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World's First 1GB Web Mail May Not Be From Google
xPertCodert writes "According to
this article, the world's first 1GB web mail is not going to be Google, but from the largest Israeli web portal. With 30Mb per attachment, it seems to be quite useful as well. Looks like an idea of extra-large e-mail storage is becoming really hot these days."
First 1GB email service? First of all, what is Spymac, chopped liver? They already have a free email service with 1GB of storage.
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attachments that end in .rar or .r[0-9][0-9] :) I swear, I was only "checking my email".
This definitely seems like an attempt to steal Google's thunder, but you have to ask if an Israel-local portal company really has the global reach that Google has to be able to offer high-performance ad-supported e-mail to everybody.
I'm not quite sure that they're going to have enough non-local ads in order to serve the world in the way that Google now seems pretty confident in its global geotargeting systems.
I really needed that for all that spam...
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Spymac already offers 1Gig Email for free. Gmail's conversations sound like the most useful feature of their service. beta review
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In other news, world's first 1gbyte spam messages began circulating late yesterday afternoon.
Why a 30MB attachment limit? They could just say 50TB attachment limit and nothing would really be changed since most mail servers have a 5MB attachment limit, at most. Very few of them have a bigger limit.
But..
a) Unknown and unheard of company
b) Physically quite a ways from most wired countries, as opposed to widespread google (Akamai?) servers
c) Israeli only so far, vs. however many localizations (let alone simple translations) google/gmail has/will have.
d) None of the advanced searching/sorting features that Gmail has been promising and actually do sound fairly nice.
Stuff.
1 GB is a lot of information, and it has to cost a decent chunk of money to allocate that much storage for every user, and to pay for bandwidth for 30MB attachments, and for the rack space and electricity. How are web portals like google making back the cost of 1GB email?
Everyone with a Gmail account, including myself, knows that email storage space is not the only part of an effective email system. The Gmail interface is so simplified, efficient, and intuitive, that there will probably not be anything coming out that can compete with it. (ask people who both have Gmail and Spymac and see what they think)
Not only that, but the Israeli service requires money whereas Gmail is free. I am confident that Gmail will be the only truly successful free gigabyte email service.
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These services offering large attachment sizes, how useful can they really be when the majority of users cant recieve the files due to limits set on their mail server?
Sending huge attachments is nice and everything, but it's only going to work if your friend has a gmail/spymac acount (or thier own mail server) too..
I would like to announce that I am now the very first Slashdot user to point out that Spymac.com offers a 1GB email service. That's right, you heard it here first. (and, uhh, don't scroll up.)
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Why a 30MB attachment limit? They could just say 50TB attachment limit and nothing would really be changed since most mail servers have a 5MB attachment limit, at most. Very few of them have a bigger limit.
So... if I wanted to make an attachment and my mail server didn't allow anything over 5MB (and under 30MB), I'd be screwed, right?
Wait! There's a free webbased email service that offers 1GB of space and has a 30MB attachment limit!!
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3 years ago I had over 1200 megs of emails, spam, and attachments through my email provider sitting on their server. They never cared, they told me that as long as they have the free space, and that I dont go over 2000 megs, I would be fine. This wasnt a small provider too, it was a company owned by dsl.com.
Is the big difference here the fact that its offered as a 1000 megs of space? Im sure many providers dont monitor disk usage for email if you go through small isp's, Ive never had a problem with them.
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to those to dumb to work a CD-RW. I mean that. I talk to people all the time whose computers are hosed, but they can't format and reinstall because they couldn't figure out how to write their god damned crap to a CD. With this, let'em send an email (they've already figured out email usually) and download the stuff later. Sure, it's a ridiculously dumb, slow way to back up their data. But hey, if they weren't too dumb to figure out thier CD-RW I wouldn't be posting this comment.
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The observations in his post are both accurate and appropriate.
