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OO.org Selects Its Own Sea Bird

Elektroschock writes "A new mascot of the OO.org project was announced today: A crazy sea gull. I wonder whether it will help to convince office workers of Open Office. "Andrea [Maggioni]'s contribution is not only beautiful and effective but also illustrates the potential of young people to contribute importantly to real projects under the banner of Free and Open Source Software." Andrea, "whose cheerful drawing, of a fun-looking seagull holding a fish, plays on the "OOo" shorthand of OpenOffice.org"... ehemm, it's a crazy sea gull."

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  1. Pun on by ciroknight · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Migration? maybe?

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    1. Re:Pun on by BarakMich · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well.. good thing it's not an african swallow...

    2. Re:Pun on by g0_p · · Score: 5, Informative

      I think its based on the birds (gulls?) that are a part of the OOo mascot. As someone else already pointed out this is the new mascot of the OOoEdu project and not the OOo project.

  2. See the Other Submissions by Mr.+Darl+McBride · · Score: 5, Informative
    I'm glad people are getting a kick out of this. I really enjoyed orchestrating the competition (I do more than troll Slash, you know), and Andrea and the other candidates did a bang-up job. We couldn't be more proud.

    Voting is of course closed, but if you'd like to see the other students' submissions, our voting page is still displayed. You can click on the individual images for a larger view.

    Also, a minor point of clarification regarding Timothy and Elektroschock's write up -- this is not a mascot for OOo. This is a mascot for OooEdu, the new Schools Project of Open Office.org. Please, read the attached article to learn about what the OOoEdu aims to do, and how you can help. We're an active and devoted community, and there are things you can do to further OOo's acceptance in schools, even if you can't contribute a line of code!

    1. Re:See the Other Submissions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    2. Re:See the Other Submissions by orkysoft · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Okay, so I sinned and did RTFA. Here's a quote from the last paragraph, which is ROTFLMAO, IMHO.

      Context: case study of OOo being burned to CD in a school project.

      One of the students has suggested we try to get individuals and local organisations to sponsor individual disks and this is something we'll definitely be considering - Chris is already working on a draft letter to Bill Gates!

      It'll be a cold day in hell when Bill Gates will sponsor OOo for schools! That would go straight against his business strategy in so many ways...

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  3. Only for OOoEdu by Mr.+Sketch · · Score: 5, Informative

    I think I should point that that I believe this mascott is just for the OOoEdu project, not for the OpenOffice.org project as a whole.

  4. Around here, seagulls are called "shithawks". by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Gully says:

    "It looks like you're trying to run Microsoft Office via WINE. Would you like me to poop on it for you?"

  5. Why am I reminded of that scene... by Xpilot · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...from "Finding Nemo", where that seagull picks up our fishy hero.

    Oh and there's only one 't' in 'mascot'.

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  6. A few mistakes in the summary... by oldosadmin · · Score: 5, Informative

    1) This is just the mascot for OOOEdu, not OOo.

    2) It was a childs drawing, who won a competition.

    I think it's quite cute.

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  7. Not a good mascot for a project aimed at schools by syslog · · Score: 5, Funny
    I really hope that they limit this mascot to the EDU subproject.

    Quite frankly, the gull looks slightly... challenged. Not a good image for either open office or for a subprject aimed at schools :)

    -naeem

  8. The "OK" gesture is obscene in some countries by GringoGoiano · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In Brazil the mascot will look like a perverted psychopath with a thing for fish.

  9. Re:Please note by pvt_medic · · Score: 5, Insightful

    thats good to hear, because while it is a nice picture and all. I dont think this is the logo that will get them international respect as an alternative to microsoft office.

    However i do applaud them for involving school aged children into this project and their efforts to bring open office to schools. This will not only save schools hundreds of dollars (more like thousands) but also will having children involved with the development of such a product has countless educational value.

    I tip my hat to them

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  10. The "OK" sign the gull is making is obscene in EU by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The "OK" sign is another way of referring to the female genetalia in some countries, and is considered obscene, which could be a bit of an impediment to OO use in some countries.

    Maybe they should have researched this a bit more...

  11. Oh great by Dark+Lord+Seth · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Andrea receives a great prize of a web-hosting service for one year, 200 Mb of web space on a Linux server, with 50 IMAP/POP3 mailboxes (protected from virus and spam), unlimited aliases, one IP address, PHP/MySQL/PostGreSQL support, and the registration of an .it .com .net or .org domain name. The prize is donated by E4A, a Free Software based ISP that supports the OpenOffice.org community.

    That's a nice price, sure. But for a girl who's prolly still in high school or maybe even elementary school?

  12. What the hell is she going to do with that? by QuantumG · · Score: 5, Funny
    Andrea receives a great prize of a web-hosting service for one year, 200 Mb of web space on a Linux server, with 50 IMAP/POP3 mailboxes (protected from virus and spam), unlimited aliases, one IP address, PHP/MySQL/PostGreSQL support, and the registration of an .it .com .net or .org domain name.

    Uhhh.. she's 15. I guess we know why her sister's boyfriend talked her into contributing.

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  13. good point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is pretty much the same reason that Microsoft did away with their upraised middle finger logo.

