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SCO Caught Copying

linuxwrangler writes "While accusing everyone else of copying "their" code, SCO has meanwhile been caught copying documentation. In fact they copied several chapters of the Book of Webmin directly into their online documentation. While the book is available online, it is not licensed for redistribution. Details are sparse but it appears that SCO had to pay the publisher for using the material."

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  1. No one was expecting that. by An-Unnecessarily-Lon · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yea right. I would expect that if you are going to try to destroy companies and extort money as such SCO has you would be cleaner than St. Peter. But nothing surprises me.

  2. Re:Uh by Bronster · · Score: 4, Funny

    So if they paid the publisher for the documentation, why is this even a story?

    Because the were stealing, and like... not respecting the inviolable rights of someone else to not have their stuff pinched. They're terrorists like Linux Torvols.

  3. Re:Uh by basil+montreal · · Score: 3, Funny

    They didn't pay for it until someone noticed. Very underhanded.

  4. Hypocrits? by elwell642 · · Score: 4, Funny

    While accusing everyone else of copying "their" code, SCO has meanwhile been caught copying documentation

    Hypocrits? ONLINE? My gosh... what is this world coming to?

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    <insert witty linux comment here>

  5. only a matter of time by mhx · · Score: 1, Funny

    It's just a matter of time before SCO gets what's coming their way.

  6. Re:Oi, reminds me... by bmongar · · Score: 4, Funny

    No Baystar has Darls toung.

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    As x approaches total apathy I couldn't care less.
  7. SCO Lied/Stole.... by axis-techno-geek · · Score: 4, Funny
    I'm sure that this comes as no shock to the /. crowd

    Bad Darl, bad, go to your office with no stock options...

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    This is not the sig line you are looking for... -- Old Jedi Sig Line Trick
  8. gotta say it by pmiller396 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I know I speak for many on /. when I say:

    BWAAAAA HAAAAA HAAAA HAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

    thanks, I feel better now.

    1. Re:gotta say it by AceCaseOR · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, no, no, it goes "Haaa haaa haaa"

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    2. Re:gotta say it by operagost · · Score: 3, Funny
      [nelson]
      Haaah hah!

      Stop COPYING yourself! Stop COPYING yourself!
      [/nelson]

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      Gamingmuseum.com: Give your 3D accelerator a rest.
  9. sue SCO by Coneasfast · · Score: 5, Funny

    i'm going issue SCO an invoice for $699.

    i know what you're thinking. well it doesn't matter that i don't hold the copyright, isn't that right SCO?

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    Marge, get me your address book, 4 beers, and my conversation hat.
  10. Re:Ahh, too easy... by wjames · · Score: 2, Funny

    Well at least SCO will attempt to make there money back by finding a Red Hat Linux disc in the publishers IT Room and sue for millions! :rollseyes:

  11. SCO Response by Hellkitten · · Score: 5, Funny

    Copyrighs on books published on the web is unconstitutional

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    1. Re:SCO Response by S.O.B. · · Score: 2, Funny

      ...and a terrorist plot.

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      Some of what I say is fact, some is conjecture, the rest I'm just blowing out my ass...you guess.
  12. RTFA? by Zoko+Siman · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think it is saying that was their punishment.

    I almost forgot for a sec that this is slashdot and that no one reads the articles.

  13. Obligatory Simpsons Quote by Skye16 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ha ha!

    1. Re:Obligatory Simpsons Quote by Wizard+of+OS · · Score: 2, Funny

      more like:

      D'Oh!

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      If code was hard to write, it should be hard to read
  14. Re:Oi, reminds me... by Bingo+Foo · · Score: 5, Funny

    I like the one year graph better. It looks like Ayers Rock.

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    taken! (by Davidleeroth) Thanks Bingo Foo!
  15. ownership by bobthemuse · · Score: 5, Funny

    Does this mean that the authors of the Book of Webmin now own the SCO documentation? Cool!

