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Many Internet Users Happy With Dial-Up

prostoalex writes "With cable and DSL operators constantly pushing the values of broadband, and with the President of the United States himself announcing broadband access a priority, the New York Times reports (free reg. req.) that some people actually are perfectly satisfied with their 56K connection. In February 2003 Pew Internet conducted a survey, where they found out 60% of dial-up users weren't interested in switching, a year later in 2004 the percentage was roughly the same."

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  1. well. the logic is simple. by JVert · · Score: 5, Funny

    not everyone is interested in making first post.

    1. Re:well. the logic is simple. by TheSpoom · · Score: 5, Insightful

      IMHO it is pretty simple actually. Average, email- and browser-using people don't want to spend an extra $10 / month for what they consider to be a hassle to setup. People fear change, and judging by my work with people who have obtained broadband connections with one company but are still paying AOL $10 / month for basically an email address, they might have a point. There are people out there that want to take advantage of their ignorance.

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    2. Re:well. the logic is simple. by JPriest · · Score: 5, Funny
      Actually I think that is closer to:

      I don't want to spend $50 a month just so hackers can set my computer on fire, impregnate my wife, and steal my inner child.

      That and,
      I don't know what I would need the extra speed for, all I use is AIM and email.

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    3. Re:well. the logic is simple. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      How often do you need that? Is it worth the extra money to you? If so, then great. But in my case, it was cheaper to buy a USB memory fob and just download what I need at work or at the library. Plus I get to keep the fob.

  2. In other news.. by Adam9 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Most people don't wish to pay for premium channels with their cable subscription.

    1. Re:In other news.. by RetroGeek · · Score: 5, Funny

      Most people buy Hondas not Ferraries.

      Most people eat hamburger not fillet mignon.

      Most people buy at WalMart not Maceys.

      Most people....

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  3. silly people by untermensch · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This boggles my mind, I couldn't live without broadband.

    I'd be very interested to see how many of these people have ever experienced broadband, and if their attitudes would change if they had.
    I realize that broadband can be overkill for many people, but even casual web-surfing can be painfully slow on dial-up.

    Oh well, more bandwidth for me :)

    1. Re:silly people by Mateito · · Score: 5, Insightful

      > This boggles my mind, I couldn't live without broadband.

      At work: T3, DVD-Burner, USB Flash drive.

      At home: USB port, DVD-reader. 56k modem for emergencies.

      Total mantenance cost: around $4 a month on top of my phone bill.

    2. Re:silly people by Erratio · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Some people just have better things to do than spend their time on the Internet. I've dealt with about as fast of Internet connections as they come, and I don't have a problem with dial-up (which I was just using for a month). Once the novelty os the speed wore off, the vast majority of information I deal with over the Internet is either text, or something that I'm willing to just have download in the background while I do something else...normally something far more productive than getting sucked into wasting my time on things like /..

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  4. Maybe... by tomcrick · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...but have they actually had the chance of using broadband to compare it to dial-up?

    Definitely the case of 'once you've tried it, you'll never go back...'

    1. Re:Maybe... by bee-yotch · · Score: 5, Interesting

      This is exactly the reason for these stats. There's not a single person I know who's used broadband for more than a month that would be willing to switch back to dial-up.

      Give all those people 1 or 2 months of free trial broadband, and then force them back to dial-up and I garauntee that those percentage's will change pretty fast.

    2. Re:Maybe... by phamlen · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually, I am one of those who used to have high-speed and now I don't.

      My logic is pretty simple:
      1) I have high-speed at work for anything serious.
      2) When at home, I really don't want to spend time on the Internet. I get to read, garden a little, talk to my wife, generally behave like a non-geek.
      3) When I had high-speed internet, I would always be on. It's addicting.

      So I discontinued my cable-modem. I can honestly say that I much more enjoy saving the $40 than the experience of high-speed internet (but maybe just because I get that at work.) Still, it's remarkable how much you can do on the Internet over a dialup. Google, for instance, is fast even on a dialup (as is the Google cache.)

  5. Duh! by Sylver+Dragon · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Ok, why is this a suprise to anyone? Many users do nothing more than look at a few pages and send/receive email. For them, that is the internet, that's all they want and care about. So, for those the people, there is no reason to pay the extra for broad band. When you can get dial-up for US$10/month a month, or less if you are willing to put up with ads, and basic broadband starts at US$30/month, is it really worth it to get your email a second or two faster?