  14. Cuter... by megabyte405 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    http://ryand.net/oss/abi/abiantgnomepencil.png
    AbiWord Word Processor


    (leave off the file name for more images of Abi the Ant)

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  15. First the seagull mascot... by PrintError · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...then the new company motto:
    Mine! Mine! Mine! Mine! Mine! Mine! Mine! Mine!

    ignore the sig

  16. In my well paid opinion by aghorne · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I am a lecturer and tutor in Graphic Design at Monash University. Perhaps I can add some comments on why this winning entry does not communicate well: - Its complex. As a rule of thumb a logo or mascot should be legible when printed out at about 10mm square and run through a fax machine. - Its not cheerful. This bird looks dazed and confused like it has been drinking all weekend. - It devalues the OO.org brand by making it look amateurish not accessible. The quicker open source projects take a leaf out of Firefox's approach to branding and identity the better. If open-source projects are going to have any kind of influence on mainstream software usage (which OpenOffice indeed has the potential to) it really needs to get serious with the way it comes across. Please do judge books by their covers and applications by their icons and mascots. No mascot is better than a bad mascot.

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    1. Re:In my well paid opinion by FattMattP · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Good point. I'd like to add that this should be applied to program names as well. I have found through personal experience that it's extremely difficult to convince people to use The Gimp due to the name. It has a negative connotation associated with it and many people find it offensive. They look at me as if I said it was called The Retard or something to that effect. There are other folks who just see it as good free software and don't care about the name. But in my experience they are definitely in the minority. I've reached the point now where I always apologize before I tell them the name.

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    2. Re:In my well paid opinion by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The what?

      Guh-new Image Manipulation program?

      Guh-what?

      Guh-new, G.N.U.

      WTF?

      Guh-new's not Unix

      What's Unix?

      An Operating system, don't worry about it, it's the Guh-new Image Manipulation Program.

      That's stupid.

      No, it's great, check out www.gimp.org

      Haha. Nice try, that's a hardcore porn site right? I don't think I want to hang around with you anymore.

      I'm serious, it's a graphic program, it's great, it's written by free software devlopers. It's licensed under the GPL.

      The GPL?

      The Guh-new public license

      You're frightening me.

      Try the GIMP, it's not very good on Windows though, you should try it on Linux.

      I think I'll stick to Photoshop. There's a new version coming out. Check out this glossy book I picked up.

      I don't have to pay for my documentation.

      Where is it?

      www.gimp.org

      Ooooh Kaaay. I've got work to do now, please leave.

  17. Re:Something wrong with the picture by incom · · Score: 5, Funny

    True. Does the fish really recongnize it's own mortality, does a fish try to squirm away out of discomfort, instinct, or actual fear of death. Thanks for bringing up the quality of metaphysical discussion here at slashdot, although valid sometimes the paradoxi of soviet russia get a little worn out.

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  18. Re:Something wrong with the picture by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 5, Funny
    That fish looks just a little too happy to be held by a seagull.

    I don't know. The first thing that I thought was that that seagull looks totally stoned. It's got bloodshot eyes, messed up hair, a zoned out expression, and its fingers look just like they're holding a joint. It's pretty easy to mentally add an enormous smoldering doobie to the image.

    The fish has a huge smile on his face and is staring directly at the seagull's virtual joint. He may be anticipating that the seagull is going to be kind enough to give him a puff or two.

    Hopefully the seagull doesn't have the munchies.

  19. We understand the qualifiers, but still... by roj3 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    >>1) This is just the mascot for OOOEdu, not OOo.
    >>2) It was a childs drawing, who won a competition.
    >>I think it's quite cute.

    The problem is, it doesn't matter if it's "just" the mascot for OOOedu -- it reflects on the entire OO.org brand. Unfortunately, it communicates "sloppy, stoned bird," rather than "whimsical kid-friendly software."

    The idea of using a kid's drawing is good, but as you see, the results leave you explaining it EVERY TIME ("see.. it was drawn by a kid.. see?). What about incorporating the feedback of kids? What about working with kids to come up with various themes? or having various schools vote on a selection of professional designs?

    Cute isn't going to win us (the open source software movement) any battles.

  20. As a professional graphic designer... by Aqua+OS+X · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As a professional graphic designer, I'd have to disagree. Moreover, I image most of my colleagues would have opinions similar to the one I am about to voice.

    That seagull somewhat works as a mascot (which it is) but not a logo.

    Logos need to be simple color pallet . Moreover, logo's need to be scalable and preferably vector based. They should be recognizable at 3/4 squared as well as 4 feet squared. These factors allow one to easily apply a logo to a building, sign, letterhead, etc. Giant complicated bitmap logos are only going to give you problems.

    Moreover, simple logos are easier and faster for a human brain to retain. (psychology and sociology are fairly important subjects for graphic designers to understand) People are more likely to gain sense of familiarity and comfortability with a simple logo.

    But... anywho... I could go on and on.
    Suffice to say, I'm not a big fan of the seagull in it's current state. Mascots can get by with silly complicated forms since they are (usually) not logos. However simplifying their characterization usually increases there ability to gain acceptance.

    The seagull is a good start, but it could be cleaned up a bit.

    just my 2cents

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  21. Target audience? by antic · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Who's the target here? If kids are making the decision to roll out OO in schools, then by all means go with the demented bird, but if you're trying to sway Principals or MS-happy IT staff, then you might want to choose something that suggests professionalism, reliability, and easy for kids to use.

    The retarded bird says unprofessional, flaky, and unattractive.

    The competition was surely a great idea to get awareness up amongst kids, but I wouldn't run around with that bird as a letterhead to managers of schools and boards representing schools.

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