    1. Re:ownership by 3dr · · Score: 5, Funny

      Heh, either that or SCO will claim ownership of the Book of Webmin. You can hear them now:

      SCO: There are 10,000 pages copied from our materials
      FOSS Crowd: But the book is only 400 pages?
      SCO: Nevermind, there are still 10,000 pages taken.
      FC: OK, which pages, exactly, and what content?
      SCO: Look on the title pages and subsequent pages. The words "Copyright" and "Table of Contents" appear exactly as in our materials. Later on appears "Index". Page numbers also have a similar ordering algorithm.
      FC: Uhhhh
      SCO: This is uncontestable fact and proof!!!!11!!
      SCO: Oh, and, All Your Base Are Belong To Us.

  16. It's okay. by DrEldarion · · Score: 4, Funny

    I hear SCO can license the Book of Webmin for the low, low price of $699 per document they want to use it in...

  17. Re:Oi, reminds me... by BrynM · · Score: 5, Funny
    I like the one year graph better. It looks like Ayers Rock.
    I was just looking at the 1 year too. It's not good for a stock to follow a bell curve, is it? Darl, this is the fan. It's what your sh*t is about to land on. Cover your eyes. It may splatter back messily. Don't worry. Everyone else knew it was going to happen so they took cover. You're the only one left standing next to the fan.
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  18. Re:Oi, reminds me... by Atzanteol · · Score: 5, Funny

    Baystar is gripping *somthing* of Darl's, though I'm not sure it's his tongue...

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    "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge"

    - Charles Darwin
  19. this reminds me of a verse from the bible by beatnitup · · Score: 4, Funny

    "let he who is without sin cast the first lawsuit"

    1. Re:this reminds me of a verse from the bible by Dog+and+Pony · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's the US edition, right?

  20. Re:Sheesh by justforaday · · Score: 3, Funny

    SCO as an organization didn't do this. One lazy person or group which was supposed to write documentation decided not to write their own.

    So, this is what happens when lawyers write the documentation then? Cos we all know that there are only lawyers working at SCO these days...

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  21. Re:Irony by stratjakt · · Score: 5, Funny

    How could be a linux ripoff if they own linux?

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    I don't need no instructions to know how to rock!!!!
  22. Re:Sheesh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
    Just so that I don't come off sounding rediculous

    Sorry, you're too late.

  23. Re:Just like a politician by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny


    I thought the first signs were zest for life and lack of sexual frustration.

  24. New Software announcement from SCUM by Anonym0us+Cow+Herd · · Score: 5, Funny

    SCUM announced today the latest version of their Lawsuit Generator Wizard package. The updated version now has a web enabled user interface. "Using our patented lawsuit generator, companies can quickly and efficiently file numerous complaints without leaving their computer." said Blame Snowell. "People can now generate lawsuits from anywhere that has Internet access", said Darn McNugget, "even from non extradition treaty countries."

    The new version has a simpler user interface than previous versions. The user answers a series of simple questions. Many questions are multiple choice.

    For instance: "Do you want to sue a [x] current or [_] former [x] customer or [_] business partner? Do you have an existing contract to use against them?

    You can specify a defendant, or the software can randomly assign a defendant. Administrivia such as filing the documents with the court, sending copies to the defendant's lawyers, and generating the certificate of service is handled automatically. The Professional Edition will generate motions and memorandums in support of those motions.

    New modules in the updated package include the Affirmative Defense generator which automatically answers each of the defendant's counterclaims. For particularly unfavorable counterclaims, a motion to dismiss is automatically generated. In the Professional Edition, a new Case Law History module has been added. This module can find marginally relevant case law and then selectively quote favorable sounding portions using the selective quoting tool.

    Industry rumors have been circulating that a new add on module is in the works and was expected to be released last quarter. Lack of this module has apparently been a significant setback to the company. Company officials have been unusually quiet about this. Sources suggest that the rumored package is a Lie Management add on, which can also run stand alone. It has been rumored that the core engine was licensed from Microshaft. Company officials declined to comment.

