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Berman Confirms Star Trek Prequel Film Project

Steve Krutzler writes "TrekWeb can break the news STAR TREK producer Rick Berman has confirmed that work on a new STAR TREK feature film project has begun. Speaking in the new Dreamwatch magazine, Berman describes it cryptically as a "prequel" and says he's working with two other producers on the project."

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  1. To TNG or not to TNG? by andyrut · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'd be very interested to know if this is going to be a prequel to The Next Generation or to the original Star Trek series. Considering the last number of films were based on TNG, I would personally find it odd to go back to the original series at this point.

    Still, the article only refers to STAR TREK, which would indicate that perhaps Kirk and not Picard might be our captain in this one. At least it would be a welcome change from Priceline.com adverts and Miss Congeniality 2 for William Shatner.

    1. Re:To TNG or not to TNG? by Strange+Ranger · · Score: 5, Insightful

      > but Enterprise seems pretty early in the Trek timeline

      But this is Star Trek. Discussing any "timeline" is like speculating a dice roll.

      Anybody who cares enough about continuity probably gave up on the Star Trek universe awhile back. Worf magically reappearing in his old job on the Enterprise after being promoted to chief of security for an entire space station (DS9) was the last straw for me. They could've at least come up with something, welcome him back for cross training or something, but no, there he was, like he never left.

      Berman is to Star Trek as Eisner is to Disney. And Gene and Walt are wretching in their graves.

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    2. Re:To TNG or not to TNG? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Maybe it's set Pre-First Contact, in the far future of 2006. Scientists establish contact with a planet on the opposite side of the galaxy. The original borg think this is the perfect chance to assimilate the first known alien species. They succeed in transmitting their software before the communication link is destroyed. At the end of the movie the heroes can have a conversation like this.

      Captain: "Number one, you don't suppose we should write all this down, do you?"

      First mate: "Why would we want to do that?"

      Captain: "Well, what if some time in the future people might want to know these borg things still exist."

      First mate: "Who would want to know that?"

      Captain: "Well. Maybe if our first space exploration vessel runs into two of them, they might want to know what they're dealing with. Or if the fleet flagship was flung across the galaxy by an omnipotent being and brought face to face with these things. Or if the captain of that ship is perfectly fine for years, even helping out the borg a few times, and then for no apparent reason develops a Moby Dick-like obsession with them. Or perhaps another space ship could be flung across the galaxy by another near-omnipotent being and the captain of that ship could end up in a contest with the borg queen to determine who has the bigger ego."

      First mate: "You're drunk, aren't you?"

      Captain: "Like a skunk."

      First mate: "Besides, wouldn't that first exploration vessel record their contact with the borg? Then that fleet flagship would know what they were facing. That would be the smart thing to do."

      Captain: "Somebody else's problem. I like it. Have a drink."

      Or maybe not. At least that would finally explain why the borg had an unhealthy obsession with Earth.

    3. Re:To TNG or not to TNG? by kannibal_klown · · Score: 5, Funny

      I doubt it'll be TNG, considering how the last two went, and they killed off one of the more beloved characters from that series.

      Haven't you learned anything from watching Star Trek.

      Wrath of Kahn: While fighting in / near a nebula, Spock makes the ultimate sacrifice, bathing himself in radiation from the ship's reactor, ultimately dying to save the crew. However, not before "backing up" his personality in Bones' thick skull.

      Nemesis: While fighting in / near a nebula, Data makes the ultimate sacrifice, being destroyed in a radiation blast eminating from the enemy warship's reactor, ultimately dying to save the crew. However, not before he uploaded his entire neural pathways, memories, and experiences into the dummy-data.

      Star Trek is an admin's wet dream. Backing up can even bring back the dead :)

    4. Re:To TNG or not to TNG? by Shakrai · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Only Star Trek's continuity was always wretched. Roddenberry is no better than Berman, he couldn't be bothered to come up with a decent backstory either, so the continuity in TOS was even worse than in TNG.

      TOS get's a free pass because it was in the 60s. What more do you want? You don't watch TOS for the continuity (there was none until the movies) -- you watch TOS for the window on the world that was the 1960s -- the Hippies, the racial issues and the storylines. Individual TOS episodes are still compelling to this day.

