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Daniel Robbins Resigns As Chief Gentoo Architect

bdowne01 writes "Gentoo Linux has experienced rapid growth in the past year--much to the credit of Daniel Robbins, the founder and Chief Architect of the project. Earlier today, he announced his resignation from his role on the gentoo-nfp mailing list." Tester adds "But before leaving, he has set up a non-profit foundation that will own all of the copyrights to Gentoo. The initial board of trustees will be appointed by Daniel, but next year they will be elected. The membership of the foundation will be open." Reader burnitall points out a note on the Gentoo homepage reading "... We are extremely sad to see Daniel Robbins depart, and we both wish him the best in his new endeavors and promise that the door will always be open for his return." Robbins' message also indicates he hopes to continue working on the release engineering aspect of Gentoo.

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  1. Can't read the press release... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... it's still compiling.

  2. D Robbins by chevybowtie · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Daniel Robbins day to day contributions will be missed. He has created the simplest way to manage a source based ditro to date. I hope his spirit will continue to influence the direction of the project.

    I have learned more about how Linux works in the last year with Gentoo than I had in the previous 3 trying RH, Debian and Suse.

    1. Re:D Robbins by RoadkillBunny · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I have learned more about how Linux works in the last year with Gentoo than I had in the previous 3 trying RH, Debian and Suse.
      You aren't the only one. I really like the documents on the site. The installation handbook made it a breeze and setuping other apps was easy too from the documentation on their site.

      Final words, thanks Daniel Robibs for providing us with a advanced distro that is easy to use.

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      Cheers,
      RoadkillBunny
  3. The future of Gentoo by klieber · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Daniel was an important, driving force behind Gentoo and his absence will undoubtedly be felt on the team. That said, he has laid the groundwork for a Not-for-Profit organization, lead by a Board of Trustees that will continue to ensure that Gentoo Linux remains a vibrant, capable distribution.

    For those of you concerned about this change, I remind you that Gentoo is one of the few remaining community-based Linux distributions. We are as successful as our community makes us. Thus, the best thing you can do to ensure the future success of Gentoo is to participate in its development, whether it be through testing ebuilds, writing documentation, fixing bugs on bugzilla or any one of the thousands of myriad tasks that make up Gentoo Linux.

    I'm not sure what Daniel's plans are for the future, but I wish him the best in whatever he chooses to pursue.

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    Gentoo Linux http://gentoo.org/
  4. Re:Gentoo's future by tomstdenis · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Doubt that. There are many many many people behind the scenes of Gentoo. Specifically each package you see there has at least one maintainer [most maintainers handle a slew of stuff].

    Thought yeah some central authority to guide the project is required asap to keep the momentum.

    Tom

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    Someday, I'll have a real sig.
  5. An Etiquette question by Magickcat · · Score: 5, Funny

    Should one wear a "tux" to a Linux distro's funeral?

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    Si tacuisses philosophus mansisses. If you had kept quiet, you would have remained a philosopher.

  6. Gentoo by On+Lawn · · Score: 5, Insightful


    Its well enough. It goes to show that talent is something you cannot fake, not even with a committee. When I saw Gentoo three things really stood out for me,

    1) It was a truely refreshing outlook on a distribution
    2) It is source based
    3) I was free from being unwitting pawn in the software binary release freedom debate

    When I ran and got to know Gentoo I saw genius was at work, the light nimble free-floating kind of genius unencumbered by committee. Much of that was DRobbins shining through (as shown by his technical writings of frontier Linux applications for IBM.)

    I will be sad to see him go, but to me it looked as if his inspiration was diluted by so many faces long ago. Don't get me wrong Gentoo is still my favorite and I run it exclusively at home. I think its gained much from Seemant and the others. But you just have to admire sometimes what individual talent can do on its own.

  7. Re:It's A Shame.. by Neil+Blender · · Score: 5, Insightful

    the copyrights have been entrusted to a nonprofit foundation

    Non-profits can be abused. Many non-profit charities pay their CEO's millions in salary and bonuses. I seem to remember the CEO of United Way getting paid something $25 million a while back. Non-profits can pretty much do anything they want with their money. Large paychecks, bonuses, wasteful spending, whatever... Anyway, just being non-profit does not make it a bastion of integrity.

  8. If you love something truly, let it go! by aeoo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think Daniel made a very wise decision. Gentoo is his child, and it looks like the child is reaching maturity and it's time for Gentoo to move out of the parents' house.

  9. cant emerge a chief architect by craqboy · · Score: 5, Funny
    linucks root # emerge chief_architect
    Calculating dependencies
    emerge: there are no masked or unmasked ebuilds to satisfy "chief_architect".

    !!! Error calculating dependencies. Please correct.
    linucks root #

  10. Gentoo Copyrights by David+Hume · · Score: 5, Informative

    From the article:
    But before leaving, he has set up a non-profit foundation that will own all of the copyrights to Gentoo.


    Copyright Assignment to Gentoo

    Gentoo Technologies Inc. Copyright Assignment Form

    Gentoo Documentation Issues

  11. Re:Offer from BS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We'd all like to be doing what we love to do, but sometimes we learn to grow by doing what makes us more money and ultimately more leisure time to spend with friends and family.

    Participation in the dog-eat-dog struggle is almost entirely unnecessary for most people. The poverty level in Western countries exceeds the upper middle class of most other countries.

