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Koalas Gone Wild

Mabon writes "CNN reports that 30,000 of the starving animals are destroying the ecosystem by stripping away the greenery. The Austrailian government proposes shooting some 20,000 of them to reduce the amount of gum trees used by the animals."

115 comments

  1. Capture and Sell them! by jonbboy · · Score: 2, Funny

    As Pets!

    I can't wait to have my own Koala!

    1. Re:Capture and Sell them! by jfdawes · · Score: 5, Informative

      They sleep 14 hours a day, they are grouchy, irritable and they stink.

      They have two defense mechanisms: Peeing on things and exceedingly long, tough claws.

      They view many things, including being held as threatening and they are not afraid to use both defense mechanisms on short notice.

      Koalas are one of the worst pets you could possibly have.

    2. Re:Capture and Sell them! by jonbboy · · Score: 1

      Or they could be sold zoo animals. Or be relocated to eucalyptus reserves around australia, or in other parts of the world (maybe California). Why kill them if there are viable alternatives?

    3. Re:Capture and Sell them! by DoubleD · · Score: 3, Funny

      Ok so add an intermediate step.

      Capture, Stuff, and then sell them ;).

      Seriously though what do you do with 20000 dead or unwanted Koalas, at least lets get some use out of them. Something better than fertilizer hopefully.

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    4. Re:Capture and Sell them! by KingOfBLASH · · Score: 4, Funny

      You're assuming that we would buy a pet koala to give to people we like. From your description, I know what a lot of the people I work with are getting for Christmas.

    5. Re:Capture and Sell them! by 0x0d0a · · Score: 4, Funny

      They sleep 14 hours a day, they are grouchy, irritable and they stink.

      They have two defense mechanisms: Peeing on things and exceedingly long, tough claws.

      They view many things, including being held as threatening and they are not afraid to use both defense mechanisms on short notice.


      There are a band of lunatics that enjoy being subjected to this kind of behavior. We call them "cat lovers".

    6. Re:Capture and Sell them! by DAldredge · · Score: 1

      So they think they are starlets with PMS 24/7?

    7. Re:Capture and Sell them! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Koalas are one of the worst pets you could possibly have.

      What about rabid tigers, tapeworms, Ebola viruses, mutated polar bears...?

    8. Re:Capture and Sell them! by Alsee · · Score: 4, Funny

      Still, having a pet koala would be an increadible chick magnet. It's a great item to get a coversation rolling and a great opportunity to invite them back to your place. What girl can resist a chance to cuddle a live teddybear?

      As for the claws, those can always be clipped.

      As for the peeing, that just means he likes you! And remember guys, if you toss her clothes in your washing machine that means she isn't wearing them!

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    9. Re:Capture and Sell them! by Ayaress · · Score: 2, Informative

      Or they could be sold zoo animals.

      Every zoo worth its salt already has them, and they are being bred in captivity. Also, the existing zoo stock is more conditioned to humans and less likely to flip out on them (Despite being cute and cuddley, Koalas are fairly well armed for defense, as an above post described).

      Furthur, good luck finding a market for tens of thousands of Koalas in zoos. Even if they weren't already in every zoo in the world, you'd be hard pressed to sell that many of them.

      Or be relocated to eucalyptus reserves around australia, or in other parts of the world (maybe California).

      The problem with Australia is that relocating them will allow them to breed FASTER (same population, more food) and in fifteen years, we'll have 500,000 of them and need to shoot 490,000 before the ecosystem collapses. Relocating does nothing if you don't figure out and fix what's wrong to allow them to overbreed their food supply like this.

      A simple look at Australian history will tell you why relocating them to California is a big no-no. Australia is a case-study in how much damage an imported species can do to the existing ecosystem.

      On the other hand, maybe Australia should seed Koala populations throughout the world. Sort of their way of saying, "How you like it now, bitch?"

    10. Re:Capture and Sell them! by Ayaress · · Score: 1

      I don't know. My tape worm has yet to pee on me for no apparant reason.

    11. Re:Capture and Sell them! by Bloater · · Score: 1

      turn them into fur coats, oil, and pig feed

    12. Re:Capture and Sell them! by riprjak · · Score: 1

      They sleep TWENTY hours a day and are surly and unpersonable.

      They are also prone to dropping dead from stress.

      The can eat the leaves of only ONE strain of one species of Eucalypt and said leaves have a narcotic effect on them. The dont even drink, getting their fluid from their diet.

      Koalas are not just the worst pets, they are bloody shameful animals, if Australia had any serious predators, they would long ago have become extinct.

      err!
      jak

    13. Re:Capture and Sell them! by Glonoinha · · Score: 1

      They spend up to 20 hours a day asleep, and the 4 hours they are awake they spend in a drugged up stupor stuffing their faces. They are not particularly discriminating about where they pee.

      Sounds like a room-mate I had in college.

