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Diary Illuminates Einstein's Last Years
b00le writes "Several sources carry versions of this story about the diary of Johanna Fantova who shared much of the last years of Einstein's life (and cut his hair) and witnessed his kindness and poltical activisim. The diary does not seem to have been translated from the German yet, but the site has extracts. According to this, Fantova tried to publish the diaries herself and of course failed to find an agent."
Sorry for the ignorance, but why 'of course failed to find an agent'?
perhaps I'm being over-cynical, but I can't help wondering if this is a hoax.
Einstein calling Heisenberg "a big Nazi" is surely too funny to be true. The mistake mentioned in the article (reporting Einstein phoning his sister several years after she was dead) doesn't sound like the sort of mistake a real diarist would ever make.
thoughts, anyone?
...it was slightly cheaper than Newtons diary...
If she is the one who cut his hair, I wonder what her writings must be like. Einstein, even on portrait day, looked worse than I do on my worst bed head day. It took so long to transcribe her notes because of her shaky hand?
Isn't it "PSYCHE"?
... or simply ... Oops or... Oh Shit.
At last it makes more sense that way... though it's just hard to convey the right message in text... maybe:
GOTCHA
--- "Many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view." ~ Ben Kenobi, 'Return of the Jedi'
Very interesting... I wonder how true it is. I have my concerns with the "Big Nazi" comments. From many published reports, Einstein was a bit on the touched side on social issues, but this seems a bit questionable. Having access to the "full diary" should prove the authenticity of the whole thing. I have my doubts about it, and getting excepts only raises my suspicions.
I once saw a documentary about a Japanese professor who was obsessed to find out what had happened to the obducted brain of Einstein. Travelled all over the world, spoke in broken English but he did succeed in finding at least some parts of the brains.
Peculiar guys, those Japanese...
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the people in charge of knowing better don't.
Film executives don't know anything about film or movie goers. Music executives certainly wouldn't know music if they heard it, but they understand large boobies and good skin. While a perhaps surprising number of female models look like male heroin addicts. So literary agents don't know something worth reading when it's already largely written and walks itself into their office. I'm sure we could all turn to another NetOps ForceCenter book which Tom Clancy probably outsourced to a prison labor camp in North Korea.
I honestly read the headline as "Dairy Illuminates Einstein's Last Years". I was beginning to wonder how milk could possibly shed any light on Einstein. Holy cow.
was a UN with teeth. Violate the charter and we'll come after you. Much more effective than the current talking sessions, which no violator ever takes serious. Now *that* would improve the world.
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forget the e=mc^2 stuff
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Please see Young Einstein for some amazing revelations about our favorite frizzy professor's childhood in Australia.
Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
One of the more interesting things about society in the United States is the way in which "dangerous" ideas can be neutralized and forgotten without actual censorship. Jack London, Helen Keller, and Albert Einstein are good examples of people whose political opinions were successfully submerged in the popular consciousness by elevating the non-threatening aspects of their life and work.
An example from the right rather than the left would be Charles Lindbergh.
I remember being surprised by my discovery, in the sixties, that a) many people of my parents' generation at least recognize the tune and words of The Internationale, that virtually nobody from the sixties generation does--not even the real lefties--and that people from my parents' generation were largely unaware that people from the next generation don't know it. A song and a political emblem, into the memory hole without benefit of telescreens.
"How to Do Nothing," kids activities, back in print!
Um, the only thing this link verifies is that Einstein married his cousin. What about the rest of it, eh?
...was "I live in that solitude which is painful in youth, but delicious in the years of maturity."
It's surprising that someone so respected would need to chase a carrot like that. It sounds like that solitude extended indefinitely. Maybe extreme genius demands solitude.
Any thoughts?
Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose.
... Werner Heisenberg was quite a small man. Why would Albert call him a big nazi?
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Here is the rest of the story. I linked to only one the first time. Sorry.
What exactly does that mean?
It fills me with deep apprehension to see how people who might otherwise rail against "PC revisionism" will dismiss something like Einstein's various social causes, putting them in a basket like "he was a little 'touched'" to keep them at a safe distance. Heisenberg had worked for the German war machine trying to develop an atom bomb. Do we not think Einstein could possibly have strong feelings about that? Whether this diary's legit or not, that particular point doesn't seem over the edge to me. Over-candid, maybe -- as might happen in a diary...
