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X Prize Competition Gets New Sponsor, Amended Name

An anonymous reader writes "The X Prize Foundation today announced that entrepreneurs Anousheh Ansari and Amir Ansari have made a multi-million dollar contribution to the X Prize Foundation. As a result, the X Prize Competition is being renamed to the Ansari X Prize Competition." However, the X Prize rules stay the same: "The ANSARI X PRIZE will award $10 million to the first private organization to build and fly a ship that can carry three passengers 100 km (62 miles) into space, return safely to Earth and repeat the launch with the same ship within two weeks. Both flights must be completed by January 1st, 2005."

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  1. Wow by TheKidWho · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What a great way to buy one's name into the pages of history.

    1. Re:Wow by glean · · Score: 4, Funny

      That is exactly what I was thinking. They have no skills, (AFAIK), in this matter, take a competition that seemed of pure intent (unbranded), throw some money at it, and there it is - They are famous for nothing.
      You can get your name put on anything for the right price anymore.

      I just can't wait for the new Maxwell House Instant Shuttle from NASA.

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    2. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      the new Maxwell House Instant Shuttle

      Good to the last drop?

    3. Re:Wow by AJWM · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Famous for nothing? Hardly -- the prize itself has been a big incentive to the various candidate groups, and the money has to come from somewhere.

      That was the idea behind the prize in the first place, but no big donor stepped forward early -- hence the "X" prize because there was no name, yet, to attach to it. The intention was always to name it after whoever stepped up with the prize money.

      Read your aviation (and other technology) history, you'll see lots of progress due to (named) prizes offered by folks with no skills but how to make (or inherit) money.

      I just can't wait for the new Maxwell House Instant Shuttle from NASA.

      Me neither, although preferably not from NASA. And I think FedEx or American Airlines might be more likely logos.

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    4. Re:Wow by rhuntley12 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      More power to him. The people who fund projects are just as important as the people who do the projects IMO. Without the funding you get nowhere. My hats off to this guy.

    5. Re:Wow by DerekLyons · · Score: 3, Informative
      That was the idea behind the prize in the first place, but no big donor stepped forward early -- hence the "X" prize because there was no name, yet, to attach to it. The intention was always to name it after whoever stepped up with the prize money.
      No. It was named the 'X' prize after the series of ground breaking experimental aircraft built by the USAF and NASA. (Think X-1, X-15, etc...)
    6. Re:Wow by AJWM · · Score: 2, Informative

      That's why they chose the letter "X". At the time Pournelle and others (including myself) had been pushing for the resumption of the X program which had pretty much petered out. We got DC-X, and then the X-series started to revive (although not quite in the same spirit as the original program.)

      The prize program itself was very much modelled on named prizes like the Orteig Prize, and "X" worked out both for unknown and for the X Program. Both the named prize and X program memes were floating around in space activist circles (Space Frontier Foundation, the old L5 component of NSS, High Frontier, etc -- not the NSS and Planetary Society fanboys) in the late 80s/early 90s.

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    7. Re:Wow by KJACK98 · · Score: 5, Informative

      http://www.gmu.edu/alumni/spirit/00fall/ansari.htm l If you look at the donators background, I don't think you could find a better or more honorable person to have sponsored this event... This woman definitely deserves her name to be recorded with X Prize's History...

    8. Re:Wow by lindsayt · · Score: 4, Insightful

      As an historian, I would like to point out that Ferdinand and Isabella of Spain knew nothing of navigation, and in fact weren't even particularly interested in sailing per se, and yet they are inseparably linked with the final European discovery of the New World in 1492.

      Why, you ask? Because they bankrolled it and told everybody so. Of course they were shooting for a valuable spice trade and missed, but the point is that Columbus, an Italian with few resources, was not bankrolled out of altruism or interest in discovery, navigation or research, but out of a desire by Spanish royals to be rich and to stand out among European royalty as the greatest.

      Altruism has its place, but greed, egos and personal desire for eternal fame are what pay the bills. There's nothing new about that.