      Still, I would love one as a pet. Given the two choices, either slaughter 20,000 of them, or sell them as exotic pets for $2,500 apiece for $50M in profit - I think the 'exotic pet' avenue needs to be reconsidered.

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    14. Re:Capture and Sell them! by cujo_1111 · · Score: 1

      They are also prone to dropping dead from stress.

      Hence the orgin of the mythical Australian Drop Bear...

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    15. Re:Capture and Sell them! by riprjak · · Score: 1

      nothing mythical about the drop bears... one day, you will be walking through the scrub with eyes open for jump bats and *wham* a drop bear will get you from behind...

      Be afraid, be very afraid :)

      err!
      jak

    16. Re:Capture and Sell them! by Tiram · · Score: 1
      There are a band of lunatics that enjoy being subjected to this kind of behavior. We call them "cat lovers".

      You, bad man, had me splurting bread crumbs all over my keyboard. I hate people who make me laugh while I eat or drink!

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    17. Re:Capture and Sell them! by Valdrax · · Score: 1

      Aw, man. I'm crying from the strain of not busting out laughing in my cubicle.
      I'm going to have to post this and then get away quickly before I fail to keep my slacking quiet.

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    18. Re:Capture and Sell them! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They have two defense mechanisms: Peeing on things and exceedingly long, tough claws.

      Sounds a bit like sorority girls.

  2. Worthless article by Thomas+A.+Anderson · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That CNN article is the most useless one I've read in ages. It fails to provide any of the following information:

    1) How would nature control population growth in koalas?

    2) Have we in some way removed that control and can it be re-introduced.

    All the article talks about is why we should or should not shoot them. There is no indication whatsoever that anybody cares why the koalas are overpopulated (and no, a quick blurb about urbanization doesn't count).

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    1. Re:Worthless article by node+3 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      1) How would nature control population growth in koalas?

      1. Introduce a deadly predator capable of killing 20,000 of them (which is the plan).

      2. Disease (bad idea).

      3. Famine (the plan is to prevent this because the Australians like trees and koalas).

      That doesn't mean I advocate a hunt as a solution to every animal problem, but sometimes it is the solution.

    2. Re:Worthless article by jfdawes · · Score: 4, Funny

      the Australians like trees and koalas

      Most Australians do not like Koalas much. (see my other post on this subject). They put up with them because stupid tourists pay a lot of money to be peed on.
      Also, it's fun to go to a tourist trap, stand around the bottom of a tree and point up at it and walk away once the crowd gathers. Couldn't do that if the Koalas were all dead now, could we?
    3. Re:Worthless article by hummassa · · Score: 4, Funny

      Condoms?

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    4. Re:Worthless article by node+3 · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the "heads up".

      (I know there's a Foster's joke in there somewhere, just waiting to get out)

    5. Re:Worthless article by SEE · · Score: 4, Insightful

      1) How would nature control population growth in koalas?
      2) Have we in some way removed that control and can it be re-introduced.


      The island itself is not a native habitat for koalas; they were introduced by humans. There is therefore no natural control on the koalas on the island. To restore the natural balance, one would eliminate the artifical infestation by the artificial means of killing all the koalas.

    6. Re:Worthless article by azav · · Score: 4, Insightful

      WWND: What Would Nature Do?

      1) Starvation or disease

      2) Nature is taking its course. It is a standard population model of food availability and population increase that is explained in Biology of Populations.

      We apply our human morals to a natural process and declare it "bad". Well, it may be but it IS what happens in nature when the population of a species exceeds the carrying capacity and food availability of the environment that holds it.

      If the population needs to be controlled, the proven method is to thin the reproducing females or relocate them into another population.

      PIck up an Ecology or Bio of Populations book. Very enlightening reading.

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    7. Re:Worthless article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Careful, it's not human morals that make it look "bad," it's mainly Western urban morals, or perhaps Christian morals. Many (most?) cultures outside of Western societies definitely don't have a problem with letting nature run its course.

    8. Re:Worthless article by bigsteve@dstc · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Nature is taking its course.

      ... except that Koalas are not native to Kangaroo Island.

      This is like saying feral cats and foxes pushing many Australian native mammals and birds to extinction is "nature taking its course". It is true, but beside the point.

      What Australians (those who care about these things) want is that the wild places of Australia are like they were before Capt Cook "discovered" Terra Australis. If this means killing introduced pests like cats, foxes, rabbits, camels, cane toads ... and culling koala and roo populations that have gotten out of control ... so be it.

      FYI, the Australian lanscape has been actively managed by man for thousands of years. This is the natural state of things.

    9. Re:Worthless article by tooth · · Score: 1

      Most Australians I know hate the taste of fosters, I don't even rember seeing for sale here anywhere recently, maybe only in a bottle shop, certainly never on tap.

    10. Re:Worthless article by Thomas+A.+Anderson · · Score: 1

      The article made no mention of them not being native - can you cite a source? If they are not native, then no wonder they have no natural population control!