This is accurate and appropriate:
I'm German, so I feel qualified to answer this comment. Given the choice between an Israeli webmailer and Google, I'd choose Google.
Without taking into account features, performance, etc. etc. he picks Google based on the fact that the other one is from Israel. This is accurate? How is the fact that he is from Germany qualify him to post that?
But don't let that stop you from histrionic stereotyping of someone you don't even know.
I won't, especially when responding to someone who is doing the same. The only thing I know about him is what they posted. So, I will base my views on the poster based on the only source of information I have: what they provided me.
but whenever I hear about software from Israel, it's either espionage or war related
Guess he's never heard of ICQ?
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who cares?
This is hardly a big deal. It's merely an imaginary milestone that we think is important, but is really completely relevant. Is this any kind of technical feat? No. Is this even useful? Not for the majority of people.
And besides, as a number of people have pointed out already, the title of "first 1 GB e-mail service provider" is taken.
Not have big problems against the origin of the company, but maybe things could be slower for US residents or countries that have to connect thru US to reach it, or if it have some kind of success, if their (and maybe their country) bandwidth could handle the load that handles google already.
Perhaps he meant that as a German, he was well qualified to make anti-semetic statements.
Except this isn't really a battle. The Iraqi web-portal isn't giving people an @google.com or @gmail.com account. Much of the reason people sign up for an e-mail service is the domain name. It really doesn't matter how great the offering is, not too many people are going to get an @goat[...].cx e-mail account.
When Google announced its GMail on April 1st I took it seriously and decided to improve my e-mail service offering. It's now accessible over the web, SSL secured, fully text searchable and free. Before it was POP3 only, not secured and not free. I'm going to look into adding IMAP access as well. 15,000KB attachment limit and no storage limits as long as you don't try to use it as a remote harddrive.
You also don't need an existing e-mail account to sign up. Which is nice if you need to sign up for a service and really don't care to give them any real information.
Also, when you delete a message, it's gone.
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The only real news here is that you don't see more companies offering reasonable disk space for their hosting and email in the day of the $79 200GB hard drive.
Now, listen. Google's email service is not about the one-gigabyte limit.
Ok, so it's a huge number, and so everybody seems to have stared themselves blind at it, and missed the print underneath.
Google's email service is about having your email searchable. About retrieving old email by searching for a part of it. About eliminating the need for folders, dates, keywords to remember your mail. About a all-in-one-bucket, always-available mail store, that's accessed by searching rather than sorting and browsing.
Forget about the one-gigabyte limit. That's just tweaking parameters that others already have. It's nothing really innovative.
What's really new is their entire approach.
Their service is real and works fine. I have an account: greengeek AT spymac DOT com. However, the problem with their service is due to the fact that they were once a very small mac-users forum/service. When Google made their announcement, spymac gained notoriety for having a 1 gig email service up and running already. Their subscriber base jumped from They got /.ed and farked, as well as having articles in several mac sites and I think zdnet or cnet too. Also, most of the services of the site are still very new, some are still in "beta" and are lacking features. They are deserving of pity for the raping of their bandwidth and servers, but they probably should have expected it too.
30mb attachments? 1GB storage?
NO NO NO NO!!! Email was not designed for this.
furthermore, many email clients are not equipped to deal with attachments to the tune of 30mb. Most notable examples are Outhouse/Outhouse Express. Their attachment limit is somewhere near 1.7mb (for a 36.6Kbps dialup connection) and around 5.4mb for most broadband (most mailservers capped at 128Kbps).
There is a hardcoded timeout interval in there that causes retrieval and sending of a message of that size to fail if it doesn't see EOF go by in a certain amount of time.
do() || do_not();
And that's if you fill the space - while some people can do that overnight (:-), it'll take a while before their average user receives enough email to get close to that much, and the cost of disk capacity is still on a deep dive, so by the time the average user fills their 1GB, it'll cost $1 or $0.50 instead of $2.
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