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Free Software at the Local Library?

DoraLives asks: "I live in a small town in East Central Florida, nearly in the shadow of the launch pads at Cape Canaveral. People generally expect that a place like this would be quite technologically advanced. Unfortunately, this isn't always true, and a case in point is the local library. They have a nice collection of CD's, and you might think you'd see Free Software CD's on the rack right next to Frank Zappa, Duke Ellington, and Bach. Think again, no such thing obtains here, or in any of the other libraries hereabouts." Aside from Linux and BSD install discs, what other pieces of software might make good items for the software section in your local public library? "I went and talked to the director of the local library about having them provide a Knoppix disk or something similar to those unfortunates, who cannot afford a high speed internet connection to download and burn their own copies. Mr. Director seemed quite unaware as to the entire concept of Free Software and asked me to provide him with a 'list of this free software,' for his review. So, as part of my research into what's available out there, I thought I'd run this one past the users of Slashdot and see what they might recommend by way of operating systems, utilities, applications, and all the rest of the free stuff that's available for download and burning, that would make good items for the shelves of a lending library.

Methinks the inhabitants of my little burg would be tickled to find out that the entire computing world is NOT owned by a corporation in Washington state. I further think that this could be a fine way to get the word, and the actual software, out to the masses. Am I right? Can Slashdot help me with Mr. Director's need for information so he can make an informed decision."

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  1. doopdy doop by insensitive+claude · · Score: 5, Informative

    Choice of titles aside, this subject has been covered before.

  2. Most library users are windows users... by centralizati0n · · Score: 4, Informative

    Windows open source software can be great, so check out the The Open CD. It includes such wonderful things as (in type-of-application order):
    OpenOffice.org, AbiWord, GIMP
    Mozilla, FileZilla, TightVNC, WinHTTrack, PuTTY
    Audacity, CDex, Crack Attack!, Sokoban YASC, Celestia, Really Slick Screensavers

    7-Zip, SciTE, WinPT, NetTime
    All of that would be great. Maybe even print up a little intro booklet to help the user in deciding what to install.

  3. Re:Why CDs? by Kenja · · Score: 1, Informative
    "Why not just set up a PC with a burner, post instructions and allow people to burn to their own CDs?"

    That would let people come in and make copies of the non-free stuff.

    --

    "Have you ever thought about just turning off the TV, sitting down with your kids, and hitting them?"
  4. Library demographics by karlowfwb · · Score: 5, Informative

    I work in a public library and my experience with the typical demographic of the library would lead me to believe that this would not be a big hit. Many of the patrons visit the library simply to use the internet, most of these people do not have a computer at home. Another large percentage are older folks, who simply want to read their mysteries. We do carry a moderately sized selection of (mostly educational) software, however that circulates very poorly.

    Perhaps this could be successful in a smaller library with a more technically aware demographic, however in your average public library, I don't think it would see much success.

  5. GNUwin by Slayk · · Score: 2, Informative

    Most of the stuff is rather old, but it is still good to have around. GNUwin

  6. Repeat Topic But I'll Chime In Again by Eberlin · · Score: 5, Informative

    I work at a city library with machines sponsored by the B&M Gates Learning Foundation. To pimp Free Software may incur the wrath of Redmond for an already underfunded library. We're already a frickin' MS Office infomercial as it is.

    I do, however, try to make sure people know and understand the costs of MS Software as well as the benefits of Open Source/Free Software. I recommend OpenOffice for those who don't want to shell out a fortune for word processing. I tell people about Mozilla Firefox and describe the benefits it has.

    I also have handouts with links to AVG Anti-Virus, Ad-Aware, and Zone Alarm. Not Open Source but "free as in beer."

    To offer CD's could become a support nightmare unless you pull a "Try at your own risk" thing. Last thing a library needs are irate patrons because they borked their machines trying to use/install software YOU supplied.

    If you are to do so anyway, go with OSS for Windows, first. OpenOffice, Firefox, GIMP. Then maybe the free-as-in-beer stuff I mentioned earlier for antivirus, anti-spyware, and firewalling. Then there's other stuff like Knoppix and bootable game CD's (America's Army?).

    In the end, there are quite a few considerations to think about when offering software from a library. You'll have political issues, can lose some private funding/sponsorships, and even have irate patrons who mistake your goodwill for tech-support-for-life.

    One of the irritating things I got to hear at the library was that when a student asked about BSODs and rebooting, the rest of the class said that it's a normal thing, and to get used to it. I had to tell them otherwise, and even then, they weren't fully convinced that instability isn't natural.