      TNG had excellent continuity with storyline. The characters progressed and grew the show had excellent storylines and like TOS it was another issues based show (terrorism, drugs, war, religion, friendship, homosexuality, veterans rights, human rights, freedom/self-determination and many others). TNG had the ability to take an issue and boil it down to a compelling storyline that fit into a one-hour timeslot. And somehow they managed to do it while keeping the show more or less G-rated (the only really bad scene I can think of is the First-Season episode with the body-snatching aliens) and keeping the T&A (compared to Voyager and Enterprise) to an absolute minimum (and towards the end they finally got Troi out of her bunny-suit and into a real uniform).

      Now if you want to talk about technical continuity then TNG (all the Star Trek's for that matter) was horrible -- panels that would appear in turbolifts if the episode required it, phasers that could be remotely deactivated (unless being used by terrorists when we need plot drama), etc etc, but who cares about that? As a whole TNG was one of the best TV shows there ever was. Probably Seasons 3, 4 and 5 were the best -- when Gene was still actively involved in running things. Towards the end (Season 7) it started to show Voyager-like traits (technobabble replacing storyline) which in hindsight makes me glad they ended it the way they did -- on a highnote. "All Good Things" was probably the best series-finale for any show I've ever watched. As far as the movies go I liked Generations and I try to pretend that the others don't exist.

      DS9 shared many of the same qualities that made TNG so great -- compelling storylines and characters that evolved. I was initially somehow leery of the war arc but I think it worked in the context of DS9 (whereas it probably wouldn't have in TNG). The last two seasons of DS9 was basically TNG from "Yesterday's Enterprise" over the course of an entire season -- very dark yet very compelling story material. DS9 also suffered from a lack of technical continuity but again, who the hell cares? The point of Star Trek is to tell a story.

      Don't get me started on Voyager. The first two seasons I had high hopes and it went down the toilet after that. It became one massive technobabble episode after another (was there anything that T&A of Borg's nanoprobes couldn't do? -- "And look -- it'll still slice this tomato!") with far too much violence for the Trek universe (at least the violence in TNG and DS9 served a purpose) and no storyline continuity whatsoever. Welsey Crusher's character (most people's favorite character to hate) evolved more over the years then Harry Kim did.

      And don't even get me started on Enterprise. A complete rape of every established (canon and non-canon) piece of Star Trek history. A wussified Captain (at least Picard could win fights when he was forced to get into them -- Kirk and Sisko would pick them and always win -- Archer picks them and almost always gets his ass kicked), completely out-of-character Vulcans (whatever happened to IDIC?), hostile aliens that we never knew existed, too much T&A for the tastes of anyone not in the 15-20 male demographic (if your going to have sexuality on a TV show could you at least be mature about it? Decontamination scenes? Gimme a friggen break), etc etc etc.

      TNG was probably the best overall television show ever imho. TOS had excellent individual episodes (and kick ass movies) and stands the test of time. DS9 was a compelling series too. The rest of them I try hard to forget about ever watching.

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  2. Prequel? Oh boy... by jrj102 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    While the typos and spelling errors in the article were entertaining ("STAR TRKE" and "the future of their first series remains in limo") I'm not sure what to make of this. When they talk "prequel" are they talking about Pre-Enterprise? It seems like any earlier and there wouldn't be much opportunity to explore other species, etc. Can a Star Trek movie without existing characters/actors be successful? I mean Nemesis, which was based on the much-loved TNG crew, made about $53 at the box office. (OK, that might be a slightly low estimate.)

    I think a Starfleet Academy movie (mentioned in the article) could be compelling, but I'm losing interest in the whole franchise. I'd like to see another season of Enterprise despite the fact that it's a fairly weak show (in my opinion) but I think that Gene Roddenberry's vision is running out of gas without his input. I have mixed feelings: on one hand, Trek has gotten pretty lame, and it is probably time for them to stop producing it for a while, but on the other hand I'd miss even bad Trek... Is bad Trek better than no Trek at all? Am I even making any sense? :)

    Drooling fanboys will be happy to read this line from the article, though:

    "...insiders suggest Berman and/or Braga might take a reduced role in a fourth season of ENTERPRISE, though this is entirely speculation."

