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How To Play Your iTunes Music On Other Systems
ptorrone writes "Engadget has a step-by-step for the non-uber geek on how to play your purchased music from iTunes on other systems. To be clear, this isn't a way to take music you bought and give it to someone else, this is so you can listen to your own purchased music on other systems or devices. In fact, your personal info is still in the file."
I've purchased a bunch of em.
My previous solution was to burn then to CD, then rip them using something else, like Grip under linux.
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hymn (the tool talked about in this walk through) is PlayFair. It's been renamed and a new author is working on it. Also, the latest release keeps your Apple ID in the file so if you have it on a P2P network your asking for trouble.
From the article:
Now the application is called "hymn", or "hear your music anywhere"...
I would have called it "hyman" because it makes more sense. Then again, if the program crashed on you, I guess you'd have a busted hyman, so I see where they're coming from on that.
I also reply below your current threshold.
This is a great way to do this legally... but... there is always someone that will circumvent the issue and find a loop hole to share music within iTunes.
I really don't see illegal mp3/acc file sharing to be stopped. Ever.
Yes! I listen to NYC Speedcore and do math at 3AM. I suggest you try it too.
What is the need to buy music when we can all sing to ourselves and save money instead?
la de la de la..
*cat suffers heart attack*
oh...thats why we buy.
"hymm decodes the songs you have purchased using the key from your iPod and/or your operating system and make a new file which is not protected, it keeps the cover art and song data as part of the file. Since this is using your key, you can only do this for your songs, which I personally think is fair- they're the songs you bought, you should be able to put them on your other computers or devices."
I don't know, even if that doesn't technically violate fair use, it comes really close. He [the author] is right though: they're the songs you bought, you should be able to put them on your other computers.
13 steps to play your songs?
I prefer this 3 step procedure instead:
1. Install VLC.
2. Open your M4P file in VLC.
3. Click play.
That's it!
I just find it interesting that the DRM was most easily compromised by allowing iTunes for Windows! Is this just because of the sheer user base, meaning things get hacked together faster, or is it more profound, i.e., Windows is more easily hacked. Food for thought :)
PS - I've just ordered by G4 Powerbook laptop (drool, drool), doing the switch from Windows. Faintly nervous, but all my friends (both of them...) are getting the Powerbooks and loving them!
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Step 1: Use iTunes to burn a CD with whatever songs you bought and want to burn.
Step 2: Use winamp to rip the CD to your computer.
Step 3: Enjoy restriction-less CDs and MP3s.
Then again, I stopped using iTunes now too..
All your base are belong to Google.
Breaking a contract is not necissarily illegal (lets not even debate whether an EULA actually counts as a contract)
The S in TOS stands for service. The contract stiplulates the penalty for breaking the contract: refusal of service. Basically they say we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone who breaks our terms. The only thing Apple could do to you for breaking this "contract" is ban you. (of course the DMCA could possibly come into play somehow, but it is relatively untested)
I just plug the headphone out into the line in of my computer and encode the songs to MP3 myself while I'm asleep. As long as you can get an audio output from a device, music DRM will never work. So what if it takes as long to record as my tape deck used to. I'm asleep, so I don't know the difference. Encoding music is easy, filling your iPOD full of illegal substances and getting it across the border is hard. Those dogs can smell anything. That's why you have to kick them in the throat. I'm not saying I'd do anything illegal... but I'd kill somebody, in front of their own mama to listen to itunes in my car and if anybody tried to tell on me, I'd gouge their eyes out.
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Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
After all, we all know that about 1% of people (maybe slightly higher on the mac side) are smart enough with even less people caring enough to want to use something like this, especially since it is anti-piracy minded. Apple is only appearing to be serious about this to keep the record companies in bed with them.
If apple's contract told you to rob a bank, would you?
Some companies (especially ones with '$' in their name) are infamous for TOSs that severely overstep sane boundaries which may become legal boundaries (by precedent) if this winds up in court.