    Hopefully with stuff like free software cd's, and the knoppixes of the world, people will find that there are alternatives to MS. Maybe they'll even see its simplicity, stability, and practicality.

  7. Re:Gnu Win CD by LostCluster · · Score: 4, Informative

    There's also The Open CD which is a similar project with the same purpose... point-and-click installs of several useful apps.

  8. Start with Windows apps by spiritraveller · · Score: 5, Informative
    Rather than focusing on Linux itself, I think the best approach to get people using free software is to give them software that works with the operating system they already have.

    Most people will switch to free software gradually, not suddenly with a complete operating system replacement.

    They may eventually switch to Linux, but that will be much easier for them if they are already using software that can be used under both Linux and Windows.

    Therefore, I think the best thing for most people would be a cd filled with easy-to-install Windows versions of programs such as the following:

    * OpenOffice 1.1.1
    * Mozilla Firefox (web browser)
    * Mozilla Thunderbird (email and usenet discussions)
    * Mozilla Sunbird (calendar)
    * Nvu (based on the old Mozilla Composer web-design app)
    * Mozilla Suite 1.6 (for those who prefer it all in one program)
    * Pan (usenet binaries)
    * gaim (chat client)
    * The Gimp (to replace Photoshop

    There are Windows binary downloads available for each of these programs...

    You might also make a version of this disk for Mac OSX users. But by this, I mean apps that run natively, not through an X server. Fink is great, and you might want to have a disk that lets you install it and some of its packages... but running an X server is a little complex for the average user.

    Apps that run natively under OSX that I know of:

    * Mozilla Suite 1.6
    * Mozilla Camino (a more lightweight browser)
    * NeoOffice/J (a version of OpenOffice)

    I am sure there are other native OSX FOSS apps... but those are the ones I know of.

    Of course there's no reason you can't provide 20 different Linux distributions and the entire contents of Sourceforge... but I would focus on Windows and Mac apps, and Live-CDs so people can get their feet wet with FOSS apps without committing an entire system all at once.

  9. Project Gutenberg CD by j1m+5n0w · · Score: 4, Informative

    A cd of Project Gutenberg books would be a reasonable thing for a library to carry. Staring at a screen isn't the best way to read a book, but I've read quite a few that way.

    Some of my favorites (Some of which I read in dead tree format, I'm not masochistic enough to read Les Miserables via CRT):

    -jim

  10. Which library? by DoraLives · · Score: 3, Informative

    Cocoa Beach

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    Is it fascism yet?
  11. opencd anyone? by seringen · · Score: 2, Informative

    For more information, check out www.theopencd.org

  12. Windows Update by Student_Tech · · Score: 4, Informative

    Microsoft offers Windows Update CDs every few months for free from them. Perhaps get a few, http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/cd/order .asp

    Of course if everyone using the library has broadband it might be kinda mute, but it would be useful for everyone else.

  13. Re:Why CDs? by WhiteDragon · · Score: 2, Informative
    That would let people come in and make copies of the non-free stuff.
    Yes, and they have a photocoper at the library. It is not the job of the library to force patrons to obey the copyright laws. That is the job of law enforcement (in the case of criminal violation). Most libraries I have been to have big signs all over near the photocopier explaining exactly what copyright law allows to be copied, and what is forbidden. They could have similar signs at the computer for burning CDs. Alternatively, they could have a computer set up as a kiosk that would only burn certain preapproved images.
    --
    Did you mount a military-grade, variable-focus MASER on an unlicensed artificial intelligence?
  14. Re:Why CDs? by JonBuck · · Score: 5, Informative

    Bit of a problem, here. FYI, I'm a librarian myself.

    CDs cost money. The PC costs money. Libraries don't have that kind of budget. Even if only a hundred people per year make that request, the costs would include:

    1) Media. Including bad burns that must be discarded.
    2) Computer time. Libraries often do not have state-of-the-art equipment. The computer doing the burning might not be able to do anything else while it's running.
    3) Staff time. Something that is often missed. While this could be delegated to a library assistant.

    Imagine what would happen if that number increased tenfold. We're talking thousands of dollars. It would be better for them to burn one or two sets of CDs and have them available for circulation, and simply replace them when they wear out. If a patron wants to purchase a CD copy for themselves then they would have to pay for it. Or they could do it at home.

    I can see this as more viable in academic library settings. OpenOffice and other Free Software alternatives will help students get the type of software they need to write papers, create presentations, etc.. For public libraries... well, that would be up to the individual library.