    --- JRJ

    1. Re:Prequel? Oh boy... by cosmo7 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Second of all, I'd like to see a movie/series about the beginings of the borg. That would be a *GREAT*.

      OK, here's my pitch:

      Captain Data and Seven Out Of Ten are on their way to some long-deserved shore leave on an apparently paradise-like planet. A special anomaly suddenly appears and they travel into an alternative dimension - an evil one - where everyone has beards. Just as they are about to solve everything by using cronaton particles and a polaron beam, they get stuck on the holodeck in wild west outfits. They are captured by the evil sheriff - Q - who threatens them with a long telling off. It turns out that Q is possessed by the ghost of a long-dead (but English-speaking) civilisation. Just as time is about to run out - and they will be viciously shouted at - the Borg (ie: the good guys in this dimension) turn up and rescue them. Data and Seven return home by making a communicator out of sulphur, charcoal and potassium nitrate. The final words are "beam me up, spocky".

      I have some drawings of Seven in a sexy wild west outfit if you think they would help.

  3. In other news by Sean80 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    CNN.com reports that sources close to Berman cryptically referred to the movie as "more of the same old crap from the same old people."

    Why, oh why, do they continue to insist on beating this dead horse into the dust? I'm as big a Star Trek fan as anybody, but it's gone way too far away from its roots, and quite frankly the last couple of movies have sucked so hard that I can't stand thinking about what they're going to bring out next.

    Long live TNG on DVD.

  4. NCC-1701C by DamienNightbane · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'd hope that it's a prequel to TNG. Rachel Garret needs her own series and movies.

  5. What did Spock find in the toilet? by SpermanHerman · · Score: 5, Funny

    Captains Log ...

    ~SpermanHerman

  6. Article Text by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Rick Berman: "Prequel" Film in the Works, Plus Developing New Series With Braga

    By Steve Krutzler / 12:42, 22 April 2004 / General Star Trek

    After over a year of silence on the future of the STAR TREK feature film franchise, producer Rick Berman has finally dropped the first hints of a new theatrical project for the franchise. The news comes in the new issue of Dreamwatch magazine, just coming out in the UK.

    Speaking in issue #117, Berman confirms for the first time that he is now developing a STAR TREK feature film project: "I am involved in the very early stages of what could be the next STAR TRKE movie," reveals Berman, in an excerpt provided by Dreamwatch. "It's something I will be producing with two other producers."

    Unwilling to offer many details he cryptically describes it as "a prequel" without any further elaboration. The names of his producing cohorts will have to remain unknown for now, as well. This follows a report earlier this week from Dark Horizons that Paramount may be working on a project the site described as "Starfleet Academy." Coincidentially, former TREK producer Harve Bennett (STAR TREKs II-VI) revealed recently that several years ago he had pitched a Starfleet Academy-based STAR TREK movie concept.

    On the television front, while the future of their first series remains in limo, Berman confirms that he is developing a non-STAR TREK sci-fi series with partner Brannon Braga. Both Berman and Braga have development deals with Paramount. If a new series begins development in earnest, TrekWeb insiders suggest Berman and/or Braga might take a reduced role in an adults-only supermarionation version of ENTERPRISE, though this is entirely speculation.

    For the full interview and much more, check out issue #117 of Dreamwatch magazine in the United Kingdom.

  7. Re:Script Excerpts by jrj102 · · Score: 5, Funny

    You know, I've always had a fantasy that someday, people will yell my name as Shatner yelled "Khhaaaaannnnnnn!!!!" however, I've yet to piss someone off enough to inspire such beautiful overacting. :)

  8. In related news... by IshanCaspian · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...they announced plans to dig up Gene Roddenberry's corpse and kick it around in the street. Sources close to the production crew said they were in the market for dead horses and clubs.

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    1. Re:In related news... by nacturation · · Score: 5, Funny

      I think that's part of the plot. Gene Roddenberry's corpse is spinning so fast in his grave that it's causing frame dragging. The distortions in space-time open up a wormhole to the future. The Enterprise crew goes to investigate this effect and hilarity ensues.

