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Reasonable Salary for Entry Level Programmers?
An anonymous reader asks: "I will be graduating from college in May with a degree in computer science. I have begun the job search and gone on a few interviews. So far I have gotten two job offers which I am thankful for, but the salary seems low. I am not saying that I am too good to pay my dues and work my way up, but I could make more waiting tables. It is somewhat distressing that I have spent 4 years of college and years before that developing my programming skills. I am not trying to get rich, but I was hoping that the high level of skill required would account for something(no offense intended to waiters). Can anyone give me any insight about what a reasonable starting salary would be, for an entry level software engineer?"
...but it'll probably be paid in rupees.
The CB App. What's your 20?
You found a programming job in America?
Approximately 3 outsourced India worker salaries per year.
The coolest voice ever.
http://www.salary.com
(Average Indian Wage) + (25% outsourcing overhead) + (25% less-likely-to-die-from-unstable-political-climate premium) + (25% understands lame jokes from upper mgmt premium)
There are a huge number of yeast infections in this county. Probably because we're downriver from the bread factory.
"...It proves you can learn,"
I know a lot of college grads that prove you wrong Sir.
Note to self: No more arguing with the faithful.
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$175K-$200K per year with a high school diploma and %10 more for each year of education after that. Don't take anything less than $150K a year to start.
I made 28K on my first job as Jr. Programmer.
In 1995, I was making 55K
2001, I was making $60 per hour
2002 60K per year
2004, 400 a week with unemployment.
The look on my wifes face when I told her we were going to have to move into one of her moms houses, priceless.
For everything else, there's Bahnglor express.
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Actually, you'd likely get promoted to management and get lots more money, provided you can spout enough gibberish about "synthesizing core energies" and other such things.
Unless of course you apply at Microsoft's security department...
Have you hugged your penguin today?
do you have any openings*?
*A curse on the first person who replies with a link that has the letter c and x anywhere near the word goat.
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That's just crazy talk! Those two traits are unwanted in investors, politicians and even voters!
The bitter lessons of a veteran coder: http://bitterprogrammer.blogspot.com
for me too - I'd love $384k per year too...
I believe the PHB term is synergizing core energies
Can I get an eye poke?
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Not to be too much of a downer, but here's one for $70 a week - and you will find lower salaries than that posted on this site here
Shit, even if I would mutiply, I'd still be at 0 a hour...
I disagree as well, but only because I know too many guys with man-boobs.
Sounds like every jackass liberal arts professor I had while attending Uni. I think they were bitter that they needed to get a PhD to get anywhere with their worthless area of study.
Wow! Who's bitter now?
Treehugger? Treehugger... Treehugger!
It's energizing core synergies.
Ask me about my vow of silence!
Stock options...
Given the economy and your work experience, I would highly recommend considering TRADE rather than a pay salary. First of all, you will get the ink you need on a resume but depending on the field you choose there can be plenty of perks. For example, I started working for a pornographic web site right after getting my degree from a prestigious school online. I was given a a square meal (as much love-box as I could eat) and a roof over my head (but keeping it involves more sleeping around than sleeping). Money can't buy everything ... Well .. Unless you live in vegas. But money can't buy love because love means you can kiss on the lips too. You have to trade for that, and thats where you skills as a pornographic website operator come in handy.
So what you're saying is that women are like evil hiring managers?
http://www.newtechusa.com/ppi/main.asp
There exists no way of exchanging information without making judgments. --Bene Gesserit Axiom
I graduated 18 months ago, and have applied for over 100 jobs - and not ONE single interview...
What's worse is when employees look at your resume and say
"You're overqualified. Why do you want to work here."
My answer
"I would like to make my car payment. Where else am I going to live???
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learn from yesterday, plan for tomorrow, party tonight
or one out of three ain't bad
It proves you're willing to work cheap.
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Glonoinha the MebiByte Slayer
2. Get and keep a security clearance. Don't let it lapse. Don't do drugs or, God forbid, marry a non-U.S. citizen. Always pretend that you agree with everything George says and repeat after me: "Hanging is too good for anyone from France".
Whoops... my wife is a citizen of a country whose official religion is Islam (Malaysia), we travelled together around India a few months ago, my brother married a French citizen last year, and my little sister's in France RIGHT NOW.
I'm staying away from drugs, though -- think I might still get clearance?
There are only 10 types of people: those who understand decimal, those who don't, and, uh, 8 other types I forget.
...when you get disclaimers and financial advice in one post!
Let me get this straight, all I have to do is submit myself to a brain-washing muscle-head organisation, don't speak my mind or follow the (possibly) love of my life, agree with George Bush and then I'll be guaranteed a job..? Maybe I could live without the first 3, but agree with George Bush ???
I think I'd rather struggle to get a job, that is, IF I have to struggle...
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Ah yes, waiting a long time for a clearance, that brings back a lot of memories, like when a coworker and I were waiting for our TS/SCI's (with acronyms like that, please forgive my AC posting).
We didn't have a thing to do for months, we basically got paid to sit around and do nothing for several months. We were in a medium sized room subdivided into about 8 cubicles. The lights in the room were controlled by a motion sensor over the door, and if we were still for a long time at our cubes then the lights would go out. It didn't take much movement to set the sensor off, but we were so bored one day that we decided to see if we could actually move slowly enough to walk out the door without turning the lights on. Well, we were about 5 feet from the door when someone walked in and ruined about an hour of our "hard" work.
Strangely enough, this excersize proved to be very good training for doing government work!
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You really must be more careful starting posts with "In Soviet Russia"...I spent 10 seconds looking for the punch line.