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World's First 1GB Web Mail May Not Be From Google
xPertCodert writes "According to
this article, the world's first 1GB web mail is not going to be Google, but from the largest Israeli web portal. With 30Mb per attachment, it seems to be quite useful as well. Looks like an idea of extra-large e-mail storage is becoming really hot these days."
First 1GB email service? First of all, what is Spymac, chopped liver? They already have a free email service with 1GB of storage.
I'm going to issue a press release... I will be the first person to send data over phone lines. Maybe it will be hardware you install in your computer! Buy my stock!
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attachments that end in .rar or .r[0-9][0-9] :) I swear, I was only "checking my email".
...is hearing about these things before they're actually available. Note to Google and Walla!: FINISH THE DAMN BETA ALREADY!!!!!!!
This definitely seems like an attempt to steal Google's thunder, but you have to ask if an Israel-local portal company really has the global reach that Google has to be able to offer high-performance ad-supported e-mail to everybody.
I'm not quite sure that they're going to have enough non-local ads in order to serve the world in the way that Google now seems pretty confident in its global geotargeting systems.
Sometimes, i check my mail via pop3 on a dial-up connection. If I start getting 30 MB attatchments, I'll be in trouble.
What happened to e-mail ettiquete??
I really needed that for all that spam...
(is that kosher food ?)
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Spymac already offers 1Gig Email for free. Gmail's conversations sound like the most useful feature of their service. beta review
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In other news, world's first 1gbyte spam messages began circulating late yesterday afternoon.
Why a 30MB attachment limit? They could just say 50TB attachment limit and nothing would really be changed since most mail servers have a 5MB attachment limit, at most. Very few of them have a bigger limit.
I'm using an email service hosted in Israel. Might as well paint a big red target on myself.
But..
a) Unknown and unheard of company
b) Physically quite a ways from most wired countries, as opposed to widespread google (Akamai?) servers
c) Israeli only so far, vs. however many localizations (let alone simple translations) google/gmail has/will have.
d) None of the advanced searching/sorting features that Gmail has been promising and actually do sound fairly nice.
Stuff.
1 GB is a lot of information, and it has to cost a decent chunk of money to allocate that much storage for every user, and to pay for bandwidth for 30MB attachments, and for the rack space and electricity. How are web portals like google making back the cost of 1GB email?
Everyone with a Gmail account, including myself, knows that email storage space is not the only part of an effective email system. The Gmail interface is so simplified, efficient, and intuitive, that there will probably not be anything coming out that can compete with it. (ask people who both have Gmail and Spymac and see what they think)
Not only that, but the Israeli service requires money whereas Gmail is free. I am confident that Gmail will be the only truly successful free gigabyte email service.
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These services offering large attachment sizes, how useful can they really be when the majority of users cant recieve the files due to limits set on their mail server?
Sending huge attachments is nice and everything, but it's only going to work if your friend has a gmail/spymac acount (or thier own mail server) too..
I would like to announce that I am now the very first Slashdot user to point out that Spymac.com offers a 1GB email service. That's right, you heard it here first. (and, uhh, don't scroll up.)
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Walla! As of ten seconds ago, lack an english version of their site. That could make registering a bit problematic for some. Too bad xPertCodert didn't have a funny mailto: in their submission pointing to @walla.com :p
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If you did then you would understand why they are a non factor. (HINT: if you can't read hebrew, you probley won't find much use from their portal.)
Well.. maybe. Or Maybe not. But Definitely not sort of.
I signed up for an account, but now all my messages are showing up written right to left!
I just went to Spymac.com and there is nothing there but a dead server.
It's hard to believe that's how Micronians are made. Why don't we see it right now by having you both kiss one another?
Why a 30MB attachment limit? They could just say 50TB attachment limit and nothing would really be changed since most mail servers have a 5MB attachment limit, at most. Very few of them have a bigger limit.
So... if I wanted to make an attachment and my mail server didn't allow anything over 5MB (and under 30MB), I'd be screwed, right?
Wait! There's a free webbased email service that offers 1GB of space and has a 30MB attachment limit!!
Welcome to economics 101... encourage everyone to switch to your product...
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3 years ago I had over 1200 megs of emails, spam, and attachments through my email provider sitting on their server. They never cared, they told me that as long as they have the free space, and that I dont go over 2000 megs, I would be fine. This wasnt a small provider too, it was a company owned by dsl.com.
Is the big difference here the fact that its offered as a 1000 megs of space? Im sure many providers dont monitor disk usage for email if you go through small isp's, Ive never had a problem with them.