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  9. I've seen the rushes and they're cool! by heironymouscoward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The entire crew of the Enterprise is still at school and Spock Jr is being bullied by ignorant full-blooded humans when Jamie Kirk leaps to the rescue and saves Spock Jr who says "you humans are so emotional. on my planet i would have left myself to be beaten to a bloody pulp". Jamie Kirk then kicks Spock jr in the groin, rips off his shirt and makes out with one of the local girls.

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  10. Why do you torture us so? by Bronz · · Score: 5, Funny

    Don't you know the tastes of the many outweigh the tastes of the few, or the none?

  11. Star Fleet Command? by miket01 · · Score: 5, Informative
    Dark Horizons recently posted this tidbit in regards to current development at Paramount (emphasis mine):

    Seeking Writers: "Pro Nanny, "Au Pair", "Paranoia", "Star Fleet Command", "Stranger in a Strangeland", "Homeland Security", Peter Weir's "War Magician", Tony Scott's "Warriors" and an untitled Johnny Knoxville project

  12. sorry to say this, but... by shams42 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    IMO the Star Trek universe is out of gas. There's nothing to see here. Move on.

    It's sad, because I've always loved Star Trek. But I realized the truth when I saw the latest installment in the theater, which in my opinion was nothing but a bad rehash of The Wrath of Khan.

    But then, I guess this is a sign of the times. Lately it's seemed to me that we as a culture are running low on creativity. I don't ever remember a time when so many sequels and so few original films were released. And of course, people flock like lemmings to see the latest rehash of whatever. I haven't heard an original musical group in what seems like years. I'm sure there are indie groups that I've never heard of that are doing great stuff, but the mainstream... I guess the latest thing is for bands like The Darkness to resurrect the same lame ass hair metal that Nirvana wiped off the face of the earth. And most of the the rock music that I've heard in the last couple of years has been variations on the Korn theme... detuned guitars and shameless lyrics about childhood trauma. Hey asshole, you're rich -- go get some therapy and get the hell over it!

    Anyway, I know I've drifted a bit off topic, but I see this as another attempt to squeeze the every last penny out of what used to be a great franchise by driving it even deeper into the ground. All to avoid, *gasp*, coming up with something ORIGINAL! But no, that would be too risky. Let's just serve up another plate of leftovers.

  13. Re:In other news by AragornSonOfArathorn · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why, oh why, do they continue to insist on beating this dead horse into the dust?

    Because each time they whack the horse's corpse, it coughs up another wad of hundred-dollar bills.

    Long live TNG on DVD.

    I agree. I need to invest. TNG was the best series by far.

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  14. Re:How about Star Trek: Borg War by Mike+Markley · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why bother? Berman and Braga already neutered the Borg anyway. If the last half of Voyager is any indication, all they need to do is bring Admiral (*gag*) Janeway out to modulate the field density and penetrate the shields, or something.

    No, the Borg are just as ruined as most of the rest of the franchise at this point, and cramming all the casts into one movie screams of a pitiful attempt at fan service: "We can't deliver a decent movie, so we're just gonna throw characters at you; one of these must be your favorite!"

    As many others have said, Trek needs a long break. With any luck, it'll be able to lie dormant until Rick Berman dies a horrible death.

  15. Re:In other news by Sean80 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I can't believe I'm getting troll votes for this.

    The wonderful thing about science fiction is that, imho, it isn't really about science at all. Instead, it gives writers an opportunity to change small (or large) details about the world around humans, and see how they react. So, SF is all about humans at the end of the day. For a while, Star Trek understood that. Almost all of the first series understood that, with wise old Gene at the helm. TNG understood that as well, which is why "The Inner Light" is one. of. the. best. damn. episodes. of. any. series. ever.

    Berman and his band of merry idiots don't understand this simple fact. I remember reading an article in which he said something like: "Star Trek fans loves aliens and time travel."

    Star Trek 2, 4 and 6 understood that it's all about the people. First Contact was good because it was so damn cool, and nobody can dislike anything with the Borg in it.

