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Pixar's Next Movie: The Incredibles
An anonymous reader writes: "The trailer for Pixar's next film, The Incredibles, is on the web. It's available from the official Incredibles site, the Apple trailers page, and Pixar's website. Lots of info on the official page as well! Enjoy!"
This really isn't meant as flamebait. Pixar's movies are extremely cool looking but I really wish they'd make some movies that weren't oriented towards children. I recognize that there's a lot of content in them that is geared towards adults. Besides keeping the parents mildly entertained while their kids enjoy the movie I'm it also has to do with the reason pixar's movies do so well. But even so, why no adult content? THere's definitely this pervasive attitude that animation is the domain of children only in America. (I'm probably pegging myself as an anime nerd here. :) )
And btw, by 'geared towards adults' I certainly don't mean sex and explosions, that doesn't hurt though if the plot is interesting and supports it.
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... have to release this and their next film "Cars" with Disney. After that, they no longer have to have their films distributed by Disney.
Also Disney gets the rights to any sequels for these films, if Pixar refuses to make sequels for them. (Like Toy Story 3)
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This picture was in production before the split.
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The previews make the movie out to be rather humourous. Samuel L. Jackon screaming "WHERE is my SUPER-SUIT, woman?!?" It'll make millions off that line alone, nevermind the killer renderings.
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Pixar was never "in" the Disney empire. They merely worked with each other. Basically, their agreement to work with each other is terminated in the sense that they aren't going to make any more movies jointly. As for why, Pixar wanted more money and Disney didn't want to lose profits.
Washington Post story covering this
They plan on not renewing the contract, but they didn't break it. More info here
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What's with the mandatory i-tunes requirement to see the large screen? Very annoying for those of us that don't want yet another multimedia viewer clogging the machine. Isn't Quicktime good enough?
> I thought that Pixar split from the Disney
.. and then Pixar will go with somebody who gives them more than 10% of the takings. Pixar weren't looking to "screw" Disney, just be paid a fair price for what they are now worth in the market.
> Empire? What's up with that?
Disney will still release one or two movies more (The Incredibles plus the next one). Pixar had a 6 film deal with Disney, but Disney contested that "Toy Story II" counted as it was a sequel. (This is one reason that Pixar don't do sequels).
So we have
Toy Story I/II
Bugs Life
Monsters Inc
Finding Nemos
The Incredibles
One more.
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They chose not to renew thier contract, but they are still obligated to produce a few films for Disney under the current contract, this being one of them. Also Disney still has rights on any sequels to the movies made under the original contract, so I wouldn't be surprised to see some some "release to video" craptaculars comming out of disney using the pixar characters.
Don't know if people care since Apple is fast, but here's a torrent: http://www.filerush.com/torrents/the_incredibles-t lr_m480.mov.torrent
Aside from the fact that this looks like it'd be just as funny as Toy Story, Finding Nemo, etc... What are they running for web services - seriously?
The 2 trailers loaded extremely fast (on the main site) and the Flash loaded faster than I could click "Skip Intro." Over all, a very well made site.
Disney without Pixar is going to be like Apple without Steve Jobs... Oh, wait...
Apparently, this movie was released three days ago.
Why are we just hearing about it now?
> so Disney could make their own Toy Story 3, if they chose.
Which they will.
And it will be straight to video.
And it will be crap.
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...about this mediu is that Pixar isn't simply a digital rendering company.
They're a MOVIE company. The reason their stuff is so well loved by the general populace is that they're first and foremost moviemakers. All of the stuff Ive seen from them so far is incredibly well written. That goes for not only their features but their shorts, too. Even the ones with no dialog in them.
The fact that they take these scripts and make them happen in a totally rendered environment is more than a creative choice than anything else. The script HAS to be good, and dead on, and not have a lot of slop, because the rendering proces is so time consuming and expensive (for now.) The medium in a sense culls out the shit material, because no matter how much you polish up a peice of shit, it's still going to be shit.
Films like Toy Story and Monsters Inc. COULD have been made in the traditional way, with actors and such, but by doing the whole thing as animation they get away from moments in the film where the audience would mentally break off with the thought "Holy Fuck, that's a coolass special effect."
IMHO, The fact that these are marketed and skewed towards a younger audience is mainly because, as a culture, the US isn't ready to accept animated ANYTHING as a serious medium for carying adult themes. If Pixar was a Japanese company, half the stuff they made probably wouldnt be viewable by children. Take Cowboy Bebop as an example. Anime, purely cartoon, but NOT for kids. I wont even go into things like Ghost in the Shell. This cultural disconnect in the States is why you see things like a row full of nine year olds sitting in a theater watching Terrance and Phillip sing songs about how the other likes to anally rape his uncle.
s'wut i sed.
I don't really want to see a movie about a guy who used to be great but got fat and old...
I looked at the trailer than read through the comments before I got here, and was surprised to see a +5 saying Pixar only writes for children. Did he even watch the trailer?
This movie is for the Adult Swim crowd. It's got nothing "adult" in it (sex, violence -- well, there's explosions), but not every show on Adult Swim does either. It's the writing. Are children going to laugh at a character yelling "Where is my super suit, woman?!?" Probably not. But I laughed out loud more than a few times watching it.
Disney braves a thin line between children and adult entertainment (except for their refusal to distribute Michael Moore's latest movie, which is just dumb). Some stuff bridges the line rather admirably (like the Muppets, which they more or less acquired). Ditto on ABC after hours. A Bug's Life, though? Very little for adults to laugh at. Children will laugh at The Incredibles, but I have a feeling adults will get the most out of it.