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i really like itunes. the layout is great, and the integration of itunes music store is fantastic because of the ease of use, speed of download, etc. it is slightly annoying that the songs are encrypted. if my other mp3 player could read these files, i wouldn't have any complaints. perhaps the solution is to send e-mail/letters to your favorite mp3 player company and request they release firmware upgrades for your players so that the itunes format is supported.
Where does the above say anything about copyright law? Your response to me would have been an appropriate reply, but fair use, as I said, doesn't belong in the discussion, at least until you've dispensed with the TOS discussion. (And quoting the law would probably still be overkill at that point.)
It seems like only a small step to remove the Apple ID from the decrypted file, hmm? I'm not advocating piracy but.. someone has to say this, 'cos it's what's going through plenty of people's minds.
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Is it no less a waste of time to burn iTunes songs to CDs and rip them? If anything, decoding this way is more in the spirit of Fairplay than burn and rip, as it maintains the ownership info.
"Because Science" is one step from "Because old book". Try "Because of my experiment testing my falsifiable assertion".
Is it just me, or can't you just burn the cd, then rip it into mp3? Is this against the iTunes EULA? Or do people just not want to do this because they feel they are going to lose some minor amount of sound quality doing this?
Merely breaking a contract is not "illegal" if by "illegal" you mean "criminal" (as opposed to incurring only civil liability). However, violation of the DMCA may (or may not) be "illegal" -- i.e., criminal. The DMCA, and particularly 17 U.S.C. sec. 1201(b) provides in pertinent part:
17 U.S.C. sec. 1201(b) (emphasis added)
It appears the software in question violates section 1201(b). I suspect the DMCA takedown notice is on the way.
However, it does not appear there is any criminal (as opposed to civil) liability. 17 U.S.C. sec. 1204(a) provides in relevant part:
17 U.S.C. sec. 1204(a) (emphasis added). Because the author of the software at issue doe not appear to be acting "for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial gain," it looks like there is no criminal liability.
On the other hand, the potential civil liability is substantial. 17 U.S.C. sec. 1203(c) provides in relevant part:
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It's a "howto". It explains that you 1) install the app 2) drag and drop protected iTunes files into it. It's newsworthy, in spite of this being the third or fourth time this app has been mentioned, because now it's got a new name (hymn). If you recall the earth-shaking story a few weeks ago that Darth Vader was going to have a new costume in the next SW pre/se/quel, though we didn't actually have an image or description, you know how low the bar is.
Apple don't support KDE except to release changes to KHTML back to the community as required by the GPL.
There is presumably no good business case for building an iTunes for Linux.
They are a company, not a charity.
For instance, I know someone who rented an apartment which has no window in the bedroom for escape from fire. But it is in a very nice place at below average rent, so he puts up with it. Legally, that apartment should not have been rented at all.
I rented an apartment whose lease had an illegal clause concerning a cleaning deposit. I ignored it and signed it anyway, and when time came to leave, and they tried to enforce it, I took them to small claims court and scared them so much I got an additional several hundred dollars out of them to dismiss it in such a manner that they were not on record of having even come to court.
Illegal contarcts can not be enforced. Whether or not the iTunes contract is illegal or has illegal clauses is another matter.
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If you hate the command line, like I do, you can download a GUI wrapper for the Windows version of HYMN at http://stilleye.com/hymn.net/
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Who said anything about making it illegal? If I buy a hard-to-find song on my wife's iMac, and I want to hear it on my Linux box, I'll happily do what it takes to make that happen. I keep hearing the tired suggestion to "just burn it to a CD, then rip it into an MP3. Get this: I can get music for free from the radio. I pay for it so that I can get good sound quality. Transcoding from one lossy algorithm to another does not fall within my definition of acceptable quality.
Some people will use these tools to share music without authorization. Some of us will use them to listen to the music that we paid for when and where we want to listen to it.
I'm not out to rip anybody off. I just want to hear some tunes. Understand?
Dewey, what part of this looks like authorities should be involved?