    Anonymous sources told us on condition of remaining unprosecuted, that the Lie Management module can manage competing bundles of lies that are told to multiple parties. The lie consistency checker helps keep stories straight, preventing a runaway lie cascade of escalating magnitude. A bit of truth, from a large predefined gallery, can be mixed in to give documents a professional sense of credibility.

    "This is a perfect example of how corporations can benefit from proprietary software over open source software" said analyst Lorra DiDdlings.

    Also updated is the Case Scheduling module which generates motions to unnecessarily delay the case. If multiple cases are concurrently in progress, the software is now able to coordinate the motions into a deadlock such that each case depends upon the outcome of the other cases.

    Company officials confirmed the development of a companion product, the SEC Filing wizard. This separate package will fully integrate with the Lawsuit Ganerator if both are installed together. Pricing and the expected release date were not available.

    Analyst Robber Pretenderle said "I give SCUM a 99% chance of winning their lawsuits based on their statements alone." The company's stock rose quickly on the news. (symbol: SCUM)

    About SCUM.

    SCUM, the owner of all software operating systems, is the leading provider of business lawsuits worldwide. Suing and threatening customers and business partners in over 86 countries, SCUM provides a full range of litigation fiascos. The recognized leader worldwide in providing lawsuit protection licenses, SCUM has been in business for over 25 years.

    SCUM, Lie, and Lawsuit are trademarks of The SCUM Grope. All other trademarks are property of their respective owners.

    This story contains forward looking statements. Investors are advised that some forward looking statements may look further out than the expected life of the company.

    Any similarity to the truth is unintentional and purely coincidental.

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  25. Re:Oi, reminds me... by AllUsernamesAreGone · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now if we can just think of some way to persuade him to replace the flying excrement with his face in said fan interaction...

  26. Perfect! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Details are sparse..."

    This should prefix ALL slashdot stories.

    1. Re:Perfect! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      "Details are sparse..."
      This should prefix ALL slashdot stories.


      Yes, but this would give everyone a good reason NOT to RTFA...

      Wait a minute...no one R'sTFA anyway.

  27. Stated 15 minutes before this article was posted: by archnerd · · Score: 5, Funny

    14:24 < chmeee> I'll say this about SCO: they have great documentation

  28. Ash Sez: by Moses_Gunn · · Score: 5, Funny

    Darl, it looks like you're in control of two things right now: Jack and Shit. And Jack just left town...

  29. Re:Oi, reminds me... by tomstdenis · · Score: 2, Funny

    I like this one better. ;-)

    Tom

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  30. Help on Copyright Law for Poor SCOX by rjamestaylor · · Score: 5, Funny
    Perhaps SCOX, so bedraggaled with its failing business and launghingstock license offerings hasn't had the resources necessary to devote a fine eye towards matters of intellectual propert laws such as copyrights. Fortunately, there is an expert on IP Law who has published his salient thoughts on this subject to benefit the world. Perhaps we could kindly point SCOX to this great resource to assist them in this confusing arena of proper attribution and distribution with prior permission. Below is an excerpt:
    Intellectual Property Rights Explained

    If [SCO] wants to develop products for enterprise corporations, it must respect and follow the rule of law. These rules include contracts, copyrights and other intellectual property laws. For several months SCO has been involved in a contentious legal case that we filed against IBM. What are the underlying intellectual property principles that have put SCO in a strong position in this hotly debated legal case? I'd summarize them in this way:

    1. "Fair use" applies to educational, public service and related applications and does not justify commercial misappropriation. Books and Internet sites intended and authorized for the purpose of teaching and other non-commercial use cannot be copied for commercial use. ...

    2. Copyright attributions protect ownership and attribution rights--they cannot simply be changed or stripped away. This is how copyright owners maintain control of their legal rights and prevent unauthorized transfer of ownership. ...