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I'm German, so I feel qualified to answer this comment. Given the choice between an Israeli webmailer and Google, I'd choose Google. Given the choice between my measly 25MB account and Google, I'd stick with downloading my mails to a machine I control.
The USA have laughable privacy provisions, but whenever I hear about software from Israel, it's either espionage or war related. Considering that, I don't think I need to hear about their privacy laws before I can make the decision.
(No offense, they're living in a warzone, that's bound to readjust priorities.)
I have about 7 email accounts. 3 are personal. One .edu, one hotmail and 1 yahoo.The problem is, I use yahoo and hotmail because I can;t get to my mail once netscape pulls it down off the server. On top of that I'm behind a firewall. So anything I need to act on during a work day ends up at a web account.
Sure I could use IMAP, but I get about 200 spam a day, and a 30 meg limit. It's not practical. I need globally accesible email respitory. That's what it is about - access anywhere to your email, in a manner that won't fill up your account. My mozilla mail file is several hundred megs, dating back years. I save it all, JIC. And it helps. Even one old email can make thouse 100s of megs worth it.
If we had a way to store the data on our PCs, then retrive it anywhere, in a consisant manner (meaning Mozilla would place nice with it - and it would play nice with Mozilla (like a shared sent folder)) then I think we'd be 99% happy and not need 1gig of email hosting. It's cheapest on my drive. It's a fixed cost, and I've already paid ot off. 1gig is cheap. ($0.50-$1) (Though it may not be safest, I never back that bitch up)
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Basing this comment on the fact that I have never heard of this company, I wouldn't trust my email to a random company in the middle east to hold any valuable emails. I only see myself using GMail in the future for those newsletter subscriptions, forum email validations, and stuff I want to send home to read later.
to those to dumb to work a CD-RW. I mean that. I talk to people all the time whose computers are hosed, but they can't format and reinstall because they couldn't figure out how to write their god damned crap to a CD. With this, let'em send an email (they've already figured out email usually) and download the stuff later. Sure, it's a ridiculously dumb, slow way to back up their data. But hey, if they weren't too dumb to figure out thier CD-RW I wouldn't be posting this comment.
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Umm. Palestinians are semetic people as well.
Jesus was a compassionate social conservative who called individuals to sin no more.
Well, the nazis will hate this one for sure.
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I think this is the fastest invocation of Godwin's Law on
Who said Freedom was Fair?
The observations in his post are both accurate and appropriate.
This is accurate and appropriate:
I'm German, so I feel qualified to answer this comment. Given the choice between an Israeli webmailer and Google, I'd choose Google.
Without taking into account features, performance, etc. etc. he picks Google based on the fact that the other one is from Israel. This is accurate? How is the fact that he is from Germany qualify him to post that?
But don't let that stop you from histrionic stereotyping of someone you don't even know.
I won't, especially when responding to someone who is doing the same. The only thing I know about him is what they posted. So, I will base my views on the poster based on the only source of information I have: what they provided me.
but whenever I hear about software from Israel, it's either espionage or war related
Guess he's never heard of ICQ?
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who cares?
This is hardly a big deal. It's merely an imaginary milestone that we think is important, but is really completely relevant. Is this any kind of technical feat? No. Is this even useful? Not for the majority of people.
And besides, as a number of people have pointed out already, the title of "first 1 GB e-mail service provider" is taken.
Not have big problems against the origin of the company, but maybe things could be slower for US residents or countries that have to connect thru US to reach it, or if it have some kind of success, if their (and maybe their country) bandwidth could handle the load that handles google already.
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Not all types of SPAM are made out of pork. See:
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Perhaps he meant that as a German, he was well qualified to make anti-semetic statements.
As a guy who had originally submitted the story, I must say, that I have never heard of SpyMac service before... I, also, think that in a next couple of month we'll see an explosion in web-based large data storage offerings from both global and local portals and providers. This will signify a huge change in their business models and offerings and we'll see how people will move not only e-mails but other useful information as well, for example - true world-wide collaboration tools, calendars, phone directories, photo repositories, document storage etc. This is are real threat to Micro$oft as well, since you won't need beefed up Very Very Very Long Horn to do 99% of your daily stuff. As for all those "obscure mid-east country" posts, I have to say that Israel is one of the most advanced country in the world in everything technology related. It has one of the highest broadband internet penetration rates as well so 30 MB attachments make a lot of sense. It is, also, worth noting that any ./ user at any given time is using at least one or two technologies developed in Israel whether it's CPU, instant-messaging service or just a simple router
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Except this isn't really a battle. The Iraqi web-portal isn't giving people an @google.com or @gmail.com account. Much of the reason people sign up for an e-mail service is the domain name. It really doesn't matter how great the offering is, not too many people are going to get an @goat[...].cx e-mail account.
