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Keeping Your Keg Cool Sans Ice

DrLudicrous writes "Case Western Reserve University is reporting that first year physics graduate student Adam Hunnell has come up with the idea for a Keg Wrap, a thermoelectric sheet that will be able to maintain a full keg at 32-35F by running off of wall current or even a car's cigarette lighter. The funding for this project is coming from the National Collegiate Inventors and Innovators Alliance, which has provided Mr. Hunnell with a $20,000 grant. Serious stuff - I'd rather see this than another few million dumped into quantum computing."

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  1. thats my kind of college! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    i wonder how many kegs he bought for that 20g... for testing purposes of course

    1. Re:thats my kind of college! by tha_mink · · Score: 4, Funny

      Can you say focus group? I would love to be a "research assistant" on this one. "Hrm. This beer IS cold, but I could use it a few degrees colder..."

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  2. Now this is important research ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Anything that improves the quality of beer deserves the Nobel prize

    1. Re:Now this is important research ... by pixelpusher220 · · Score: 5, Funny

      actually it also serves a public good...

      You run it off your car battery to keep the beer cold and when you're finished with the beer, your car battery is dead so you can't drink and drive!

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  3. "Revenge of the Nerds 6" by AtariAmarok · · Score: 5, Funny

    This sounds like part of the plot for "Revenge of the Nerds 6"; something about the jocks having a party that blows because the beer is warm, but the nerds invent amazing keg-cooling gadgets and get the cheerleeders to go to the Lambda-Lambda-Lambda nerd frat party.

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  4. What's wrong with this by neosiv · · Score: 3, Funny

    I think it a fine invention. Beer has a greater impact on the world thus far than quantum computing.

    1. Re:What's wrong with this by Mick+Ohrberg · · Score: 4, Funny

      Exactly. Think "splitting of the beer molecule"... Emc...

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  5. Ooooo neato! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Can they make clothing out of this? That'd be nice for the hot regions of the USA this summer.

    And, I'm sure there will be people trying to figure out how to scale this to computers, particularly portable devices.

  6. Physics Nobel Price by Big+Nothing · · Score: 4, Funny

    Give THIS guy the Nobel Price in Physics. Or Medicine. Or Peace - I don't care.

    *cheers*

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  7. How about... by Woogiemonger · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wonder if it's feasible to add solar-powered refrigeration to a cooler? Now THAT'D be a really useful invention. This keg thing is nice too though.

    1. Re:How about... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah, you could get a big, unglazed terra cotta pot, put the keg in, fill it with wet sand, let the sun's heat evaporate the water, and - nah, it'd never work... :P

    2. Re:How about... by usrusr · · Score: 3, Informative

      why develop?

      it is already developed: same site or other site with some breweries who use it (jever seems to do so as well)

      or for the multimedia fanatics, a flash

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  8. He hasn't even designed a prototype yet by freelunch · · Score: 3, Interesting

    He plans to begin design work on a prototype in the next several weeks.

    Great. I hope he lets us know when he has a design for a prototype.. And then maybe when there is actually a prototype vs. a vague bong inspired idea..

    At this rate it seems that it would be easy for someone to get a jump on any opportunity and beat him to the market and patent.

  9. Real Ale by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Speaking as a good Englishman, why not learn
    to drink beer with some taste which doesn't need
    to be frozen ?

    1. Re:Real Ale by nmrs · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Having recently moved to England from America, I can now testify that the average British beer drinker has about the same beer preferences as an American... Out of all the people I know here, I am the only one that drinks ale. Every Englishman I know between the ages of 20 and 40 drinks lager (which needs to be "frozen"). On top of that, England now has Guiness "Extra Cold". What the hell is that all about? So you take a beer with enough flavor to taste fine a bit warm, and then freeze it...

  10. No big deal... by MoeMoe · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wake me up when it can be attached to a molex connector...

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  11. HomeBrewers Device by notaknob · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This kind of device is exactly what many homebrewers would need for fermenting. I'd probably pickup two or three as I don't have the space or money for more refrigerators. nk

    1. Re:HomeBrewers Device by essiescreet · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well, you could do what I do, and ferment on top of the dishwasher... The only reason you need to ferment at these temps is for lagers. Make an ale, and you can ferment at 80 degress (F) if you want. I regularly do.

      What would be more cost effective is to get a chest freezer, there's room for your fermenters, kegs, CO2 tank, and you've always got beer on tap. Then, no more bottling!

    2. Re:HomeBrewers Device by Chewie · · Score: 4, Interesting

      (Disclaimer: I am a casual-at-best homebrewer. I believe the info below to be basically correct, but I am sure true zymurgists could crucify me on details. Please don't. I'm delicate.)

      Well, for the most part you're right. I ferment my ales for about 1 week in my primary fermenter, 1 week in my glass carboy, and 2 weeks in the bottles (for CO2 generation), all at about 60F. However, lagers are kept in cold storage after primary fermentation for weeks or months. During this time (where the beer is kept quite cold), the yeast is mostly inactive, but the flavor mellows and evens out. Eventually, you get that crisp, clean flavor evident in lagers like Heineken, St. Pauli Girl, and other German Lager-style beers (yes, I know Heineken isn't made in Germany).

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  12. Why not have both? by Black+Parrot · · Score: 5, Funny


    > I'd rather see this than another few million dumped into quantum computing.

    The cooler reduces the entropy of the beer, and then you drink it, causing your brain state to collapse on a solution that's guaranteed to seem like a good idea at the time.

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  13. Kid needs to transfer.... by southpolesammy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hmmmm, a keg wrap that runs off of 100-120VAC power == keg parties.

    Can also run off of a car cigarette lighter == tailgaiting extraordinaire.