    3. In copyright law, ownership cannot be transferred without express, written authority of a copyright holder....

    4. Transfer of copyright ownership without express written authority of all proper parties is null and void.

    5. Use of derivative rights in copyrighted material is defined by the scope of a license grant. An authorized derivative work may not be used beyond the scope of a license grant. License grants regarding derivative works vary from license to license--some are broad and some are narrow. In other words, the license itself defines the scope of permissive use, and licensees agree to be bound by that definition. ...

    Oops, almost forgot to give attribution to the source! Ha, ha, almost slipped, and when trying to give examples of following copyright laws -- that would have been too ironic, don't you think? Anyway, here's the source for the above prescient insight into IP Laws for poor old SCO:
    Darl McBride, CEO, The SCO Group, http://darlmcbride.com
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    -- @rjamestaylor on Ello
  31. Re:Oi, reminds me... by deadmongrel · · Score: 2, Funny

    Baystar is gripping *somthing* of Darl's, though I'm not sure it's his tongue...
    Can't be true. He doesn't have it.

  32. Re:So what you're saying is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Yes, cut it out. She told me last night that she's getting suspicious.

  33. Re:Sheesh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I doubt that evil was involved here...

    but...but...but it's SCO!!!

  34. a popular saying in brasil... by C0vardeAn0nim0 · · Score: 4, Funny

    "pimenta no cu do outros é refresco" (red peper in somebody else's arse is refreshment)

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    What ? Me, worry ?
  35. Re:Ahhhhh hahahahahahaha by marika · · Score: 2, Funny

    The real important thing is that the stocks are going down, the money flies away and that sco closes down and we never hear about them ever. I think I dream of that very often...

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    This is totally insecure, but very convenient.
  36. Re:Oi, reminds me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Microsoft has issued a cease-and-desist letter for infringing on its copyright to evil.

  37. Re:Credibility by I8TheWorm · · Score: 2, Funny

    What was that phrase again "people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones"?

    No, no, no, it's "People in grass houses shouldn't stow thrones."

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    Saying Android is a family of phones is akin to saying Linux is a family of PCs.
  38. Re:End of court case. by triskaidekaphile · · Score: 2, Funny

    Oh? What about law? Precedents? Politics? Personal beliefs?

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  39. Re:Sheesh by dazed-n-confused · · Score: 2, Funny

    Two things. One is described as "long-established," the other "still in prototype". Which do you think came first???

    (American schools... I dunno...)

  40. Do as they did... by Amorpheus_MMS · · Score: 4, Funny

    Webmin should have sued SCO without mentioning any details that would allow correcting the problem. :>

  41. Re:Oi, reminds me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I think you're mistaken my fellow Australian friend,
    It's GNU/Ayers Rock!

    mod sibling down -1,necrophiliac

  42. Re:Uh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think he means notorious warez mastermind Linux The Vole. He didn't actually *write* Windows, he just stole it and incorporated it into his own operating system, SuxOS

  43. Re:Uh by ninejaguar · · Score: 3, Funny
    I've got nothing against Linux... it's just its fan club I can't stand.

    I've got nothing against Microsoft Users... it's just their Overlord I can't stand.

    = 9J =

  44. Re:Oi, reminds me... by bendelo · · Score: 5, Funny

    I like the one year graph better. It looks like Ayers Rock.

    It looks a perfect fit

  45. Re:Uh by ninejaguar · · Score: 1, Funny
    I reply to a sig with one of my own, and it gets rated as -1 Flamebait. Nice. May the Karma wheel of Meta-Moderation roll over and permanently depress your keyboard.

    I've got nothing against Microsoft Users... it's just their Overlord I can't stand.

    = 9J =

  46. Re:Uh by iainl · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Do you say everything's ok and you're just like a normal, honest citizen after you've served your 4 years in jail for auto theft, or do you have a GTA record?"

    Is that like owning a vinyl copy of Cutting Crew's Died In Your Arms Tonight? If so, its a pretty harsh sentence.

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