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    9. Re:Wow by Branc0 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually your link is wrong... you missed the final "l" in "html" :)

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  2. Is the ship more important... by rd4tech · · Score: 4, Funny

    The ANSARI X PRIZE will award $10 million to the first private organization to build and fly a ship that can carry three passengers 100 km (62 miles) into space, return safely to Earth and repeat the launch with the same ship within two weeks

    What about the passengers? Or they really do care only about the ship :)

    1. Re:Is the ship more important... by LupusUF · · Score: 4, Informative

      "5. The crew must return to the Earth's surface from both flights in good health as reasonably defined and judged by the X PRIZE Review Board. The flight vehicle must return from both flights substantially intact, as defined by and in the sole judgment of the X PRIZE Review Board, such that the vehicle is reusable."

      Rule number 5 :)

      I guess they don't put in on the press release since it points out that people might not come back in good health...but the full rules don't let dead people win.

  3. Money talks... by LostCluster · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sponsors get naming rights on just about everything these days, so it's not surprising the X-Prize wasn't immune... next thing you know somebody's going to buy the rights to put ads on baseball bases.

  4. Increase the prize money and extend the date by erick99 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    This has been an extremely exciting contest, yet, I don't think that any of the competitors are going to be able meet the requirements to claim the prize:

    The ANSARI X PRIZE will award $10 million to the first private organization to build and fly a ship that can carry three passengers 100 km (62 miles) into space, return safely to Earth and repeat the launch with the same ship within two weeks. Both flights must be completed by January 1st, 2005

    I hope they extend the date and I also hope the prize money goes up. I think the major entrants have all spent more than $10,000.000 as it is. Still, I don't think they are doing it primarily for the money anyway.

    Happy Trails!

    Erick

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    1. Re:Increase the prize money and extend the date by LostCluster · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I hope they extend the date and I also hope the prize money goes up. I think the major entrants have all spent more than $10,000.000 as it is. Still, I don't think they are doing it primarily for the money anyway.

      Most are doing it for the money, but just not soley the X-Prize money. Afterall, if a team ends up finishing late or beaten by another team finishing before them... they'll still have a working reusable orbital spacecraft. That's gotta be useful for something.

    2. Re:Increase the prize money and extend the date by Pidder · · Score: 4, Funny
      Afterall, if a team ends up finishing late or beaten by another team finishing before them... they'll still have a working reusable orbital spacecraft. That's gotta be useful for something.

      Yes definitely. I'm going to use mine to escape earth when the RIAA cracks down on me and travel to one of those rogue travel outposts they have in the movies... or something.

    3. Re:Increase the prize money and extend the date by Docrates · · Score: 4, Informative

      SUB-Orbital!. Getting into orbit requires an amount of speed and power that is waaaay beyond what the X-Prize entrants can currently achieve.

      I mean, sure, once they start running a profitable business taking people up to space, Zero G for seconds to a few minutes, and then down real fast, then they can start working on the exponentially harder orbital flights, which will be even more profitable with business applications as well as pure fun.

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    4. Re:Increase the prize money and extend the date by delibes · · Score: 2, Funny

      In space, no one can hear you stream... Sorry!

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  5. Expiration date by RotJ · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What happens after January 1, 2005? Do they get to keep all that sweet cash?

  6. Wow, interesting. by LordK3nn3th · · Score: 4, Funny

    I wonder how test flights would go. Someone tricking their little brother to "step in the SPACESHIP!"

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  7. What kind of passengers? by rms_nz · · Score: 5, Funny
    fly a ship that can carry three passengers

    I notice it doesn't say what kind of passengers - wonder if mice are acceptable?

    1. Re:What kind of passengers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes, it does.

      "The flight vehicle must be built with the capacity (weight and volume) to carry a minimum of 3 adults of height 188 cm (6 feet 2 inches) and weight 90 kg (198 pounds) each. Three people of this size or larger must be able to enter, occupy, and be fastened into the flight vehicle on Earth's surface prior to take-off, and equivalent ballast must be carried in-flight if the number of persons on-board during flight is less than 3 persons."

    2. Re:What kind of passengers? by LostCluster · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The rules are specific that it "can" carry three passengers, but doesn't have actually do. There only needs to be one live human on board.

      However, in order to qualify for the X-Prize money, the space ship must be built with enough space for three people, and must also carry enough ballast weight to make up for the fact that they have less than three people on board.

      You can read the complete rules for the details.

  8. Let the marketing drones call it what they want. by Scrameustache · · Score: 5, Insightful


    I'll just keep calling it "the X prize" until there is more than one.