    This kid is going to the wrong school. He'd be a god down at Ohio State....

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    1. Re:Kid needs to transfer.... by pitdingo · · Score: 5, Funny

      F Ohio State, he should be at Michigan!!!

  14. Everybody wins by erick99 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Case is to be congratulated for providing an academic environment that also conjoins the commercial world where these students will end up when they are finished their studies. This particular student is well on his way to being both a successful engineer and a successful business owner. Everybody wins!

    Happy Trails!

    Erick

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  15. VaporWare at the moment by jonasmit · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hunnell's idea is to design a wrap, made of nylon or a similar material, using thermoelectrics...The main challenge to building a successful wrap, Hunnell says, is selecting the proper thermoelectric devices from the many types manufactured. He plans to begin design work on a prototype in the next several weeks.
    Seems like they would wait until the guy did something before writing about it! All those grad students with real data and publications and they write about an idea that got a kid a grant? Not to mention losing any royalties to somebody with real money stealing his idea (especially if the hardest thing is choosing COTS parts) Oh well...

  16. Re:1 + 1 = ? by anjrober · · Score: 3, Informative

    The article says "2,500 wholesalers in the United States. Ohio, West Virginia and Pennsylvania between them have 3,200 wholesalers and distributors."

    2500 wholesalers in US
    3200 Wholesales and distributors in WV, PA an ohio
    it's the distributors that is the larger number.

  17. What kind of research is going on at Colleges? by jshindl · · Score: 3, Funny

    First, Koolio - the beer delivering robot, and now this!?

  18. Innovation .... by univgeek · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And this, Gentleman, is one of the most famous American Innovations of the early 21st century. Nowhere else in the world could they have come up with such a marvelous invention to keep frat boys drunk, in a car, or in a house.

    (see next story on how outsourcing be a big deal, as it will not affect american innovation)

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  19. I'd buy that for a dollar... by JayAdams · · Score: 4, Funny

    Actually, I would like to pledge $20 dollars to the existing grant to make sure this gets the proper funding! Nothing like a project like this to spur the great minds of our generation to take action.

    I have to think that the $20k will pale in comparison to the Home Shopping Network profits next year.

  20. College Years by caldroun · · Score: 3, Funny

    I dont remember my kegs sitting around long enough to see room temprature, of course, I dont remember.

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  21. Re:Why do Americans care so much about cold beer? by grub · · Score: 3, Informative

    You mean "Guinness". Note the two Ns See their site

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  22. I hate beer snobs by tybalt44 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Dear Dr. Stupid,

    You may notice that most American beer is Pilsener-style lager (pils). Which is intended to be drunk cold. Ask a brewer of Pilsener-style lager in any country what temperature his beer should be drunk at, most will say between 2 and 5 degrees C (36-41 F).

    I myself prefer ales and stouts to lagers, but there can be no doubt that (1) cold lager can be an ideal (and very tasty) beer in a hot environment; (2) people in many countries (including the U.S.) prefer lagers; (3) no amount of ignorant snobbery can make their preferences wrong; and (4) YAASA. STFU.

    Folks, next time some snooty jackass looks down his nose at you because of your beer, remember the Latin phrase de gustibus not est disputandunum, so you can teach him a lesson as your fist squelches into the soft tissues around his nose. And also, like our friend the AC here, he's probably wrong anyway.

    Please remember to FOAD. Thank you for your attention.

    Yours sincerely,

    tybalt44

    1. Re:I hate beer snobs by LedZeplin · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Serving beers at or near freezing and serving beers at lagering tempature is a big difference. If you get a pilsner that it brewed for flavor and not for profit margin, you will find that they should be served at lagering tempatures, around 45F.

      As for the initial comment of 32-35 degrees for the blanket, I'm sure it would have a temperature control to choose your desired tempature. Who will this be marked to? The Frat boys who want to swill lots of cheap beer and tempature is secondary, or the beer snobs who want to keep their kegs at the proper tempature?

      Your Friendly Beer Snob^h^h^h^h Advocate.

  23. Free Flow of Beer Key to Innovation by Lodragandraoidh · · Score: 3, Funny

    Without the free flow of beer there would be no new inventions.

    When this vaporware becomes reality, it will mark the dawn of a new Rennaisance - a bold new world where intergalactic keggers are the rule, rather than the exception...

    Long live the electric keg cooling blanket!

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  24. Its about time! by Gannoc · · Score: 4, Funny

    or even a car's cigarette lighter.

    Thank God. Frankly, I think its pretty dangerous to have to lean over and pull beer out of the back seat ice cooler while driving. Now, we can just plug a cooler into the cigarette lighter and keep our eyes on the road.

    Thank you, technology!

  25. It has so much more application than beer. by adl99 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I cannot believe that the chap submitting this didn't think about the possibilities for this. Refrigeration in the third world is so important - if this thing can run off a cigarette lighter, then it must draw so much less current than a peltier device, making it a very good solar-power candidate. This thing could revolutionise healthcare in third world countries. It could wipe out subsistence farming - food would stay unspoilt for so much longer. I am surprised (well, considering he's a student, not THAT surprised) that it has been marketed solely for beer. Well, some of the best inventions have arisen during wartime, and the war against cold beer has been raging for as long as I can remember, anyway.

  26. Re:portable method for keeping beer cold indefinet by thebra · · Score: 3, Funny

    Nerd? Oh yes because his party will be so lame that no one will show up so he will have a lot of beer left over.

  27. Warm brown beer ... by Dark$ide · · Score: 3, Funny
    It just won't catch on over here. In Great Britain we like our beer warm and dark brown.

    For the folks who have a British car - the suggestion is that it's due to our fridges being made by Lucas Electrics.

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