The superhero interview 'bit' in the trailer looked like it was lifted straight from the The Tick animated series. *tap, tap, tap--is this thing on?* Now Pixar doing a Tick movie, THAT would be Great!
Apple finally figured out "full screen" wasn't enough to get people to buy Quicktime Pro. However, it will probably be more successful at getting users to install iTunes, update to the latest version, or open it if they've never opened it before.
It is pretty stupid, but in a twisted way makes sense from a marketing standpoint.
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I think you hit the nail on the head - but not how you intended. I love Pixar's movies, but they are clearly written for kids. Like you said, they WRITE IN CONTENT FOR ADULTS. I agree with the parent poster, that I would like to see a movie from Pixar where the adult content wasn't an afterthought. Think "Spirited Away". It is appropriate for adults and kids, but doesn't feel like a kids movie with a few jokes thrown in for the parents. Finding Nemo was good, but it was still a kids movie.
Sure, they are a kickass animation studio, but let's not forget that they make movies to MAKE MONEY. Where is the money? Product tie-ins. Granted, if the movie tanks their products sit on the shelves, so they do have to make a decent movie first. This has been the MO for kids moviemakers for quite a while now. It has been very obvious for a long time and is starting to become pathetic (Cat in the Hat anyone?). But parents lap it up. There is already Shrek 2 merchandise on the market.
Hey, that is the movie business, not much room for integrity.
My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.
But for the Lion King 1-1/2 (which I haven't seen, so I won't comment), there's an Aladdin II... and an Alladin III.
My pet peeve with Disney is that they take stuff in the Public Domain (Cinderella etc) then start sending legal threats to anybody who does the same, claiming that they are cashing on the Disney investment. Of course, many claims are baseless, but who can defend themselves against the legal might of Disney?
The last straw was when they pulled out of the production of the recent "Peter Pan" movie, because they didn't want to pay royalties to the orphanage that owns the rights (they received them in the will of the Author).
Disney claims because they already paid once for their animated production of Peter Pan, they shouldn't have to pay again.
Hmm.. Billion dollar multinational refusing to give a tiny percentage of one fucking movie to a group of kids without parents. Walt would be spinning in his grave if he wasn't frozen into it.
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I'm going to wait until the trailer is in a video format that doesn't require me to run bloated software, before I see it.
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I don't know about that--you can't tell me Jobs hasn't gotten a fair amount of pleasure over having Michael Eisner over a barrel. I mean honesty, who on this planet wouldn't enjoy the chance to really put the screws to that guy. Who knows what motivates Steve Jobs these days, but he's clearly in an extremely powerful position right now--with a company full of insanely talented people who are creating movies millions of people just can't seem to find their wallet quick enough to see.
It will be very interesting to see what happens over the next couple of years.
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That's not strictly true. Disney have a reputation of legally threatening people over this sort of thing but it has nothing to do with protecting its investment. So long as you avoid using Disney inventions that were used in conjunction with the public domain story then Disney can't do a thing.
For example, it's perfectly legitimate for someone to stage a play based on Snow White but Disney would come down hard if you used the names and/or appearance of the Seven Dwarves as seen in the movie (the seven dwarves appear in the original public domain Snow White but the characters of Grumpy, Sleepy, et al, are Disney inventions and not in the public domain).
Is this right? Well, it's a strict and traditional application of copyright so it's difficult to complain about, unless you want to argue against copyright in general. What isn't right, and this relates to your original pet-peeve, is the retroactive extension of copyright so that the Disney inventions never fall into the public domain.
Pixar was never a part of Disney -- Disney just had an agreement to distribute the pictures and take half the profits.
From their recent annual report:
Can you spot Cliff in every feature-length Pixar movie?
Well you see, Norm, it's like this...A herd of buffalo can only move as fast as the slowest buffalo. And when the herd is hunted, it is the slowest and weakest ones at the back that are killed first. This natural selection is good for the herd as a whole, because the general speed and health of the whole group keeps improving by the regular killing of the weakest members. In much the same way, the human brain can only operate as fast as the slowest brain cells. Now, as we know, excessive intake of alcohol kills brain cells. But naturally, it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first. In this way, regular consumption of beer eliminates the weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more efficient machine. And that, Norm, is why you always feel smarter after a few beers.
Disclaimer:
A lot of the CGI work was half done (and parts of the movie were storyboards), so I haven't seen the whole finished thing. So I am not sure how those parts finished up.
All of that said...
The pacing even of the half done version was excellent. The plot held together, the characters were thought out and had depth, they developed throughout the film. Pixar knows how to make movies; it's quite something to be watching a scene that's half storyboards still and still feel it's gripping.
This movie is aimed at both adults and kids. There are child characters, who help save the day, but the adults character development is the main theme of the film in my opinion.
I liked. I expect the finished product is going to entirely live up to the promise of the half done version I saw.
Finding Nemo was the most adult movie Pixar has made. The mother dies in a scary scene, and all the babies are eaten but one. I remember people gossiping about it online, wondering why they would have such a scary scene in a "kid's movie."
The whole film is about parenthood. You seriously didn't get that? To a kid, it's a fun flick about colorful fish, but to an adult, it touches on adult emotions as well. I thought Finding Nemo was the most strangely tragic of all their films--the guy loses his wife, all his other kids, and has to raise one all by himsef, and he's freaked out about anything happening to him.
Toy Story 2 touched on growing older and losing childhood. I mean, come on. Pixar's movies aren't really "geared" toward anybody. They just are what they are. An adult film doesn't mean it has guns, blood, or serious drama. It can just as well be a comedy with a bunch of CG animated fish and still be adult-enjoyable as ever. People who think otherwise are just embarrassed that they watch movies with CG animated fish and want to be cool.