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  6. I can relate to that by toygeek · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As a sysadmin at a small to midsized web hosting firm, I find that dialup is all I need. I have tried time and time again to justify broadband at my house but as a single income household with 2 kids and my disabled wife, I can't afford it and do not really need it. If I need something that's broadband only (Latest distro ISO or something) I login to my server here at the NOC (45MB DS3) and download it there. Then I grab it on my laptop the next day at work. NO BIG DEAL. Even if I did not have 45mb/sec here at work I would still be OK with dialup. Heck most of us just check mail right?

    Seriously though, the most I do is check mail, a few forums, and some web publishing. All low bandwidth stuff. So, I agree with the story. Broadband is nice but not necessary.

  7. Do the math by tagishsimon · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So at any given time, 60% of dialup users do not want to switch. 40% do switch. Next year, 60& want to switch => some of the original 60% must have switched sides to the 40%.

    In other news: dog bites man.

  8. E-mail's more popular than anything else... by LostCluster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Let's consider the users who do nothing but e-mail with their Internet connection...

    - Faster speed is not much of a benefit to them. They don't download images very often, and they're fine with walking away from their computer for however long it takes while those downloads happen.
    - They don't particularly care about their phone callers getting busy signals, they don't get that many really important phone calls anyway.
    - To them, changing e-mail addresses would be a nightmare. Some are even clinging onto address that they've had since 1994. The ISP may have gone defunct, but the old domain name is still being supported by the ISP that aquired them. Look at all the legacy domains Earthlink is still supporting.
    - And, we're also talking about people who hate monthly bills. For retired people, they plan their budgets very carefully and even a $10/month difference bothers them.

    Bottom line... not everybody wants an always-on Internet connection. Sure, everybody reading Slashdot who doesn't have one wants one... but there are a lot of people in the USA who wouldn't even know what Slashdot is.

  9. Finite and ever-dwindling... by brundlefly · · Score: 5, Insightful

    60 percent are satisfied. That means 40 percent want to switch. If you estimate that half of that 40 percent will actually switch to broadband, then the number of modem users has shrunk by 20 percent.

    So instead of saying "60 percent of modem users are happy", you could just as easily say "modem market shrinking by 20 percent per year". Most analysts would call that a dying industry.

    Lies, damn lies, and statistics. It's all how you spin it. (i.e. no story here, move along.)

  10. Kind of like slow soda drinkers by The+I+Shing · · Score: 5, Funny

    Some people will happily drink soda or juice through what is, in fact, a coffee stirrer. Much smaller than a straw, but it acts enough like a straw to make it useful, even though the transfer rate is considerably slower.

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  11. It's quite strange... by fordboy0 · · Score: 5, Funny
    A couple of my friends are dial-up only and quite content. Actually, one of them is a JSP and Oracle guy, who works for the gov't. The really humorous part to me is that he has no knowledge of how computers *work*, but he is one hell of a programmer.

    I also seem to notice that the friends without broadband seem to accomplish more and lead happier lives. Their lawns are not 8" tall all the time, the cars are always clean and they seem to keep a more tidy abode. Coincidence? Hmm...

    Now where did I put that Slack ISO? Ahh, I'll just download it again. While I'm doing that, I might as well go check out Slashdot or Fark. My grass can wait 'til another day. Like I care what the neighbors think...

    Thank God for broadband.

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  12. always connected... by yintercept · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The main thing I like about DSL is the persistent connection. If I need an internet resource, I can grab it quickly...without having to wait for the modem.

    The people I know who are staying with phone lines do so because they like getting all of their internet chores done is a single short session.

    I think the overall download speed really is a secondary issue to how you organize your online time.

  13. Re:Do they know any better? by Dun+Malg · · Score: 5, Informative
    I don't know what call costs are in the US, but in Australia, you're generally paying 20c a call to dial-up.

    One of the peculiarities of US phone service left over from the old AT&T monopoly is that all but the cheapest of residential plans allow free unlimited local calling. You can get straight metered service to save a few bucks if you never make any outgoing calls, but usually only the forgotten elderly do that. Back in the old Ma Bell days, local service was pretty well subsidized by expensive long distance rates. Perhaps it was to encourage residential phones so businesses would have someone to telemarket to...

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