Anti-Spammers Infiltrate Private Online Spam Clubs

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Anti-Spammers Infiltrate Private Online Spam Clubs

Posted by simoniker on Monday May 17, 2004 @08:46AM from the spy-in-the-house-of-spam dept.

Angry_Admin writes " Spammers are now trying to find out which antispammers have infiltrated their ranks and are sharing "sensitive" info with fellow antispammers. According to the story at The Register: 'Online spammer forums like the Pro Bulk Club the Bulk Club and bulkmails.org have been gatecrashed by activists from organisations like Spamhaus. Steve Linford of Spamhaus said spammers know this already but they don't know who amongst their number is working for the other side. In theory the members-only forums of these sites is accessible only by invitation and only to individuals who have a proven track record in spamming. Apart from playing with the paranoia of spammers, the undercover investigation cast light on the latest spammer techniques.' Hopefully the spammers aren't that bright and the antispammers stick around long enough to bring them down."

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Tsk tsk... by grub · 2004-05-17 08:47 · Score: 5, Funny

Someone forgot the first rule of Spam Club...

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1. Re:Tsk tsk... by macshune · 2004-05-17 09:05 · Score: 4, Funny
  
  >Someone forgot the first rule of Spam Club...
  
  If it's your first night, you have to spam?
For Spammers By Spammers by SirChris · 2004-05-17 08:48 · Score: 4, Funny

So there are forums out there for spammers by spammers? Do these forums get spammed also? I, personally, would love to leave a few choice words on those forums.
1. Re:For Spammers By Spammers by Allen+Zadr · 2004-05-17 09:00 · Score: 5, Funny
  
  What gets to me about spammers... They obviously feel they are doing the world a favor by offering sexual deficiency drugs, pain-killers of questionable legality and mortgages for those with bad credit.
  I always picture spammers as bereft of libedo and credit, with drug abuse problems. Really, wouldn't that explain a lot?
  
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Just a list of names is all we need... by mobiux · 2004-05-17 08:49 · Score: 5, Funny

If someone could get that, we could, at least temporarily, reduce this problem.

I've got a baseball bat and loads of free time.
1. Re:Just a list of names is all we need... by Sponge+Bath · 2004-05-17 10:09 · Score: 5, Funny
  
  I've got a baseball bat and loads of free time.
  Make sure you leave the bat at the scene so it looks like a suicide.
Re:James Bond of the Spam world? by SnowDeath · 2004-05-17 08:49 · Score: 4, Funny

Post your email address and I'll tell you ;)
Re:James Bond of the Spam world? by Anonymous Coward · 2004-05-17 08:49 · Score: 5, Funny

> I wonder how they got in if it's invitation only.

I imagine they received many invitations, and simply didn't opt-out by clicking on the handy links at the bottom.
Re:James Bond of the Spam world? by Kenja · 2004-05-17 08:50 · Score: 5, Funny

"Well 3 cheers to these fellows! I wonder how they got in if it's invitation only."
The same way I keep getting added to all these "opt-in" spam lists.

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Re:Not just a tree house club by Kenja · 2004-05-17 08:53 · Score: 4, Funny

Companies need some way to sell their sugar pills, I mean H3r84L V149r4!!!!!!

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Knowing your enemy... by StressGuy · 2004-05-17 08:55 · Score: 4, Funny

Let's see, what were the club names?

Pro Bulk Club

The Bulk Club

bulkmails.org

Egads, with such a raw display of creative thinking, we don't stand a chance. [grin]

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Did I leave out "The Incredible Bulk"? by StressGuy · 2004-05-17 08:58 · Score: 5, Funny

sorry, I'll get back to work now....

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Spam club invitations are available here... by joelparker · 2004-05-17 09:00 · Score: 4, Funny

Dear Sir/Madam, I approach you with this offer due to the recent death of [county] Minister of Justice [name] because there is a secret bank deposit box, containing the sum of two (2) invitations to spam club. Half of these can be yours, generously. Email for details. P.S. the box also has six p3n!s enl.ar.ge.rs, five bottles of the blu* pi11 C:@l:s, and the absolute L0WEST *R*A*T*E*S for yr. m-ort-ga-ge & /\UTO W@rrn+iez.
Re:James Bond of the Spam world? by grub · 2004-05-17 09:01 · Score: 5, Funny

I wonder how they got in if it's invitation only.

Dress in dark camoflage.
Shoot grappling hook to rail around roof.
Get to rooftop, shoot guard on balcony with silenced .22
Remove camoflage.
Use suction cup on skylight, cut out pane of glass and discard.
Secure rope and drop into upper floor office.
Climb down rope.
Use chloroform-soaked rag on guard outside office door.'
Pull out CDR with "email addresses" written in Sharpie Marker on it.
Walk down to party, take glass of champagne from waiter.
Send signal to antispammers telling them you're in.

Duh, how else do you think they did it?

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Good, this is progress. by Vthornheart · 2004-05-17 09:07 · Score: 4, Funny

Now, just give me a shotgun, a case of ammo, and a list of related addresses. It's about time we sent unsolicited E-Mailers some unsolicited lead pellets.

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Strange thing by bizitch · 2004-05-17 09:14 · Score: 4, Funny

I cant seem to get to that website "bulkmails.org"

I keep hitting my refresh button over and over and over and over and over again - but it doesn't come up ....

hmmmmmm....

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Re:Don't doubt the Spammers IQ by Glamdrlng · 2004-05-17 09:15 · Score: 4, Funny

Which makes me wonder, if it were a wild west situation where anything goes, and anti-spammers were allows to break the law in the same manner, would these spammers still be in business, or would there basically be a bounty on the heads of spammers.
The first thought that comes to mind is, take the source code for phatbot (it is GPL'd after all), strip out the bits about exploiting microsoft vulnerabilities, but leave in the code that exploits machines listening on the backdoors left by bagel, netsky, and mydoom, and give it a payload that shuts the machine down.

No, it's not very nice, and yes, it would piss people off. But this is the anything goes solution.

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Re:Now that you mention it ... by bladernr · 2004-05-17 09:36 · Score: 5, Funny

but after a while it became pretty clear that the deal is this: he's going to be running a site selling Brazilian sex tours
Did you get the URL for that? For research I mean, so I can block mail... or something... whatever... WHAT'S THE URL?!
(note to self... don't forget to click AC box).. DAMN

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Re:James Bond of the Spam world? by pyros · 2004-05-17 09:45 · Score: 4, Funny

Well 3 cheers to these fellows! I wonder how they got in if it's invitation only.
Well, Sir Gallahad, Sir Lancelot, and I hid inside a giant wooden Hormel crate in front of the castle ....
So Where Are the Cops? by StormyMonday · 2004-05-17 10:05 · Score: 4, Funny

Let's see. Class III narcotics? Check. Stock market pump 'n dump? Check. Nigerian scams? Check. Hijacked machines? Check.

All of these are seriously illegal.

So where are the cops?

It'd be amusing (yes, I have a sick sense of humor) to find out that everybody in the chat room was a cop, just waiting for a real spammer to log in ...

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