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  10. Loopholes by AtariAmarok · · Score: 4, Funny

    As someone already pointed out, it says that the ship has to return safely, not the passengers.

    It does not specify if the passengers have to be alive or not. If you send up corpses, it is easier to keep them intact than it is to keep live passengers alive.

    Mice? Does not say you can't send them instead of humans.

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    1. Re:Loopholes by LostCluster · · Score: 4, Informative

      As someone already pointed out, it says that the ship has to return safely, not the passengers.
      Nope. Rule 3 says "Each flight must carry at least one person..."

      It does not specify if the passengers have to be alive or not. If you send up corpses, it is easier to keep them intact than it is to keep live passengers alive.
      It's even stricter than that. Rule 5 says "The crew must return to the Earth's surface from both flights in good health as reasonably defined and judged by the X PRIZE Review Board."

      Mice? Does not say you can't send them instead of humans.
      Nope, but Rule 3 says "person" and I don't think mice count as people.

      Try finding loopholes in the actual rules instead of the Slashdot summary of them.

    2. Re:Loopholes by nomadic · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's even stricter than that. Rule 5 says "The crew must return to the Earth's surface from both flights in good health as reasonably defined and judged by the X PRIZE Review Board."

      That's a good way to avoid paying.

      Successful Cosmonaut: Hi, I successfully piloted to outer space and back. I'm here for my 10 million.

      X Prize Review Board Member: Uhh...sorry, you have to be in good health.

      Cosmonaut: What? I'm in perfect health. The mission went off without a hitch.

      Board Member: No, you definitely look a little peaked. And let me feel your forehead...Ah, yes, you're burning up.

      Cosmonaut: No, I'm fine, I've never felt better.

      Board Member: You're at death's door. No prize for you.

    3. Re:Loopholes by mcrbids · · Score: 3, Funny
      That's a good way to avoid paying.

      Successful Cosmonaut: Hi, I successfully piloted to outer space and back. I'm here for my 10 million.

      X Prize Review Board Member: Uhh...sorry, you have to be in good health.

      Cosmonaut: What? I'm in perfect health. The mission went off without a hitch.

      Board Member: No, you definitely look a little peaked. And let me feel your forehead...Ah, yes, you're burning up.

      Cosmonaut: No, I'm fine, I've never felt better.

      Board Member: You're at death's door. No prize for you.


      I thought of this. Couldn't help it. (ducks, prepares for loss of karma)
      Bring out your dead!
      CUSTOMER: Here's one.
      CART MASTER: Ninepence.
      DEAD PERSON: I'm not dead!
      CART MASTER: What?
      CUSTOMER: Nothing. Here's your ninepence.
      DEAD PERSON: I'm not dead!
      CART MASTER: 'Ere. He says he's not dead!
      CUSTOMER: Yes, he is.
      DEAD PERSON: I'm not!
      CART MASTER: He isn't?
      CUSTOMER: Well, he will be soon. He's very ill.
      DEAD PERSON: I'm getting better!
      CUSTOMER: No, you're not. You'll be stone dead in a moment.
      CART MASTER: Oh, I can't take him like that. It's against regulations.
      DEAD PERSON: I don't want to go on the cart!
      CUSTOMER: Oh, don't be such a baby.
      CART MASTER: I can't take him.
      DEAD PERSON: I feel fine!
      CUSTOMER: Well, do us a favour.
      CART MASTER: I can't.
      CUSTOMER: Well, can you hang around a couple of minutes? He won't be long.
      CART MASTER: No, I've got to go to the Robinsons'. They've lost nine today.
      CUSTOMER: Well, when's your next round?
      CART MASTER: Thursday.
      DEAD PERSON: I think I'll go for a walk.
      CUSTOMER: You're not fooling anyone, you know. Look. Isn't there something you can do?
      DEAD PERSON: [singing]
      I feel happy. I feel happy.
      [whop]
      CUSTOMER: Ah, thanks very much.
      CART MASTER: Not at all. See you on Thursday.
      CUSTOMER: Right. All right.
      [howl]
      [clop clop clop]
      Who's that, then?
      CART MASTER: I dunno. Must be a king.
      CUSTOMER: Why?
      CART MASTER: He hasn't got shit all over him.
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  11. As much as I hate corporate sponsorship by l0ungeb0y · · Score: 2, Informative

    At least those who do it for "publicities" sake, you can't argue that this investment is a boon to the cause.