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    11. Re:Worthless article by SEE · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yes, I can: Right Here.

      Money quote:
      Not native to Kangaroo Island, Koalas are now devastating, through overeating, these eucalypts.

      And I agree that the Reuters article (the actual source, CNN just reprinted it) was basically worthless.

    12. Re:Worthless article by azav · · Score: 1

      You stated that Koalas are not native to Kangaroo Island.

      Nevertheless, Nature is taking its course.

      1) New species introduced into a closed environment with no competitors and predators.

      2) Species multiplies and population increases.

      3) Population exceeds carrying capacity of environment by exceeding food supply or overcrowding.

      4) Starvation or disease takes over reducing or wiping out population. If food supply has been removed, population dies out completely. In any case, Mass die off occurs

      6) If food supply not completely removed, food supply starts to increase over the years. Population of species follows availability of food until either a fluctuating stasis is achieved or the population boom, mass die off situation repeats itself.

      This is STILL a natural process. To reflect on your point, no matter how the Koalas got there, this would happen and should be expected to in any case, be it manmade or the result of a natural event.

      If Koalas floated over to Kangaroo Island on a log, the same thing would have happened.

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    13. Re:Worthless article by nacturation · · Score: 0

      Interesting. Encyclopedia.com says koalas *are* native to Australia. As does this site which claims they've been on Australia for some 25 million years. Got any more reliable sources?

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    14. Re:Worthless article by nacturation · · Score: 1

      You can ignore my other post (though who knows what the mods will do). I incorrectly assumed "Kangaroo Island" is the nickname for Australia. My bad.

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    15. Re:Worthless article by SEE · · Score: 1

      Aw, and I had already started composing my flame over the other post . . .

    16. Re:Worthless article by d-rock · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, racoons are native to North America but not to Hawaii or Death Valley. Australia is a huge country/continent. Kangaroo Island is a small island off the South coast, near Adelaide. They really aren't native on the island and they *are* forcing other animals out. I was there last year and it didn't seem that bad (we only saw a handful of Koalas in the Koala sanctuary on the West end of the island), but on an island it can be fairly easy to disturb the natural balance.

      Derek

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    17. Re:Worthless article by gardyloo · · Score: 1

      Also, it's fun to go to a tourist trap, stand around the bottom of a tree and point up at it and walk away once the crowd gathers. Couldn't do that if the Koalas were all dead now, could we?

      Why not?

      Besides which, now you can have 20,000 tourist traps.

      1) Put a stuffed koala waaay up in some random tree (doesn't have to be eucalyptus -- tourists aren't going to care), or on a building, or in the bottom of a pool with cute little SCUBA gear on it.
      2)Stand and point.
      Oh, yeah...
      3) ...

      4) Profit!

    18. Re:Worthless article by Glonoinha · · Score: 1

      The punchline to the koala joke is "Eats, shoots, and leaves." The rest has been left as an exercise for the reader.

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    19. Re:Worthless article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You fucking dolt!

    20. Re:Worthless article by Evil+Pete · · Score: 1

      Most Australians do not like Koalas much

      Not where I live in Brisbane. A government got thrown out of office because they wanted to put a bypass that would have disturbed about 20 koalas. Whenever, I've seen them everyone is interested and keen to let it be undisturbed. Mind you I think the notion by people outside Oz that they are cuddly is crazy ... wild animals are not cuddly ... koalas have big powerful claws and aren't afraid to use them. Leave em be.

      As for Kangaroo Island. Maybe they should just introduce dingos to wipe out the excess. Yeah that would probably impact other species there, but so are the koalas. There is no 'Disney' solution to the problem.

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    21. Re:Worthless article by bigsteve@dstc · · Score: 1
      When you introduce a new species into a closed system, you modify the system in ways that are often catastrophic to other species in the system. When the the system regains its balance, it could be radically different. While the process is (arguably) natural, the end result is plainly undesirable.

      Koalas have no sigificant predators on KI, and they are drastically modifying the KI environment by killing off the eucalypt forests. This deforestation is removing food sources and destroying habitat for many other native animals and birds on KI. For example, there is an endangered population of around 200 Glossy Black Cockatoos (Calyptorhynchus lathami halmaturinus) on KI that depend on nest hollows in mature eucalypts.

      If Koalas floated over to Kangaroo Island on a log, the same thing would have happened.

      A koala floating to KI on a log is about as likely as an American tourist being bitten by a Drop Bear!

    22. Re:Worthless article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the "converse" is easier:

      "Coors. American for koala piss."

    23. Re:Worthless article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've played too much EQ in my life. I thought you said you lived on bristlebane.

    24. Re:Worthless article by FictionPimp · · Score: 1

      wouldn't man made be natrual, or are we unnatural, or maybe super natural, or maybe we are robots. OMG!!! people are robots. Seriously, its all natural. Its like saying a product is all natural. Everything comes from nature, even plastic, we just make it deadly. Thats the "nature" of humans.