  15. gave Project Gutenberg to FL school by Doug+Merritt · · Score: 2, Informative
    I would thing that the best thing a library could have is a copy, be it a mirror, dvd, cd, of Project Gutenberg

    I actually did do that, I made a multi-CD copy of the entirety of Project Gutenberg and gave it to my sister, a schoolteacher in central Florida, for her gifted classes, and a copy to give to her friend, who's a librarian in that area.

    It was a very novel notion to them, so I don't know that it ended up getting used (I'm too many thousands of miles away to check), but I gave it a shot...

    --
    Professional Wild-Eyed Visionary
  16. Re:Burn from ISOs only by Fibonacci+Ceres · · Score: 2, Informative

    I think you've misunderstood my suggestion.
    Assuming that the local library will agree
    to host the machine and provided electricity,
    no 'net connection of any kind is needed.
    The ISOs are stored on a large HD and updated
    at most monthly by a member of the LUG. The
    library's staff need not be involved beyond
    pointing out the kiosk, providing help in
    finding GNU/Linux library materials and
    selling blank media to the interested public
    in such a manner that they recoup any cost of
    hosting the machine. The LUG can donate the
    machine to the library and have one or more of
    its members write the interface and provided
    maintenance and updates as needed.
    Note that this does not preclude the same
    library from lending copies of Knoppix, Debian,
    Mandrake and Fedora just as they do CDs of
    everything from Bach to Barry Manilow.
    The point is that many more distros can be
    hosted on the machine than the library is
    likely to want to keep track of as part of
    its standard lending service.
    The cost to the LUG is that of the machine,
    continued administration and perhaps written materials or paper disc sleeves with the LUG's
    name and contact information prominently
    stamped on each one.
    Having a library hosted machine or kiosk will
    (Free Software! - See reference desk)
    create far more interest than simply placing
    donating a few copies which people will likely
    bypass on their way to something else. This
    is about GNU/Linux outreach for people who
    have heard little or nothing about alternatives
    to the dominant OS and weren't looking for it
    when they arrived to return the John Grisham
    novel they borrowed two weeks ago.
    My take on human nature is that Joe Sixpack is
    more likely to buy a CDR to get "free" software
    than he is to borrow (at no cost) something he knows nothing about. YMMV.

    There's a .sig around here somewhere...

  17. TheOpenCD, of course. by moquist · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://theopencd.org

    I think TheOpenCD is a tremendous evangelism tool, because it meets the newbies where they are. Without forcing them to learn what an Operating System is, without making them install one, and without making them learn all-new apps all at once, it gently introduces them to some great FOSS apps. The CD automatically runs a program that browses the applications available on the disc, and it includes categories and helpful descriptions of the applications. It even has essays by RMS and ESR.

    Full Disclosure: I'm co-founding Software Freedom Day (http://softwarefreedomday.org/) with the maintainers of TheOpenCD project.

  18. From a librarian's point of view... by jim_deane · · Score: 2, Informative

    Ever since I started working at the public library in my town, I have been slowly adding to the collection of non-Microsoft guides, books, and software.

    Unfortunately, due to the draconian rights management practiced by some commercial companies over the past twenty years, the concept of "making copies" of software and "giving it away" strikes fear into the hearts of upper management, many of whom haven't actually learned anything about software since their library master's program, when computers were XT class machines, a library would be lucky to have just /one/, and no library ever heard of an internet.

    One thing that someone (and I may take up this charge) should do is write an article for the Library Journal or another of the librarian-professional publications. Describe the history of free/open software, describe the licensing issues, answer the obvious questions that arise from the Microsoft-addled point of view, and then review a number of free software items. Knoppix and several different flavors of Linux, various flavors of BSD, office software, and other applications.

    Then describe the market! Who can use this software? Who /does/ use this software? Why is this important to the people who use the library?

    Find out if your library has a geek on staff, and whether they have a CD burner. If they don't, or they aren't willing to donate the CD's, how about printing up some decent labels, burning the CD's for the library, and donating them?

    In doing this, you would reach the majority of the professional library staff, and show something of the community spirit which has made free/open software possible.

    Believe me, the librarians are your best friend in this endeavor. You might even find that the younger technical librarians (the kind that maintain the computers, do cataloguing, web page maintenance, and databases--you know, the 'back room' librarians) are already Linux/BSD/etc. geeks, just itching to help promote the cause!

    Jim D.