It' ain't just Einstein (who was an avowed socialist by the way -- boo!). A worse and weirder thing has happened with Helen Keller. Helen Keller was a hell of a woman; Winston Churchill called her "The greatest woman of our age." We've made her a curiosity, a freak show -- because we're airbrushing out her entire adult life so that she's safer for fifth-graders to read about. Okay, so these two people were socialists, and I'm not. (I'd be more of a Keynesian, along the lines of Richard Nixon, economically.) Opinions far from our own aren't inherently nuts, and we don't have to be scared of them -- do we?
"Fundamentalism" isn't about divine morality. It's about human authority.
(and cut his hair)
She should have cut them all....
"All great things are simple & expressed in a single word: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope." --Churchill
Werner Heisenberg is the father of the Atom Bomb.
Just in an alternate universe.
Yea, the Nazi's won in that one. Churchhill tripped once as a teenager and hit his head a bit too hard on the pavement. He was finally killed by the SS when they marched through London. No, not in Parliament, on the street. He was a bum.
It's quite an alternate universe, let me tell ya.
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Comon fanboy. Whats wrong. Don't like to be proved wrong. I notice you make no comment about the co-author credit on the original russin publication of the 1905 papers.
What, I think I have backed up everything my original post said. Now log into your little linux fanboy penguin account and mod the original post up where it belongs so people can see the truth about the cousin banging freak that was einstien.
Better? I am not so sure. We could have a UN with teeth, but who will be the dentist?
Who and when to chew on is a tricky problem too.
Alas, how would the one being chewed on react? Lean towards the other side - the anti-UN?
Hey, that's my password you are typing
As she was writing the diary did she think that she was going to publish it? Or decide that later, after he died. If it was as she wrote, how much did she stretch to make _sure_ it would be interesting.
Hold your horses mate. Don't be so bitter. I read the second one and it's pretty interesting. I never claimed to know better; I just noticed that the original link had less than complete info. I don't have an account, but I would mod you up if I did.
Ok, maybe that statement doesn't surprise some of you, but it did surprise me, when I hit on this eloquent article that was printed in the first issue of Monthly Review. I was not aware of this publication, or of Einsteins political views until I stumbled on this (I don't remember how I did now...).
Anyway, this was something never mentioned at least in my primary and secondary education.
You can also add to that list George Orwell, which although it may sound counterintuitive, was a staunch Socialist to his death, fighting fascists in Spain, even though during his middle and later life his observation of Soviet Russia made him very cynical about the prospects and practicability of socialism (at least as far as I understood).
Anyway, that opened my mind a bit (mostly because the notion of Einstein we are lead to believe is one of a absent-minded nonchalant apolitical genius...if I could know so little about the core of such a major figure what else wasn't I taught?).
It's 10 PM. Do you know if you're un-American?
Heisenberg's motivations are still arguable. After the war, an amazing number of people suddenly "did not sympathize" with the Nazis, although they worked diligently and enthusiastically for them. Heisenberg may have been a "big Nazi." Wasn't Einstein personally acquainted with the man, and in a position to form a legitimate opinion based on evidence we may not have seen?
Personally, I think Heisenberg was probably sabotaging the Nazi effort, but none of the evidence is compelling. He was such a convincing collaborator that it's hard to tell.
Heisenberg's actions may have intentionally slowed down the Nazi pursuit of the atom bomb, or perhaps he was actually trying hard, and just wrong or (un)lucky. All these men were perfectly fallible.
We're responsible to everyone for what we do, and who we pretend to be and. We're responsible only to ourselves for who we are.
Fiction is a good arena for the unknowable. Kurt Vonnegut's _Mother Night_ is a lovely book about these very problems and even the movie is great.
Assembly is the reverse of disassembly.
Einstein spent last years telling bad jokes to depressed parrot: diary
On a tagential, but seemingly related note. Hao Wang's book "A Logical Journey: From Gödel to Philosophy" is a similar type of book. It's really more of a historical source, not a book. The author merely collected and recorded facts based on Godel's life. Godel and Einstein spent 20 years together at the Institute for Advanced Study. Often times they would take walks together and they seemed to be good friends. Also, Godel seemed to have had an active interest in cosmology, prehaps presceint of the rigourization of cosmological models in the post-Einstein era.