  3. Koalas are heavily dependent on the ecosystem by linzeal · · Score: 5, Funny

    They only eat one type of food, you know and that is a poor adapation imho. I bet they taste like it too, icky. Unless you want your meat to taste like an herbal cough drop.

  4. You Idiot! by Carnildo · · Score: 4, Funny

    Those aren't koalas, they're drop bears!

    A drop bear is an animal similar to a koala, but slightly larger, with sharper claws and teeth adapted for eating meat. The primary food of the drop bear is other animals, however, they have been known to go after humans, particularly overseas tourists. Their name derives from their means of hunting: they lurk in trees, and drop down on their unsuspecting victims.

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    1. Re:You Idiot! by Zordak · · Score: 1
      Do you have a three-year-old? Because you sound an awful lot like Winnie the Pooh.

      Pooh: Well, Jagulars always yell "Halloo!" And then, when you look up, they drop on you.
      Piglet: [Stuttering] I-I-I'm looking down, Pooh.
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    2. Re:You Idiot! by droyad · · Score: 1

      While I was overseas I had some yank dead convinced that this was true. That was until one of the other aussies just couldn't stand it anymore and burst out in hysterical laughter.. damn was that american's face red :).

    3. Re:You Idiot! by Lairdsville · · Score: 1

      Drop bears are nasty animals. They are like a Tasmanian Devil, but they are slightly larger and angrier.
      A lot of people laugh about them until they see one take out a kangaroo. You don't want one of these guys dropping on you!

  5. This could sell in Canada by the_other_one · · Score: 2, Funny

    Unless you want your meat to taste like an herbal cough drop

    Buckley's koala burgers.
    They taste terrible
    But they work.

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  6. Relocation would be nice... by RedPhoenix · · Score: 2, Informative
    .. though I'm not sure it would be particularly cost-effective.

    Here in Canberra, we recently had some fairly significant bushfires (Brushfires to US readers.. though I agree with a slashdot poster of a few months back, who thought that brushfire sounded like a problem caused by overactive grooming...).

    As part of the fires, one of our wonderful nature parks ( Tidbinbilla) has lost all but one of their Koalas. Now that leaves are starting to come back onto the trees once more, it might be a good time to try and acquire some more koalas.. This would seem to be an ideal opportunity to bring back a koala population into the area.

    I suspect though, that the costs might be somewhat prohibitive, and I'm not really sure about territorial habits of Koalas, so there might be other factors that would make transferrel difficult.

    Red.

    1. Re:Relocation would be nice... by RedPhoenix · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Here's a picture of 'lucky' by the way: Here

    2. Re:Relocation would be nice... by Piquan · · Score: 2, Funny

      (Brushfires to US readers.. though I agree with a slashdot poster of a few months back, who thought that brushfire sounded like a problem caused by overactive grooming...).

      And what do you think 'bushfires' sounds like to us yanks?

    3. Re:Relocation would be nice... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I really don't see the point. If the koalas couldn't put out the bushfires the first time, I don't think they'll be able to do it in the future either.

  7. I like this plan. by gklinger · · Score: 5, Funny
    And when they're done with those damn koalas, they can go to work on those evil pandas.

    No, animals were harmed in the making of this post.

    1. Re:I like this plan. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh yeah? Several small cute furry animals were senselessly slaughtered in the creation of this post!

  8. So cute! by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 4, Funny

    If you kill them without damaging their lovely coats you could remove the insides and stuff them with something safe so they can be sold to children as cuddly toys. Hmmm...you'd probably have to replace the eyes too. Can't wait to see them in stores!

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    1. Re:So cute! by Captain+Nitpick · · Score: 2, Funny
      If you kill them without damaging their lovely coats you could remove the insides and stuff them with something safe so they can be sold to children as cuddly toys. Hmmm...you'd probably have to replace the eyes too. Can't wait to see them in stores!
      Ob-Futurama:

      Sheldon: Do any of you collect Lovey Bears?

      Amy: I do! Kif's given me dozens! Is it true what the ad says? That you kiss them together out of blanket cloth and magic buttons?

      Gwen: No.

      Sheldon: It's actually cheaper to genetically engineer real ones. [The walkway passes an area of grass where Lovey Bears turn around playing with each other and picking flowers.] They frolic in the Lovey Forest until their first birthday then we choose the cuddly-uddliest ones and stuff them full of fire retardant love fluff!

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    2. Re:So cute! by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 1

      Hey! I never watch Futurama. But maybe I should.

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    3. Re:So cute! by nacturation · · Score: 1

      If you're going to go to all that trouble, why kill them at all? Simply slice down the middle, remove koala from skin, and put koala into an airtight plastic baggy. Seal the bag (don't forget to poke holes for the nose, mouth, and a few other orifices) and release back into the wild.