    And to risk venturing off-topic for a second,
    I think Ansari X prize should consider expanding there efforts at not just the tech to get us there, but to provide a prize for the think tank that can invent a corporate (manufacturing?) incentive to go there. Basically, show practical applications in space and provide due dilligence.
    Or maybe more on the mark... provide a multimilllion dollar reward for the company that can first create an operable facility in space.

    Yeah... wishfull thinking, but the more efforts put towards extra-terrastial expansion the better I say.

    1. Re:As much as I hate corporate sponsorship by Beolach · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Speaking of doing it for publicities sake, I wonder if it was a requiremoent for the donation for the Foundation to change name...

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  12. Mods - get the whole joke? by Ieshan · · Score: 5, Informative

    This was an obvious joke, but I'm not sure if moderators really get it-

    Ads really are going on baseball bases. Spiderman 2 has bought the rights to put some logos on baseball bases in the next few weeks.

    Next thing you know, corporate sponsors will be buying insightful or funny slashdot posts.

    THIS POST BROUGHT TO YOU BY MCDONALDS. WE'RE LOVIN' IT.

  13. This just in... by phillymjs · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...the competition is now known as "Pepsi Presents the Ansari X Prize Competition"

    (Why, yes, this was an obligatory Simpsons reference, thank you for noticing!)

    ~Philly

  14. Re:Following the money by Attaturk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Call my cynical, but Iranians wanting in on rockets capable of doubling as ICBMs worry me.

    I won't call you cynical. But I will call you an ignorant, paranoid, xenophobic and war-mongering fool - no offense. ;-)

    Not everyone in the middle east would like to 'nuke' America - not yet anyway. Give it time, and consistency of US foreign policy and maybe... but even then you'd have to count on finding some fanatical middle eastern people with millions of dollars to spend on something insanely overt, huge risk and incredibly open to public and global scrutiny. And anyway, everyone knows the best delivery system for a nuclear warhead these days is a suitcase.

  15. Need investors for my idea by Wasteofspace · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ok, i think this can be done fairly cheaply I need:- A couple of guys to dig a really big hole. A Really Big flame proof tennis ball to hold the crew. 2 really strong trees (steel poles will suffice) 1 Big rubberband. A guy with good hand eye coordination and a big catchers mitt. Waste

  16. propulsion methods by Neuropol · · Score: 2, Interesting

    shouldn't the focus be on propulsion methods first. is the traditional rocket engine efficent enough to make such frequent trips. ion drive is looking to be a promising concept

    1. Re:propulsion methods by phoenix.bam! · · Score: 4, Informative

      This is incorrect. Ion Propulsion is only good for micro-gravity / zero-gravity travel. As it only adds small amounts of energy to the craft built up over a long period of time to reach fast speeds. This method of propulsion is impossible to use (as it is currently implemented) for flights from the surface of the earth into outer-space.

  17. Cats by antic · · Score: 2, Funny

    Cats might be able to survive the fall to Earth? Heh. I'll do some tests and get back to you.*

    *JK! I love my cat. He could probably leap up into space. I'm not going to do any tests.

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  18. What I want to know... by TechnoFreek · · Score: 5, Interesting

    is can NASA take a rocket up 100 km with 3 people, take it down, and put it back up again within 2 weeks?

    1. Re:What I want to know... by brucehoult · · Score: 2

      is can NASA take a rocket up 100 km with 3 people, take it down, and put it back up again within 2 weeks?

      No they can't. NASA can't do it today, and they never have done it (or been able to) in the past. And no one else has ever done it either.

      The closest is the X15 flights in the 1960's, some of which went up 100 km, but with only one person instead of three. I don't know whether the X15 ever went 100 km up twice in two weeks, but they probably could have done that (with one person) if they wanted to.