    So yeah, if I have simply lost interest in Star Trek because Berman wants to fill every movie with "aliens" and "time travel" then troll me.

  16. Prequel quite possible... by X86Daddy · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... just skip the bloody humans! I'd like to see the early days of Vulcan, or even better, the origin of the Borg...

    ...it started with this news commenting service that people spent a lot of time communicating on, but eventually, the only sentiments issued from it were a uniform set of thoughts. ;-)

  17. Enterprise (as a series) and the recent movies. by LithiumX · · Score: 5, Interesting

    All the best ST movies have (with one exception) been their darkest - and even Voyage Home had a pretty bleak undertone (goodbye Earth). On the other hand, their "cute" movies have also been their worst - and Nemesis proves they shouldn't try for a core bad guy until they can give us a good one (I was not impressed with Nemesis, but at least it helped drive away the bad taste of Insurrection's diarrhetic implosion).

    As for Enterprise, regardless of it's ratings I think it's the best effort they've made since TNG's final season. It has the best characters (all have distinct flaws that aren't cute, which makes their finer aspects shine a little more). It has a dark and slightly twisted sense of humor I like. They do not always make the moral choice in the end, instead of always figuring out what's right by the end of the show. Their doctor is the first alien ST crewmember who seems to fit in as a castmember instead of the token alien.

    And... it brings back some of the Blood, Booze, and Babes element that made the original last so long. When they fight, they fight like they mean it. Bodies fly out of gaping holes in the ship, there are redshirts all over the place, and sometimes they have to be cold and brutal just to survive, not to make a highhanded point.

    I want to see a Star Trek movie that makes your brain twist... something approaching hard sci-fi, but not enough to drive people away. I want Arthur C Clarke to make me a Star Trek. Or, if they can ever get him to talk to them again, Harlan Ellison (who wrote their best episode, period). Something dark and bleak, where instead of being preachy, they tear their entire world apart and let them climb out of the wreckage.

    I don't want a happy Star Trek movie. I don't want to hear Picard soliliquizing on philosophical matters like it was a pleasant tea party, or Riker worrying about his love life, or La Forge being bored with his job. I want to see all hell break loose, and characters who ACT like they're not having fun. And if the TNG guys get one more go, kill some of them off in acts of violence, not dramatic self-sacrifice. I want Shakespearean Tragedy, not As The Federation Turns.

    Or maybe... just maybe... I'll be impressed if I see a title like "Star Trek: Holy War" or "Star Trek: Apocalypse"... not "Star Trek: Earl Grey, Hot".

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  18. Maybe A Potpouri? by Etriaph · · Score: 5, Funny
    Ok, so here's how it happens.

    The Vorlons return from beyond the rim and drag Babylon 5 into a seperate reality. When the 1701-E stumbles upon it, they request aid from Admiral Janeway who sends Voyageur (with her on board) and she also commands the crew of DS9 to arrive with the Defiant in case we need Worf to make rude noises. O'Brien happens to be on the 1701-E, as Picard missed his old transporter-chief and decided to liberate him from Starfleet Academy.

    So, we have all these crews here, but we're missing two. Sisko, while speaking with the wormhole aliens, asks them to drag the NX-01 and the NCC-1701 from the past to the planet where Babylon 5 is orbiting. All hell breaks loose. Sisko materializes on the bridge of the Defiant and begins to command the fleet (while Picard quietly plots his death, feeling upstaged). Babylon 5 launches it's fighers, and the harrowing corpse of Sheridan begins to emanate a strange energy signature. All of a sudden, three Spacing Guild ships appear above the station, and the fighters of Muad'dib begin to use their illegaly-taught Bene Gesserit teachings to subdue Starfleet. Babylon 5 lays waste to all Starfleet ships with the White Star, and subsequently becomes entranced themselves by the wily ways of the Fedaykin.

    Afterwards, another Guild Highliner arrives carrying a delegation of the Bene Gesserit who tames the Vorlons with lessons they've learned from The Scattering.

    The movie ends with Captain Kirk in an escape pod singing "Row Row Row your Boat"

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