      Now you have a valuable koala pelt which you can stuff for children's toys or sew into a wonderful evening coat. Plus, you didn't have to kill any animals in the process so animal activists will be pleased as well. Everybody wins!

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  9. Not native by moxruby · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is happening on Kangaraoo island, off the coast of south australia.

    Koalas were introduced here by humans in the 1920's.
    They are not a natural part of the ecosystem.

    1. Re:Not native by bruthasj · · Score: 1

      So, bring on the frag fest!

    2. Re:Not native by Glonoinha · · Score: 1

      Well it seems that on Kangaroo Island the koalas don't have any natural predators. Seems the trick is going to be to arm the kangaroos and teach them that koala meat is yummy.

      That or bring tigers to Kangaroo Island, that will fix things right up!

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    3. Re:Not native by bigsteve@dstc · · Score: 1
      The only native predator in Australia that could possibly take on a koala is a dingo, and even then only if it happened to find one on the ground.

      The dingo is not native to Kangaroo Island. Introducing it there would cause worse damage than the problem of koalas. Besides, the dingo is regarded as a pest in pastoral country because it kills sheep.

    4. Re:Not native by tommck · · Score: 1
      This is happening on Kangaraoo[sic] island, off the coast of south australia.
      Koalas were introduced here by humans in the 1920's.
      They are not a natural part of the ecosystem.
      Neither were humans!
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    5. Re:Not native by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      dont forget, dingo's take babys.

    6. Re:Not native by bigsteve@dstc · · Score: 1

      That's OK. (White) babies are not native to Australia. :-)

  10. slippers anyone??? by DrKludge · · Score: 4, Funny

    Forget pets, I bet they would make nice, soft, fuzzy slippers.

  11. I used to live there. by Thornae · · Score: 4, Informative

    This story is something I've been keeping track of for the past ten years or so, because I actually used to live on Kangaroo Island (lovely place, don't miss it if you're visiting South Australia).

    As mentioned above, the koalas were introduced to KI early last century, and thus have nothing to regulate their population growth as they do on the mainland.
    The problem was first brought up about a decade ago, when scientists studying the koalas noticed how large the population was getting, and predicted they'd start stripping their own food sources in a few years. Around that time, the idea of a cull by professional shooters was quietly raised, discussed, and concluded by various intelligent folk to be a good idea.
    Then some idiot journalist got hold of it, and beat up a huge story: "They're planning to shoot hundreds of our cute, cuddly national icons!!!"
    After the media stink from that, the fucking State Government stated that they would ban the shooting of the koalas. Like it was something to do with them.
    Anyway, to show they were doing something about the koala overpopulation problem, they instituted a capture and sterilization program. Yes, they thought they'd stop all those naughty koalas breeding, but leave them in place. Aside from the lifespan of a koala being such that they're still going to destroy their habitat, it's being completely ineffectively implimented.
    It takes about two to four man-hours to find and capture one koala. Sterilizing them is another half hour to hour operation, and then they've got to be kept in a cage for a day or so...
    I know one of the two (yes, two) vets working on this, and he's got no illusions that it's anything more than a political sop to the idiot majority who can't bear the thought of shooting those cute little animals.
    The fact that the notion of culling them has now arisen again shows just how effective this program has been.

    And do you know what? The local media are still running with the same fucking slant!!
    "They're going to shoot all these cute little koala bears, how awful!"

    I think 30,000 koalas starving to death would be a damn sight worse, and far crueler. I'm in favour of the cull.

    Oh, and before you ask, we can't really ship them anywhere else. Unless you know somewhere that's able to accomodate 20,000 koalas on short notice, and have a few million dollars to implement the move.

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    1. Re:I used to live there. by 0x0d0a · · Score: 1

      Oh, and before you ask, we can't really ship them anywhere else. Unless you know somewhere that's able to accomodate 20,000 koalas on short notice, and have a few million dollars to implement the move.

      Japan is nuts about koalas. I doubt the climate works, though.

      What eats koalas on the mainland? What about introducing a couple of those predators?

    2. Re:I used to live there. by Thornae · · Score: 3, Informative

      Nothing actually eats koalas. Since their diet consists entirely of eucalyptus leaves, the meat would be almost inedible.
      Australia doesn't actually have any large land predators except humans. Generally, the environment is harsh enough to act as population control. In this case, the Island (as it's known to locals) lacks sufficient nastiness of climate and such to reduce the population through attrition.

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    3. Re:I used to live there. by fifedrum · · Score: 1

      s/koala/deer/g s/KI/Rochester/g

      same problem, different animal... we wound up shooting them by giving bow hunters licenses and openening a special hunting season. No one attempted to interfere and the problem went away.

      Of course, instead of just starving, they were walking into roads and getting into trouble with the laws of physics.