    2. Re:What I want to know... by RedWizzard · · Score: 2, Informative
      You're forgetting about a little project called "Apollo".
      You're forgetting about the two week stipulation. The Apollo mission launch dates:
      1. Apollo 7: October 11, 1968
      2. Apollo 8: December 21, 1968
      3. Apollo 9: March 3, 1969
      4. Apollo 10: May 18, 1969
      5. Apollo 11: July 16, 1969
      6. Apollo 12: November 14, 1969
      7. Apollo 13: April 11, 1970
      8. Apollo 14: January 31, 1971
      9. Apollo 15: July 26, 1971
      10. Apollo 16: April 16, 1972
      11. Apollo 17: December 7, 1972
      The Apollo program only once managed two launches of different vehicles in two months, let alone two launches of the same vehicle in two weeks. Still they did a bit more than a 100km up and down so we can't complain.
    3. Re:What I want to know... by Coryoth · · Score: 2, Interesting

      No, NASA can't do that, not within 2 weeks.

      It gets worse when you note the extra rule that only 10% of the non fuel mass of the craft can be replaced between flights. That pretty much counts out all the Apollo program stuff, even if they had managed a launch in 2 weeks. Also, while I'm not clear on the exact numbers, I suspect those rockets used to launch the space shuttle account for more than 10% of the non fuel mass.

      Of course the Shuttle gets to LEO, which is a much larger step than 100km up, but if you cna get 100km up easily and efficiently, it may well be possible to extend the capabilities and slowly stretch toward LEO.

      Jedidiah.

  19. Anousheh Ansari - Iranian Woman! by Pavan_Gupta · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Here's a Biograpy from a company she started:
    Anousheh Ansari
    Founder and CEO
    telecom technologies, inc. (tti)

    Anousheh Ansari is president, founder, and CEO of telecom technologies, inc. (tti), a supplier of softswitch based solutions for network and service providers offering end-to-end solutions for next generation, carrier-grade multi-service networks. Prior to founding tti, Ansari provided consulting services to the major telecommunications service providers and vendors in the areas of Frame Relay and ATM switch testing and evaluation.

    Early in her career, Ansari held positions with MCI Telecommunications Corporation and Communication Satellite Corporation (COMSAT) in various engineering capacities. She worked on architectural design for SS7 and ISDN networks.

    Ansari was recognized by Working Woman magazine as the winner of the 2000 National Entrepreneurial Excellence award, and was chosen as the winner of the 1999 Ernst and Young Entrepreneur of the Year, Southwest Region, for the Technology and Communications category. She has authored numerous technical papers and has two patents for her work on Automated Operator Services and Wireless Service Node. She was a U.S. delegate at ITU SG VII, SG XI and SG XVII, and a representative at American National Standard Institute T1S1 and T1X1 Technical Subcommittees.

    Ansari holds a Master of Science Degree in Electrical Engineering from George Washington University and a Bachelor of Science Degree in Electrical Engineering and Computer Science from George Mason University. She is also a member of Eta Kappa Nu, IEEE and NSPE.

    Success
    2000 National Entrepreneurial Excellence Award winner: Anousheh Ansari, CEO and chair of Telecom Technologies on the cover of Working Magazine (May 2000). "Anousheh Ansari once dreamed of being an astronaut while growing up in her native Tehran, Iran. Today the 33-year-old Ansari is turning upstart Telecom Technologies Inc into a force in the telecommunications industry."

    1. Re:Anousheh Ansari - Iranian Woman! by FleaPlus · · Score: 2, Informative

      Here's a picture of her with Scaled Composites' SpaceShipOne.

  20. Going to space to escape the RIAA ... by bezuwork's+friend · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I'm going to use mine to escape earth when the RIAA cracks down on me ...

    Hey! In space, copyright laws don't apply (yet). You can set up a rogue state for file traders.

    History is bound to repeat itself. Apparently, many of the Europeans who came to the US way back when did so to escape opressive taxes. Of course, others did it for wealth or land. Who knows, if cheap affordable spaceflight becomes a reality, the chance to create a new state from scratch will be upon us.

    However, the *IAA are probably ahead of you, or will do their best to be. I had Entertainment Law this semester (had the final today) - we learned that one of the record company executives saw a shot of astronauts in space with music playing. Apparently it was MCI. Well, believe it or not, while artist contracts previously required assignment of all rights for the whole Earth, now they say for the Universe. (Can't have artists suing and reclaiming that lucrative interplanetary market!)

  21. Fine then. by raehl · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm proud to announce the Raehl X Prize. First person to drink a gallon of milk in an hour gets 10 bucks.

  22. Re:What happend to the insurance policy? by raehl · · Score: 2, Funny

    The organizational imperative is to survive and stay viable.