Godel lived a rather mundane life. He was no Feynman. He was quiet. While Einstein seemed to enjoy, if not ask, to be treated as a scientific god, Godel seemed to hate such exclusion. Often times, mathematicians and philosophers feared to even talk to the great Godel. Even Von Nuemann (who seemed to have little respect for Einstein [see Ulam's autobiography]), referred to Godel as the greatest philosopher since Aristotle. Facts, as found in Wang's book, such as Godel's fondness for "chicken and biscuits" or Godel spending Sunday mornings in bed reading the Bible are mundane. However, these men were mundane. They're world was completely of the mind. Often these men quirks are the only really interesting things about them. They were virtually indisguishable in public. In fact, in Martin Davis book, "The Universal Computer" Davis' wife exclaimed, upon first seeing Einstein and Godel together at Princeton, that see had seen "Einstein and his lawyer".
In the case of this woman's diaries, I'm more concerned she deified Einstein, thus tainting her view. I believe the publishers may have been right in this case. Her diaries probably read more like notes. They probably would have requried some extensive work or further research before being worthy of a book.
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Most countries seem to bear it at the moment, although if you're from the US I wouldn't expect you to notice.
I really wish the Guardian would check their facts before printing mistakes like this. (It has to be an editorial mistake by the Guardian, since someone alive at that time would have known better.)
The House Un-American Activities committee was a committee of the House of Representatives. Joseph McCarthy was a Senator, and as such, would not have even been a _member_ of a House committee, much less its leader.
from the never-has-the-topic-icon-been-more-fitting dept.
Actually it has.
The purpose of life is to find the purpose of life.
Did you read the two provided links?
Granted they are spread over two comments but the information is true although the claim about the plagerism is still being debated by some.
I see nothign inflamatory about the parent post.
...an answer to the question that has plagued mankind for decades:
"What is Mr. Einstein REALLY LIKE?"
"Dead."
Heisenberg's Physics and Beyond is, on the other hand, a brilliant chronicle of the development of quantum physics. Heisenberg's disgust at faculty loyalty oaths and other trappings of National Socialism is clear. Heinsenberg also records the brilliance and humor of his colleagues, like Wolfgang Pauli, "There is no God and Dirac is His prophet!" Heisenberg is quite gracious to Einstein, so it is sad Einstein couldn't rise above his petty bitterness to all things quantum (what a cranky idiot savant).
Since this is Slashdot, there is of course no need to urge folks to read Stan Ulam's Adventures of a Mathematician. Y'all got it next to Feynman on your shelves, right?
mod parent up!
this is a great account of the other side of the man.
Try not to let life get in the way of living.
... he had dated Marilyn Munroe, and it had ended not on the best terms.
He spent most of the rest of his life taking cold showers.
"Nine times out of ten, starting a fire is not the best way to solve the problem." - my wife
As I read the posts here, it strikes me that now is no different, it's just a different group that the public hears. The scientists, poets, playwrights of earlier times were the celebrities of that era. They were looked up to and listened to. That's why so much of that history is tied to political leanings.
Just as the celebrities of our time are just as outspoken. Actors, actresses, musicians--their comments on Bush, Iraq, Blair.
It's just a different era and those that have the public's ear are not those same 'lofty' thinkers as they were then. Torvalds, Gates, or Jobs might have political leanings you've never even thought of, but it'll probably never make it to the press. It's just not what the public wants anymore.
I can't believe you've been modded "off topic".
Congrats my friend, you've proven to actually RTFA. The moderater proved himself or herself otherwise..
(in case of a her.. mod me baby!)
Yea.. I know..
Too soon? o_0
There are some really sucky moderators out there - they are too quick to rate some negatively. I get moderator access 2 or 3 times a week. I think one of the reasons is that I hardly ever rate negative, but instead rate positive the comments I want to stand out. I bet that the algorithm for choosing moderators watches for this.
Great ideas often receive violent opposition from mediocre minds. - Albert Einstein