  12. Eat 'em by Bowling+Moses · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Seriously--if you have to kill them anyway, why waste all that meat? Besides there's plenty of carnivores like me who'd be interested in trying them out for no other reason than culinary curiosity. Other places have taken similar steps: Lousiana has a problem with damage done by nutria (think sorta like a muskrat) that was once prized as a furbearer but now is regarded as an invasive species and as a nuisance. The solution provided by the website: "The Coastwide Nutria Control Program, paired with the promotion of nutria meat as a high-protein, low-fat food source, is the main hope for Louisiana's coast." Yum.

    1. Re:Eat 'em by 0x0d0a · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Other places have taken similar steps: Lousiana has a problem with damage done by nutria (think sorta like a muskrat) that was once prized as a furbearer but now is regarded as an invasive species and as a nuisance. The solution provided by the website: "The Coastwide Nutria Control Program, paired with the promotion of nutria meat as a high-protein, low-fat food source, is the main hope for Louisiana's coast." Yum.

      Good job, PETA. "Don't wear fur, don't wear fur, don't...damn, we're covered in muskrats."

    2. Re:Eat 'em by jmatthew3 · · Score: 1

      The problem with that is most locals don't WANT to eat nutria meat. We think of nutria like really big sewer rats. They populate our series of uncovered drainage ditches we call canals. Lots of the New Orleans area is below sea level, so we have a fairly massive series of these canals, taking all the excess rain through these canals, and pump it and all the bad stuff from lawns, streets, etc, into Lake Pontchartrain, which eventually empties into the gulf.

      Interestingly, there's more of a stink from the fisherman about diverting excess water from the Mississippi into the lake to prevent the river from overflowing than there is from the runoff from the canals.

      Well, actually, the lake has been coming back, and it's more of a slow process of death/rebirth, while diverting freshwater + silt into the lake eventually kills lots of stuff fairly quickly. The lake is brackish.

      I got way off topic, sorrry.

    3. Re:Eat 'em by ralfg33k · · Score: 1
      Since nobody else has said it yet....
      Send in a bunch of Cajun tourists, and tell 'em:
      1. Koalas taste like chicken
      2. The bag limit is 5
      3. The season was over yesterday
    4. Re:Eat 'em by Bowling+Moses · · Score: 1

      Oh I know most people don't want to eat nutria. I live in Oregon and nutria were imported here too. They live in similar places, albeit with much less pollution. I think you can go out and pop one with a .22 or something anytime you want, but its very rare you here about them being eaten. Even my former roommate who's eaten a lot of weird, weird meat (cougar, beaver, muskrat, moose, caribou--went drinking one night and made him list everything. The fish list alone topped over 200 species. He's a freak.) didn't get around to trying one before he moved to California. But we also have a program for roadkills--you smack a deer or elk or something, you call highway patrol and they come out and pick it up. If salvageable it gets butchered and is fed to prisoners. That wouldn't work for nutria unless you managed to get a large number of them together and had a nutria stampede over a cliff or something equally improbable. I'd pay to see it, though.

    5. Re:Eat 'em by anubi · · Score: 1
      Interesting approach. I saw that one in use a few years ago at an apartment complex I resided in.

      The problem was a flock of ducks residing in the drainage ditch.. er. "lake", adjacent to us. One resident's children would coax the ducks to the apartment complex with bread crumbs, and from then on the sidewalks were one slippery mess. Now, we had a condrundrum...

      However, an entrerprising family had a really neat way of taking advantage of this. I noticed they would leave their patio gate open and ducks came in. Then the gate would silently close. Then they would run their barbeque a bit, then an assortment of duck parts would show up in the dumpster. And his kids seemed awful well-fed... Nobody said a word.

      But if there is resistance to human consumption, could this biomass be used as an ingredient in animal feed? I mean like there is nothing biologically wrong with it is there? As far as I see, its still a potent nutrient source of the highest order. The first thing that comes to mind is an ingredient for livestock and pet food if humans have an aversion to it. It sure seems like a shame to let all those assembled protein chains go to waste.

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    6. Re:Eat 'em by maja33 · · Score: 1

      In the Netherlands (and Belgium) muskrats are a plague. The Dutch goverment is employing professional rat-catchers to stop these animals undermining our dykes and river beddings.

      Promotions to 'eat this plague away' never caught on in the Netherlands but in Belgium (Flanders) you can eat 'water rabbit' in some restaurants.

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    7. Re:Eat 'em by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does anyone know if this is safe? I regard eating "urban" wildlife much the way that I regard eating fruit I find lying on the city street.

      Anyone?

    8. Re:Eat 'em by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I dunno.

      I am told the Vietnamese here in Southern
      California condsider dog a delicacy. Doesn't
      really strike me as being all that weird, as
      my family considered squirrels a delicacy.

      I see it mostly as a cultural difference over
      one's choice of food. I am not gonna get mad
      at anybody for eating dog, as long as they do
      not eat MY dog.