    No, that's the reproductive imparitive. The organizational imparative is to pay large retention bouses when you go bankrupt.

  23. The first team to make it gets the Ansari prize by Zabu · · Score: 4, Funny

    The first to miss gets the Darwin awards.

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  24. Re:Let the marketing drones call it what they want by Geoffreyerffoeg · · Score: 4, Funny

    Money for anyone who can once and for all get my X Window configuration files working.

    There, now there's another X prize.

  25. Re:Where'd the rest of the money go? by Edmund+Blackadder · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Actually they did not really have the money when they announced the prize. They actually announced the prize, hoping they could gather the money from donations before anyone could claim the prize. It seems a questionable thing to do, but looks like they will get away with it.

  26. Roddenberry's "on board" by potus98 · · Score: 2, Funny

    "RODDENBERRY JOINS X PRIZE ADVISORY COMMITTEE"

    I see where this is heading: Gene's son joins the team so he can get close to the launch site. He climbs some scafolding just as that Alaskan sheriff is about to board the ship (Contact). Instead of blowing everything up, Gene Jr. jumps onto said Sheriff with a big bear hug and ends up on board the ship (ST:IV:TVH). They slingshot around the Sun (ibid) where they go back to October of 1955 (BTTF). They steal Doc's DeLorean, drive into the future at 88 mph to San Francisco's UFP HQ. Since money is no longer an issue, they easily win an antique British phone box off of eBay, make some slight mods, and time/space warp back to 2004 (Dr.W)

    Unfortunately, at the end of this spectacular journey, Gene Jr. was mistakenly wearing a red shirt. We all know what happens to the red shirts. :-(

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  27. Re:Following the money by MikeJ9919 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Umm...he didn't say that everyone in the Middle East wanted to nuke America. He specifically mentioned Iranians. With all due respect to the Ansaris and the vast majority of the Iranian people, it would raise my suspicions, too. The simple fact is that despite the current "moderate" executive branch of the Iranian government, the religious extremists actually hold all the power. They've demonstrated this by vetoing attempts at reform by the President and, most recently, disqualifying a vast portion of the legislature from reelection for ambiguous "religious" reasons. These hard-liners would like nothing better than to see more planes flown into American buildings. Absolutely the only thing stopping them is fear of retribution ala Afghanistan or Iraq.

  28. Um, not a regular /. denizen... by Goonie · · Score: 3, Interesting
    but the well-known Id Software programmer John Carmack has posted on /. from time to time about his X Prize team, Armadillo Aerospace.

    As far as the organisers are concerned, I can't recall them ever posting here, but the plan after the X Prize is won by somebody (probably Rutan, at this stage) is the X Prize Cup, an annual festival/competition where teams will compete to launch their craft as high and as fast as they can.

    If they are successful with that competition, I imagine that sooner or later they will propose a private orbital shot.

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  30. Re:especially the Atheist faith by LordK3nn3th · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And not believing in bigfoot is a position based on faith, I'm sure. :/

    (Most) Atheists don't maintain there can't be a god. They maintain that, due to the nature of the claim and lacking of evidence, one most likely does not exist.

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  31. Can this even be done?? by wildchild07770 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The deadline is 7 months away and we have yet to see an actual unmanned test launch. To think that any of these groups could get a ship into space and back with people onboard within that time frame is hard to believe. I'm all for them getting there, but it seems this deadline is almost useless it inspired a lot of research and competition but how much of this is going to fizzle when no one can meet the goal set (while maintaining any margin of safety). It'd be nice to be the first private group into space, but how would you like to be remembered as the first private group to kill three guys on their way to space?

    1. Re:Can this even be done?? by rootus-rootus · · Score: 3, Informative

      It is being done.... See the scaled composite web site for info on their *Manned* test flights.

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    2. Re:Can this even be done?? by tsotha · · Score: 2, Informative
      The deadline is 7 months away and we have yet to see an actual unmanned test launch.

      Not true. Check out these tests . They have a 40 second manned burn under their belts and could probably win the X-prize tomorrow if the paperwork were squared away.

    3. Re:Can this even be done?? by foolish · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not only has Scaled made several shots, but currently there's a lot of speculation that the Scaled folks are aiming for the culmination of the second flight on either July 17th or the 20th (both rather significant rocketry dates IIRC).

