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Thief 3 Preview Shows Excruciating Detail, Insight
Thanks to EvilAvatar for pointing to an extremely in-depth preview of Ion Storm's PC/Xbox title Thief 3:Deadly Shadows, courtesy of fansite Thief: The Circle. The piece deals with some of the more controversial changes ("Loot glint is there whether you like it or not. It sort of clashed with the look/atmosphere to see this bright twinkling light across the room, but it aids in what has been one of the most frustrating elements in the earlier games: the loot hunt"), whether this is anything like Deus Ex 2 ("No. This game is actually finished at the time of its release") before concluding by noting: "Loot glint and arrow streaks mean exactly zip when you're actually... playing the game... and for once in the history of the series, the game actually looks GOOD." Update: 05/17 16:39 GMT by S : An anonymous reader also points to a detailed retrospective of the Thief series on the delightfully named FourFatChicks.com.
I'm glad a theif game is finaly getting some recognision, I loved the games but they never made it anywhere...
I remember when I first played a Thief 1 demo that came on a CD that came with some magazine. A friend and I decided to try out the game, and we were simply blown away by the (at the time) amazingly realistic AI.
When we shot a guard a couple of times, he actually realized he was losing and decided to run away, unlike every other grunt I've seen in every other FPS who just kept running at you. To make things worst, as he was running, he shouted "Help! Help! Thief." We knew we were screwed unless we could silence him, so we took out our sword and chased after him.
He ran into a door, and closed it behind him. This, in itself, was another impressive detail, but we our jaws dropped when we tried to open the door and discovered he locked it!
We stood around the door, not sure what to do when all of a sudden it flung open and five guards came running out and pummeled us to death.
This was the first time I had experienced actually intelligent behaviour from a computer controlled character.
They just didn't look great. However, if the Theif series were simply looking good they would be Quake III. The gameplay is stellar and the fact you don't just hack & slash your way through a level makes it one of the best series of games I've ever purchased. Hell I'll probably buy this for the PC and XBox just to support the franchise (I'll give one to my brother).
When the original Thief came out (back in 98/99?), I spent a good 6 hours or so at it one afternoon, only to finish when I realized I was starving and everyone had left our dorm for dinner. I had just quit the game and was sitting in the dark, gathering my appetite to head for the cafeteria, when another student walked by in the hallway, scuffing their feet and whistling.
I froze. Then I realized I couldn't find my blackjack. I was, in fact, sitting in my dorm room, and no longer playing Thief. That was a very weird realization, and somewhat of a dissappointment, because that noisy student sure had it coming.
I can't wait for Thief 3.
I find games in the "stealth" genre excruciatingly boring. It's not because I don't like the idea of hiding or sneaking up on people and killing them and stealing there stuff. It's because the games are always so slow. What do you guys do in all that time it takes you to creep frome one shadow to another? Ponder the mysteries of the universe? Play another game at the same time?
The article mentioner neither how modable the game is nor if there's multiplayer.
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None of the games have had multiplayer yet, even though Thief 2 was quite close. There might be some hacks that allow for it, I've lost the install CD anyway so I do not care.
Thief 2 was actually quite moddable, or maybe not. I didn't look too much into the editor, the map editor used the scary CSG approach where you carve stuff out of the void.
Does anyone have any information on these subjects? Not that it'll stop me from buying the game, I'm just interested
Stealth games are slow because the deliberate pacing leads to very high tension situations. Tension is important, because it gives the player a vested interest in the outcome of their planning, and the higher the tension, the more important the outcome of their actions. This makes the player's observation and planning at least as important as their active execution. The danger of discovery and combat in Thief makes it's stealth very high stakes.
If you want more action and less planning, I'd recommend the Tenchu: Stealth Assassin series - where only line of sight contributes to stealth. Tenchu characters are practically Batman (auto-coiling grapple gun included) with Ninja gear. Played very well, a Tenchu game can be practically nonstop running 1-hit stealth kills, but it takes a lot of practice.
Hitman 2 & 3 are also great, if you like elaborately planned right-under-their-noses disguise, environment, and gadget oriented stealth killing. They also gives you the option to go full-guns-blazing if you are discovered.
Stealth games aren't for everyone, so if you just want action, play an action game already.
Free Unreal Tournament Mod, it's pretty slick!
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The bottom of the page says the game is GPU intensive. I wonder whether it is worth buying a Geforce FX 5600 for a 1GHz AMD processor with 256MB of ram.