensory input that would allow us to determine when someone is talking on the phone. Then our brain can learn to distinguish between "cell phone speaker -- ignorable" and "someone trying to get your attention".

    I think that a good solution would be to provide (surprise, more noise) a buzz, a sort of masked noise from the phone. When the person on the other end of the phone is talking, we get an unintelligable but audible buzz. It would be crucial that (a) the buzz not be an annoying annoying, (b) the buzz not be easily picked up by microphones (especially cell phones, so that feedback doesn't occur -- a filter is necessary), (c) that cell phone manufacturers standardize on such a buzz sound, so that people talking near each other on different cell phones don't interfere -- this would also allow people to more quickly learn to identify cell phones. I think that cell phone disruptiveness is largely a technical problem, not a social problem (though people talking in movie theaters still require a swift kick to the nuts).

  18. Close -- suggestion to fix impoliteness by 0x0d0a · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Close. The problem is that your system requires the users to actively make an effort to do things properly. I don't see that ever working, simply because people are lazy, and social pressure should only be used as a last ditch problem.

    The issue is that of the protocol.

    When a cell phone is called, it should enter the ringing state. At that point, one of two buttons can be hit -- "accept -- pending talking" and "reject". Currently, I believe that people usually just turn off their phone to do a "reject", so that much functionality is in place. The protocol should allow a "accepted, but cannot talk yet state". At that point, the person with the cell can extricate themselves from whatever situation they're in, and can find a quiet place to handle the call. They'd then hit the "ready to talk" button.

    This could interoperate with older, non-compliant phones by sending a text message (or brief audio clip saying "hold on") and then either terminating the call and calling back when "ready to talk" is hit, or simply opening the connection and leaving the phone speakers muted after the initial clip) until "ready to talk" is hit.

  19. I think it may be something else by Seekerofknowledge · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I have a different theory as to why people talk more loudly on cell phones.

    On a regular telephone you can hear yourself coming out of the speaker end just a little bit. I don't know if this is because your voice is travelling through the hollow plastic, or if the telephone system is actually designed to do that. Either way, how loud you are hearing yourself compared to the other person helps to give you some feedback into how loudly you actually need to be talking.

    On a cellphone, your voice just kind of travels off into nowhere. You don't hear yourself at all coming from the phone. Hence, you feel the need to talk louder, and louder, until you realize that , yes, you are talking loud enough.

    This is what happens to me all the time. I always feel that little "urge" that I'm not talking loud enough, and so I sometimes try to actively talk below my comfort level of loudness.

  20. Re:Carry a jammer by Lurkingrue · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I *am* a doctor, and I'll tell you, we *don't* use cell phones for anything "life-or-death". In fact, we're supposed to turn *OFF* our cell phones in the critical/intensive care units (where things are the MOST life-or-death), since they theoretically can interfere with the telemetry.
    Furthermore, if I am currently responsible for patients that may need my care at a moment's notice, for life-threatening situations, I can tell you I would *NOT* be taking in a movie, or out at a restaurant. I only go out when I'm off-service, or my pager's signed out to someone else in/by the hospital.