      Armadillo has done hover tests as well. The UK group (starchaser) has done some unmanned testing of their rocket infrastructure as well. I know the DaVinci team is also planning at least one launch attempt this summer/early fall as well.

      Too bad about Armadillo Aerospace, unless the jet vanes really work well, it doesn't sound like they'll be launching this year. Still, their vehicle programme might go farther for the orbital race.

      you might try checking the Scaled, Armadillo Aerospace, DaVinci team, Starchaser sites. The X-prize site is also useful.

      XCor looks like they're going to get there, but they are the ready-steady course and are designing their way instead of for XPrize compliance.

  32. Wow. I'm disappointed! by McCrapDeluxe · · Score: 4, Funny

    First the Pulitzer Prize and the Nobel Prize whore themselves out, and now the X-Prize.

  33. Re:Following the money by kamapuaa · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Several objections to your post:

    The Ansaris are U.S. residents (citizens too, I would guess - the article doesn't say, but as they both are well-established American businesspeople, I find it likely). Saying that their Muslim-nation background makes them automatically suspect is a witch-hunt.

    The basic science of missiles is understood - the science of the X-Prize is on developing a re-usable vehicle that can make multiple trips within a couple of weeks. I'm not an expert, but I'd be surprised if X-Prize technology ends up getting used in ICBM's.

    Sponsoring the X-Prize doesn't mean the Ansaris have exclusive access to its aerodynamic secrets.

    The most popular movie in Iran right now is a satire of religious extremists. Of course they do hold most of the political power, but this isn't a heirarchal society where every person of Persian background (including US citizens) is trying to build a bomb for the religious right.

    "Absolutely the only thing stopping them is fear of retribution ala Afghanistan or Iraq"??? I'd love to hear you back that up. It seems to me, that a determined state could make an anonymous terrorist attack of some kind. Anyway, the war on Iraq isn't retribution for anything; even Bush doesn't claim that, I don't know why you would. The war on Afghanistan may be retribution at heart, but the Taliban (or the people of Afghanistan) didn't attack the US.

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  34. Joint Strike Fighter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Just to put this into perspective, the expected financial reward for the company that wins the Joint Strike Fighter contract is $200 billion.

  35. Passengers by Cruciform · · Score: 2

    Are they having any trouble finding people to ride the prototypes into space?

    I always liked that scene in Dr. Strangelove when Slim Pickins rode the nuclear bomb into oblivion...

    Seriously though, I wonder what the ratio of volunteers to projects might be.

  36. Re:X-Prize to the Moon... by DerekLyons · · Score: 3, Informative
    Just out of morbid curiosity, are there any /.ers here who are involved with the X-Prize in any way? If so, do any of these guys have any ideas on what would be next for the X-Prize?
    The best place on the 'net to keep track of these things is the sci.space.* heirachy on Usenet. Several X-prize contenders post there from time to time (Including Burt Rutan and John Carmak) as well as many folks in the CATS movement (notably Jeff Greason of XCor) and many, many folks knowledgeable about space related things in general.

    (Disclaimer: Like any Usenet group, we have our share of trolls, but most of them are easily identified and kill filed. In general the s.s.* groups have an extremely low tolerance for fools, idiots, and those unwilling to learn. It's a tough place to get started in, but well worth it if you are truly interested in the topic.)

  37. Re:Yes, they'll be visible by The+Ultimate+Fartkno · · Score: 2, Funny


    e) Rain delays = Kirsten Dunst runs onfield in that pink shirt = best. ratings. EVAR!

  38. Re:Following the money by The+Wannabe+King · · Score: 2, Funny
    The basic science of missiles is understood - the science of the X-Prize is on developing a re-usable vehicle that can make multiple trips within a couple of weeks. I'm not an expert, but I'd be surprised if X-Prize technology ends up getting used in ICBM's.

    The reuse of ICBM's could enable us to wage global nuclear war in a more environmental friendly and economical way. Oh, wait...

  39. No, not Rutan by XNormal · · Score: 2, Informative

    There are no posts of sci.space.* by Burt Rutan in recent years (or anyone else of scaled composites ). He is pretty tight-lipped, especially when compared to Carmack.

    You will find, however, many informative posts by the one and only Henry Spencer, author of The Ten Commandments for C Programmers and possibly the most knowledgeable person in the world about the history of the U.S. space program.

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