  13. Think of the costs associated... by Jorkapp · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The government proposes shooting 20,000 of them

    That would be a pretty damned expensive operation. Factoring in:

    =+=1000's of litres of gas for jeeps to track the koalas.
    =+=hiring people to shoot the koalas - unless its done by volunteers.
    =+=25000 rounds of ammo. Hunters may miss the koala, or hit it in a non-critical area (legs, arms). Where's an aimbot when you need one?
    =+=hauling of 20000 dead koalas. A few solid transport trucks should do the trick.

    Their best bet would be to sell off the dead koalas to make back some of the money. Koala Burgers anyone?

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    1. Re:Think of the costs associated... by neglige · · Score: 2, Funny

      hiring people to shoot the koalas

      Oh, ok, I guess I misread "The government proposes shooting 20,000 of them"... I thought it was pretty darn heroic of the government to sacrify themselves for the koalas.

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    2. Re:Think of the costs associated... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      "hauling of 20000 dead koalas"

      In Montana when they had to take care of the bodies of hundred of buffalo culled, we used dynamite. Sounds crazy, but it really speeds their decay (and in the buffalo's case they were potentially diseased so that was a prime concern).

    3. Re:Think of the costs associated... by pipingguy · · Score: 1


      hauling of 20000 dead koalas

      Nah, just leave the carcasses there and let the velociroos eat 'em.

    4. Re:Think of the costs associated... by gardyloo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I guarantee that if you put an advert in some hunting magazine, and make a lottery out of it, you'll get people wanting to travel there, and spend their own money to shoot these things. Yes, you'll get some whacko hunter types, but they'll not only spend their own money on airfare, gas, food, ammo, etc., but they'll bring in tourist dollars at the same time.

    5. Re:Think of the costs associated... by Glonoinha · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Didn't work so well on that whale though.
      Exploding Whale

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  14. Disappointing... by Coppit · · Score: 3, Funny

    I for one am really disappointed in the Slashdot editors. You'd think that if they were to tempt us with "Koalas Gone Wild" they would at least mention some of their spring break and Mardi Gras antics.

  15. I say send in the Marines. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They sure as hell won't try to shoot down our helicopters when we try to feed them.

  16. Let's just remember that Austrailia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Is essentially a penal colony, so these Aussies are like a bunch of Khans abandoned on a sandy planet by Kirk.

    Frankly, they should be thankful they don't have those ear-scorpions.

  17. Simple solution: Bolivian Tree Lizards by unassimilatible · · Score: 3, Funny
    The Bolivian Tree Lizards will eat the Koalas. After that, we simply unleash wave after wave of Chinese needle snakes. They'll wipe out the lizards. Then we've lined up a fabulous type of gorilla that thrives on snake meat. And that's the beautiful part. When wintertime rolls around, the gorillas simply freeze to death.

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    1. Re:Simple solution: Bolivian Tree Lizards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, everything you need to know in life can be learned from the Simpsons :-)

    2. Re:Simple solution: Bolivian Tree Lizards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is anyone else concerned by the fact that this was moderated informative?

  18. I say by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    eat the cuddly ones before they eat us

  19. OT Reply to two different sigs by pipingguy · · Score: 1

    Thomas' sig says:

    re: stupidity, why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?

    Because then the advice, "Do not look at laser with remaining eye" wouldn't be nearly as funny.

  20. Ob Koala Joke by pipingguy · · Score: 3, Funny


    There was a Koala bear that decided he was tired of the boring life in Australia, and decided he would go to NYC.

    On his first day there, he picked up a lady of the evening.

    When he was finished he stood up and went for the door. The hooker said, "excuse me but aren't you forgetting something?", and he replied, "I don't 'think so".

    The hooker grabs a dictionary and looks up the word 'hooker' and shows it to him. 'Hooker = A lady who has sex for money.'

    "Really", he said, and proceeded to look up 'Koala Bear' in the dictionary to show her:

    'Koala: An Australian marsupial that eats bushes, shoots, and leaves.'

  21. Re:Hypocrisy by RockModeNick · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Just read the posts, they are NOT native to the landmass where the culling is proposed, and should probably be wiped out in total from that area. Are you saying we should let them live there, strip the environment, and threaten native ecology, just as nonnative species and human encroachment does to them? That makes you sound pretty hypocritical.

  22. CNN for Aus news. Brilliant.... by quinkin · · Score: 1
    I would suggest something like this.

    Q

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  23. Reminds me of the Futurama with the Penguins by HowIsMyDriving? · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Animals are cute, till there are too many.

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  24. Better yet : Eat Them! by Glonoinha · · Score: 4, Funny

    Oh man, just start a rumor that Koala meat is a delicacy and a powerful aphrodisiac (like shark fin, powdered tiger penis, etc) in Japan and sell them for $1,300 a kilo in Tokyo. No better way to clean out an entire species than to get Nippon thinking that it is a delicacy or a powerful aphrodisiac.

    BTW - no joke. Look at the poor sharks, blubber whales, tigers, etc. The trick isn't getting them to start, it is getting them to stop.