When Google announced its GMail on April 1st I took it seriously and decided to improve my e-mail service offering. It's now accessible over the web, SSL secured, fully text searchable and free. Before it was POP3 only, not secured and not free. I'm going to look into adding IMAP access as well. 15,000KB attachment limit and no storage limits as long as you don't try to use it as a remote harddrive.
You also don't need an existing e-mail account to sign up. Which is nice if you need to sign up for a service and really don't care to give them any real information.
Also, when you delete a message, it's gone.
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The only real news here is that you don't see more companies offering reasonable disk space for their hosting and email in the day of the $79 200GB hard drive.
Now, listen. Google's email service is not about the one-gigabyte limit.
Ok, so it's a huge number, and so everybody seems to have stared themselves blind at it, and missed the print underneath.
Google's email service is about having your email searchable. About retrieving old email by searching for a part of it. About eliminating the need for folders, dates, keywords to remember your mail. About a all-in-one-bucket, always-available mail store, that's accessed by searching rather than sorting and browsing.
Forget about the one-gigabyte limit. That's just tweaking parameters that others already have. It's nothing really innovative.
What's really new is their entire approach.
Hotmail has McAfee, Indie-Mail has McAfee. GMail will no doubt have something similar. However when MyDoom came out my e-mail server was deleting those virus e-mails before the virus scanner was. If you look in the filter list on the Indie-Mail web-site one of the entries is a long string of letters and numbers. That's the signiture I found and used to kill off MyDoom before the VirusScan was updated and took care of it, itself.
The problem with spam protection is that you can't be overly agressive when you're dealing with other people's e-mail. That's why I only use URL filtering. It's very effective and inflicts no collateral damage. The downside is that it has to be manually maintained. But I have enough of the process automated that it's not that big of a deal. It's about 15 minutes of my time every few days to update the filter.
GMail will no doubt be utilizing it's search technology to analyze e-mails reported as spam to make it's system more effective and more automated.
Ben
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Spymac hasn't been making a stink about it being the first to offer this service because they're a sham. I see a lot of posts here about not being able to establish an account going back weeks (I remember your post when the gmail article was here).
Are you using it? If so what's your address? I don't buy that they're actually doing anything but building a db of advertising data.
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THAT may give a completely new meaning to spam!
There you are, staring at me again.
Is it going to be possible to use these free 1GB email accounts (from Google and others) for storage and distribution of pirated materials?
Could this become the next P2P?
30mb attachments? 1GB storage?
NO NO NO NO!!! Email was not designed for this.
furthermore, many email clients are not equipped to deal with attachments to the tune of 30mb. Most notable examples are Outhouse/Outhouse Express. Their attachment limit is somewhere near 1.7mb (for a 36.6Kbps dialup connection) and around 5.4mb for most broadband (most mailservers capped at 128Kbps).
There is a hardcoded timeout interval in there that causes retrieval and sending of a message of that size to fail if it doesn't see EOF go by in a certain amount of time.
do() || do_not();
And that's if you fill the space - while some people can do that overnight (:-), it'll take a while before their average user receives enough email to get close to that much, and the cost of disk capacity is still on a deep dive, so by the time the average user fills their 1GB, it'll cost $1 or $0.50 instead of $2.
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Search feature sounds pretty much like what M2 client has:
Search your M2 e-mails for almost anything. A search "sticks" and becomes an access point, so that you can easily refer to it in the future.
I realize that M2 is not free and not web-based, but still it makes Gmail's searching much less of a novelty than someone
The point is that GMail is unique due to the combination of features it has to offer, which among other things include kick-ass UI, search and storage space.
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Nah. They're liars. Anyone who would say that either side is "the true aggressor" gave up reality for rhetoric a long time ago.
Whether they're lying because they think it's justified for their cause, or just because they're trolling is a separate matter.
There are no trails. There are no trees out here.
What the German said was clearly NOT anti-semetic.
And what McAddress said was clearly not funny.
Naturally McAddress was modded +5 Funny. Moderation here is completely worthless.
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...it's the breathtaking amount of bandwidth and huge number of servers vs what appears to be one overloaded machine at the end of a glowing piece of barbed wire.
It certainly defecates on hotmail from a substantial altitude.
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