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Linspire Accused Of Misusing Creative Commons Art

SuperDuG writes "Seems that intellectual property and copyright laws are something that Linspire still doesn't seem to have a firm grasp of. Their flash intro has with it some popular Linux images made by a rather talented artist. An email to Klowner was the first notice he ever got about the images being hijacked, not once has Linspire requested permission to use these images in their ad campaign. They seem pretty similar to me, you be the judge."

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  1. Re:Marketing... by mahdi13 · · Score: 3, Informative
    Whoops, yes it is...
    As of April 24th, the images are licensed under the Creative Commons License (Attribution/NonCommercial) which explicitly states that the work may not be used for commercial purposes, unless permission is provided by the author
    Bad Linspire, BAD!!
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  2. Re:Marketing... by odie_q · · Score: 3, Informative

    You do not need a disclaimer. If no explicit permission is granted to use the images, people have no such permission. As an extra heads-up, the kde-look pages are all marked with "All rights reserved," which is pretty much the opposite of an explicit permission to use the images as you see fit.

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  3. Re:Another misleading title by Neon+Spiral+Injector · · Score: 5, Informative

    No, since there was not CC license when the Flash demo was made, and there was no mention of copyright, then the default copyright laws apply. That is no derived works are permitted, period.

    The CC license now allows non-commercial derived works.

  4. Re:Honestly, I don't get it. by Christianfreak · · Score: 3, Informative

    The GPL doesn't forbid people from making money off of their software... let me repeat that ... The GPL does not forbid people from making money off of their software.

    The GPL basically says 2 things: First people are free to modify or redistribute however they wish (they can even charge money). Secondly the GPL program must come with (or at least have freely availiable) the source code to the program.

    The Creative Commons liscense is trying to do the same thing with artwork that the GPL has done for software. The difference is there really isn't a 'source code' for art other than the artist's head. So the stipulation is keep it out of commerical products unless you have a specific licsense to do so. Which really is the same effect the GPL has on software.

  5. Re:Ironic... by Klowner · · Score: 3, Informative

    http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=2 045
    ^ notice the post date.. mid-2002

    Lindows wasn't a sponsor at the time I'm quite sure, if my memory serves me right. Also the submission system on kde-look allows you specify a license, and at the time the wallpapers were posted, they didn't have that feature.

  6. Re:The enemy of my enemy may not be my friend... by Daniel+Boisvert · · Score: 4, Informative

    Another fact about this story that leaves me wondering -- the Klown website very sneakily says (paraphrased) as of 24 April is licensed under ... Well, inquiring minds want to know: PREVIOUS to 24 April, under which (if any) license was it released under?

    It's not sneaky. He released his stuff under the CC effective April 24. Previous to that he granted permission on a case-by-case basis to folks who asked if they could use his work, and standard copyright protections applied.

    (FYI--I know him; I'm not just pulling this out of my ass..)

  7. Re:Marketing... by gathond · · Score: 4, Informative

    The article states:
    Prior to the addition of the CC license on Klowner's wallpaper site, there was no specific copyright, although standard international copyrights still hold.

    And since (link on the article) the default with regard to copyright on works (art, or whatever) is that if there is no mention of something else things are copyrighted. It would stand to reason that if Linspire "borrowed" the art before the artist changed to the CC license, they were still breaking copyright laws, and so would anyone else who without the authors explicit permission copied the work in question.

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  8. Re:Marketing... by spitzak · · Score: 3, Informative

    According to the linked pages, he previously put no indication of any license on the images. This means they could not be reused for anything, per US copyright law. Everything you create is copyrighted by default.

  9. Re:Linspire are Lassholes by throughthewire · · Score: 4, Informative
    What I find more ironic is that this is coming up in the context of Free Software advocacy. Shucks, people freely share code that they spent hundreds of hours of their time on.... how about some artists doing the same?

    Umm... the artist in question did exactly that. These images are free for non-commercial usage (Creative Commons License.) The artist requires permission for non-commercial useage - if you're using his work to make a buck, you should share part of that buck.

  10. Re:Creative Commons Isn't Free by pavon · · Score: 3, Informative

    How about actually listing some real complaints with the CC instead of some vague deragatory remarks. A creative commons licence depends on the terms you select, and does indeed meet Debians and FSF's definition of free for many of these options. In fact the free software foundation recomends that you use a Creative Common licence for works other than software and documentation. Furthermore, I have talked to Richard Stallman about this and he agrees that different types of works need different types and amounts protection and that when he started the FSF he did was only concidering software, and does not project his moral beliefs of software copyright and patents onto all copyright and patent.

    The creative commons creates a common set of licences that simplify things for the creator, distributer, and consumer. It also creates a single umbrella movement for encouraging more open licencing of works. It is a valuable work.

  11. Re:Questions by Klowner · · Score: 4, Informative

    I didn't give them permission, because they never asked for it.

  12. Re:Copyright on Prior Art by Fedallah · · Score: 3, Informative

    Is it the "pissing Calvin" stickers that seem to adorn every pickup truck in the U.S.A.? That is a violation as far as I understand, and as far as the creator of C&H is concerned, but he doesn't give a rats ass aparently.

    Actually, Bill Watterson (creator of Calvin and Hobbes) threatened to sue the company that made those stickers, and the company has since changed the stickers to a different image which is apparently not considered derivative. Watterson is known to be very protective of his copyrights; he won't even license the images for merchandising. Some information here.

  13. Re:Linspire are Lassholes by JimDabell · · Score: 4, Informative

    How is it that Linspired contributed WINE, KDE, and Mozilla?

    You mean contributed to WINE, KDE and Mozilla? It's all there on the page I linked to. If you are having trouble reading, I'll quote:

    Lindows.com is the founder, maintainer, and lead sponsor for Nvu, a complete, easy-to-use Web Authoring System for Linux (such as FrontPage and Dreamweaver).

    Lindows.com contributed nearly a half million dollars to CodeWeavers, other 3rd-party developers, and our own in-house engineers to help get Microsoft Office to run on Linux with WINE. 100% of all the code we developed, as well as any code we've paid to have developed and continue to develop, was contributed back to the open source WINE tree.

    Lindows.com is a proud sponsor of the KDE League at the highest Corporate Affiliate level. All changes made to KDE are open source and the code is made available to be put in the main tree.

    Lindows.com is the proud sponsor of KDE-look.org. KDE-look.org is the premier site on the web to obtain icons, wall papers, themes, etc. for KDE.

    Lindows.com is a proud supporter of Mozilla. All changes made to Mozilla are open source and the code is made available to be put in the main tree.

    Lindows.com paid for the development of a "kids" theme for KDE which was then contributed to all as open source.

    Lindows.com sponsored the first wineCONF (http://lindows.com/wineconf) conference for WINE. (Video from the last conference, held at our offices in San Diego.) Additionally, we paid for the costs to have dozens of WINE developers from all over the world travel to this event.

    Lindows.com contributes all changes to Mozilla, Nvu, KDE, WINE, Debian, etc. back to these projects as well as making the source code available. (http://lindows.com/licensing).

    That looks like pretty substantial contribution to me. Yeah, they must really be assholes to give us all that!