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    1. Re:Better yet : Eat Them! by HonkyLips · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Koalas are the only animal that doesn't drink water. Their diet consists entirely of Eucalyptus leaves, and they will only eat leaves from a small area around which they were born (hence Koalas cannot be relocated, 'cause they starve). Their bodies have evolved to cope with a diet of toxic leaves by becoming slower. Their brains are shrinking so they consume less energy, and can devote more of their metabolism to coping with the Eucalyptus content of their diet. So I'm guessing that Koala meat, even if it isn't toxic, would taste disgusting. Eucalyptus flavoured meat that will probably kill you? No thanks. But then again... those Japanese are really Fugu...

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    2. Re:Better yet : Eat Them! by 0x0d0a · · Score: 1

      Koalas are the only animal that doesn't drink water.

      There are many animals, including a number of mammals, that do not drink water.

      Here's a quick link from Google on one of the examples.

    3. Re:Better yet : Eat Them! by HonkyLips · · Score: 1

      Well there you go! I was way off.... and my flatmate used to have a pair of Kangaroo mice as pets. BTW - the last line should read - ... are really INTO fugu...

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  25. Worthless response by j_w_d · · Score: 1

    Could it be that you negelected to read the article, or even to search for "koalas" and "ecological damage" on Google before responding? Australia is a continent. Kangaroo Island is just that - an island - and you don't even have to visit Australia to find that out.

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    1. Re:Worthless response by nacturation · · Score: 1

      Could it be you neglected to read my other response where I realized my mistake and posted three minutes later? :)

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  26. gone wild by kwoff · · Score: 0, Troll

    I bet if it was 30,000 girls gone wild, there wouldn't be any talk of shooting them.

  27. Re:Hypocrisy by rixstep · · Score: 1

    Read yourself. How do you think they got where they are today?

    They were minding their own business and sticking to their areas until the Shanghai businessmen came along.

    Not that any of this is news if you're at least 14 years old. It was all over AU Newsweek in a cover story at the time. It required only you be able to read.

    Sorry if that would have been too much for you.

    If my post suggests to you I am hypocritical, yours suggests you are ignorant.

  28. Re:Other extinctions by A55M0NKEY · · Score: 1

    Maybe that island has suffered Gum-Tree-Overgrowth followed by Koala Population boom followed by denudation followed by mass Koala Starvation followed by Gum-tree-overgrowth cycles since time immemorial. Perhaps without the mass die-off of Gum-Trees, other trees/plants will go extinct causing a whole other chain reaction that will screw up the island some other way.

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  29. True Hypocrisy..... by isotope23 · · Score: 1

    So by your argument, all Humans except those in africa should be culled....

    I hate the "not native" argument. Life grows, expands, adapts and dies out all the time.

    What if they had come across to the island on a log? Are they native because they made it on their own? Or do we simply look at the world as it was when we started recording history and decide that is how the world was, is and always should be?

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  30. Re:Hypocrisy by RockModeNick · · Score: 1

    Doesn't matter to this situation how the mainland ones became threatened, nor how they got where they are, only that they don't belong there now, are harmful now and it just seems stupid to let them destroy all the trees and themselves, or to expend vast resources to preserve them without culling, if thats even possible.

  31. Simple by RockModeNick · · Score: 1

    If you don't like the non-native arguement, stop treating your diseases, you're repelling organisms trying to spread to a new environment. Your body may die but oh well, they have the right to spread there regardless of the impact on the viability of that environment. Rediculousness aside, if they came did come across on logs and actually established a breeding population, I suppose they'd wipe out the trees, die off completley, and eventually seeds would sprout and the trees would replenish over 1000's of years. But I don't suppose kudzu could come across from Japan on a log, and I don't think anyone is happy to see what its doing now. Besides, if you want to leave it to survival of the fittest on a planetary level, we win, and anything living anywhere that we don't preserve to support ourselves(Which is much of our reason for conservation) is there on our good graces because we decided we like it that way.

  32. I've held one by garyebickford · · Score: 1

    I dunno, maybe it was naturalized or something, but back in 1985 I went to some kind of nature park or something in Australia, and was allowed to hold a koala. They do stink, for sure - a diet of eucalyptus is bound to cause a certain pungency in one's sweat! (Try eating a lot of garlic for a week - you will sweat garlic odor.) The koala was slow, very slow, but not particularly grouchy or irritable. It seemed to enjoy it.

    Of course, this was basically a touristy thing, not a natural environment by any means. So it's not much of an example. Maybe they give the koalas happy pills, or maybe these were raised 'in hand', and so were more amenable. By way of example, parrots and other birds that are hand-raised are much better with people than wild birds.

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  33. Disney Solution(was Re:Worthless article) by random+coward · · Score: 1

    There is no 'Disney' solution to the problem.

    Why? Don't you think that a Disney camera crew could herd them off a cliff and film it for a "Wild Australia" movie?