    One could, if one were willing to give up one's lifestyle, live cheaply and have leisure time for friends and family in abundance. A trailer home in Kentucky can be had for $1000, and a diet of ground beef, flour, spices and vegetables can sustain a family for less than $5000 a year.

    You are not working for leisure time, don't kid yourself. Almost any working American today could retire and move to a 3rd world country and live comfortably forever. You are working for DSL, the new Radeon, that huge TV, the laptop, your spiffy car, fancy dinners, nice clothes and every other element required to 'keep up with the Joneses'. You find those things more valuable than pursuit of what you love, if you are not doing what you love.

  12. Re:More Gentoo Instability by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    In roughly the same place we were three years ago. :-)

  13. Gentoo corporation news. by David+Hume · · Score: 5, Interesting

    From OS News, Posted on 2002-05-14:

    4. How is Gentoo, the company, organized? What is its member structure? Also, how one can get CVS commit access?

    Daniel Robbins: At its heart, Gentoo Linux really isn't a company but a development team and user community. I do have a corporation called Gentoo Technologies, Inc. that holds the copyrights for the vast majority of our GPL code, but that's it. We aren't generating any income from Gentoo Linux (besides donations), and our development team is 100% volunteer. Generally, we have been completely supported by donations, particularly from a few of our developers. For example, our server is in a great datacenter thanks to a generous developer. As we grow, we plan to gradually wean ourselves from our dependence on donations by developing creative and "free software-friendly" ways of generating income.


    Does Robbins own all of the stock in Gentoo Technologies, Inc.? If so, conversion to non-profit status may be easy (though having the IRS recognize it as non-profit for tax purposes may not.) If others own some of the stock, it conversion may prove problematic as they might have to agree. Otherwise, there might be a shareholders lawsuit for corporate waste (i.e., in this case, making a gift of corporate assets without compensation).

    Why was Gentoo Technologies, Inc. initially set up as a for-profit company? It doesn't make sense. Since it was not a 501(c)(3) non-profit, donations to Gentoo Technologies, Inc. were not tax deductible. (Hell, it may have been the case that the donors were legally, albeit technically, responsible to pay gift tax on any donation over the annual limit.)

  14. Purely Personal by metallikop · · Score: 5, Informative
    It seems like Daniel's reasons for leaving were purely personal/family related. Not that I can blame him

    Here's a snippit:

    "OK. The purpose of this is to allow me to continue to support my family by doing things like pay for a house, pay for food, and potentially pay off some of the $20,000 in debt I accumulated during my tenure as Chief Architect of Gentoo, etc."
    1. Re:Purely Personal by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 5, Insightful
      What kind of a retard goes into debt $20,000 to produce free software? It's not like you'll ever make a profit off of it......

      He can put down on his resume that he created one of the top 10 most popular Linux distros, and that he supervised quite a few interesting technical innovations unique to that distro.

      This experience would help qualify for a job with a salary quite a bit more than $20,000 (not to mention more influence and responsibility) over that of a random code monkey.

  15. Re:Has any reason been given? by arkhan_jg · · Score: 5, Informative

    No details yet - but this
    looks like it may well be part of the reason;
    specifically, he cannnot (and should not) have to shoulder the financial risk necessary to shift gentoo to its full Not For Profit status.

    Given that he has a young family to support, I for one can sympathise with his position.

    There's going to be an official announcement once the dust settles slightly, but thisappears to be the live gentoo forum thread.

    Go easy on it, the forums are pretty heavily loaded at the best of times, and the last thing the place needs is a full blown slashdotting!

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    Remember kids, it's all fun and games until someone commits wholesale galactic genocide.
  16. If Any Of You Have The Gaul.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful



    You can take your personal criticisms of Dan and politely ram them up your ass.

    Let me make something clear here. I don't know Dan. Never met him, never talked with him. What I do know, however, is that he fits a mold i've seen over and over again in the past 10 years. There's a certain spirit of selflessness and altruism that underpins pretty much everything "major" going on in the Linux community. People like Dan give hours upon hours of their time, building, creating, fixing, and helping people they can't even see, and know they will never meet. They do it because it's fun, and they do it because it makes them feel good to know they're helping someone else. That's all there is to it.

    Just incase you weren't in school the day they taught this, here's basically how it works: Criticizing the character or works of someone who shows charity, thoughtfulness, and selflessness makes you a royal fucking asshole. Infact, ANY form of criticism of people like Dan aught to be promptly rejected, returned, then rammed tightly up the ass of it's issuer.

    You, the beneficiary of the hard work of people like Daniel Robbins and the Gentoo development community, have absolutely no right to complain, question, or laugh at any decision he happens to make in regard to his own life. Looking back at the Linux community landscape over the past 5 years, we can see what happened to people who continually gave blindly, and asked for essentially nothing in return. Dan's decision to pull back from the front lines is one of the smartest moves he could possibly make at this point of the game. Criticisms about software are one thing. Commentary on someone's financial status are something entirely different, and something you have no fucking right to criticize..Especially from someone who did nothing but give you shit for free.

    And even if that weren't the case here....that he's turning the reins over for a totally different reason...WTF have you done that gives you the right to criticize him, or anyone who in his position?

    Cheers,
    Bowie J. Poag

  17. Re:Offer from BS by ryanvm · · Score: 5, Funny

    A trailer home in Kentucky can be had for $1000, and a diet of ground beef, flour, spices and vegetables can sustain a family for less than $5000 a year.

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